I feel like Toriyama has a goldmine of unused character designs like his early designs for buu saga gohan were pretty cool especially one where gohan had his base form cell saga hair cut a bit shorter and a trunks like jacket
@aegisreflector12394 жыл бұрын
Check out Toriyamas character designs for Tobal number 1 and 2. He put really cool shoes on most the cast
@maxithalo77964 жыл бұрын
If you look at his early designs for cell, one of the faces is exactly like beerus, so yeah, the guy does keep tabs on a lot of good designs that he can ocasionally use later
@polterghost_4 жыл бұрын
Theres this one Cell design which was reused recently in Dragon Quest 11
@tumamaeswatona78273 жыл бұрын
I believe this design ended up being used for Goten in GT, except for the jacket
@BlazeCon972 жыл бұрын
@@polterghost_ And there's the Abbot in Dragon Quest IX which looks like an alternate version of second form Cell when he gets transformed
4 жыл бұрын
#1 come up with characters personality #2 Come up with design of the face with loose pencil sketches #3 then move on the body and clothing #4 Then lastly move on the color #5 Simplify your characters as much as possible! #6 sometimes take inspiration #7 give characters a distinguishing silhouettes Golden nugget: Simplify your design in a interesting way!
@Radiomen_IV10 ай бұрын
Elaborate on silhouette
10 ай бұрын
@RealityKun Basically the very shape of the character that is very striking. Look at frieza and goku. We all know goku by his height and hair. We know vegeta by his hair and body shape. We know Majin buu by his banana head shape and his fat body with the cape big gloves. That stuff!
@Radiomen_IV10 ай бұрын
@ Thank you!
@snowsugardashietheaircatgi93210 ай бұрын
RIP Mr. Akira, thank you for making one of the greatest anime series in the whole universe, fly high and keep collecting those Dragon Balls. 🙏🙏 For those unaware, yes, Akira Toriyama died on March 1st from acute subdural hematoma, his family and some people he worked with announced it today. He was 68, and his funeral was already held, but his family does not want to be interviewed at the moment, so in the meantime, pay your respects by watching DB and collecting manga too, it’s a proper way to honor a legend. 🙏🙏😇😇
@busymike4 жыл бұрын
Toriyama is a genius. I love his clean designs.
@SoulsOfWisdom4 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how the rejected examples sometimes get morphed into other characters.
@migy9k5994 жыл бұрын
saw a buu lookin monaka
@SoulsOfWisdom4 жыл бұрын
@@migy9k599 The one that stood out for me is the Yakon looking Buu.
@justajobro12663 жыл бұрын
In the buy sketches there was a guy who looked like botamo
@dustmasterflex15413 жыл бұрын
@@justajobro1266 His characters look the same.
@yeepsleep3 жыл бұрын
I think that Frieza prototype may have inspired Dodoria
@mechajay33584 жыл бұрын
Toriyama's Designing Philosophy: _"Less is More."_
@DankMayogetsnogirls4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sad to hear Toyotaro didn't follow that philosophy :(
@Timidogenerico4 жыл бұрын
That's architecture usual philosophy and it works
@user-gk6nt5gi5n4 жыл бұрын
Minimalism art movement
@RedShadowAMV4 жыл бұрын
unless it's ssj3
@jasonone87264 жыл бұрын
Dank Mayo Huh?
@RiskandRitual4 жыл бұрын
makes a lot of sense that he would start with heads and faces. those features tend to be the most focused on in comics and storytelling do to their ability to express and emote character feelings better than any other body part. great video as always, i always learn something new and useful from them.
@maxw98334 жыл бұрын
Damn a lesson can be learned from Toriayama, "simple is sometimes better" look at final form Frieza that is as simple as it gets. Take away the weird horns, body shapes, body armors, and just make him look humanoid, his simplistic, weak-looking design is what makes him more menacing, especially the eyes......damn those red eyes gives me chills
@GeekedOutNeckbeard4 жыл бұрын
"it's no good if you can't tell who's who" *Toyotaro has left the chat*
@jasonone87264 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@zamasu35633 жыл бұрын
?
@najmashahin94273 жыл бұрын
What?
@K_Geedorah9 ай бұрын
What does this even mean.
@kda9x9 ай бұрын
@@K_Geedorahscientists have been pondering for years now
Aw man, i wish your videos were like 1 hour long, they're so good!
@Ben-hw7wn4 жыл бұрын
@@ajmusiq6742 you’d watch 1hour bruh 😂😂😂😂😂 doubt it
@riturajrabha42144 жыл бұрын
no
@robinthestate65484 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-hw7wn i would if it's as good as this 5 minutes.
@rudtastic3 жыл бұрын
less is more.
@DarkNinja-bf6hk2 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-hw7wn i put on hour long vids while im doing something else
@taylorbenson62844 жыл бұрын
"Its no good if you can't tell who's who." Goku, bardock, goku black, turles, goten, goku jr.
@forgottenrelics11974 жыл бұрын
Lol but to be fair only Goku and Goten where created by Toriyama. The rest where from Toei, although he did redesign Bardock so that kinda counts haha
@taylorbenson62844 жыл бұрын
@@forgottenrelics1197 lol you're right. I'll let that one slide...for now
@tastedivinefury21984 жыл бұрын
Well u can tell😭
@pumpingpriest58934 жыл бұрын
to be fair though, all of these characters never share the same chapters for the exception of black and turles. For example: Goten looks like kid goku but goku is grown up for a long up until then and the same thing goes for bardock.
@tastedivinefury21984 жыл бұрын
@@pumpingpriest5893 Goten looks like Mini adult goku at best but u can sorta distinguish them
@labeilleautiste631810 ай бұрын
I love how we certainly discovered so many aspect of Toriyama as an hommage its beautiful
@tenyson418710 ай бұрын
Rest in Peace Toriyama-Sensei
@Matisyahuc10 ай бұрын
a 4 min video that will helps lots of people who are trying to come up with characters.. my friend, this is like finding a diamond in the desert
@Dewaynesite12 жыл бұрын
To me the removal of Goku jumpsuit logo or Vegeta armor changes felt like the characters were growing like real life people. If you look at Goku and the gang and Vegeta in the Saiyan's arc vs. The Cell's saga you see the big change in each character from attitude to their style.
@openingdown30514 жыл бұрын
No matter how long your videos are, they’re always really fun to watch because I always learn things that I probably wouldn’t know without you. These analysis videos have taught me a lot about Toriyama and other mangaka and animators’ styles to the point where I decided to start a project where I redraw frames from DBS, so I can thank you for inspiring me to do things such as that.
@forgottenrelics11974 жыл бұрын
That's awesome man and no problem :)
@supremerose87164 жыл бұрын
Forgottenrelics is so underrated he does such good videos and he has a fraction of what he deserves
@vindicsun589410 ай бұрын
R.I.P Goat
@JBAnti4 жыл бұрын
I felt the impatience in my legs imagining drawing all that over and over
@onyxt35894 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these Toriyama vids.
@AristoSwizzy4 жыл бұрын
I really hope that you will post more often because I really enjoy your videos,keep it up man we will always support you
@forgottenrelics11974 жыл бұрын
I do this part time and getting one video out a week is hard enough haha so sorry about the lack of content and thanks also for your support :)
@cardinalrule68103 жыл бұрын
When I was younger, I thought Trunks had one of the coolest character designs I had ever seen. And Dragon Ball Z is the greatest anime of all time.
@wideface3444 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual man!
@forgottenrelics11974 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@thecool_dude74904 жыл бұрын
3:53 Wow, im not use to seeing krillin that tall!!!
@forgottenrelics11974 жыл бұрын
Same lol and especially different considering how Toriyama drew him so short in BoG!
@Punchout1014 жыл бұрын
@@forgottenrelics1197 I heard that the character models in BoG were changed by the animators, though don't quote me on that
@TroisB4 жыл бұрын
I think the new animated series made him a little bit shorter than he used to be in the manga (+ Goku was only a teenager on this screenshot)
@mpoops29364 жыл бұрын
well, Krillin was in fact taller than we've depicted him. sometimes they make him shorter for some jokes in DBZ but without anyone knowing he gets gradualy shorter during the series. Just watch the Piccolo Jr. arc once more and you can see how tall Krillin actually is when he's a teenager like goku
@fromYAHUSHAreborn914 жыл бұрын
@@mpoops2936 He's supposed to be 5'0 I believe. Short, but they're drawing him like a foot shorter in super.
@lonecolamarine4 жыл бұрын
0:05 That is just creative AF bloody hell xD
@MisterBirju4 жыл бұрын
"A green human feels unnatural, which is good."
@erockbrox848410 ай бұрын
I will tell you the secret to good character design. Make the character easily identifiable. Make the character cool. Make the character something that once you see it, you can never forget it Give the character some personality. Sit down with the character and really try and bring this character to life, such that, you can predict how the character will act in certain situations. This makes the story telling so much easier and convincing.
@nikodemoliniak448210 ай бұрын
Rip Akira toriyama Thanks Akira for everythink
@rickysword39459 ай бұрын
I’m projecting my own manga and videos like this are gold… thank you Sir! 🙏🏻 Dragonball is such a great influence to me, not only for my art style, for my whole life. I started with martial arts long time ago and kungfu is my path. Still I read Dragonball and watch the anime and still it gives me emotions and inspiration to be stronger and to improve day by day
@casual-disaster Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only artist who starts with the face first.
@superbn0va4 жыл бұрын
I definitely prefer “SIMPLE” designs
@SentinalSlice10 ай бұрын
Rest in peace
@dreamguardian83203 ай бұрын
Amen.
@IronLordFitness4 жыл бұрын
Toriyama won the title of "art genius". I think he and Matt Groening are the greatest graphic artist of the last 30 years. Their respective style is so recognizable, they had so much success with what they created that yeah, to me they're true geniuses.
@jamaaldagreatest27483 жыл бұрын
If we’re talking comics too then I’d have to give Alex Ross a vote too. All three styles are incredibly different but they’re all amazing for what they try to convey with their art.
@songoku771510 ай бұрын
Thank you for this analysis
@FredMains10 ай бұрын
Rest In Peace Akira Toriyama
@dreamguardian83203 ай бұрын
Amen.
@dusky97054 жыл бұрын
Imagine if he went with the cell with hair like I wonder how would that work
@Tricolorrr5334 жыл бұрын
1:31 there's a Majin Beerus there wtf
@doggyfizzle7193 жыл бұрын
Looks more like a skinny babidi
@butternutbandit57224 жыл бұрын
“Tries to design character types he hasnt done much of before”. He must have given up on that philosophy a loooong time ago
@Easy420skate4 жыл бұрын
He hardly has a hand in things nowadays.
@Easy420skate4 жыл бұрын
@Some characters aren't allowed nowadays compared to the time he is talking about
@mikansan82164 жыл бұрын
Toyotaro designs most of the new characters with help and advice from Toriyama.
@devforfun56184 жыл бұрын
what are you taking about, tournament of power has a lot of interesting characters, the gods, the robots, the angels, the sailor moon squad, he even managed to make different powers
@Ineedgames4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickmulopo7957 I feel like the closest we got to Toriyama in the ToP were the magical girl universe. Even their strongest warrior turned into a fat buu which is very Toriyama.
@aaronrowell69432 жыл бұрын
It's always interesting even though I'm not an artist to hear people's design philosophies Heard from a lot of artists that makes sense that he starts with the face because they bring up that the eyes are usually the most important part of a face and a design in general. The less is more approach certainly interesting and sometimes this the smaller character is usually the more powerful they are, not that you can't have big and imposing characters like King piccolo but a lot of his buildings would be especially in their final forms would be shorter than the protagonist: Vegeta, Frieza, kid Buu being examples. So when he makes them tall like Cell it makes a point like cell vs gohan
@GatSaiden4 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. Saludos from Argentina!
@Chessbox09Ай бұрын
The Dragonball/Toriyama style is so unique, it's almost like a stylistic subgenre unto itself.
@bonkingtimez4 жыл бұрын
1:25 We just gonna ignore that badass dragon face buu sketch. Honestly prefer that design from the original
@zamasu35633 жыл бұрын
It's really cool
@cavemanbuddyolpal4 жыл бұрын
0:09 that’s not a forehead that’s a fivehead
@Fireflyfan27104 жыл бұрын
No, it's an over 9000 head
@abdouaboud74904 жыл бұрын
Man looking like frieza third form if he go bald
@JaydenNwakuche10 ай бұрын
Rip to the goat
@haniflawson92252 жыл бұрын
Toriyama will sometimes swipe elements from his other designs, too. The most obvious example is Broly resembling Super Trunks, though that was on purpose. Other times, it's less noticeable. For instance, someone pointed out that Gohan's superhero costume has the same colors as Cell's first form. I doubt it means anything, rather, Toriyama probably needed a color scheme and decided on that. But those small details make his character designs even more interesting, like Easter eggs.
@TehWhiteTiger4 жыл бұрын
'It's no good if you can tell whos who' One of the reasons i struggle to enjoy a lot of action manga, so hard to follow but Dragoball despite its hugely action based premise was always a claen read to me.
@keanusamuels17824 жыл бұрын
Thank you for including me
@ahmedbenkhalfallah65024 жыл бұрын
I swear if i had a dollar whenever someone shows Akira Toriyama and uses a picture of Go Nagai (creator of Devilman and Mazinger) id have enough to buy a PS5
@black.sasuke.uchiha4 жыл бұрын
This was a really insightful video. I subscribed!
@lonecolamarine4 жыл бұрын
OOOH so that's why Dragon quest's art looks so much like DBZ
@DaniGerman14993 жыл бұрын
Fun to think about some of those other designs and how they would have worked in the show
@oussamagharbi54194 жыл бұрын
dbz staff : what design will we chose for freeza? toryama : yes
@mr.purple2504 жыл бұрын
*toei
@thrwwccnt5845 Жыл бұрын
you got a chuckle out of me for putting a picture of Go Nagai with the caption" Akira Toriyama"
@0geekAlot04 жыл бұрын
Video is neat and clean, very rare nowadays.
@bigoof41014 жыл бұрын
farmer w the shotgun was definitely an unused character design that he somehow caught a liking to
@sigiligus10 ай бұрын
His early art was absolutely amazing, it's always been a shame to me that he kind of got burned out drawing and simplified everything.
@kevincmejia9 ай бұрын
Imagine being drawing weekly manga over 10 years with no rest, anyone would be burned out in less than that
@noisemarine5614 жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping it brief
@forgottenrelics11974 жыл бұрын
no probs
@juanm.38404 жыл бұрын
I wish I can draw like Akira Toriyama
@GameArts12 жыл бұрын
Cool take on his works!
@esophagoose4 жыл бұрын
This was pretty interesting
@endergenesis26184 жыл бұрын
In the thumbnail frieza looks like dodoria
@billpk4910 ай бұрын
Rip Akira...
@dreamguardian83203 ай бұрын
Amen.
@JezzmanGAMES4 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: the drawing at 2:44 isn't sped up.
@christianbanks7458 Жыл бұрын
You see Goku Gohan and vegeta look more and more older and mature as the saga’s progress, that is incredible skill from toriyama to pull that off 👏
@bossman92594 жыл бұрын
Thank god your vid is short otherwise i wouldn't click on it
@mgshadow1554 жыл бұрын
Therapist: Buures isn’t real, he can’t hurt you Buures: 1:25
@MrMrannoying3 жыл бұрын
I liked the length of this one
@nolahahnshouse33899 ай бұрын
Rest in peace Toriyama
@dreamguardian83203 ай бұрын
Amen.
@ketamineaddict56594 жыл бұрын
It’s ironic how the designs are all very different but every character more or less has a very similar face? Especially the humans
@lucassantossj4 жыл бұрын
You notice it in his game character designs. There are basically a Gokuesk, a Bulmaesk, a Pilafesk...
@ketamineaddict56594 жыл бұрын
@@lucassantossj exactly, still great just very similar.
@Angel_mode4 жыл бұрын
i went back in time to 2011 when flashing pictures in the screen was funny
@queenskelaton65072 жыл бұрын
I think my favorite part of his design process is his tendency to introduce double acts so you can get a feel for characters quickly
@elderlyinfant39172 жыл бұрын
Reminds me a lot of Alex Toth's process: "Strip it all down to essentials, then draw the hell out of what's left"
@codeninja1004 жыл бұрын
Bro this is gold thank you
@connorbeith32323 жыл бұрын
Now that thumbnail is what I call a glowup!
@Dortnited2 жыл бұрын
when it comes to character designs noone can beat Akira Toriyama
@dustybandit02144 жыл бұрын
Oh god was Frieza originally supposed to be like dodoria I’m glad we have the current frieza instead of the one in the thumbnail
@cantdestroyher72454 жыл бұрын
I think the beauty of his design is that he doesn’t try to design anyone to look “cool”
@xenogen3724 жыл бұрын
Yea I wish he did more stuff for DB. Nowadays characters are designed for people who don't watch the series and think that every character is supposed to have the badass, angry looking eyes that the Saiyans have
@animzen76534 жыл бұрын
@@xenogen372 i like grenola's charcter design but he is designed by toyitaro
I remember seeing an episode of dragonball when I was like 8 and the only character I remembered was piccolo and then when I was 12 I got into Dragonball more
@eggzisstenshulldredd4 жыл бұрын
SAME, I knew about Frieza and Dragon Ball (Z Kai) before I even knew it was anime! I just thought it was another cartoon on Nicktoons Primetime!
@vinceamaro13823 жыл бұрын
I love the opening.
@bossi_plays2 жыл бұрын
2:22 does anyone know which game this was? i was hit by a sense of nostalgia and can't remember this game but remember the multiple class/jobs.
@PresentenseMedia3 ай бұрын
I feel Toriyama on the redrawing thing.
@mymouseaintbroken4 жыл бұрын
give this man 520,000 subs
@dr._meme42904 жыл бұрын
I love these videos
@majinchu69383 жыл бұрын
short and sweet. nice.
@Gredran4 жыл бұрын
I am not sure if you put the Mr. Satan art next to Buu(looks to be on the same paper though, but I never know with editing these days) but if Toriyama was designing Buu, with Mr. Satan next to him, it's interesting how always knew Mr. Satan was gonna be incredibly important to Buu's arc.
@forgottenrelics11974 жыл бұрын
I didn't however that page is from Daizenshuu 4 and has a bunch of other sketches on one large page so there is a high chance whoever put the book together could've just arranged them like that. But if not that would be an interesting detail!
@antoniodbz58504 жыл бұрын
So Krillin was designed to be up to Goku's shoulder? In "Dragon Ball" he was that much tall, but Z and Super made him super short!!! THIS MAKES ME MAD!!!
@jasonone87262 жыл бұрын
Nah, that was just in the character sheets, Krillin was much shorter in the DB manga.
@omega24604 жыл бұрын
0:11 says "please help7" if you're wondering
@pokesonav4 жыл бұрын
I wonder, why didn't he just remove the spots from Cell, after he achieved Perfection?
@BonnieNakagawa4 жыл бұрын
Maybe he thought it was too much of a difference? Or liked how the spots looked but didn't like having to constantly redraw them?
@jasonone87262 жыл бұрын
He might of had frustrations with the spots, much later in the Cell Saga, after he designed Perfect Cell.
@skylean72684 жыл бұрын
0:07 give us this frieza back 😤😤💯
@forgottenrelics11974 жыл бұрын
big facts
@dl0680 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if we got that C h o n k y Frieza as his "Final form" in the series (From the thumbnail). Not even SSJ Goku could be able to ki blast that belly. 😂
@carlwallace3964 жыл бұрын
Frieza is like Oruchimaru I didn't watch naruto until I was in my 20s but still I always heard of him..
@mad.chicken4 жыл бұрын
The first concept frieza is the fusion of king cold and dodoria
@kpimkpim3499 ай бұрын
'Character designs he hasnt done before' *contines sketching Goku Black*
@jasonone87269 ай бұрын
Who's taken over Goku's body.
@kpimkpim3499 ай бұрын
@jasonone8726 good point *continues watching tree of might*
@jasonone87269 ай бұрын
@kpimkpim349 Did he design Turles? I know Toriyama designed most of the movie characters, but I'm not aware of this one.
@kpimkpim3499 ай бұрын
@jasonone8726 if he designed Goku he designed him too lol but I could be wrong
@jasonone87269 ай бұрын
@kpimkpim349 Not every character in DB was designed by Toriyama.
@kaioken6544 жыл бұрын
I heard one time that final form frieza is what Toriyama thought aliens looked like
@forgottenrelics11974 жыл бұрын
Yeah I kinda remember hearing that although I know for certain that he based frieza's design of a queen so I'm unsure how accurate that is
@kaioken6544 жыл бұрын
@@forgottenrelics1197 maybe it's just the final form with the round head, it looks alienish to me
@roccygnus25704 жыл бұрын
Frieza's third form is a definite reference to Alien