Airsoft Gas Blowback Winterization Guide

[@nickgikasvo]

It was a pleasure recording for you guys!

[@OnTheGoKRO]

Damn he didn’t give you a shout out?…. Lame

[@nickgikasvo]

@@OnTheGoKRO Nah, I told them no need. The XE guys are very good friends of mine. Plus I'm in the description!

[@UntangleWORKS]

I wanted to thank you for the technical videos you made about GBB/GBBR airsoft replicas. it really helped me out in the development of the FGC-6 BL, H a 3d printable replica that can be build with a view store bought airsoft parts. As a paintballer it really helped to get a good understanding how the internals worked and how to fine tune the parts for the fgc6 project

[@bangerairsoft4086]

As someone living in the northeast US this is awesome information. Awesome job making some truly helpful content!

[@jamescampbell8932]

I've never been one for GBBRs, mainly because in Ireland we play at under 10°C all year round due to the climate. I've always found them very fun to shoot tho and this video has definitely given some stuff to think about if I ever decide to go the GBBR route, thanks dude 🤘

[@boony853]

Try co2 as the propellant for ur gas guns! they work litterally in all temperatures, and are much more efficient

[@skuzz8182]

​@@boony853 saddly co2 guns shoot mostly too hard for ireland, we have a 1 joule limit

[@lukewoodside9420]

@@skuzz8182just chrono with the gas and fire co2 mags in after you chrono

[@afaxmachine5045]

@@lukewoodside9420 sounds like a good way to get banned from every single field near you.

[@lukewoodside9420]

@@afaxmachine5045 depends how hot the gun is, up to 1.2 or 1.3 joules nobody is really going to care. Only reason they chrono for a joule is anything over a joule in ireland is legally a firearm (which is dumb) Most co2 mags will shoot about 1.2 joules, vs their green gas counterpart at about 0.9 joules.

[@GlockandBallTorture]

I'm a simple man. I see a new EE upload, I like it. Looking forward to more content from you!

[@mlee6050]

This is why I love my co2 gun as temperature of magazine doesn't matter, the co2 gets refilled by can into the gun then you slot magazine in

[@banjobill8420]

I fortunately don't have to worry about this, living in Florida, but a fantastic guide as usual with some great tips that can one apply in general use.

[@SmithM1911]

Great video, really in depth. Need more GBBR content out there. I am running a MWS MK18 this winter. Working fine.

[@sogerc1]

HRC sent me here, I didn't even realize I already watched and appreciated some of your videos, time to sub!

[@masscrook]

good to see david attenborough is in to airsoft!!

[@Scibble_FPV]

This was very helpfull for me since I am pretty new with GBBRs. I have yet to use my Daniel Defense MK18 GBBR in the winter time, but thanks to you my gun is not only more gas efficient but it chronos low enough (with the weaker hammer spring) to take to all of my local indoor areanas. P.S. I think that it is very funny at 6:16 when you talked about how HPA is better in cold, because it sounded like something that I would fail on my science test.

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

Glad to hear you found the guide useful! Just to be clear, though, a weaker hammer spring should not have any effect on your FPS- your rocket valve in the nozzle is what dictates power, not the hammer. If the power has gone down, check to make sure you haven't accidentally introduced any leaks in or around the barrel. Otherwise, if you've installed a shorter inner barrel or swapped the rocket valve, that would explain it.

[@vanced3851]

Your channel is a gold mine, I can't wait to see you grow in subscribers. You give strong rs gun channel vibes and I love it! Also very educational and well produced, keep up the great work!

[@KillerKhemist]

Wow this was a super useful video! I have just been keeping my mags wrapped in an electrical heater pad between round, which has been working great in 40F weather

[@earthybestbosses5999]

I don't even got a gas blow back gun and this was interesting af gonna save this for when I do get one.

[@JexalGreka4erezReku]

Good day, excellent advices and problem solving. But... Wanted to add, that these will work in low and moderate humidity climate zones. I live in a climate zone, where it can be both cold and very humid during autumn/ winter season, and i can tell you, that even my marui rifles/pistols struggle at 10 - 5 degrees celcius. Not even talking about freezing or bellow freezing temperatures. You lose pressure extremely quickly in cold humid environments... Awesome stuff, keep up the great work!

[@mccleetoris7296]

I live in Denmark where its usually just cold/winter so I'm 100% gonna use these tips

[@noexfil4u643]

My beloved

[@TOTALRECOILAIRSOFT]

Another amazing video! These guides you’re making are incredible man. Can’t wait for the next one! 👏👏 I was kind of surprised you didn’t mention a tighter inner barrel and an NPAS though. A tighter inner barrel means that you need less gas to get to an appropriate pressure right? I’ve had moments where my gun barely cycled but the BB flew straight a true after installing a 6.01 inner barrel. But if you do that and then add the higher pressure gases, you’ll defs be shooting too hot (in most cases).So the NPAS is kinda essential. Otherwise it’s kinda hard to “tune” the replica for winter right? I run tight bores in all my GBBR’s except for the AUG and I feel that it improves the efficency quite a bit. Am I just imagining this? 😅 I’ve also done the other modifications though except for the trigger. Thanks again! 👊

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

A tighter inner barrel is a solid way to boost your muzzle velocity a bit, though with 6.01 you do need to be more careful about keeping it clean. But in our testing, the difference in efficiency between tuning an NPAS to 1J or 2J is negligible. Basically, the amount of energy being imparted to the BB is irrelevant compared to the amount of energy needed to cycle. However, there are two exceptions we've run into. The first is that if the rocket valve spring is so strong (or NPAS geometry so unfavorable) that it closes late or never actually closes, it will release excess gas and may keep emitting gas even while the carrier cycles, which really kills gas efficiency and makes the blowback feel soft. The other is if you're using an adjustment system like a grub screw in the nozzle, FG-Airsoft LFS disc, or other FPS-reduction method that restricts the nozzle instead of the rocket valve, then the backpressure these create can similarly delay the rocket valve closing and negatively affect efficiency. In that case, though, the efficiency gets better the less you restrict it, which is the opposite of what you're describing. All that said, different systems and different combinations of parts can have unpredictable effects, so if you're seeing the best consistency with a tightbore then keep doing what you're doing.

[@TOTALRECOILAIRSOFT]

@@ExplosiveEnterprises Very interesting! Lots of stuff I hadn’t thought of. Thanks for the reply! 👊

[@MargiAirsoft]

@@ExplosiveEnterprises Are you talking about the RA-Tech NPAS ? How about the homemade NPAS mod ? I mean a grub screw on the back of the rocket valve and screwing it so the valve gets closer to the front of the nozzle, allows less gas inside it and does away with restricting the nozzle, which would cause a weaker blowback effect ?

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

@@MargiAirsoft Homemade NPAS mod is fine. Adjusting where the rocket valve sits (with a grub screw), or adjusting its inner diameter, effectively adjusts FPS without having negative effects on efficiency or cycling. It's when you adjust FPS by obstructing the nozzle that you can run into trouble.

[@MargiAirsoft]

@@ExplosiveEnterprises Thanks for the confirmation !

[@philiptrommelen6980]

Great video. 2 stage valves are worth mentioning. It balances the colder/warmer mag/bottle combo :)

[@Buditokid]

its a nice guide,hope in near future will be another gas option,you know a gas that not become liquid once the temperature drop.

[@TomiHarley]

Great Video and the vipertech is marvelous.

[@TheWolvesCurse]

well, time to get a Marui AKM for the winter then.

[@ivoirtex_7618]

Dude your channel is gold!! I just ordered my first gbbr and you‘ve got me covered in everything I need to know. The quality and information of your videos is insane. Thanks man!!! I will get my VFC HK416A5 in a few days. I would love to see a video about disassembling the fire control group. For now I‘ll just stick to cleaning and regreasing the basic parts as you showed but I definitely plan to clean that entire thing once I know how ^^. Oh and last question I ordered green and red gas from nuprol which unfortunately does have silicone oil in it. I found your channel too late to know that this is actually a bad thing because it gets into parts you don‘t want to. Would you advise me to go and buy propane instead of the nuprol gas so silicone oil doesnt even get into the „bad“ parts of the new gun or is it fine if I empty the two bottles, then clean it and only use propane in the future so the money for those bottles wouldn’t be wasted. Cheers!

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

Using green gas isn't going to hurt anything- you just might need to clean it more often to prevent oil accumulating in your hop. So, you might as well use what you have, then switch to oil free gas.

[@calebsalzmann3248]

I'm so glad I live in South Africa. (where I live it never snows or gets below 0° C)

[@scandimanairsoft]

Now this is value right here! Well done sir!

[@Deus1236]

Another quality video! Great work :)

[@bpartin82]

Look forward to the fps comparison video. Always curious as to how the cool-down actually affects effective range, and never had the real estate to test myself :)

[@Liedton]

Really helpful video, thanks alot! Greetings from Germany

[@ehouse2326]

Fantastic guide!

[@V2xC1uu]

My simple brain will stick to AEG but video was still very interesting to watch

[@mamons_2339]

i learned so much from this video.

[@vintageguitarz1]

You have one THE BEST Airsoft How To Channels!

[@brianmanderson]

Looking to get a GBBR here soon and yeah I was thinking for the cold your best option is run a modded drum mag with HPA, gotta do what you gotta do.

[@konstancemakjaveli]

If you are cold, your mag is cold. Put it on your belly to warm it up.

[@codycai2983]

For ar15 gbb buffer weight can be also adjusted for different temperature, combination with recoil spring, but just need to pay attention to bolt bounds when reducing buffer weight too much. I find real steel buffer is quite good in gbb,

[@darkshock42mlg05]

I actually met someone at my local field who was running a gbbr and he told me he hat to use a weaker buffer spring just to get it to run.

[@gameofdeath69]

Excellent work!

[@SaRa-go6iu]

GET THE GBBR’s OUT BOYS!

[@dennismetzger9287]

Two final practical things you can do after using handwarmers for your mags lol

[@MrJose786]

Your vids are of the most helpful and informative ! Thanks for your hard work, I wanted to ask if there is a particular brand of propleyne you use and do you notice differences between different brands? Cheers

[@justmarcoriginal]

I tried firing into fire with my green gas, since I tought, well propane burns right? Yeah it had a cool muzzle flash and I unlocked the flame skin on my gun for a quick second😂

[@grannynigel]

Fantastic video.

[@ashadowinsociety]

"" Laughs in GHK G5 ** But seriously - thank you for showing some love to GBBR users! I've more or less steered towards GBBs simply because I prefer the realism and the discipline it instils from their usage to maintenance when compared to the relative ease of an M4 AEG using a 400rnd hi-cap!! (I detest hi caps btw) I've been using my G5 with an adjustable nozzle and only black gas to keep up a maximum output with only needing to refine the FPS where applicable however, winters in the UK are generally becoming milder now and it only ever gets bitterly cold when it wants to have a strop! Of course, she slows down a bit but has never outright vented on me and has always pushed out the round. Otherwise, I totally appreciate the points raised here and its a good mix of different tips without any pretentiousness - have fun pew-pewing!

[@ninjaarcades7356]

Great video will have to do pcp on m16 a2

[@BeyondtheBox1]

Me watching without an Airsoft gun

[@Terminatorbart]

Good info!

[@referenceplz5547]

Thank you! Do you have a TM AKM video planned, thanks!

[@MickChallenger-q9l]

Try to spend 12 to 24 hours in the woods at -0°c with a gbbr. It's hard with an AEG (even if you sleep with your gun against you), impossible with a GBBR.

[@aandersson650]

Do you think it'll work in -15C? Those temperatures are common here where I live, I've played in -15c several times. Aeg's tend to shoot poorly as well, probably because buckings hardens. My evo scorpion I used to run with for the longest time shoots 1/2 to 2/3rds the distance. Then there's snow getting in everywhere.

[@Fede_uyz]

Honestly, ive used AEGs for all my airsoft all the time, as my play time increases, my trigger finger itches for a gbbr.

[@MK384]

Can you make a video of the Bolt Carrier group parts and how to upgrade to make it more reliable?

[@bsplt]

will using handwarmer in the magpuch instead of sticking it to the mag be okay? I was thinking of using this method, but was wondering if the temperature difference could be a problem?

[@Ragnoz]

Need more power gas

[@MercutioUK2006]

Interesting stuff indeed, I hadn't seen such complete temp/psi figures for Nuprol gases before. Do you have any idea what the Vorsk run at?

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

Wish we could tell you. Manufacturers seem loathe to disclose the contents of their gases so guess-and-check is about the best you can do in many cases.

[@MercutioUK2006]

@@ExplosiveEnterprises Indeed, but I had to ask :) In some cases, the manufacturers even put scientific nonsense on the label so that doesn't help us either! I do have a list of "nominal" PSI ratings at room temperature but that nuprol document that you displayed is by far the most concise when it comes to a particular gas. Anyway, you got yourselves a sub for covering a topic that seemingly mystifies people and has done in my 20+ years of playing.

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

@@MercutioUK2006 Much appreciated- and to make it even less useful, keep in mind that different gases may have different pressure/temperature curves. So, even if a gas is advertising 200 PSI at room temperature, it's entirely possible it could actually produce /less/ pressure than propane when you take it down to freezing. If the manufacturer won't tell you exactly what's in it, the only way to know is to test. We wish it weren't so opaque, but at least with propylene/MAPP you know exactly what you're getting.

[@MercutioUK2006]

@@ExplosiveEnterprises Absolutely! I tend to stick to Nuprol as the UK is fairly mild most years, but with the current prices I am considering MAPP + an adapter instead. Nuprol seems to have a reasonably consistent curve but in years past I've had, as many people have, such trouble with juggling gas types/brands......that I have launched at least one poor glock across the room in frustration 😆

[@RekzysTheTitan]

my strategy works really well! Use an AEG when its cold.

[@blah2357]

Great guide! What would you recommend doing to shim the magazine catch?

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

Strips cut from soda cans make great shims, just superglue in place.

[@blah2357]

@Explosive Enterprises thanks for the tip! I just tried it this weekend and it works beautifully. I actually had an issue with the nozzle/bolt not grabbing a bb if the magazine wasn't sitting high enough.

[@Anonymous-ud5qe]

Is it bad to use black gas in a green gas gun? (Specifically an AAP01C)

[@CyberKatze]

If i only saw this video before i sold my gbb...

[@Wuqz]

Is MAP-Pro hard on pistol internals? specifically looking to use with elite force Glock 45. Also curious if there's any upgrades that'll make running CO2 more viable?

[@lukewoodside9420]

I thought co2 was better for cooldown and fps in cold weather?

[@Marvin9994]

would a tm glock inside like a aegis kit be more efficient in the winter to a tm mws?

[@nemesis6652]

Whats the name of your chest rig

[@deadshutternyc]

I use propane in summer and winter and not one issue has occurred. All mags are always running 100%. Only con is that it stinks.

[@1337rage]

The you connect your hPa adapter to the magazines, is really unhandy in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, it's your setup. But just out of curiosity: do you know that there exist hPa adapters that are way smaller and work just like the standard valves?

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

You mean because the AUG mag HPA connectors are on hoses, rather than directly replacing the fill valves? Yeah, we're aware; it's a necessary evil for this particular setup (these are actually custom-made hicaps, not just tapped gas mags) to keep the valves accessible and avoid blocking the magazine release. If you check out our video on how the mags were made, it might make more sense.

[@TorksTube]

what is the difference between the blue bottle and the yellow bottle? or its the same?

[@Rook9696]

Blue is propane, yellow is map gas. Map is higher pressure than propane. You can buy it at most hardware stores in torch bottles like what they showed

[@sony0515tw]

Awesome

[@filipciborowski6443]

Is it true that mapp pro wears out orings quicker?

[@DDAR.025]

Quick question about hammer springs- is not a good idea anyway to have a weaker hammer spring or does this have negative effects if you use it in normal temperatures/ summer time?

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

In warmer weather, a weaker hammer spring will reduce felt recoil, though still produces better efficiency. Really, the main disadvantage to a weak recoil spring in summer is the risk of light-striking. We'll talk about this more in an upcoming Q&A.

[@DDAR.025]

@@ExplosiveEnterprises Ahhhh I see, thank you for getting back so quick and that makes a lot of sense thank you! 🙏

[@pistazieneis415]

these tips work as well with pistols? I have a glock with a roni kit that I'd love to keep using during winter

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

Yup! All the same tips and tricks apply, although with a Glock you may not be able to find a weaker hammer spring, or a weaker recoil spring that will still cycle. Using a stronger propellant, though, should keep it going.

[@pistazieneis415]

@@ExplosiveEnterprises I see, instead of getting a weaker recoil spring I'm planning on buying an outer barrel made to not create the ''barrel tilt'' so the slide runs smoothly without touching it, may work as well right?

[@danmang923]

Where did you get the old school aim point?

[@rayndown]

Is that a WE M16A1? Thinking of maybe buying one for my dad. Is it good?

[@WolfMan-nf4lv]

Nope, he runs Viper Tech ARs

[@greywhite]

does that lower have an auto sear wtf lol? does it use a real lower?

[@MK384]

For a King Arms GBBR which has the WA system, what magazine brand do you recommend? All the stock magazine sucks ass.

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

EB-Tech lightweights are probably the best WA-type magazine you can get right now. Heavies are good too and a fair bit cheaper but, well, heavy.

[@MK384]

@@ExplosiveEnterprises Thank You sir. I will like and Subscribe

[@JoeyParkerJ]

Is this a Viper?

[@SpartanJess]

GBB in cold weather!? Impossible! 👀

[@cmr708]

get co2 mags and fixed

[@alastairpei]

Meach Winter

[@opairsoft8100]

We need MS Paint Minions in this video to truly have a masterpiece

[@alastairpei]

@@opairsoft8100 awesome

[@greyfish7907]

What M16 GBBR are you running?

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

Viper Tech M16A1.

[@neilrobinson3083]

With ghk m4 it suggests taking the weight out of the buffer weight for winter. If that helps. I've not tried it yet.

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

GHKs use pretty weak recoil springs to begin with, so that's a case where reducing the reciprocating mass can improve efficiency without compromising the carrier's ability to fully cycle. More importantly, you can always just put the buffer weight back in if it doesn't improve performance, so it's definitely worth trying and seeing what happens.

[@sogerc1]

@@ExplosiveEnterprises I 3D printed a new buffer for my WE 416. It's 28 gramms lighter (about 11% from the reciprocating mass) but I can't confirm if it's doing anything, I'm still waiting for my lighter spring from anareus. They must have a lot of orders or something because they are dragging their asses!

[@michagromek6342]

👍

[@artemius5513]

fallout 4 gun nut level 4 players be like:

[@patrikpape5768]

good content. and i dont play gbbr´s :D

[@rexmcstiller4675]

Unfortunaly you can´t get the Alyen kit anymore.

[@ajeganwalsh]

Except in ireland its currently 15 degrees Celsius in November thanks to global warming. 🤣

[@SkywalkFPV]

Co2 for GBB guns is actually better than green gas, it can easily pull heavy realistic full metal slides and is way more compact to carry a few cartridge compared with one big green gas tank.. For Co2 you should also add silicone lubrication on the insert to increase longevity of gun, or buy special capsules that have silicone oil in them and use that after every 10 normal cartridge.. It is just way more consistent, the fps decrease is not so bad like green gas and it just works better in all climates.. For green gas to be efficient you need them less realistic half slide guns.. I have seen colt 1911 work years on end with co2 and they did not break at all.. Overall having GBBR is fun and all, but in the end blowback is less accurate and to be competitive in airsoft games AEGs are actually allround more superior and even better than HPA.. AEGs can have really nice sound and keeps the realism somewhat without connecting hose and paintball tanks.. GBB is only really needed to have in the sidearm and co2 would be my choice of gas for sure and for the main a full spec custom AEG would be worthy.. As for collector, training and heavy maintenance lovers GBBR has some value.. When it comes to backyard plinking, I know for sure my neighbor would rather hear an AEG than GBBR that is way to loud and less stealth also for in games..

[@GriFF-]

My man this is possibly the most confidently and consistently incorrect KZbin comment I've ever seen, congratulations.

[@SkywalkFPV]

@@GriFF- Tell me about it, I believe every sentence is more than correct or based on my experienced opinion.. I am sorry for you if you invested all your dimes into HPA, just run gas for in your sidearm.. And if you want second opinion for example watch: 'Are HPA Guns DEAD?! - AEGs are Superior!' from Airsoft GI with 750k subs compared to this 3k subbed channel..

[@rexmcstiller4675]

4:24 Why? Just why? If you want an effecient gun than use an AEG or HPA.

[@sogerc1]

Because AEGs are sewing machines made to look like guns and HPA is for ghost buster loadouts.

[@IM2BASED4THISPLACE]

AEGs are whack bro

[@1337rage]

I own a Hk416 (GBBR), a SSG24 (Bolt Action), M4 (S-AEG (cuz German law only allows Semi)) and a MTW hPa. And I need to tell you, that every system has its advantages. I like them all. It depends on the field and the game mode which replica I'm bringing.