Alfa Romeo GTV6 9 minute 25 second Nurburgring Lap - BTG

[@hugogreen4916]

3.5 and we’ll set up. Shows that under 10 mins is far from easy. Unless your Sabine Schmitt in a Transit Van

[@gabork.8715]

Why not use 5th gear at the straights, could not see any use of that gear! For comparison the best time for the GTV6 2,5 in ETCC Group A racing on this 20.832m track was 8.25.45 in 10.7.83. Also normally the time is measured start/ finish at the end of the long straight. Here it seems the time was measured to the bridge before the exit. So much shorter distance.

[@cbca6567]

nice try and good driving but maybe car needs some more work since on youtube two different stock panda 100hp cars posted bests of 9.30 and 9.39 respectively with 99hp

[@rakerholm]

Driver needs more preparation. Not the car. Practice makes perfect. I`ve been a few times to the track and know it well. Sub 9 minuets is not in any way a problem with this car.

[@cbca6567]

@@rakerholm yes the driver needs to know the circuit more but the car is also not totally prepared and that soft chassis is moving around too much. The Panda was stock with little if any chassis movement, but just lacking in power, and that chassis rigidity is needed on a circuit full of twists and turns and different cambers and where you make speed.

[@rakerholm]

@@cbca6567 I own 2 GTV6es myself. One being a Grand Prix. Yes a gtv6 is somewhat soft stock. But on the Nürburgring you don't want a too stiff car anyway. A stock 2,5 80's GTV6 would have no problem getting the same time or better, as the Pandas your referring to. The GTV6 is very well balanced in high speed corners. As well as being somewhat neutral with regards of over and understeer.

[@cbca6567]

@@rakerholm I also own an Alfetta and i consider it the best handler bar none of its generation into the 90s on the road, not track without major modifications, but all the chassis of the Alfetta and later 75 were soft from factory and the major weakness; the SZ chassis is very stiff and rides very stiffly also. It is the major defect for track racing, unless you strengthen the pickup suspension mounts like in the SZ or fit dropped spindles (like in the sz) and fit a rollcage. The GTV6 in the video does not set good times and has a lot of mods including 3.5 engine and the rs package which just magnifies the chassis softness because it sends all the force to the chassis in corners, terrible! The driver is pushing but does not know the circuit that well and his times reflect it so a stock car would be worse.The Panda and mostly all cars of this generation have much stiffer chassis and that counts on track for response times.

[@rakerholm]

@@cbca6567 Alfetta, GTV, GTV6 and 75 is not the same thing. I've owned all. As well as a 90 2,5 and a Giulietta and ALL ride way different from each other. Even the GTV6 from the GTV is a huge difference you could feel even in a parking lot. And as a matter of fact; Are you aware that the GTV6 won the Touring Car championship 4 years in a row? There is a reason for that. I have not ridden a GTV6 on the Nürburgring, but I've ridden it plenty on other tracks. And I've ridden about 10 other different cars on the Nürburgring, including Ron Simons private black 75 3,0. Same driver in both cars, the stock GTV6 would set better times than the Panda. I would gladly volunteer to kick some Panda dirt with a stock GTV6 without any hesitation.

[@armandoermocida3311]

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[@armandoermocida3311]

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