Akiyama Shinichi vs Ayanokoji Kiyotaka | Full-Scale Comparison

[@XuraEclipse]

I forgot to add some categories in there Psychological Manipulation - Akiyama Pure Manipulation - Akiyama Academics - Ayanokoji and Charisma should've went to Akiyama

[@mochithecat2727]

Nah you did great W edit 👌

[@CeruleanEyesOfValor]

bro did u add realistic thinking to koji💀 akiyama is the most realistic character in fiction wtf💀 and even said koji mid-high diffs in intellect💀

[@XuraEclipse]

​@KLEIN-0 Yes I did... but I don't think realistic thinking relates to being a realistic character. I know Akiyama is the most realistic character. For intellegence: FSIQ and Intel So that's why I put mid-high diff but if you disagree then I'll still respect your opinion 🎉

[@CeruleanEyesOfValor]

@@XuraEclipseAki gets Intelligence their is no debate their I wanted to see about the fsiq one By feats Wmi and Psi to Koji Fri and Vci to aki no debate their cuz aki's knowledge is close to Koji and The knowledge about Life is Alot better than Koji But on the other Hands Aki's leadership , Persuation and The ability to Build influence from scratch is Far better than koji so he gets Vci too And if U read Liar game than u know Aki gets Vsi simply due to his russian roulette feats and other feats that require extreame observations Fsiq to Aki Overall intellect Aki mid-High diff

[@CeruleanEyesOfValor]

@@XuraEclipse akiyama has the most realistic way of thinking so their is no way Koji gets it Rest are fax but overall Aki mid diffs

[@Cow1751]

When this song plays, it's an instant win for the Liar King

[@mynameisntjoe3024]

PRI (17 card poker game, minority game, pandemic game, musical chairs game, final game), QRI (contraband game), EQ management (musical chairs game, contraband game, clearly better at managing others' emotions), analogical reasoning (not sure, but maybe russian roulette with him testing. What Koji's feat did you choose?), anticipation (anticipated all the countermeasures Yokoya would make in musical chairs game and contraband game), predictions (predicted an entire final game, predicted huge chunk of musical chairs game), formulation speed (Koji's best feat, I think: Y2V1 against Hosen, Akiyama's best feat: 4 kingdoms game, right after hearing the rules planning out an entire game and formulating a strategy that lasted til the end before the game even began), LTP (final game), planning versatility (contraband game), hot reading (ngl contraband game is enough lmao, with him assessing the relationship between Yokoya and his team based on what the guy he persuaded said), difficult to counter (physical stats aside, purely by outsmarting Akiyama is leagues above), strategy length (4 kingdoms game), quick=faster thinking, decision making (there is only 1 slight mistake Akiyama has ever made, Ayanokoji made 3 that I can think of: asking Sudo for advice, manipulating Ryueen for months, tanking a hit from Albert and all of that just to beat them up anyways and get Ryueen to bother him even more and more), direct manipulation (4 kingdoms game, contraband game, pandemic game), guilt tripping (pandemic game indirect guilt tripping), charisma (bruh), blackmailing (pandemic game is enough), exortion (first rr and pandemic game are easily enough), demoralization (the very first game), emotional manipulation, naturalistic intel (feats), linguistic intel (roots of A is enough), critical thk, associative thk (russian roulette+poker game), realistic thinking (>>), perceptual/conceptual rsn to AKiyama What feat of fallacy did you use for Koji? Btw knowledge application is more important than knowledge, the way Akiyama uses stuff like magic trick, destroying a card or using his knowledge of the shuffles/mass distribution is way better than stuff Koji knows but never applied Manipulation: Akiyama mid diff outsmarting: Akiyama low-mid diff RLS (stats equalized): Akiyama no diff FSIQ: Koji high diff

[@XuraEclipse]

If you are referring to analogical reasoning. Ayanokoji stated humans are not dogs since dogs don't share with one another as humans bargain to gain their own benefits. Also, the analogy "Human are tools" could be considered an analogical reasoning For fallacies, I do not remember the feat I used. Uhh... for charisma that was by accident.

[@Hugm4l]

Didn't Akiyama use analogical reasoning during the first round when explaining how cognitive dissonance works again during the Contraband Game he used Nazi's as a reference to how Yokoya is controlling his team (ch43)

[@Convert3d]

The beats tapped into my brain💀

[@YasmeenShaikh-bd1vf]

Seduction goes to Akiyama , He rizzed up fukuguna without even knowing 😂. Logical reasoning goes to Akiyama as well Critical thinking Akiyama as well .

[@hallo6279]

Ma guy was speechless when Nao said that literally!😂

[@arju4035]

You have a point man.😆😆

[@raaccountii4726]

true even tho ayanokoji got a harem🤣

[@DRUNKENMASTER_40_years_ago]

Daniere danse has become Akiyama's theme song right now

[@Hugm4lsecondaccount]

It really is

[@HBLIGHT]

Respect for making this. This is a 3 minute edit and usually 20 second edits take like 2 hours for me so I assume this took a hell lot of time to edit and its not just that, you had to think about who gets what. This is something I would never do so I have a lot of respect for you making this, W edit

[@reversegigachad]

You're craazy good bro

[@HBLIGHT]

@@reversegigachad thanks

[@VenerableImmortal]

W Edit🔥🔥. I agree with everything although the Overall diff could be High Diff.

[@JrXtilzzX]

This edit is amazing🔥, agree with the overall outcome

[@FlameEMT]

great edit man! People been now trying to argue that Kiyo extreme diff Akiyama lol Currently rn Akiyama wins this mid diff

[@umarshermatov6887]

I confess this is really masterpiece 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@lucastomaz7422]

Aki takes naturalistic direct and emotional manipulations imo Very accurate take and W edit.

[@Hugm4l]

Question: Akiyama vs Ayanokoji in WMI? You usually claim Akiyama takes WMI against Ayanokoji

[@lucastomaz7422]

@@Hugm4l aki takes imo

[@Nagitudo]

​@@lucastomaz7422 vc ainda acha que ele ganha? E aquele feito do Ayanokoji na sala bramca?

[@lucastomaz7422]

@@Nagitudo atualmente tenho o Koji levando

[@jmuchiha58]

The ability to adapt on any situation will be the key who will win between the two of them.

[@Bic-daxc69]

IRL to akiyama mid diff to maybe mid- high and akiyama wins overall i dosagree with a bit of the points didtibution but the overall result was fine

[@cyrkaade970]

sorry but i don't see Aki winning over Koji. Koji takes very high diff comfortably.

[@donfalcone1793]

lmao

[@cyrkaade970]

@@donfalcone1793?

[@cyrkaade970]

@ahmadmunif7479 yea bro this is harsh truth. there is no way for Aki to win against him

[@jokepixel3886]

Só falar um feito do Ayano que supere oque Akiyama fez no arco contrabando.​@@cyrkaade970

[@sprite_boi]

fax + w song + w edit + w channel

[@bobzbagien9150]

Goated video👍🔥

[@Nexfi]

EP -Ayanakouji Setting traps-Ayanakouji VCI-Ayanakouji

[@YasmeenShaikh-bd1vf]

Setting traps - Akiyama VCI - Ayankoji EP - Ayanokoji.

[@deoxy251]

How tf ayano takes setting traps over akiyama? Lmfao

[@harrypotter4795]

ayano aint getting traps against aki in a million years

[@Dow12]

Shove vci , wmi in your &ass. But anything that requires strategy Akiyama takes this...like setting traps ...even in the first game.. akiyama set up a trap by sending the letter of incorrect time . Revival round - that guy sold votes , making him have less votes than everyone , exposed Yokoya's clairvoyance using a trap . Ayano doesn't have a single chance against him . He only takes categories that needs statements to boost 😂

[@Nexfi]

Blud is mad@@Dow12

[@inferno3054]

VCI to Ayanokoji, FRI to Ayanokoji (debatably)

[@lucastomaz7422]

How FRI to ayano?

[@kirayoshikage4142]

FRI is not debatable (Also Aki takes it)

[@Dow12]

There is no anime character that takes fri from akiyama. Fri depends on reasoning...and akiyama reasoning is miles better koji...even akiyama from LG roots of A has better reasoning than cote LN . Also akiyama low diffs is manipulation ( you can debate if you want)

[@inferno3054]

@@Dow12 Baku?

[@Dow12]

@@inferno3054 yes. Fri is dependent on reasoning..so akiyama takes this . Just because Baku outsmarts akiyama... doesn't mean he has better reasoning, fri , strategy than akiyama lol .

[@Aa__Bb]

Overall diff was fine but how did Koji take logical reasoning lmao

[@XuraEclipse]

Might've overestimated ayanokojis logical thinking* 🤔 Did give akiyama logical reasoning

[@Aa__Bb]

@@XuraEclipse W edit anyway 🥂

[@Dow12]

​@@XuraEclipseEven logical thinking.. akiyama takes this. Really dude ... Everything akiyama does is logical..there is an explanation of his every thought or action.

[@arju4035]

​@@XuraEclipseI think Akiyama wasn't using enough of his capabilities. But, Akiyama's Mathematical and Logical reasoning was fucking beyond imagination.

[@cakephone7893]

Agreed with the difficulty but Akiyama should take some of Ayanokouji have, W edit

[@Hugm4lsecondaccount]

All hail the Liar King

[@YasmeenShaikh-bd1vf]

The Lie eater enters

[@Hugm4lsecondaccount]

@@YasmeenShaikh-bd1vfBaku solos

[@arju4035]

​@@YasmeenShaikh-bd1vfThey both are Goats and I thibk they will truly respect each other.

[@zakariya_z7z]

I‘m reading Liar Game at the moment and I‘m at Vol 7 Chapter 64 and in my opinion Akiyama gets destroyed by Koji till now

[@DRUNKENMASTER_40_years_ago]

Correction : Low to mid diff

[@Kohaku90]

W fr fr🍺

[@deathbrawlstars6324]

My opinion : Fs: akiyama v. High diff Cote exam: koji v. High Liar game: akiyama high diff Tomodachi game: akiyama high-v. High Nfs: koji extreme Irl from scratch: akiyama v. High-extreme Rl w/ influence: koji v. High Cat and mouse: koji extreme Manipulation: akiyama high diff Deception: akiyama v. High-extreme 1v1: koji no diff Reasoning: akiyama high diff Thinking:koji v. High Cunning: akiyama mid-high Intelligence: koji extreme Intellect:akiyama v.high Outsmarting:akiyama v. High

[@Dow12]

Fs akiyama low diff

[@Saharsh__Raj]

​@@Dow12his opinion*

[@Dow12]

@@Saharsh__Raj does koji has better manipulation..nah akiyama low diffs in manipulation. Does koji have better strategy ...nah ...only contraband feat solos cote . Does koji have better deduction - nah Does koji has better reasoning..nah . I can debate on every point i said . Koji only exists due to offscreen feats ...he is low diff for akiyama

[@Saharsh__Raj]

@@Dow12 ok

[@deathbrawlstars6324]

​@@Dow12manipulation koji has more control over victim but overall akiyama takes it rest all is fair

[@Stephane-rs3br]

I think kyotaka get complexity

[@SSJ1KGoku]

Ik ayo would win he hasn't demonstrated his full capabilities

[@ggabraf]

W but vci to koji and vsi and adaptability to aki

[@warfare_bg4155]

Song?

[@XuraEclipse]

Original - Derniere Danse Remix - Derniere Danse (nicebeatzprod)

[@SOGO_OKITA176]

Self management goes to ayanokoji

[@estafornt]

Fax

[@harrypotter4795]

how the hell did you give anticipation to ayano please explain

[@XuraEclipse]

Ayanokoji during the unanimous vote exam, he anticipated the votes that were going to be distributed based on his classmates perspectives. Ayanokoji anticipates the movement and actions of others around him and potentially counters or prepares for it. People like Ryueen and Horikita His anticipation is why he was at a low profile at the start of Y1. For Akiyama, he anticipates Yokoyas moves in the contraband game and musical chairs. Not going into full detail but I'd think Ayanokoji Takes anticipation. If you don't agree then that's fine.

[@harrypotter4795]

@@XuraEclipse i think anticipating the exact outcome of musical chairs was far more complex

[@Dow12]

That's not even a good feat . The unanimous voting exam was quite straightforward. Nothing great anticipation was even required. Akiyama anticipated his defeat in 4 kingdoms.. that's why he made his plan to counter it .. perfectly. He anticipated Yokoya entire plan in pandemic... That's why he occupied the examination rooms .not only that he anticipated Yokoya will offer money Several others I can name ...like in minority rule he anticipated what will happen at last . Akiyama takes anticipation - low - no diff

[@DRBDurjoy]

people who thinks ayanokoji cant manipulate- equal to trash

[@Scripps-on2nx]

Do you even know what "fallacies" mean

[@half_demon2091]

I have some problem to figure out this words. Can anyone knows full form of those words. I need help Ap= Aq= Api= Awmi= Biq= Cq= Cri= Cfi= Cvci= Dc= Ef= Er= Epi= Efi= Eqm= Eqp= Eqe= Equ= ipi= Fvci= Gpi= Hax= Nvi= Nvl= Nsi= Poi= Pri= Qri= Rci= Sti= Sri= Sq= Tri= Vcl= Vsl= Vmi= Veci= Wml=

[@cakephone7893]

Search it on Qoura bro, even tho not all of them included

[@tobiuchiha77]

AP: Doesn't exist in SCD, might be referring to Attack Potency in WIS AQ: Doesn't exist in SCD (DEISCD) API: DEISCD AWMI: Auditory Working Memory Index BIQ: Battle IQ CQ??; Idk, DEISCD CRI: DEISCD CFI: Cognitive Frequency Index or smth else CVCI: Crystallized Verbal Comprehension Index DC: ??? EF: Emotional Facilitation ER: Emotional Realization EPI: ??? EFI: ??? EQM: Emotional (Quotient) Management EQP: Emotional Perception EQE: Emotional Engagement EQU: Emotional Understanding IPI,GPI,VMI,SRI,STI,NSI,NVL,POI: ??? Where'd you found these short forms WMI: Working Memory Index FVCI: Fluid Verbel Comprehension Index Hax: Its not a short form, Hax is a slang term for "Hacks" which means broken abilities. NVI: Non-Verbal Index PRI: Perceptual Reasoning Index QRI: Quantative Reasoning Index SQ: Social Quotient TRI: Theoretical Reasoning Index VSI: Visual Spatial Index

[@arii_how]

Totally unnecesary edit, we know that Aki negs 🗣

[@felix3703]

HRB

[@nghiasenpaivn1702]

Mid - high ? Low diff

[@nghiasenpaivn1702]

W edit + music btw

[@Morpheus-1098]

Get mid diff. Anticipation and prediction to aki

[@SilentAbyss.]

Bro decided to come speak fax 🗿

[@DarthCaedus-Solo-all-sith]

EQe - Koji W edit

[@Ashito_Kiyokuni]

Can you do baku vs koji full scale

[@arju4035]

Baku can drink Ayano with a sip.☕

[@Incepter.]

Ayanokoji wins in intelligence and physical abilities probably, Baku wins literally everything else

[@arju4035]

@@Incepter. Not Intelligence, it would be Knowledge actually. Intelligence and knowledge are two different things.

[@Incepter.]

@@arju4035 Yeah intelligence is just how fast you can think, adapt and learn certain ideas, (my definition) knowledge is just how much you know. Considering Ayanokoji's memory and processing speed is completely broken, I'd say he wins intelligence over Baku if you have a feat of Baku that surpasses of it and I'll say im wrong

[@arju4035]

@@Incepter. First, The definition you gave about "Intelligence"is not right, that' not the actual definition. Here is the actual definition- Intelligence = Ability to aquire and APPLY your KNOWLEDGE and SKILLS And you gave a definition, it's your self made definition. Sorry but why should I accept your self made definition? Second, you are asking me for feats of Baku. Bro what feats of Ayano you gave me? Just some trash talks like a fodder? Oooh my Dooog, Ayanos processing speed isshh really faaaasshhtt, Ayano's Memury power is geit....blah blah blah. This is the Logic you gave and didn't include any feats, which shows nothing just nonsense. (Though I don' need to hear the feats, I know already) And looking into your own definition you said Intelligence means Thinking Speed, Adaptation, and learning new Ideas.(Though those are completely different things,but still,for ur sake, I will use your own words to show you) Thinking speed:Ayano is clearly a genius and can think really fast, he can think and act quick.Buttt...in "Usogui" Baku is a gambler and the Gamble he plays are literally Death games and many Genius opponents with unpredictable and mind f*cking Cheating methods, so Countering them is Highly Difficult, but Baku - The Usogui( Means - The Lie Eater), he can literally predict their move quite accurately and makes counter moves or Plan; immediately, which shows his information collecting speed, processing and quick decision making speed.Far more better than Ayano. Adaptation: What does this "Adaptation" mean? Changing yourself in a way to go with the situation and survive or win(in simple words).Adapt something means, U can go with the situation and survive with what tools and capabilities you have. Ayano is greatly known for his Adaptation capability.Yes it's true and fits the definition. I also accept that. But, Baku is on another level who literally can go on and survive, even in a deadly situation. There are arcs like "Tower of Karma", and many more(I actually forgot) where he showed his capabilities. Memory power:- Ayano is Good,really Good... but Baku is someone who literally can recall his past Gamble Games he played and everything about that game,the tricks he used and the tricks and methods his opponents used,every word,literally everything. If he watches, you using a trick, only for once, he will never forget that and can also use that trick or method in more creative ways in future. This shows, Baku is someone who can plays with Ayano like a Toy.Though I accept, Ayano has much more Academic knowledge and physical capabilities more than Baku( Thanks to the WR training) But Baku is not a Human, he is total " Beast" or can be said "MONSTER" if you are talking about Mind Power. (I am not here to Argue, but just to correct you, but you went further and strated a debate, giving me some nonsense talks,that's why I replied, otherwise, I don't waste my time arguing nonsense, ur comment proves u are a Ayano fodder. Ayanokoji is really a good character, I enjoy that, but fans like you ruins him.That' all I have to say,now I won' reply again,I wasted enough of my time)

[@felix3703]

Ne TN

[@felix3703]

Ich TH Nr FN mm

[@felix3703]

Ja GM mhm h

[@tucao783]

w

[@scout00744]

Nah

[@arju4035]

There are man like Akiyama, Baku, Yokoya, Johan who literally can take out Ayano.

[@NegotiationsGang]

Ayano recieving more feats and upgrades, just wait for it and eventually other cote characters can solo to, Might sound ridiculous but they're just goated 😮 Goatyama still demolish ayano for now tho

[@NegotiationsGang]

@@H-44-H clam down bro dont summon a demon all my bad bro 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏

[@NegotiationsGang]

@@H-44-H OK I GET IT LEAVE ME ALONE

[@Sigma_56898]

​@@NegotiationsGanghow akiyama win against koji what his feats tell me only his biggest feat

[@NegotiationsGang]

@@Sigma_56898 don't drag me into this , I also support Ayanokoji too

[@A_CatgirI]

Fax

[@felix3703]

Ng FM

[@felix3703]

BR GB HRB

[@fastslow002]

ma man really want me to search all those categories..so i understand some shit💀💀💀💀

[@POKERFACESOCIOPATH]

I disagree with the diff Very high diffs

[@TheOneFromBeyond.]

Not at all. Mid/high diff at best.

[@POKERFACESOCIOPATH]

@@TheOneFromBeyond. nope very high diff buddy for me This is not the old Kouji the current Kouji is pretty much buffed by new volumes shortly but still mid-high diff is an old take High diff or very high diff is the current diff i would like to give

[@TheOneFromBeyond.]

@@POKERFACESOCIOPATH what buff exactly? The current volumes? It’s been mainly focusing on story and love for Koji. There is no buff. If you mean Vinta’s documents then that doesn’t really change anything. Give me 5 of Akiyama’s best outsmarting feats to prove you’ve read Liar Game.

[@POKERFACESOCIOPATH]

@@TheOneFromBeyond. I don't remember them i literally read liar game around 1 yr ago and I don't have good long term memory The only thing I remember is that nightmare of an ending And short buffs i meant are in specific categories like Fsiq, overall intelligence, intel etc rather that the volumes gave rather than a big buff And mid-high is pretty old take for me I have it very high diff now

[@TheOneFromBeyond.]

@@POKERFACESOCIOPATH in that case I suggest you re-read Liar Game. Akiyama’s feats are overlooked and he takes way too many important points for it to be very high diff. It’s high diff at the very best.

[@Its-Joy_]

Ngnl the point disturbution is random af💀 VCI, self regulation, self management, risk calculation, cold reading, strategy efficiency>=, strategy succession, indirect manipulation, analytical, observation, analysis, pattern recognition, existential intel, metacognition, problem solving go to koji Direct manipulation and charisma to aki Manipulation: aki high-very high diff Outsmarting: aki extreme diff Irl situation: aki mid diff Intelligence: koji mid-high diff Overall: aki very high diff

[@cyrkaade970]

w. i'd say it's more like extreme diff

[@geuse4732]

​@@cyrkaade970do you hate liar game that much You said koji>>> then aki>extreme

[@geuse4732]

Stop dowplay aki

[@cyrkaade970]

@@geuse4732 because he is Overrated af and he is Shi. he doesnt even pass Yagami

[@geuse4732]

Even koji pass aki in normal scaling But never pass aki in stop scaling Stop scaling>normal scaling( because i can write a character smarter than koji ten times)

[@iamnotfarid]

Koji>

[@YasmeenShaikh-bd1vf]

Here we go with koji fanboys .

[@deoxy251]

Koji gets mid diffed by akiyama. cry more.

[@DebateEnjoyer]

@@YasmeenShaikh-bd1vf If I am being honest, that's not a fanboy but rather a Koji fanboy pretender. You can clearly those kind of pretenders always say have Koji pfp and name+ short provocative comments + "Even though I am a Koji fan, but blah blah blah". I have been coming across such individuals who are intentionally trying to heat up comments and make Koji overhated.

[@YasmeenShaikh-bd1vf]

@@DebateEnjoyer Fr they have no originality