Alesis Nitro MIDI Mappings for Rock Band 4 Xbox One with Legacy Wired Adapter and Xbox MIDI Adapter

[@austin7125]

Red - 37 (rim 40 or 37) Yellow - 48 Blue - 45 Green - 43 Crash (green) - 49 Ride (blue) - 51 Hi hat - 42 Kick - 36

[@edgycard1]

I'm actually tempted to do this. The bonus is I already own a legacy wireless adapter. I just gotta get a e-Drum set and the xbox MIDI.

[@Truedoogie]

You are definitely one of the lucky ones then!

[@Gmodderable]

This method should work with the wireless adapter using the ghwh controller right? I’ve heard that the only thing that’s not possible is pro drums.

[@Truedoogie]

I believe that’s correct, yes. You aren’t able to select pro drums but it still works for basic drums wirelessly.

[@clc12rock]

Why did you set the rim and snare to different midi notes? Do 37 and 40 both register as snare hits in the game?

[@Truedoogie]

I can’t remember, but probably. The goal is definitely to have the rim or head trigger a snare in the game.

[@apadua2001]

Thanks for posting this.. I have the same alesis kit.. I still notice a bit of latency after calibration. I tried it both ways for audio and video.. both seem a bit off.. anyone else experiencing this?

[@Truedoogie]

There shouldn’t be any input latency. It’s just a midi signal over wires. Are you sure it isn’t audio/video lag from the tv/receiver?

[@apadua2001]

@@Truedoogie Not sure how to verify that.. I have the PS3 connected via HDMI and the audio is connected through an optical cable to the receiver... I saw another video where they recommend calibrating the latency using the buttons on the midi adapter. I will try that next and report back

[@Truedoogie]

@@apadua2001 I would suggest manually calibrating and then playing a song with the sound off. Watch how long it takes for the notes to explode after you hit them as they hit the note bar. If they explode after, I believe you turn the latency time up. And the inverse is true if they explode before. After that, play the song with the sound on and close your eyes. Make sure it’s a very repertories part and play by memory and sound only. See if you miss any notes. You won’t be able to really tell if it’s too early or late but it will tell you if it’s off. Is your tv in game mode?

[@Raisin_Fighter]

Hello I have a Alesis DM7X kit and just got a Xbox 360 Rock Band 3 Midi PRO-Adapter and I already had a Legacy Game Controller Adapter for Xbox One. Do you have any other adapters? I'm trying to get the midi pro adapter to work with it but do you have another adapter on that to get it to work on Xbox One? I'm very confused on setting this up.

[@Truedoogie]

Those two should be it. The module makes midi notes, the midi notes are read by the midi adapter, and the midi adapter talks to the Xbox one using the legacy adapter. There may be a button on the module to enable midi out. Also make sure you are plugged into the midi out of the module to the midi adapter.

[@Raisin_Fighter]

@@Truedoogie Wow thanks for the quick response! I got the midi pro adapter plugged into the XB1 but I can't get it sync'd up with the legacy adapter just very confused by that.

[@Truedoogie]

@@Raisin_Fighter so it should be drum module>midi adapter>legacy adapter>Xbox usb Is that how it’s set up?

[@Raisin_Fighter]

@@Truedoogie Ah I see now I don't have the right legacy adapter unfortunately.. Don't know if I could fork out a paycheck for one of those lol. Thanks for the quick help will probably try rock band 3 on 360 or clone hero to at least get a taste of edums on RB/GH.

[@Truedoogie]

@@Raisin_Fighter it so stupid that they stopped making the Legacy Adapter. Sorry.

[@lasmakeisele9998]

Hi, i want to connect my Alesis to play Rockband on xbox series s, is that possible and what do i need for it?

[@Truedoogie]

I’m not sure if all of the Xbox One hardware works on the Series S, but assuming it does, it’s still going to be a hassle. You need two different adapters: -Xbox 360 MIDI Adapter: kind of hard to find -Xbox Legacy Adapter: extremely rare and expensive Assuming you can get those (and they work with the new Xboxes), you plug your drum’s MIDI out into the Xbox MIDI adapter and then plug the MIDI adapter into the Legacy Adapter since the MIDI adapter was made for the Xbox 360 and the Legacy adapter converts that old signal to the Xbox One language. Then it’s a matter of setting your MIDI output notes to the correct values. You just keep hitting one drum at a time while you change notes on your module and see when the correct drum is triggered on the screen.

[@Trillozepam]

@@Truedoogie so if i wanna do this on a 360 i only need the MIDI adapter? I found it! But can i use it for guitar hero even if the description said it is for rockband3?

[@Truedoogie]

@@Trillozepam oh I see. I actually have no idea. I feel like the MIDI adapter would only be recognized by Rock Band.

[@RallyDriver55]

wait, so the hi hat option in game actually works with the nitro e drum kit?

[@Truedoogie]

Only because Harmonix had the foresight to map open hi hat to blue. So the solution is simple: have an open hi hat on the drum brain trigger blue!

[@CD6OO]

I have the surge Alesis which is basically the same thing but I can’t even get drums to work on rock band and I have the midi adapter for the PlayStation so my question is do I need to be on a certain setting on the module or something hate to sound like I dumass but your help would be greatly appreciated

[@Truedoogie]

Make sure that your drum pads are transmitting the correct midi notes. Every midi note number that your drums transmit equate to a Rock Band signal. So if you have the drum kit hooked up properly, just keep hitting on one drum at a time and change the midi note on the module until the proper drum triggers in the game and then move onto the next one. You also need to consider how your drum module is getting midi data out. If it is using midi out to the PS midi adapter, and the midi adapter is connected to your PlayStation, then you are set.

[@CD6OO]

Yeah I’m obviously doing something wrong, either this midi cable or adapter is busted I can control the rock band menu with the adapter but still can get not one note to respond

[@Truedoogie]

@@CD6OO Have you been able to change the MIDI notes that your module is putting out? Do you know how to change the notes that are sent?

[@CD6OO]

If changing the midi note is what you’re doing in this video yes if not no

[@Truedoogie]

@@CD6OO email me at [e-mail] if you want help troubleshooting. I’m sure it’s something simple.

[@CasonWomack300]

Hey so my ride sometimes registers that yellow is being hit, is this because of the setting where blue is open hi hat? And if not should I change my threshold on the hi hat higher?

[@Truedoogie]

Do you only have one trigger on your ride? Like does the bell and edge count as two different midi notes? I would check that first. If not, I would assume it’s just crosstalk. Unplug your hi-hat and go nuts on the ride to see if you can still accidentally trigger a yellow. If you can’t, it’s the crosstalk. Just plug the hi-hat back in and increase the threshold. I don’t think this is related to blue being open hi-hat since your pads are just sending midi values. Probably just a coincidence.

[@CasonWomack300]

@@Truedoogie I checked that, turns out the threshold was just too low, thanks for getting back so fast!

[@BaxterStyle]

I will be using the Alesis Nitro Max Kit with my Xbox One S to play Rockband 4. Do I need anything else other than the Roll Limitless adapter?

[@Truedoogie]

I'm not too familiar with the Roll Limitless stuff. Looking at the video for the DIY board, it seems that you can emulate the PDP USB adapter using their hardware and software. The midi adapter isn't necessary since their software just reads inputs and converts them. At least that's my understanding of it. So most likely, that would be all you need, but I don't know for sure.

[@BaxterStyle]

@@Truedoogie Thanks for the response! If i understand correctly, it Sounds like i definitely won’t need the overpriced legacy adapter if i’m not using the xbox 360 midi adapter then.

[@phile5437]

Midi out from brain to roll limitless (RL), USB from RL to console. You also need an Xbox controller connected to the RL via USB to spoof the drum connection to the console. You should be good to go after that. You will not need the legacy adapter or the Xbox midi controller.

[@Trillozepam]

Hi i wanna conect my alesis nitro to my 360 guitar heros. Is that possible?

[@Truedoogie]

The only way I have done that is to connect the Alesis to the Guitar Hero 4 drums via the MIDI in port on the GH drum kit. I don’t know if it will work just like Rock Band 4 does but it might.

[@Zhxdow87]

The rock band 3 pro midi adapter works in guitar heros. At least it works on word tour and on warriors of rock. I'll be only as a basic drums and not the pro drums, but it does work 👌

[@REVideoStudio]

Jamie ... Buying my boys an E-Drum Kit for Christmas. My head hurts for trying to research the parts that you need (or don't) and the ones that work with Rock Band 4 (or don't). Do you have a "parts list" for your set up? That would be AMAZING! Thanks and Merry Christmas! ~ Michael

[@Truedoogie]

Hey Michael, So the Xbox is a problem because you need an adapter whose entire job is to take Xbox 360 accessories (in this case, the Xbox 360 MIDI adapter) and translate them to a language that the Xbox One understands. That adapter is extremely rare and expensive. That adapter is used to connect the Xbox 360 MIDI adapter to the Xbox One. Without that dumb expensive connector, the Xbox One can’t even see the MIDI adapter. So you need: -Edrum with MIDI out -MIDI out cable -Xbox 360 MIDI Adapter -Legacy wired adapter -Xbox One From my understanding, the PlayStation does not have this problem. The answer seems to be to get a PlayStation instead of an Xbox and then go get a PlayStation Xbox MIDI adapter. That way you don’t need that stupid legacy adapter. Of course this is inconvenient if you already have an Xbox because getting a PlayStation just for a Rock Band is kind of silly. But it doesn’t have to be a PS5, it can be a PS4. Let me know if that’s clear.

[@REVideoStudio]

@@Truedoogie Thanks Jamie! You're awesome!

[@AleAG_]

Hi! Do you still have the wired adapter? For xbox one

[@Truedoogie]

Yup, I still have it.

[@marisolromero8213]

Just to clarify.. you still need the pdp wired legacy adapter and the midi adapter correct?

[@Truedoogie]

@@marisolromero8213 correct, as stated in the title. It’s super unfortunate that the adapters are so hard to come by.

[@AleAG_]

@@Truedoogie how did you get it? Or where?

[@Truedoogie]

@@AleAG_ I got it as soon as it was released.

[@gelipatgaming9537]

Can I use this to my xbox 360 for the old guitar hero and rock band games?

[@Truedoogie]

If you use your 360, you don't need the legacy adapter which is nice. You will still need the midi adapter. It will work for Rock Band 3 and Guitar Hero 4 I believe.

[@gelipatgaming9537]

@@Truedoogie thank you. Appreciated your response.

[@juanlopez-eg2gx]

newbie question. Can i still play the drums as normal??? 🤓

[@Truedoogie]

Yeah, the midi mapping doesn't affect the module. If you are hooking your module up to the computer and using a computer based drum library, the midi mapping WILL affect that. But at that point, you just make a Rock Band set and a normal drumming set. Unless the midi notes are system wide, which they might be.

[@bbbbbbbbbbbb7]

So if I have a Rock Band 4 Wireless Legacy Adapter, will this work?

[@Truedoogie]

You need the legacy adapter and the midi adapter. The midi adapter is pretty easy to find. The legacy adapter isn’t. So if you have the adapter, you just need a drum kit and midi adapter.

[@bbbbbbbbbbbb7]

@@Truedoogie I have Alesis surge drumset, Rb4 wireless legacy adapter. Just need the midi adapter. Thanks for the info

[@bearxor]

I’m late to the party here but you need the WIRED legacy adapter, not the wireless. The midi controller is wired.

[@SelwynMayers]

Is this possible on the Nintendo wii with rock band 2?

[@Truedoogie]

No. This is exclusively Xbox and PlayStation functionality.

[@johnnymoran4099]

I got alexis nitro dash how do i connect to my xbox one x it dont register or nothing need help

[@Truedoogie]

You need the Xbox 360 midi adapter and the Legacy usb adapter for Xbox one which is rare and expensive.

[@johnnymoran4099]

Damn but my Electric drumset don't have any mdmi not sure if am saying it correct

[@johnnymoran4099]

@Truedoogie it has only the plug the one that you use for the printer and the rest of the connections are just normals plugs

[@johnnymoran4099]

@Truedoogie I also got a interface not sure if that would even work

[@Truedoogie]

You need a MIDI out port. The MIDI out goes to the Xbox 360 MIDI Adapter. That adapter is only compatible with the 360, so you need a Legacy USB adapter to make it work with newer systems like the Xbox One and Series.

[@senoraazteca8231]

Hola. Este método aún funciona???

[@Truedoogie]

Sí. Por lo que yo sé. ¿Algo cambió con el juego o Xbox?

[@senoraazteca8231]

@@Truedoogie actualmente tengo el midi pro adapter de rock Band 3, el Legacy adapter y una alesis surge mesh. Con eso es suficiente para poder jugar en el Xbox series s? O requiero de algún adaptador extra? Tendrás algún número de whats app para que me mandes una foto de como tienes conectado tu Xbox a la batería? Gracias por responder 🤟🏽😀

[@Truedoogie]

@@senoraazteca8231 Eso suena correcto. Deberías tener todas las piezas. También probé esto en una Serie X y funcionó perfectamente. No debería haber ningún problema. Conecta todo y luego cambia tus notas midi como se explica en el vídeo y debería funcionar perfectamente. Además, estoy usando una aplicación de traducción, así que perdona cualquier error.

[@senoraazteca8231]

@@Truedoogie cómo conectas el MPA al Legacy? Se puede inalámbrico?

[@Truedoogie]

@@senoraazteca8231 Nada de eso es inalámbrico. El adaptador midi se conecta al adaptador heredado. El adaptador heredado se conecta a la Xbox.