Alexander Pacteau receives sentence after pleading guilty to murdering student Karen Buckley.

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Herald and Times Group

Herald and Times Group

9 жыл бұрын

Judge Lady Rae delivering a sentence to Alexander Pacteau this morning at the High Court in Glasgow. Recorded by Sky.

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@jacquipeers206
@jacquipeers206 6 жыл бұрын
When the judge said " that's all " and closed the tablet, I was expecting everyone to break into applause!! I was so carried away listening to her. Brilliant!!!
@thecrow7
@thecrow7 4 жыл бұрын
its not a done thing in British courts lol
@brianocampo7981
@brianocampo7981 4 жыл бұрын
@@thecrow7 In fact, you can get done for contempt just for clapping
@ajs41
@ajs41 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianocampo7981 Good, I don't like clapping in court, or any noise. It's unseemly. Silence is the fitting atmosphere for serious court trials.
@ajs41
@ajs41 3 жыл бұрын
@@thecrow7 Noise in courts is wrong in my opinion. It diminishes the seriousness of what is happening. I'm English by the way.
@huneyboss1672
@huneyboss1672 4 жыл бұрын
Wherever her family is , I wish them peace and kindness. 🙏🏽❤️
@johnmckee7640
@johnmckee7640 3 жыл бұрын
Ireland..
@fionarose7831
@fionarose7831 3 жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace Karen Buckley 🙏❤️
@jayleigh4642
@jayleigh4642 2 жыл бұрын
Being born in England, even listening to her accent is totally amazing. Her closing statement was gripping. I do hope we get an insight into more British courts it’s very interesting.
@statinskill
@statinskill Жыл бұрын
And I thought that is just one more of these effeminate British males. But who can tell today in a world with "women with penis".
@AJT86
@AJT86 4 жыл бұрын
He's lucky. He was only 19 when he murdered her. He may still be able to have a life later on. Her family lost her. They'll never be the same.
@TheMrsnikkisixx
@TheMrsnikkisixx 3 жыл бұрын
He was 21.
@ocallaghanrobert430
@ocallaghanrobert430 Жыл бұрын
He wont have any life after ,because he is cursed for life,I'm from mallow near where she is from,I'm sickened by this evil beast may he rot in hell
@terrytownsend5583
@terrytownsend5583 Жыл бұрын
Attention to detail
@alfredhitchcock45
@alfredhitchcock45 7 жыл бұрын
Judge wearing wig using a Macbook. Old meets Modern
@timbyles4124
@timbyles4124 5 жыл бұрын
She's catching up on all the soaps she's missed.
@kaylaoctober
@kaylaoctober 4 жыл бұрын
Mario wow I can’t believe I read all you wrote , it kept me wanting to learn more! Thank you so much, it is very interesting and one more thing I learn today .Every day I tell my kids “pay attention and learn something every day “and they are 34 and 25 years old.thank you !
@xaverlustig3581
@xaverlustig3581 4 жыл бұрын
It's not a modern wig.
@tapsars7911
@tapsars7911 4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly . The judge's wig goes back centuries but the Mac is a recent feature .
@wilsjane
@wilsjane 4 жыл бұрын
+Taps Ars. While what you say is true, 100 years ago, the judges wig would have been made of horsehair, today it is polyester. Likewise the quill and inkwell has updated to a computer and the proceedings were filmed in digital video, rather than a few black and white photographs. The one thing that I did think was wrong was the apple logo not being concealed. LOL. PS, The reason that apple-mac is used by the media and legal system is that files can be "ripped" directly to lithograph plates for publication.
@G_Silent
@G_Silent 2 жыл бұрын
What an incredible judge. Can’t imagine how hard this job must be. I couldn’t do it.
@tfootball8704
@tfootball8704 2 жыл бұрын
what's hard about it?
@clovermx1472
@clovermx1472 2 жыл бұрын
@@tfootball8704 yea it seems like a nice job. U can just say "ur free to go" or give them life. It's a fun little game 💎💎
@tfootball8704
@tfootball8704 2 жыл бұрын
@@clovermx1472 Exactly, the judges don't give a fuck
@md4159
@md4159 Жыл бұрын
Top of the range.
@md4159
@md4159 Жыл бұрын
@@tfootball8704 said like a criminal. Great look.
@NxDoyle
@NxDoyle 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen a few sentences handed down by Scottish courts in the last little while. They really are exemplars of a dispassionate manner, which, in this age of histrionics and tabloid thinking, is to be applauded.
@peterd440
@peterd440 5 жыл бұрын
There is no place for emotion in judgements of this importance. I agree with you.
@ancientnativeofeurope5505
@ancientnativeofeurope5505 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I have seen shocking unprofessionalism from American judges
@Biffo1262
@Biffo1262 4 жыл бұрын
@@ancientnativeofeurope5505 Yes but they have a satisfying effect on the victims relatives and are intended to convey their feelings. Plus, their sentencing more reflects the gravity not the offence. Sometimes emotion is necessary and welcomed by the victims relatives. Murder is an emotional subject for them; put yourself in their shoes.
@Sierraomega1991
@Sierraomega1991 4 жыл бұрын
@@ancientnativeofeurope5505 tbf that's what happens when judges are elected
@robertuk2006
@robertuk2006 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sierraomega1991 The idea of judicial elections are ridiculous
@serdarkilic2973
@serdarkilic2973 7 жыл бұрын
Judge Lady Rae proudly sponsored by Apple
@clarissamcpigeon7857
@clarissamcpigeon7857 6 жыл бұрын
What you see a lot of in the UK is very obvious Apple kit, with the Apple logo obscured by the logo of the organisation using it. There is an industry around stickers to put on top.
@wheezie923
@wheezie923 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@RoyalCaymanian
@RoyalCaymanian 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the judge’s name was Sam Sung. LoL
@jackm3720
@jackm3720 4 жыл бұрын
Young innocent woman died and all you care about is about the brand of computer. Crazy
@nexor7809
@nexor7809 4 жыл бұрын
@@jackm3720 Im actually watching the video to have a good laugh at her suit thing which looks like a teutonic order knight armor, and her weird hair which is clearly fake.
@clarissamcpigeon7857
@clarissamcpigeon7857 6 жыл бұрын
I think one of the worst parts about this case was that it appeared, on the face of it, to be completely motiveless. No motive was ever proven and Pacteau has never come clean on why he did what he did. A postmortem showed absolutely no signs whatsoever of a sexual assault. He appears to have just smashed her head in for no apparent reason and driven around Glasgow with the body in his passenger seat.
@randomdude239
@randomdude239 3 жыл бұрын
Domination killers get off on the act of murdering someone alone. Some of them (Chikatilo, Kemper, Berkhowitz and many more) are known to literally jizz in their pants while killing what they see as their prey. Don’t think of a cold blooded, psychopathic murderer as you would think of a regular individual. They aren’t even human beings as far as human emotions and reactions are involved.
@lisafehily8050
@lisafehily8050 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Judge 👏🏽
@fallbackbee9170
@fallbackbee9170 4 жыл бұрын
@zztop3000 Brilliant judge regardless of the distraction for which you continue to focus on. Why care about the computer and not the justice she is giving?
@mefford67
@mefford67 4 жыл бұрын
zztop3000 *Excellent judge, small minded viewer...* 🤦🏻‍♀️
@PeterStorm1
@PeterStorm1 4 жыл бұрын
@zztop3000 no she didn't, stfu.
@carolchristiansen8844
@carolchristiansen8844 4 жыл бұрын
His actions with the cover up was worth 20 years.
@randomdude239
@randomdude239 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajs41 23 at least.
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
@@ajs41 Try to make informed remarks...or at least watch the video.
@ajs41
@ajs41 Жыл бұрын
@@mortalclown3812 I've already done both of those things.
@andrewmurray4308
@andrewmurray4308 9 ай бұрын
should have been a whole life sentence without the possibility of parole to protect the public.
@gaggymott9159
@gaggymott9159 3 жыл бұрын
The summing-up and sentencing was superb 👍
@Sierraomega1991
@Sierraomega1991 2 жыл бұрын
Bear in mind the 23 years is the minimum that must be served but he could serve alot more but not one day less
@smackedinthejaw
@smackedinthejaw 4 жыл бұрын
It must take a special kind of skill, knowledge and experience of the law to sum up the situation so fully in just over 10 minutes.
@t4404
@t4404 2 жыл бұрын
could learn it in an afternoon imo
@carolchristiansen8844
@carolchristiansen8844 4 жыл бұрын
There you go . After he has served his sentence. He could be kept longer.
@MultiDrew83
@MultiDrew83 2 жыл бұрын
Hope this horrible creep is getting a hard time in the jail!!
@GlobalMapperGuy
@GlobalMapperGuy 23 күн бұрын
Judge Lord Arthurson Should Be Telling Alexander Pacteau What He Done To Karen Buckley
@slapshotjack9806
@slapshotjack9806 3 жыл бұрын
Who got this randomly recommended to them?
@ErikS-
@ErikS- 5 жыл бұрын
Considering the judges clothes, it would be fitting that she not use an Apple MacBook but a feather and ink.
@mefford67
@mefford67 4 жыл бұрын
Erik S 😂😂😂
@Sierraomega1991
@Sierraomega1991 4 жыл бұрын
Scottish court dress is very similar to English court dress, but there are notable differences. For example, Scottish advocates wear tail coats under their gowns, and wear white bow ties instead of bands. QCs and judges wear long scarf-like ties (known as falls) instead of bands. Scottish judicial robes are very different from English ones. Senators of the College of Justice are Scotland's senior judges; they sit in both the Court of Session (Scotland's top civil court) and the High Court of Justiciary(Scotland's top criminal court). Judicial robes in the Court of Session are dark red, faced with red crosses (a stylised representation of what were once ribbons used to fasten the gown).[10] Judicial robes in the High Court of Justiciary are predominantly white and red, faced with red crosses over the white. The white and red robe of the Lord Justice Clerk is differentiated by many small perforations in the white satin, through which the red cloth shows giving an ermine-like impression. The Lord Justice General wears a red robe and hood (without crosses) edged in ermine (black-spotted white fur). Sheriffs (who preside over Sheriff Courts) wear the black gowns which they formerly used in practice (silk gowns for QCs; stuff gowns for advocates and solicitor-advocates), with falls in place of the bow-tie.
@76Gazz
@76Gazz 6 жыл бұрын
Jailed for a minimum of 23 years! In a similar case in the US. They received a minimum of 99 years. Are we making a mockery of ourselves in this country?
@markacuna2828
@markacuna2828 4 жыл бұрын
Totally the system in this country is a joke
@markacuna2828
@markacuna2828 4 жыл бұрын
Not this country I meant United States
@tootyfruity69
@tootyfruity69 4 жыл бұрын
@Will Fryer 2 then you will be happy for him to live next door to your family after his 'rehabilitation'? he isn't a thief, wife abuser, alcoholic - hes a cold blooded murderer. Do you honestly think someone who has battered a young girl to death then tried to dissolve her body in a barrel with chemicals can be rehabilitated?? I think a lot of young people have been mislead about prisons. They ARE there to punish the offender and keep the law abiding community safe, not try and turn deceptive, manipulative psychopaths (like AP) into model citizens.
@kaismith9878
@kaismith9878 4 жыл бұрын
Will Fryer 2 cold blooded murder of the first degree shouldn’t ever be out on the street.
@thomassmith2227
@thomassmith2227 4 жыл бұрын
@@tootyfruity69 It is you who has the prison system wrong! Unless the convicted person has been given a whole life tariff, then the prison system is legally obliged to attempt rehabilitation. It is then up to the parole board to decide if they are still dangerous.
@neilmcgilligan2695
@neilmcgilligan2695 25 күн бұрын
If the whole of Scotland signed a petition to keep him in he will not get out in 23 yrs
@bawhatever5260
@bawhatever5260 4 жыл бұрын
I am not a Fool and you will receive the consequences! Judge or not
@grumpybastard9151
@grumpybastard9151 3 жыл бұрын
The wig represents the Crown! It is the Crown rendering judgement; Not an individual.
@kevinmunday5782
@kevinmunday5782 3 жыл бұрын
23 years?? In America it would be way longer. This Country is way too soft 😠😠
@davidlynch9049
@davidlynch9049 3 жыл бұрын
Well, America gives life sentences for Marijuana possession, so you are hardly the beacon for fair jail sentences.
@boazreid6158
@boazreid6158 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidlynch9049 Thank You!
@weestephfromscotalnd1645
@weestephfromscotalnd1645 5 жыл бұрын
Lady are was to ruthless for the smaller courts . Glad to see she's doing high court trials . It suits her better
@arnoldwhatson2275
@arnoldwhatson2275 7 жыл бұрын
Never seen an actual British trial before. Didn't think other western countries besides the US allowed trials be recorded like this. Interesting to see.
@FB-mw5gv
@FB-mw5gv 7 жыл бұрын
There is footage of one British trial, documented by channel 4. The doc is called "murder trial" it's on KZbin. The case is of a man named Nat Fraser suspected of the murder of his with Arlene Fraser. I believe it's the only time an actual trial has been video recorded. They show the accused throughout the film. It's also a Scottish court.
@nutyyyy
@nutyyyy 4 жыл бұрын
Scottish and English legal systems are different. This is in Scotland and cameras are allowed inside the court though it's still fairly rare. Scotland has always had it's own legal code from before the union of 1707.
@RoyalCaymanian
@RoyalCaymanian 4 жыл бұрын
Lewis Carlin Good lad! Sadly, a lot of people don’t know this. Also have their own currency.
@pnklady3788
@pnklady3788 4 жыл бұрын
It's the sentencing hearing. The trial and verdict would have already taken place, although in this case he pleaded guilty so there was no need for a trial.
@headbobgunpants4858
@headbobgunpants4858 3 жыл бұрын
any sentence would be sweet relief after such a boring monologue.
@t3mpomusic
@t3mpomusic 3 жыл бұрын
A life sentence should mean life not you have a chance of getting out after 23 years
@andrewtaylor5695
@andrewtaylor5695 2 жыл бұрын
The sentence *is* life; the part of it spent in prison is a minimum of 23 years, after which the conditions of the sentence change. The sentence lasts until they die, even if the incarceration component of it doesn't. Sentences aren't just about the jail time.
@RenaissanceEarCandy
@RenaissanceEarCandy 5 жыл бұрын
Is cosing a laptop the equivalent of banging the gavel now?
@blackfalcon1324
@blackfalcon1324 5 жыл бұрын
LOL. They dont really use gavels in the UK but that still is funny.
@callum4387
@callum4387 4 жыл бұрын
Never used gavels in UK Courts.
@trishannbell5508
@trishannbell5508 Жыл бұрын
Their so lenient in the UK
@rhook88
@rhook88 2 жыл бұрын
23 years!!! What a fucking joke. Amazes me that she talks at the end like he has a discount card. The justice system in this country is a fucking joke
@sniper555100
@sniper555100 2 жыл бұрын
He has to be given life in prison (maximum 25 years) and then she said it would be backdated 2 years because he was first taken into custody 2 years ago, so therefore 23 years. I think this judge would of given him 50 years if she could, but the ruling doesn’t work like that
@manichairdo9265
@manichairdo9265 2 жыл бұрын
@@sniper555100 At least he disclosed the whereabouts of the body. I want 50 years for all murderers too.
@guydecervens
@guydecervens 9 жыл бұрын
Did it come out why she went off with him ?
@clarissamcpigeon7857
@clarissamcpigeon7857 8 жыл бұрын
+guydecervens Nope. They never established that and nor was any real motive ever determined. The worst thing about this case was that it seemed to be a totally random attack.
@pnklady3788
@pnklady3788 4 жыл бұрын
@Fake slayers she got into his car, not the other way around. They met outside the pub and are seen on CCTV walking along the street together in the direction of his car which was parked off the main road in Kelvin Way. He murdered her very soon after then took her body back to his flat.
@eml_x4349
@eml_x4349 7 жыл бұрын
23 years? That's not life imprisonment, the moors murderers went away for nearly 50. Same crime nothing has changed, as far as I'm concerned it's the family who serve a life imprisonment not the killer
@clarissamcpigeon7857
@clarissamcpigeon7857 7 жыл бұрын
Ian Brady's original tariff was actually 30 years in prison and was never actually ordered at the outset to spend his entire life locked up, although Myra Hindley was later upgraded to a whole life sentence in 1994 by then-Home Secretary Michael Howard. The Home Secretary lost that power in 2003 or 2004 when it was ruled only judges could handle sentencing, not the government. In reality, Brady only spent 18 years in prison before being moved to Ashworth (a secure hospital - not a prison) in 1985 and spent the rest of his life there. I think he would also have been later condemned to a whole life sentence as well, but if not, he would have been parole eligible in 1996 or so.
@darshandesai2304
@darshandesai2304 6 жыл бұрын
He pleaded Guilty so he gets a more lenient sentence if he had pleaded not guilty and be found guilty in a trial by jury he would have got Life with parolee after 30 years despite what the judge says about a discount of 2 years. The discount is more realistically 7 years which is fair, but perhaps not reasonable.
@blackfalcon1324
@blackfalcon1324 6 жыл бұрын
It is life. 23 years is how long they have to serve before being eligible for release however they may be denied release indefinitely and if released are on parole for life and may be returned at any time.
@geezerp1982
@geezerp1982 6 жыл бұрын
had bradly and hindley had be caught just less then a year ie 1965, they would of been indicted on capital murder !
@Swansea-hu5ok
@Swansea-hu5ok 3 жыл бұрын
Eligible for release, does not equal a release date. He could very well end up doing 50.
@PointyTailofSatan
@PointyTailofSatan 7 жыл бұрын
I really like the wig tradition. It provides a sense of continuity to what is basically the best legal system that has existed in history.
@keithmuir5077
@keithmuir5077 7 жыл бұрын
Even Scottish crooks are impressed by it
@johnwaddell1009
@johnwaddell1009 6 жыл бұрын
Keith Muir aa
@NxDoyle
@NxDoyle 5 жыл бұрын
You started out so well. Sadly, "the best legal system _that has existed_ in history" was your undoing. So clumsy it makes me laugh to read it aloud. How about, "the best legal system in history"?
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
You're a monarchists, I presume?
@metallitech
@metallitech 2 ай бұрын
Should put tape over the Apple sign to avoid free advertising.
@jamesdrennan4586
@jamesdrennan4586 Жыл бұрын
Judge started her career as defence lawyer with Ross harper & Murphy
@bengibson3298
@bengibson3298 3 жыл бұрын
Judges' Outfits Are Medieval Times, Yet They Use A MacBook From Modern Times
@buttnutt
@buttnutt 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you do that?
@davidlynch9049
@davidlynch9049 3 жыл бұрын
@@buttnutt Google it.
@joey22306
@joey22306 4 жыл бұрын
Instead of beating around the bush, just say 23 years. Geez. Why do these judges have to be so extra dramatic when it is in fact b. S.
@callum4387
@callum4387 4 жыл бұрын
John M. Because it is important for transparent justice, that all judges explain the reasons for their judgements.
@geoffpoole483
@geoffpoole483 3 жыл бұрын
@@callum4387 And also in case of appeal.
@robertuk2006
@robertuk2006 3 жыл бұрын
You clearly know nothing about the legal system!
@geezerp1982
@geezerp1982 7 жыл бұрын
in england on a murder indictment, the prisoner is asked why the sentence according to the law shoundnt be passed upone him
@lorddaver1935
@lorddaver1935 6 жыл бұрын
+geezerp1982 In Scotland also. But the prisoner in this case pleaded guilty to the charge of willful murder, so there was no trial, no jury verdict, and no grounds to claim that the sentence imposed was unreasonable. If you plead guilty to willful murder (as opposed, let's say, to manslaughter) you are effectively saying you will accept the sentence of the court, mandatory life imprisonment. If you hope to avoid a prison sentence or to be able to argue about parole terms, you should plead not guilty and subject yourself to a jury trial. If, at the end of the trial, the jury finds you guilty, then you would have an opportunity to argue as to why the Court should not impose the maximum sentence - "I didn't mean to stab the victim 17 times...I just got carried away. I was upset because I'd just lost on the horses..."
@luckytyler2860
@luckytyler2860 3 жыл бұрын
Just watched the sentence of Aaron campbell 🤮 it should just be a LIFE FOR A LIFE!! Give the sicko a jag!
@joshuaknight311
@joshuaknight311 3 жыл бұрын
Do anybody know if Australia and uk judges can overturn the jury decision
@mattcross5422
@mattcross5422 3 жыл бұрын
UK judges can not. An appeal court can overturn a guilty verdict
@joshuaknight311
@joshuaknight311 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattcross5422 what about australia
@teresaharvey716
@teresaharvey716 4 жыл бұрын
Show the world his face. Don't try and hide a monster.
@pnklady3788
@pnklady3788 4 жыл бұрын
His face has been seen many times. His mug shot, as well as his police interviews before he was charged are easy to find and were all over the news at the time.
@robertuk2006
@robertuk2006 3 жыл бұрын
His face in court wouldn't be broadcasted. It wouldn't be allowed. The only part that gets broadcasted in Scotland is only the judge giving the sentence.
@MrRobertacusYouTube
@MrRobertacusYouTube 3 жыл бұрын
Why has she got a bloody MAC!!??
@johnnybowe
@johnnybowe 3 жыл бұрын
23 years is very soft. 50 years is appropriate.
@ivancarlson953
@ivancarlson953 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the sentence would change if she were using a PC instead of a Mac.
@slapshotjack9806
@slapshotjack9806 3 жыл бұрын
To something smaller
@marylagasse8108
@marylagasse8108 4 жыл бұрын
Victim gets death for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, the victim's family gets life without any good reason to why their loved one is dead, and the murder gets 23 years, there is so much wrong with this sentence.
@robertuk2006
@robertuk2006 3 жыл бұрын
He may never be released. It is up to the parole board. 23 years is his minimum sentence. I strongly doubt he will get parole when he first goes before the board after 23 years.
@VictorGonzalez-pb1lk
@VictorGonzalez-pb1lk 2 жыл бұрын
Mary were are you from justice systems aren't perfect but she gave a good sentence
@andys2856
@andys2856 2 жыл бұрын
After 23 years his life will be as good as over.
@stephenmcgettigan9512
@stephenmcgettigan9512 5 жыл бұрын
He's in my local jail was in the cell across from me he's a big scary looking guy fucking shocking what he done
@davidlynch9049
@davidlynch9049 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. And you did what, partner? Hilarious.
@lisafehily8050
@lisafehily8050 5 жыл бұрын
Poor girl is always in my prays 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@ritaranee4787
@ritaranee4787 4 жыл бұрын
prayers
@robertuk2006
@robertuk2006 3 жыл бұрын
Prayers get you nowhere! No one is there to listen sadly! That's life.
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
@@ritaranee4787 Please try to exert your smallness in other ways.
@ritaranee4787
@ritaranee4787 Жыл бұрын
@@mortalclown3812 toh
@Howiehamster
@Howiehamster 4 жыл бұрын
BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY
@RoyalCaymanian
@RoyalCaymanian 4 жыл бұрын
Howie hamster howard Howard It never went anywhere.
@robertuk2006
@robertuk2006 3 жыл бұрын
NO! The death penalty is wrong! It will not be brought back in the UK!
@Swansea-hu5ok
@Swansea-hu5ok 3 жыл бұрын
Nah it doesn’t work pal ! Eventually innocent people will be executed, it happens everywhere where the death penalty exists. Also it brings no comfort to victims families, the only thing that can do that, believe it or not is forgiveness , as hard as that may sound.
@jacquipeers206
@jacquipeers206 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't realïse cameras were allowed in British courts of justice.
@nutyyyy
@nutyyyy 4 жыл бұрын
In Scottish courts they are. Scotland has a different legal system from England and Wales.
@robertuk2006
@robertuk2006 3 жыл бұрын
@@nutyyyy Not entirely. The UK supreme court still has the final say in civil cases and power disputes between the UK and devolved governments. Not the Scottish judiciary. Although, interestingly, the two most senior judges of the UK supreme court are both Scottish.
@mikemb123
@mikemb123 4 жыл бұрын
A life sentence in England means you serve 20 years.
@jamesguitar7384
@jamesguitar7384 3 жыл бұрын
This is not England
@davidlynch9049
@davidlynch9049 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesguitar7384 Same thing. William Wallace is dead. Move on.
@jamesguitar7384
@jamesguitar7384 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidlynch9049 Don't they have schools where you come from ?
@jamesguitar7384
@jamesguitar7384 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidlynch9049 This is a Scottish criminal being sentenced in a Scottish court for a Scottish crime by a Scottish judge under Scottish law .Other than that you're absolutely right .
@CymruEmergencyResponder
@CymruEmergencyResponder 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidlynch9049 Scotland and England sre not the same in law.
@soulbrother61
@soulbrother61 Жыл бұрын
23 years ffs you get more for benefit fraud, .... joke
@Hellwig64275
@Hellwig64275 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear her say 'how now brown cow'.
@Pitcairn2
@Pitcairn2 3 жыл бұрын
In a Scottish Accent.
@bawhatever5260
@bawhatever5260 4 жыл бұрын
Don't try and Fool me!!
@schlossinger
@schlossinger 3 жыл бұрын
This fool got sentenced in 1832. Is he out now?
@Boohpoop
@Boohpoop 6 жыл бұрын
Wow she looks just like the queen an a poker playing card!
@srehtaef1824
@srehtaef1824 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@user-jz8gl6pt2k
@user-jz8gl6pt2k 6 ай бұрын
Judge rae only gave a women 8yr for helping murder n chop a women up youd this this case would have got longer & this case 23yrs where do they come up with the sentances id say chopping someone up is a horrendous crime
@thecultofjohnnydelr.soulsw7010
@thecultofjohnnydelr.soulsw7010 3 жыл бұрын
How is anyone allowed to film?
@BGF_276HUNTERSPO8NTSF
@BGF_276HUNTERSPO8NTSF 8 жыл бұрын
I thought the uk didn't allow cameras in court this is great why isint this always the case?
@SEAWEEDER1
@SEAWEEDER1 8 жыл бұрын
+VEGASGIRL In scotland any news company can record in a court, they don't because of costs.
@BGF_276HUNTERSPO8NTSF
@BGF_276HUNTERSPO8NTSF 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, sad love watching trials from abroad.Im in las vegas Nevada and its almost if not, an everyday occurance.
@Bucketheadhead
@Bucketheadhead 7 жыл бұрын
The UK is not a single legal jurisdiction. Scotland has its own.
@BGF_276HUNTERSPO8NTSF
@BGF_276HUNTERSPO8NTSF 7 жыл бұрын
ok thanks for reply.
@geezerp1982
@geezerp1982 7 жыл бұрын
uk is not made up of a single state you bellend
@terencehennegan1439
@terencehennegan1439 4 жыл бұрын
My goodness, 23 years !...they should have thrown the key away, that fiend will be chuckling to himself in shock at the leniency of that pathetic sentence. How did they come up with 23 years for such a heinous crime. They should have sent him to ( Black Dolphin ) in Russian that would have been a more suitable sentence, he’d have hung himself within the 1st year.
@martynnewby6298
@martynnewby6298 2 жыл бұрын
How did they come up with 23 years for such a heinous crime? Watch it again with your hearing aid turned up
@tripleooo9639
@tripleooo9639 8 жыл бұрын
ok, me lady , ha,ha,ha .
@kerriewilson5185
@kerriewilson5185 7 жыл бұрын
this isn't the sheriff court it's the high court
@geezerp1982
@geezerp1982 7 жыл бұрын
in the rest of the UK the sheriff was a law enforcment man before the police were founded
@sweetmelody9985
@sweetmelody9985 3 жыл бұрын
Yes life in prison
@bawhatever5260
@bawhatever5260 4 жыл бұрын
Psychiatric reports!
@mariovo5
@mariovo5 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like we need this judge in the states🥇🏆🏛👩‍⚖️👩🏼‍⚖️ Killings is a daily thing over here and I thinking to move to another country. it's just not safe here anymore.
@gwynluv5447
@gwynluv5447 2 жыл бұрын
So you think 23 years for murder is justified? In the US punishments for murder are much stiffer than that so I'm not sure what your point is.
@mariovo5
@mariovo5 2 жыл бұрын
@@gwynluv5447 LOL an old comment I wrote 10 months ago. Thanks for the reply. 23 years is not enough for murder. Although people should be able to file for parol regardless if they have a life sentence. I explain better in some of my videos. I guess I'll here back from you in 10 months 😔
@gwynluv5447
@gwynluv5447 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariovo5 My apologies. I didn't know your comments had an expiration date. Perhaps when you feel they are no longer worthy of a response you should come and delete them. As for a cold blooded murderer having the ability to ask for parole when they think they are rehabilitated, that's absurd. Choices have consequences and if you murder someone you shouldn't even be alive still to be rehabilitated and/or ask for parole. Doesn't matter how much you think you've changed. If you take a life, especially in such a premeditated, heinous way, you've lost all rights to have any part in deciding your future. There's no hope for someone like that to be a member of society any longer and they'd be lucky not to be given the death sentence.
@ytubesucksazznow
@ytubesucksazznow 6 жыл бұрын
wow that robe looks like a kids school pageant getup, might wanna upgrade just a bit.
@catadvocateNy
@catadvocateNy 6 жыл бұрын
APCWORLDSUXAZ LMAOOOOO 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
@alexanderheard3157
@alexanderheard3157 5 жыл бұрын
This is Scottish law tradition to make it seem justice is not personal. It does not need a change as it does not effect their job in any circumstance
@daisycatdaisycat8873
@daisycatdaisycat8873 4 жыл бұрын
APCWORLDSUXAZ no weirder that us garb for judges
@petergough2534
@petergough2534 2 жыл бұрын
More life tariffs should be set. This is totally ridiculous yes he will probably serve 23yrs but will be released at a early age still.
@johnb6723
@johnb6723 Жыл бұрын
Only if he behaves himself properly. If he doesn't, he will have to serve longer.
@wangchung_8541
@wangchung_8541 2 жыл бұрын
Why’s she dressed like a Swiss Army knife?
@HunsAreGoingBust
@HunsAreGoingBust 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@anitastone168
@anitastone168 2 жыл бұрын
Have watched clips from Judges in USA. Often it ends up in a barage of verbal abuse, swearing and wishing every possible injury to the accused. A circus, in fact. Found this clip to see how we deal with it. Dignified is the difference
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
There are quite a lot of articulate, sentient American judges - local, federal, et al - with knowledge and a history of prudent rulings. It's too bad that you believe they don't exist.
@claudiasrandomvideos7097
@claudiasrandomvideos7097 Жыл бұрын
@@mortalclown3812 "often"
@terrytownsend5583
@terrytownsend5583 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Well the yanks are trashy and crash…
@TaharkahX
@TaharkahX 4 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me, do the crosses on the uniform mean they don't have separation of church and state?
@Littlebit31
@Littlebit31 4 жыл бұрын
Taharkah X those look like pluses ➕ vs ✝️
@lewistaylor2858
@lewistaylor2858 3 жыл бұрын
we don't have separation of church and state but the judiciary is independent...
@Pitcairn2
@Pitcairn2 3 жыл бұрын
In the old days before say 1800, Scottish Judges robes were laced with silk red ribbons... as this is all very fiddly the robes were modernised with sewn red crosses, which represent the now defunct ribbons.
@sandeephansdak314
@sandeephansdak314 3 жыл бұрын
...and!....
@evilmickey
@evilmickey 6 жыл бұрын
So he'll be out in much less then 20 years? For that they should never let you out. What if family killed him in revenge and spent their life in prison when he came out? Its unfair. Would she have lived much more then the 15 or so years he loses life? Uk laws and punishment are completely disproportionate. Im not comfortable with those people walking around. Somebody like that doesn't deserve to a fresh start. Nobody's in favor of that.
@davidhay125
@davidhay125 5 жыл бұрын
No, the minimum length of his sentence is at least 23 years. But he would only be released after 23 years if the Parole Board we’re satisfied if he is no longer a risk to the public. These sentencing comments are relevant material for the Parole Board to take into account.
@robertuk2006
@robertuk2006 3 жыл бұрын
You obviously have no idea of British sentencing laws!
@evilmickey
@evilmickey 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertuk2006 Care to elaborate or just going to throw that out and leave it there? 😂
@robertuk2006
@robertuk2006 3 жыл бұрын
@@evilmickey David Hay who commented before me explains it pretty clearly.
@evilmickey
@evilmickey 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertuk2006 He murdered a total stranger. People like that don't "Get better". They will always be too much of a risk, too much of a danger. Also I may add that I'm somewhat of an expert in this field of psychology (Not to toot my own horn, its a psudo science of course.) And I know a thing or two about the UK justice system having spent some time in it and all.
@michaelmcgrattan6091
@michaelmcgrattan6091 4 жыл бұрын
Will this romanian be deported from Britain and Ireland after his prison sentence?
@corydorastube
@corydorastube 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but his father is French and his mother is a Scot. I discovered that with a simple Google search. Perhaps Google is broke on your device or you just cannot be botherd looking shit up before you post?
@mikemanassas5969
@mikemanassas5969 4 жыл бұрын
She should have been in the movie braveheart...
@nicholadstoap6944
@nicholadstoap6944 2 жыл бұрын
If that was in the states he would have got life with out anny chance of realise
@michael-lt2lf
@michael-lt2lf 4 жыл бұрын
Who is the accused? Why is his face hidden? Obviously, he must be innocent or they'ed have show him. More state show trial terrorism eh readers?
@geoffpoole483
@geoffpoole483 3 жыл бұрын
He pleaded guilty.
@robertuk2006
@robertuk2006 3 жыл бұрын
They don't tend to film the accused at all in Scottish Courts. In fact, video recording in Scottish courts are rare and are only a recent thing. When they are recorded they tend to show only the Judge, with the judge giving the person their sentence. The convicted persons reaction/statements doesn't get video recorded. Nor does almost any other aspect of the trial. Totally unlike most American courts. In England and Wales, in the Family division of the High Court, in many cases, the whole proceedings and judgements are closed to the media entirely and they can't report on it. Even people directly affected by a case can be prosecuted for speaking publicly about it. This only applies to some cases, not all. The only court in the UK that records almost everything that goes on, on almost every case, is the UK Supreme Court. The person appealing a sentence/conviction does not get to speak to the Justices in the supreme court. Almost all communication is done via defence QCS and prosecutors. The court of appeal in England and Wales also video records, but not to the frequency of the Supreme Court.
@Magical_Toaster
@Magical_Toaster 4 жыл бұрын
is this Scottish court or something?
@derekmunro2298
@derekmunro2298 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't you bother to read the info under the video
@pnklady3788
@pnklady3788 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. It happened in Glasgow.
@markbrooks2222
@markbrooks2222 Жыл бұрын
yes the same system the whole world basically followed idiot
@dulajohnstone5704
@dulajohnstone5704 3 жыл бұрын
Beware the judge with a wig..
@exos2327
@exos2327 4 жыл бұрын
Is that a weave or a toupee?
@bulldogbruce2683
@bulldogbruce2683 4 жыл бұрын
A ferret
@peterrandall9523
@peterrandall9523 3 жыл бұрын
Made from goat hair apparently.
@asylumbuilder2881
@asylumbuilder2881 3 жыл бұрын
Is this real or acting?
@mag-nm7tw
@mag-nm7tw 3 жыл бұрын
OK what's up with the wigs?
@nelliesfarm8473
@nelliesfarm8473 3 жыл бұрын
What's up with the ridiculous wig ?
@jasbindersingh2441
@jasbindersingh2441 3 жыл бұрын
Its tradition ..and it looks really cool
@robinmcewen3286
@robinmcewen3286 3 жыл бұрын
What a despicable act. Not representative of public safety in Glasgow. One can only hope the family of this young lady got some comfort in the sentence and words of Lady Rae. Her disgust and contempt for the accused is palpable. For anyone tuning in from abroad, 23 years minimum is severe in a British court. In America it would probably have been 123 years. But in America, judges are chosen by the people they serve. Here, they are political appointments. And that means politics are involved in sentencing.
@brandonriddett9783
@brandonriddett9783 2 жыл бұрын
Judges are pricks! Hate them with a passion! But defendant deserved to be sentenced
@carolchristiansen8844
@carolchristiansen8844 4 жыл бұрын
How does he get so little time. Wasn’t that girls life worth more?
@nutyyyy
@nutyyyy 4 жыл бұрын
Because that is the minimum sentence he can possible serve before being considered for release. He is highly unlikely to be deemed fit for release.
@pauirving1847
@pauirving1847 3 жыл бұрын
BIG UP YOURELF JUDGE
@Biffo1262
@Biffo1262 4 жыл бұрын
If it were the USA it would have been 99 years to life with no parole. We are far too soft on violent criminals in the UK. Life should mean LIFE! The man is a prime example of human depravity and should have been treated accordingly.
@pnklady3788
@pnklady3788 4 жыл бұрын
23 years is the punishment part of the sentence. He will serve that before he can apply for parole. If the parole board see any risk to the public, he will not be released and can be held if deemed necessary for the rest of his life. If he is released at any stage, he is on life license and is monitored for the rest of his life by probation services and returned to prison if deemed necessary or if he breaches the terms of his release.
@SamEsss
@SamEsss 4 жыл бұрын
I find it so hard to take these court proceedings seriously when the judges wear those ridiculous wigs.
@daisycatdaisycat8873
@daisycatdaisycat8873 4 жыл бұрын
Sam Es I like the symbolism and custom but I didn’t like it at first ... but now I appreciate its symbolism
@justsomedude1488
@justsomedude1488 4 жыл бұрын
If you are standing in that dock looking down the barrels of life, them wigs would be menacing.. crown court has a very serious mood when you walk in..
@robertuk2006
@robertuk2006 3 жыл бұрын
This is centuries of tradition in Scotland and the rest of the UK. You shouldn't mock it!
@johnb6723
@johnb6723 Жыл бұрын
It's a standard thing in a court of law.
@perkinss9706
@perkinss9706 3 жыл бұрын
Why on earth is she dressed like that?? 🤔
@markbrooks2222
@markbrooks2222 Жыл бұрын
its with history as to claim impartial and without predujice...the scots judicial system the whole world has copied mr ignorant
@walker5365
@walker5365 7 жыл бұрын
What did he get in the end? The verdict was as clear as mud!
@TheMrsnikkisixx
@TheMrsnikkisixx 7 жыл бұрын
He pleaded guilty so there was no 'verdict' or trial. He got minimum sentence of 23 years but it would be unlikely in that time that he would be granted parole. He has no guarantee of ever being released.
@sce2aux464
@sce2aux464 6 жыл бұрын
Life with at least 23 years served.
@johnb6723
@johnb6723 Жыл бұрын
Life imprisonment with a minimum requirement to serve 23 years to be eligible for parole.
@michaeld4192
@michaeld4192 4 жыл бұрын
Apple laptop with a wig🤭🤭
@danramsay5844
@danramsay5844 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know why these judges wear those lame stupid ugly wigs ? What's the origin of that anyway ?
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 2 ай бұрын
The inability to do even a modicum of research is... almost pitiable.
@kobyk1534
@kobyk1534 3 жыл бұрын
Dang. 23 years? Here in America they’ll sentence you to 376.5 years in prison without the possibility of parole.
@ajs41
@ajs41 3 жыл бұрын
In Norway you potentially get released after 10 years if you murder 77 people. See Anders Breivik.
@davidlynch9049
@davidlynch9049 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajs41 No one understands the ridiculous Norwegian prison system. Breivik basically lives in an apartment with all the comforts. You cannot rehabilitate him. Shocking that they would even try. And most of his victims were teenagers.
@HunsAreGoingBust
@HunsAreGoingBust 2 жыл бұрын
In Scotland we have a mandatory life sentence for murder. (Detention without limit of time). The 23 years is the "punishment part". A convicted man sued the Scottish Courts that an unlimited imprisonment was a "cruel and unusual punishment", breaking international law. As a result, convictions are now accompanied by a minimum term. This term is not the sentence, merely a date at which parole can be applied for. The likliehood is that the murderer will never be released.
@pauirving1847
@pauirving1847 3 жыл бұрын
Throw do book and di cover at him
@deborahharrop5330
@deborahharrop5330 2 жыл бұрын
Life for a life no question about it!
@nobodyspecial1080
@nobodyspecial1080 4 жыл бұрын
Thats one badass wig Lol
@zaighamsaeed3383
@zaighamsaeed3383 2 жыл бұрын
Wow very grap
@johnmonk9297
@johnmonk9297 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I believe they should bring back the death penalty. Just the way it used to be 18 days to make your peace with God and so long world. Society was a whole lot safer back in those days.
@geoffpoole483
@geoffpoole483 3 жыл бұрын
Problems can arise when innocent people are executed. the only developed nation to retain the death penalty is the USA, whose criminal justice system is one almighty fuck-up.
@pumpinthecat5629
@pumpinthecat5629 2 жыл бұрын
Not really someone can only be put on death row when there is a lot of evidence.
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
You're incorrect and it's not a deterrent.
@JAPARICAN50-50
@JAPARICAN50-50 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the Spanish acquisition was one and done
@TheEbukentiy
@TheEbukentiy 4 жыл бұрын
Hm... The Inquisition were not only in Spain.
@Pitcairn2
@Pitcairn2 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Spanish acquisition once, her name was Maria.
@JAPARICAN50-50
@JAPARICAN50-50 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pitcairn2 I had one as well for 4 years her name was isaura
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