Lecture 4: The Exodus and Crossing the Sea Myth or Reality

[@501Mobius]

I came to look at the Exodus story to see if it matched real geography. I didn't have any predisposition either way. I found that the story did match actual locations if the scripture is read logically. (Though some scripture may not have been preserved perfectly.)

[@WalterRMattfeld]

In reply to 501 Mobius' claim that he found the Exodus account to have matched real geography, that has NOT been my finding. My findings are somewhat MIXED, in some cases there appears to be a real geography in place based on Arab preservation of biblical site names, and this finding aligns somewhat with 501 Mobius' comment. HOWEVER, THERE ARE NUMEROUS CASES WHERE THE BIBLICAL GEOGRAPHY DOES NOT MATCH THE ARABIC PRESERVATION OF ANCIENT BIBLICAL NAMES AND SCENARIOS. I began this research in the 1970s, and still actively (13 June 2023) pursue the identification of Arabic site names with the topography, landforms and camping sites of the Exodus, as well as sites conquered by Moses in Moab and sites conquered by Joshua in Canaan. So, SOME sites appear to be correctly preserved in Arabic, while other sites' locations DEFY the biblical TOPOGRAPHY. I have noted that a few professional PhD scholars, have, like myself, noted the same issues, and have discussed their findings in professional journals. One such notable individual, is the now deceased Israeli biblical scholar and archaeologist, Yohanan Aharoni, cf. his book for details (The Land of the Bible, A Historical Geography. 1962 in Hebrew, 1967, 1979 translated into English. The Westminster Press. Philadelphia. I am using the 1979 revised and updated edition). I highly recommend this book to anyone (including 501 Mobius) interested in site identifications for the Exodus. My Exodus research papers are accessible by googling "Academia Profile Walter R. Mattfeld."

[@WalterRMattfeld]

(21 September 2023, 09:30 a.m. EST) In regards to this video's title, The Exodus and Crossing the Sea Myth or Reality: Professor Hoffmeier, being an Egyptologist, ought to be aware of the fact that Pharaoh had no cavalry forces prior to the 8th century BC. Pharaoh's military force in the 13th century BC (Hoffmeier's preferred Exodus date of 1260 BC) consisted of chariots and ground troops only. Following the conquest of Egypt by the Assyrians in the 8th century BC, Egypt came to be introduced to Assyrian cavalry: Warriors on horses, wielding swords in battle. At Nineveh exist bas-reliefs showing Assyrian cavalry engaging in battle enemy horsemen also wielding swords. Apparently, influenced by the Assyrian occupation of Egypt in the 8th century BC, the Egyptians came to adopt cavalry as an important corps in future battles with their enemies. If all this be so, then the notion that all of Pharaoh's horsemen perished in the waters of the Red Sea (Hebrew: Yam Suph) could not of happened before the 8th century BC, negating Hoffmeier's claim the Exodus is an event of the 13th century BC, it can be no earlier than the 8th century BC. For the notion that Pharaoh had no cavalry prior to the 8th century BC, please see the following article: "Mobile Troops, Military: An Overview. by Andrea M. Gnirs. p. 402, Volume 2. 2001. The Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt. Donald B. Redford, Editor in Chief. Oxford University. Gnirs (Vol. 2, p. 402): "Mobile Troops: Although the coordination of large armies and their maintenance were intrinsic to the organization of the Egyptian state from its beginning, chariotry (New Kingdom) and cavalry (eighth century BCE) were late innovations brought to Egypt via Syria and Palestine by cultures more advanced in terms of armament and military organization: the Hurrians in the second millennium BCE and the Assyrians in the first." If Gnirs is correct, the bible's statement about Pharaoh's horsemen being destroyed in the Red Sea, _is nullified._ Such an event was not possible before the 8th century BC according to some Egyptologists! The first century AD Jewish historian, Flavius Josephus, in his _History of the Jews,_ opined that as many as 50,000 horsemen perished in the Red Sea, that sounds like Egyptian cavalry to me. In Conclusion: Josephus' 50,000 horsemen perishing in the Red Sea _is a red herring,_ that reveals the Exodus account can be no earlier than the 8th century BC, a period in which Egypt adopted cavalry as an adjunct to chariots and ground troops, negating Hoffmeier's claim that Exodus is a 13th century BC event.

[@zori9991]

where's the continuation? Also the camera man should have shown the screen from close distance instead of from far back of the hall.

[@TernaryM01]

It's part of a series of lectures: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWq4aoOXbLSqn5o

[@geraldlevin5141]

Demographics suggest majority of Israelites assimilated. How? Joseph & 69 family members enter Egypt. After 5 generations (210 years), about 620 000 soldiers leave; about 2 300 000 people. So, "Chosen' status is proportional to 10 Commandment compliance, NOT GENETICS, AS FEMALES WOULD HAVE TO DELIVER ABOUT 50 BABIES EACH.

[@helenr4300]

I have a problem with the division of 'myth= fantasy locations and real location=history' - such lazy logic here devalues both sides in the debate. There are plenty of fictional stories based in historic contexts alongside known historic places and characters, and myth doesn't mean all false, just as real places and terminology doesn't ensure historicity of any account. I hear your Lord of the Rings reference, and in return cite Robin of Sherwood. .

[@Akanaton55]

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[@geogarces]

video guy needs to "shuv" repent

[@nickstrickland4751]

Yaweh is a Canaanite or a Samaritan deity but is not יהוה Yehovah, which comes from the verb of existence from the Hebrew haya, hovah, yehiye, which means he that existed, exists, and will exist. The pronunciation Yaweh is not true Hebrew but a pseudo pronunciation of Hebrew.

[@Insane_ForJesus]

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