2025 Subaru Forester Review | Subaru's Best Seller Gets Better, But The Best Is Yet To Come...

[@robbflynn4325]

We have a 2019 Forester. Bought new in 2018. Now has 104,000 miles. Zero problems.

[@garystar1592]

same here

[@jedknutson8373]

not even with the dreaded TCV ?........(thermal control valve issue)....

[@robbflynn4325]

@jedknutson8373 In the 5 years we have owned, I recall there were a couple of parts on the engine that Subaru wanted the dealers to carry out checks on. Maybe that was one of the things they checked, but I'm not sure.

[@janelaplant5780]

​@@jedknutson8373I have a 2020 forester , bought it in 2019. No problems at all. The TVC IS IN PERFECT SHAPE.

[@WilliamK-e1j]

How often did you change the transmission “CVT” oil ?

[@jamessilvester9454]

Finally one of the reviewers worked out how to use the Forester reclining rear seats! congrats!

[@dannyw88]

My wife drives a '22 Forester Touring ('19 Limited before that). We have chosen Forester due to its simplicity, great gas mileage, more bang for your buck when considering standard features in comparison to competitors, capability in any terrain, reliability, safety features/ratings, the ability to safely put a car seat in any of the three seats in the second row, and its value retention. As a bonus I would also like to mention that the Eyesight system has provided the best Adaptive Cruise Control experience when compared to other vehicles I've personally driven with ACC. In this review I would have liked to have seen Alex touch on value retention, ground clearance, and safety ratings a little more as those are major selling points for the Forester, in addition to the other points made in the video. One of the controversial things that we actually like about Subaru (specifically the Forester) is that they remain true to themselves, and it works for them. They don't go out of their way to make a boxy/rugged looking street cruiser with screens everywhere in the interior just because it's trendy, and Subaru gets to maintain reasonable prices as a result. The Forester is more capable than a lot of the rugged looking competition, and at the end of the day that's what matters more to us, but I could see why people who care more about looks and power under the hood would maybe look elsewhere. We do a lot outdoors (live in Colorado) and the Forester has always performed well. The AWD has always been great, and the ground clearance allowed us to get to places to camp where we wouldn't have otherwise been able to get to if driving a competitor. We have never had a problem with the CVT in either of the two models we've owned.

[@mattsbrute]

Spot on. Well said

[@chih6654]

The touchscreen that does almost everything is a big mistake!

[@watchreport]

It is. Unfortunately that’s the way the majority have gone. It’s in my 22 Edge. The climate controls are in the screen. And every once in a while the screen glitches and doesn’t come on, and that means no controlling the climate. There is a weird reset for the screen using the steering wheel controls and it’s only happened twice in 2 years, but still, this is the problem with integrating everything.

[@ericg9092]

Yep. I really dislike the huge screen in the new Subarus and a lot of other vehicles. I just bought a Buick Envision AWD primarily because I liked the comfortable interior and integration of the infotainment screen as well as the smooth and quick to shift automatic transmission, and I commute 100 miles to work 3 days a week. I also don't want an iPad Pro in my face every time I get in the car, nor a CVT transmission, regardless of how many automakers try to force them upon us. My Buick will never be off-road ready, but if I need to go off-road and/or camping I'll buy something else.

[@johnnybgood7812]

I’ve got one in my Outback. It’s unnecessarily large but I’m used to it after two years. I don’t love it but I don’t hate it either.

[@garrettw99]

My problem with this screen is that the software is so old and ugly. So there isn’t much of a wow factor AND it’s also slightly more annoying to use.

[@Snafu2346]

I feel big gaudy screens age horribly. And is it me or is the latency so bad, it looks like its running at 15hz.

[@vernonbennettiii3646]

You guys provide the most useful content per minute of viewing than any other KZbin channel. Kudos!

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

Thanks for watching! -Travis

[@ronaldov09]

Still driving my 2015 XT Forester, still goes well so no need to upgrade.

[@ToddWaddell]

This was one of the most thorough car reviews, not to mention first looks, I’ve ever seen. Well done.

[@tocrl00]

I just bought the same exact model, limited trim and color and I am absolutely in love with it. Such a great car/suv and I’m gonna keep it forever.

[@franklarkin6706]

Our 5th Forester is our 2017. Never any issues just keep changing the oil at designated intervals.

[@franklarkin6706]

Our 2017 is the best Forester we ever had. And we've had 4 so far. We'll see how the 25 adds up.

[@robertknight4672]

According to my research with the last generation of Forester the steering responsive headlights became standard on all trims in 2021.

[@kurtkaufman]

Thanks for this and the Subaru 2025 Forester trim level comparison on your channel. I know I'm in the minority here, but I wish, instead of fretting about appearance and tiny little design touches, useful things such as a front passenger seat height adjustment was available on the Premium trim. Aside from that, I have driven this car and I don't find the large screen much of a problem, as the most commonly used features, the audio system and the temperature adjustment, are still available as discreet controls. My chief interest in this 2025 model is that it's substantially quieter than the 2020 I currently drive, which makes an unpleasant, almost howling sound due to road noise (Yes, I have had it checked out by Subaru to ensure that it's not a bearing or differential problem; there's nothing wrong with it, it's just noisy!). I wouldn't buy a Subaru for performance, but there's something about the way cabin is set out that makes it feel far less claustrophobic than the comparable Toyota and Hyundai models, and so is an excellent choice for road trips. While it would be nice to wait for a plug-in model, electrical power is so expensive in this part of the country that I doubt I would see a tremendous cost advantage, considering the premium paid for hybrid technology, and the more frequent replacement of tires required.

[@markkennedy5335]

We bought a 2016 Outback new when we lived in New Zealand. We never had one problem with that car. It never even had a rattle in it. It was such a great car. If we never moved back to Canada we would definitely still own it. We are currently looking at a Forester.

[@foresterg8564]

Hey! I'm a RAV4 guy but I’ve been checking out Subaru lately :) Took a test drive of both the Forester and Outback, and generally liked them, but there are a couple of things I can’t quite figure out or decide on for myself. As someone with more experience, did you ever feel like the steering is too light and sensitive, almost like you’re losing control at times? And how are the seats on long drives? Cuz they felt a bit narrow and firm to me... Do your legs and back get tired after a while? Would love to hear your thoughts on these :)

[@markkennedy5335]

@@foresterg8564 never an issue with the seats on a long drive. I thought the steering was more engaging than the Toyotas we owned, Corolla, Matrix, Camry,Tacoma

[@cjmaher88]

Go with it! I have. 2019 Touring and my dad has a 2025 Touring Forester. Both are awesome! My dad says mine drives and feels just like his, despite being 5 years old with 50k miles!

[@Its_Me0000]

My belief is losing the tactile buttons and knobs is a mistake. I'll keep my 2024 and maybe buy a spare.

[@kevinpenfold1116]

Buy a spare forester?

[@afcgeo882]

It has the same buttons as the 2024…

[@Akeldama626]

⁠@@afcgeo882wrong.. the 24 it had physical dials versus touchscreen

[@zadokmotorfreight2423]

Agree 💯!! I hope they go back to physical controls at least for the HVAC

[@ozzierabbit587]

I greatly prefer tactile switches like those for the seat heaters in my 2018 Forester, rather than in a display screen. Besides that, there's other reasons I prefer my 2018, such as no start/stop tech with the need for a special battery, and no direct injection with added maintenance.

[@kristygraves]

Love that they keep the analog gauges.

[@wordupp18]

The Sport trim does have keyless entry and push button start. The base model has a regular key.

[@WoodSmartUSA]

Great Review… Just bought one yesterday… 1st Subaru Ever 👍

[@DebbieDooo]

What do you think after a month? I am hoping to test drive one soon.

[@WoodSmartUSA]

This was my thoughts after 10 days…Please read the entire review… for after 1 month of ownership 👍 Had my 2025Forester now for about 10 days now… I find the lane centering to be way too aggressive at highway speeds as well on city streets and had to disengage it. Also I find the steering wheel controls to be placed in such a way that my hands always have to be on top of the steering wheel to be comfortable. At highway speeds I actually was concerned driving it being the steering is so tight that with the slightest movement I felt like I was losing control of the vehicle. My 1st Subaru and going to have to get used to its nuances…Feels like the thing has a mind of its own. All the features they offered sounded like a good thing, but I fear it may just be too much, giving too much control to the car’s computer rather than allowing me to decide how I want to drive … Only time will tell if it’s a keeper This is me after a month … I actually am starting to like it alot, that is once I figured out what features I wanted on and which ones I didn’t. Keep in mind I was coming from a previous car with a wider wheel base and certainly can tell the difference. If I had it all to do again I would purchase a loaded Outback instead. It’s a great car, just make sure you purchase the Extended Warranty & Maintenance Plans FROM SUBARU, with ZERO Deductible. I didn’t realize how much maintenance & upkeep as well as the expense is really required with a Subaru, just make sure you keep up with it and you shouldn’t have any issues, it appears to be very dependable and if you keep up with the required maintenance you’ll no doubt have the car for a very long time and probably end up buying another Subaru when you’re done with this one.

[@tophlovr]

I see all those cameras and I wonder why vehicle MFG's don't allow us to plug in a flash drive and use one of those cameras as a dash cam rather than having extra wires dangling around field of view.

[@noob.168]

Hyundai/Kia do let you do that in their KDM cars. Asian automakers just don't like giving USDM cars the same features...

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

Tesla is the only one I can think of off the top of my head. -Travis

[@ludovici42]

100% agreed

[@iqnill]

@@noob.168 USA's Subarus are made in the USA and are a little different to the Japanese made ones.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

Some cars do, including some GM cars. The main reason is that there has to be extra hardware to encode the H264 or H265 as a video file. The screens are just playing back live video that’s likely uncompressed so it doesn’t require the processing power that video encoding would take. Also: dash cams aren’t actually that popular in the USA compared to other world markets (especially Russia where they are almost everywhere)

[@korykelsey4364]

I feel Subaru failed on the exterior styling on the 2025 compared to the previous generation. Nice to see they kept the horizon blue pearl color option though.

[@tommymas1]

The conversation about the turbo subject, which was casually glossed over, didn't include WHY Subaru offers the turbo in the Outback but not the Forester. All we hear about was how the XT didn't sell. It did when they had them but they didn't market them and they rarely kept them in stock. I bought 2 of them and had to wait each time. Give us a choice and let us decide, just like you do for the Outback.

[@ctclardy]

They are afraid that the turbo Forester will compete and take away from their Outback model which brings in higher profits per unit. See my comment above.

[@davewilson7602]

CAFE regulations

[@tommymas1]

@@davewilson7602 ???

[@ctclardy]

@@davewilson7602 So, Mazda doesn't have the same CAFE regs? All their vehicles offer a turbo option from the Mazda 3 up to the six-cylinder CX90. Find a better excuse.

[@marcobryner-santos2215]

Outback XT barely sells now. Why spend millions on turbo Forester if 99% of buyers don’t care for it?

[@lorenschwiderski]

Drops the TCV, I am told, in another YT video. Going back to the old thermostat sounds like a good way to go.

[@Smock0101]

Finally a reviewer that didn’t say this cargo capacity was larger then last gen. Not sure if I would rather have the 34+ cargo space or rear passenger space.

[@goni274]

I drove the Touring. A very nice ride and definitely quieter than the last gen. My rub is this. Cost! In the province of Manitoba Canada with our provincial and federal taxes of 12% total, the top of the line Forester which I would pick comes in at a whopping $53500. Included is a rediculous $2300 freight cost. Now I would rather have the hybrid when it arrives but I can only imagine the additional cost. Subaru you lost me at $45000. See ya later gator.

[@rajarora2097]

Love Subaru have a 2016 forester , absolutely no problems at all have 125,000 miles plan to do 200,000 , and buy a new forester again, not even looking at anything else .

[@WilliamK-e1j]

How often do you change the CVT oil ?

[@newtonlee7849]

.Alex said the average Subi owner keeps their car 8 or 9 years, in my case I still have my 2011 Outback ( since new). My 2011 was my first Subi. I like it so much that I've ordered the 2025 Forester Sport & hope to have it delivered by August. My daughter will get the Outback once I get the Forester.

[@WilliamK-e1j]

How often do you change the CVT oil ?

[@newtonlee7849]

@@WilliamK-e1j Was done at 65,000km.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Alex, If I remember correctly, the 'tall, tall greenhouse" of the Forester used to offer the most headroom in the class. 🤔

[@pilotdog68]

It definitely would if it wasn't for the giant moonroof that slides back instead of popping up or tilting.

[@THEFIRE360]

The front looks like a Ford

[@mrgurulittle7000]

I actually like this design of the Ford Forester.

[@THEFIRE360]

@@mrgurulittle7000 the Fordster lol

[@mrgurulittle7000]

@@THEFIRE360Hell yeah! Most reliable Ford ever!👍👍

[@nostradamus7648]

The Family Truckster (National Lampoon's Vacation)

[@Ittou-Ogami]

Интересно ,что думает по этому поводу Форд ???

[@TheBassetlover]

We just bought a new 2024 Nissan Rogue mostly because of the screen size compared to the gigantic screen of the newSubaru’s. we looked at both the Forester and the outback, and they were way too big for us. Plus, they no longer have physical buttons for many of the functions.

[@adriand817]

How’s your gas mileage so far? How many mpg are you getting? Is your Rogue AwD?

[@Th3Think3r]

The 2024 Rogue has an 8 or 12 inch display. I'll grant you it does have physical buttons for climate control though. The current Outback generation has an 11 inch display and like the 2025 Forester the climate controls will be static on the bottom of the screen. However, the current generation of Forester either has a 6.5 (base trim) or 8 inch display, so no larger than the 2024 Rogue. The current gen Forester also has physical buttons for all the climate control options just as the Rogue does. I could see how you might shy away from the Outback, or the latest gen Crosstrek which also just got the larger display, but the current Forester is no worse than the Rogue when it comes to the display & buttons.

[@ctclardy]

Subaru did not have any problem selling the XT Forester in our area. They sold off the lot as soon as they hit. The real reason they stopped was that they took away from their Outback sales. The Forester needs a selection of engine offerings; the base engine, their turbo, and a hybrid option would be great. But, a plug-in hybrid would be fantastic. It is one of the best compact offerings on the market today except that they only offer a base, to me, anemic engine offering. Excellent and comprehensive video.

[@tommymas1]

100% accurate.

[@ntuthukodlame1894]

I agree! I'm a recent 24 XT OB owner (from 22 Forester) and its clear that its an upsell strategy on their side to maintain profitability. My wife prefers Forester and I like the Forester too, but the power in the OB is a no brainer. Given the choice, I would choose a Forester XT any day , no matter how it looks :). That 2.4 Turbo is really good . 3 x Powertrains as you suggest would clean the market straight away!

[@afcgeo882]

That’s a basic fallacy. “They sold off the lot as soon as they hit” says NOTHING. That only happened because the vast majority of XTs were ordered by the customers and not the dealers. Dealers were never allocated XTs in any quantity to measure actual demand. XTs were low margin trims.

[@nocursewm2938]

Saw another video recently. It said the hybrid Forester coming out will not be the plug in kind.

[@baraclude]

I thought it has something to do with the mpg/emission regulation. At least that's what I read on foresterforum

[@mattheviewer]

Many worthwhile improvements apparently held back by a lackluster (if improved) engine. Perhaps the top secret Htbrid version will help this vehicle pass and drive in mountains as well as save fuel? Even with better suspension, 19" wheels and skinnier tires won't help with potholes or very rough roads.

[@goni274]

It’s added cost to an already expensive vehicle won’t!

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Is a Boxer motor good? It can be. Honda Goldwing motorcycles are renowned for longevity. They used Boxer engines since the 1980's and you can find some with literally a million miles on the odo.

[@Joe-ve9tz]

i actually like the analong instrument cluster

[@ctclardy]

Me to. I am worried about the electronic instrument cluster failing and having an expensive module replacement.

[@noob.168]

If you use GPS, it's so much better to have info on a digital one there instead. subie offers it in some jdm models.

[@noob.168]

@@ctclardy I have bad news about your A/C and radio.

[@Bartholomew60]

I believe the Sport gets the push-button start. It is the Base that has the key.

[@denniss1211]

On fourth Suby and absolutely ..... absolutely no oil usage ! Looking forward to the upcoming.... purchased my new 2023 Forester in Helena ... had two flats in the first 2 months because of the c**p tires Subaru is determined to put on the Forester. Love the car.

[@johnwalker418]

Laying down in back was a nice touch, showing you are not lazy like most automotive journalists..

[@Ride_Runner]

Great review, it would be nice if all of Alex's review were in Montana. Beautiful scenery. Below is another rant about CVTs and fake shifts with paddles. Why do manufacturers keep putting paddles on everything thing. This thing has a CVT, it doesn't have anything to shift! So let me get this straight. Subaru puts in a CVT and then imitates shifting, which actually makes it slower? Why? Just make the CVT, no gimmicks. Spend that fake shifting budget on something else, please.

[@pablobilbao9258]

I use them to slow down and also for better control of car when driving conditions are difficult (snow, mountains).

[@RavennaAl]

Just bought a 2025 to replace our 2010 Forester. How do they compare? The 2025 is only about an inch longer, wider and taller, but sitting inside my wife and I noticed right away the new Forester seems MUCH larger inside than our 2010. LOTS of glass and fantastic view of everything around the car. Driving down the road it's much plusher than our 2010, which we thought was a better ride than our 1994 LHS that it replaced. And, it's SO quiet inside, sometimes I think I'm driving an electric. The seats are a major improvement over the 2010, which was it's biggest flaw. We can't wait until next year when we plan on taking it across the country.

[@Dukiedukester]

I’m holding onto my 2015 6mt Forester, because I love the manual, and longevity is important to me. Make a 6mt available on the Sport, and I’m there, ready to sign.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

Sadly, I can't see that making a comeback. -Travis

[@ozzierabbit587]

If you like a manual, definitely keep your 2015.

[@marioromero2431]

If the moon roof is all the way opened it will bring the shade with it back all the way when you close it. So it really is auto and manual

[@hereigoagain5050]

Loved our 2016 Forester. Unfortunately, it adopted our son when he graduated. Still going strong despite urban commuting & camping trips.

[@WilliamK-e1j]

How often do you change the CVT oil ?

[@henrybrar]

Alex mixed Crown upload with Forestor 🤪

[@danieljones8706]

Someone got some dates mixed up lol.

[@verynick]

Watched the Crown video 3x before it gets deleted lol

[@writingpanda]

I liked the Crown Signia video! I prefer that over this. 😂

[@andresmartinez3390]

I saw the thumbnail, went out and was thinking about watching it when I got home. Now it’s down… darn

[@Gopinathk17]

😂😂

[@rockchalkbach]

Minus the huge center screen, I would have believed this came out in 2008.

[@RareGenXer]

Ouch!😂

[@no1lineman]

Really?

[@rockchalkbach]

@@no1linemanOk, maybe 2012.

[@curseknight5]

Does the Mazda CX-5 / Cx-50 not sell well with its turbo? I personally would've loved to have the XT back as an option.

[@garrettw99]

Not a lot of people want a CVT and a 250+ hp engine. The CVT saps a lot of the fun. The Mazda is way more engaging and fun to drive

[@afcgeo882]

Mazdas don’t sell all that well in general, but the ratio of the turbo sales is higher because of the brand perception and marketing. Mazdas also handle well, unlike Subarus.

[@jtwu8931]

Current Forester owner- not gonna trade it in for this

[@jtwu8931]

Ford finally has something reliable….

[@JamesRussoMillas]

Idk why Subaru acts like they have no money. That screen and gauge cluster was slow and outdated in 2020, why is it still new in 2025? 😒

[@andriipcreate]

I think they try to squeeze all juice from that infotainment system. But I really liked small screen at the top. It was so offroady.

[@LetMeCook86]

Edit: Best Fordster Ever!

[@jedknutson8373]

thats what I see...

[@RareGenXer]

Like the new Ford Camerostang!

[@bkstarkey]

I’d love for them to add capability of changing the gauge light colors.

[@waitingforcivictyper]

Hello, will they be including a hybrid trim. Fuel efficiency is the only downside of a Subaru these days.

[@genericreference6969]

Yes that will be coming for the next model year

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

There will be a hybrid but we have no other information at this time. -Travis

[@nocursewm2938]

Saw another video and the hybrid model is coming for the next year will be the no plug-in kind.

[@COSolar6419]

We had two different (2000 & 2013) Foresters spanning 22 years. We’d probably still be driving one had Subaru offered a plug in hybrid version.

[@antoniolepore8155]

The take rate for the old Forester Turbo was not high. The issue with the old Turbo was it used Premium fuel. Put the 2.4 liter turbo from the Outback in it (using regular fuel) and it will sell.

[@Go_Spleef_Yourself]

Nope, forester XT did not require premium. You can put 87 and it will be completely fine. Premium is recommended doh (XT owner)

[@afcgeo882]

@@Go_Spleef_YourselfSubaru recommended at least 91 Octane on all XTs and knocking is a well-known side effect for those who ignored that recommendation. From the manual: “NOTE: Be sure to use premium unleaded gasoline of 91 AKI or higher for turbo engine models. If other gasoline (lower than 91 AKI) is used, knocking, reduced output and poor accelerator response will result.”

[@afcgeo882]

The take rate was low because the price was high and the features were low. Aside from needing 91 octane it also had worse fuel economy, large wheels/low profile tires that people who go off-road don’t want, needing to cool before shutdown and all of that with a CVT. Honestly, most Forester buyers don’t want or need that with over 80% of all Foresters being sold in the Premium trim.

[@Go_Spleef_Yourself]

@@afcgeo882 Recommended is not the same as required as it specifically states in the manual, "Regular unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of 87 AKI (90 RON) or higher may also be used. Using regular unleaded gasoline will not be detrimental to engine durability, nor will it affect your warranty coverage. However, depending on your driving habits and conditions, you may notice a decrease in maximum engine performance, fuel economy or slight en- gine vibration or knocking" This is from the last generation of XT models.

[@afcgeo882]

@@Go_Spleef_Yourself Except that anyone who knows anything about mechanics knows that engine knocking (early detonation) is ABSOLUTELY harmful to engines, but you do you, boo! See how that warranty claim works out!

[@serenityinsilence]

I’m waiting to see how the wilderness looks and what is offered on it. Otherwise I’m between the premium and sport. I’d be all for the sport but I’m not a fan of the bronze wheels, or the fact it comes with 19’s on a car supposed to be a light off roader.

[@turbohokie1]

I don't like how they raised the hood so much compared to prior generations. The really low hoodline and the upright windshield is, or was, what made foresters so great. The visibility offered by Forester is unmatched by any other car, not so sure about that anymore.

[@valdius85]

It’s lower than current gen and current gen is decent - I own it so speaking from my own experience. There is a turbo Forester on other market and that front height is used to deliver air to the intercooler.

[@jamesrichardson559]

I really like the looks especially the front and the rear windows lost the wedge look.

[@RowanGontier]

I have long admired Subaru, and always wanted to get one. They used to have high fuel consumption, and then they suffered from low power (seemingly to combat the consumption). This update looks like a shift to mainstream taste, but it doesn't seem they have been able to improve the engine much. Hoping that the hybrid tie up with Toyota will help. The bloated design on the new Forrester makes the crosstrek look more appealing to me.

[@lorenschwiderski]

Is it true that the automatic braking is always on, unless disabled every restart of the car?

[@weaseldragon]

Why not do the 0-60 test in [S] mode? If you care about getting the max acceleration, then press the [S] button.

[@williamtaylor3091]

I really appreciate what Subaru did with the interior, and I don’t think the touchscreen is the worst in the world, I just hate how generic it looks on the outside now. The rest of Subarus lineup is a really great mix of muscular and athletic and off-road cues, like the new crosstrek and WRX, but This looks like they went to an AI image generator and typed in “softroader” and just produced whatever was spit out

[@RareGenXer]

😂

[@igor-rp5mw]

4:50 - folks do not believe this man. Modern Subaru do not consume oil between oil changes. I have 100K personal miles in newer Forester and our household combined has around 250K miles in various new Subarus. We do maintenance at home and there is zero oil level drop between oil changes. Additionally full tank of gas in Forester gets you 550 miles in highway at highway speeds. At smaller highways where average speeds 35-55 it gets 600-650 miles per tank. There is no other full time awd suv that offers this at this price.

[@reneeparker7475]

I have a 2015 Forester with 118,000 miles and I love it. If I ever get another car, I'm getting another Forester.

[@WilliamK-e1j]

How often do you change the CVT oil ?

[@KNRS927]

As an owner of a 2023 Subaru Forester, I will admit this new one has some pros and cons compared to the old one. For one, it seems a little more grown up in the way it rides and drives overall as pointed out in the review. It also seems like Subaru has added more comfort features that were lacking in the old generation. It seems like it's better equipped to take on the heavy hitters like the Rav4 and CRV, and should be a top seller. Thing is, can the Forester still sell well without alienating its core loyal buyers of the past? Some of those buyers, especially the current generation really loved the functional simplicity of the car and hated the new do-it-all touchscreen. They also loved that boxy toaster shape and that's kind of gone. Overall, it'll still sell well and likely steal some Rav4/CRV buyers, but will the Forester fans like this new one?

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

The overall shape hasn't changed much at all, the functional space is still there. -Travis

[@KNRS927]

Really? I feel the window line isn’t as upright and boxy as my 2023 model. Plus this car looks more like every generic crossover and less so a tall wagon like the older ones did. Maybe that’s just my opinion.

[@tiagoj8020]

10:02 I find it funny that the sunglass holders take up so much space IMO

[@valdius85]

Yes, but no one sits in the middle of the arm rest, so it’s fine. I looks similar to mine and I’ve never noticed it as problematic 😂

[@CRVgarage]

Does blind spot system beep on the new Forester to alert the driver?? Honda, mazda, hyundai, kia, chevy offer the audible beep.

[@mwwhatever]

Definitely saw some Ford Explorer, but for me it was the headlights. LED brake lights is incredibly low on my list of priorities for a car. Not a fan of frameless windows...on any car

[@charlie3851]

I have a 2021 base Forester and it has never used a drop of oil. I check it all the time and I don't baby it.

[@fkporsche1]

It would be good to see a plugin hybrid forester.

[@paolaperez2591]

Really really not a fan of the look on this forester. If the rest of the Subaru line ups follow suite I’ll have to back to Honda. Love what they did with their new CRV

[@valdius85]

I own a current eboxer Forester. New gen is interesting and I’d like to upgrade to in when hybrid comes in. Subaru kept the things I like and added things I care about. Besides the obvious things mentioned, the front surfaces under the windshield is not more horizontal. I use often when eating on the road trips 😂❤

[@djross95]

Give me a turbo and a proper automatic transmission and I would seriously consider this. Without those, it's a hard pass.

[@monroesbro]

Forrester driver here but my next vehicle will not be gas powered. My family is on our third and likely last Subaru. It's a bummer Subaru has lagged so much bringing real EV options to their lineup.

[@sammyday3341]

Enjoy your charging layovers. 😂

[@williamstevenson8518]

It needs more physical buttons! And a CD player!!

[@hamidmghazi]

CD players have been long gone bro

[@bradskrypto9212]

My 2023 Forester Wilderness has both

[@arubial1229]

A CD player lol. FOH…

[@Snafu2346]

i hope their hybrid is some variant of a toyota hybrid engine with the toyota ECVT. Because subaru's last hybrid, the crosstrek wasn't tall that popular. And making available only as its very top trim and most expensive was a failure. Rav4 hybrid is popular because they had a hybrid for every trim model from the lowest to its highest. with its more popular being its low-mid to mid tier hybrids. Somehow, I think subuaru's decision for its hybrid will be another dropped ball and they'll make it on some non sensical most expensive trim model yet again with 90% of the stuff I don't want and having it at high 30s low 40s.

[@adamh8140]

It would be just the one gen old hybrid system. They are planning announce it at the last quarter this year.

[@cbijames7]

Well that third camera kind of stinks cuz I put my dash cam right behind the rearview mirror so now when I have issues with that I have a 21 Crosstrek with the eyesight but right now there's no third camera so I got plenty room for my dash cam

[@TheWarder500]

I feel like the biggest thing holding Subaru back is their infotainment system. They are leagues behind . I’d buy one if they updated it and it was half way decent upgrade

[@luchanator9732]

If the screen brakes it cost 3500 $ to replace. If you crack the windshield with eyesight another 3500$ to replace. Not for me all that tech. I will be running my 2014crosstrek to the ground before i switch. I only have 72000 km .

[@RootRoot-dp2em]

And who would be the Distributor/Installer in the U.S.? As far as I know, there is no Aftermarket Turbo/Supercharger available for the Subaru 2.5 L Engine!

[@michelleparadero92892]

I am hoping that Subaru puts a turbo in the new Wilderness model. If my car doesn't last until the new Wilderness comes out, would you recommend the 2024 Forester Wilderness or the 2025 Forester Sport?

[@bradfordsparks329]

My DIL just ditched her 2010 Forester because of a multitude of repairs that needed to be addressed that far exceeded the value of the vehicle.

[@mjrtensepian1727]

Hey, where did the Crown Signia video go?! I wanted to attack you on a deeply personal level for saying "storageability", but ...no video, no comments, nothing!

[@mirceamunteanu4791]

He posted the video too soon. Got a chance to watch it fully

[@Nathan-lw1mm]

I enjoyed your video though I'd love to hear more about the changes to the eyesight system (besides the extra camera). I currently own a 2020 Subaru Sport, I love the car but there's lots to improve in the eyesight system.

[@ImaCrabby1-fl1do]

Looks like the front headlights flash constantly, I find headlights like that make me nauseous.

[@mattsbrute]

I purchased a 24 forester sport 3 weeks ago over the 25 due to the big screen and I don't buy first run new model years. I would think the sun glare on that huge screen would be problematic trying to find buttons while driving. I love the knobs and layout of the 24 controls. I can adjust the temp or fan without looking down. You cant do that on the screen.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

Glad you were able to find an option that worked for you! -Travis

[@iqnill]

When will Subaru wake up and allow for full size spare? In my Crosstrek'24 the space is too small by 1 inch, press a larger space please!!!!! How can they sell an "Adventure"/ off-road vehicle with a toy spare...

[@yangchan8002]

I have a a 2014 Forester 😮 at the time It only has the eye sight camera but it's only on the top trim 😢 I didn't go for it because it's so New there maybe some bugs in the software and radio has a Bluetooth and a CD player 😂 about a week we were on the road and an emergency vehicle is coming our way my daughter was the driver she pulled to right side right in a muddy field 😢 after the vehicle passed she pulled back to the regular road Subaru just drove right on the road she didn't have to figure out what x,z mode to use she just gives it some gas and we were on the road 😅 that is why I like Subaru AWD system I don't need figured out what mode to use just drive and it goes 😂 CVT and orange combo is not fast 😢 that is why I got it because I know my teenager is going drive It and with the combo It will be hard for them to race the car and now the car is getting old some new safety stuff should be good now 😂 so we might consider a new one but maybe until the wildness and hybrid comes out we will wait for now and I hope it will be fast because I am looking at other ones

[@russgifford519]

I don't mind the CVTs, what I like about them is that they quiet, they just go with no shifting. A friend has a new Legacy with a CVT and they intentionally make it sound like it's shifting like a conventional transmission with shifting points ? What the point of that ???

[@4orrcountry]

Because that's what people are used to.

[@georgeg.7124]

Glad you got to review sort of a mid-trim level.

[@santabarbarian5049]

How does this stack up against something like the new Tucson?

[@717dash_cam]

I want to see the next gen wilderness as a hybrid by default, as long as they keep it a mechanical awd setup.

[@angelas4681]

Yawn. The outgoing Forester was homely-looking, but at least you could tell it was a Subaru. This thing will be the most generic appliance on the road. Also, I don't understand why such a safety-conscious company insists on installing that problematic, cumbersome, driver-distracting multifunction panel in all of their cars.

[@jyc313]

Not inspiring but not a yawn. There’s worse designs out there.

[@RareGenXer]

It's far cheaper to drop in a standardizes screen unit into all their models than to design a unique dashboard with all the unique knobs and buttons for each of them. You didn't think they were doing it for us did you? Every manufacturer is now guilty of this terrible trend. You watch, the super-premium autos will start having physical dials, knobs and buttons again as a status symbol. Like a Rolex, versus a cheap digital watch.

[@md8744]

This is a disaster for me when i was college student in yrs of 1999-2003 it" asked" me stay all day long along side of the road most of the time.

[@JURASSICEDITS09]

I'm assuming the Subaru hybrid will be based on the Toyotas hybrid max system . Not the dual motor E cvt setup....

[@FlowJunkie65]

Alex, another outstanding review, thank you. I have a '22 Forester Premium with which I am completely happy. It is my 2nd Subaru - previously owned an '84 Hatchback which had a 1600cc engine, 4-speed manual, FWD, and it was the most inexpensive model at that time, yet it ran like a champ and got 42 MPG on the highway.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

It sounds like you're getting the most out of your Subarus. -Travis

[@kubi0461]

Upgrade that infotainment to a modern processor and still a real engine in it, and I’d probably buy one. A hybrid may have potential.

[@mike9588]

Something I don’t understand in 2024 is why updated cars are still coming with USB-A ports, also this doesn’t seem to be groundbreaking and like Subaru went all out, seems conservative to just try and do enough to maintain marketshare

[@cbijames7]

I don't know how the oil consumptions a problem I got three Subarus I run Amsoil and all of them and they don't drop at all between oil changes every 10,000 mi

[@ahmedsyed3436]

I really like the front, especially the grill.

[@bruddahmanmatt]

@11:35 Pretty sure you mean Base model. No way the Premium gets push button start below the Sport and then the Sport gets a downgrade back to a physical key.

[@ibz.a]

Did you take down the crownsignia review?

[@Smoothsounds88]

I feel the data is skewed. If they offered more powerful turbo engines in base trims, turbos would be chosen more.

[@tommymas1]

100% correct.

[@ctclardy]

Subaru does not want it to compete with its Outback model and steal sales. Their Outbacks bring more profit per vehicle... a big mistake though not offering more powerful engine options, in my opinion.

[@Hallowsaw]

I own a 2011 and a 2017 subaru. I find it pretty boring that almost all subarus now have almost the same interior. Also why have 2 different videos for the forester. Subaru should have released the hybrid info too

[@Hallowsaw]

I see the crown signia video is gone

[@outofabook]

Ugh that is disappointing, actually just straight infuriating that Subaru is continuing to put climate controls behind multiple touch screen touches. That might actually be enough to get me to buy a CR-V instead. It's dangerous to put important often-used controls like that in positions that require you to take your eyes from the road. The outgoing Forester did it well. It's unfortunate seeing them going in the wrong direction.

[@chrisbatista4481]

Completely agree! Something’s needs to stay analog

[@Zanderthelab]

You can tell it to change. But it’s really not hard to change the hvac. If you can’t glance down and back up at the road to change your climate you just shouldn’t be driving. My 70 year old grandmother can manage it just fine.

[@stopthebs77]

I hated them too, and it was going to be the primary reason I wasn't going to buy my 24 Crosstrek. I'm genuinely old school, and have always absolutely hated touch screens in general, but when they transitioned to including hvac controls there, I said there's no way I'd ever buy a vehicle with these things. But, I was so extremely impressed with the Crosstrek, how much they've improved the CVT (my other complaint area),