ALIEN 5 - The Timeline, Plot and NEW INFO on Neill Blomkamp's ALIENS Sequel Film

What was the plot of the cancelled Neill Blomkamp ALIENS sequel? I discuss the timeline of the confusing and contradictory events leading up to the demise of ALIEN 5. Along with this, I share exclusive new details of the story and plot of the cancelled Alien 5 movie that I have learned over the years.
Was having Ripley, Hicks, and Newt back going to be worth it? Maybe not as much as we'd hoped. Did Ridley Scott or 20th Century FOX end the project? Was Alien 5 going to be good, or bad? Watch to learn the mysteries of Neill Blomkamp's doomed project.
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[@kellysmith1144]

It's so disheartening to hear people say Alien is Ridleys own creation. It's simply not. He directed it, sure, after being brought in very late, but the idea was not his, the script wasn't his.

[@MikesMonsters]

But if it weren't for him, and him going through the Necronomicon by Tiger after it was handed to him, we likely wouldn't have the look of the iconic xenomorph and much more. Ridley might not be wholly responsible for the entirety of ALIEN, but he is responsible for the look, feel, tone and vibe the movie delivered. It's understandable how people see it as his.

[@_GeneralMechanics_]

Despite his vision of Halo never happening, I want to imagine Blomkamp would have gotten Sigourney to play Dr. Halsey.

[@chrishateley5582]

Now that would be great casting.

[@MikesMonsters]

That would have been some good casting for sure.

[@richardmaloneriki1811]

I'd love if they attempted a graphic novel like Vincent Ward's abandoned Alien 3 pitch (which as far as I'm aware, never got finished)

[@MikesMonsters]

I completely agree!

[@portalscifi]

Wow, never seen such a complete documentary about this theme. Such a pain we never got Blomkamp´s vision of Aliens. Great video!

[@MikesMonsters]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you so much for watching! It certainly would have been something if we got that film!

[@BlueMarsalis]

A pain? We dodged a hurricane made entirely of bullets.

[@jasonleveck8546]

Major missed opportunity to have righted this franchise. Ridley Scott needs to be shown the door in regards to Aliens.

[@jasonleveck8546]

@@BlueMarsalis right and you got a storm of dog shit called "Covenant", which is a completely useless and forced entry into the Alien universe. Scott through a fit and felt jealous of his talent and so cried until the studio bent the knee and already having had lots of money invested in his bull shit Prometheus entries.

[@BlueMarsalis]

Alien Covenant's far better than even the best version of this idea, Ridley Scott's a better filmmaker. And the studio either had the option of going with the Director of Alien, Blade Runner, Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, Kingdom of Heaven, and at the time The Martian adaptation. Or... Chappie? You have to be insane to pick Neill Blomkamp or blinded by justifiable ire towards Prometheus. Likely the studio just picked the better director, and the better idea, being that anything surpasses Ripley in a biomechanical mech suit and Aliens having their own technology made from human beings.

[@buddybarlow9604]

I wonder why we haven't seen anything on Noah Hawleys Alien series on FX yet...aren't they shooting in thailand? No leaks?

[@MikesMonsters]

There was some concept art leaks from AvPGalaxy over the last few years, but that production has been on lockdown otherwise. They likely don't want it to confuse or interfere with Romulus. But once that's out, it'll be just the right time to start marketing for the series.

[@jasonleveck8546]

The terrific stories created in the Dark Horse universe is full of gold and diamonds for the mining of various series. I think much of this content would be not only well suited to the cinema but also the episodic format of the various streamers. Unfortunately Disney owns the rights to the franchise and that is not a good thing.

[@MikesMonsters]

Disney is doing alright, plus, it's still FOX who's running it and nothing has changed there. I can definitely tell you Romulus isn't tame.

[@jasonleveck8546]

@@MikesMonsters I hope it's good, great in fact. All I know, is that i'd love for the same magic of Aliens once again. Lately, Disney is really fucking the dog and their constant political pontificating is showing to be a real loser in the gross receipts of their movies.

[@Dirty_Nero_Main]

The DNA ship lost me. Kinda glad we didn't go there. Don't get me wrong, the biomech concept was much more alluring. Perhaps the pathogen's creators sought to fuse an empire of alien species with their technology, seeding the universe with life not unlike the Engineers and humans as well as cleansing world's with the Xenomorphic progeny of the pathogen when weaponised. An originator that had long since died, leaving only the living machines of their final attempt to forestall their own extinction. Perhaps the Xenomorph simply happens because a careless creator underestimated the virility of the Deacon's Blood.

[@TheTrveMothlord]

Yep, I am of a very similar mind. The engineers in my mind are the gardeners of eden left to continue their work after god has gone MIA or is busy elsewhere. The xenomorphs being a parasitic species beg the question, is there a pure xenomorph that came before a host species ever changed them? Is the deacon an ancient predecessor or something "close" to what a pure xenomorph is? I certainly like to think that the pathogen came about by trying to replicate something inside the deacon/xenomorphs and it went kind of wrong becoming more of a weapon.

[@erictuxen]

Human Juggernaut ship - nope

[@MikesMonsters]

Big nope. Big, big nope.

[@danielwoods3563]

People complain about Prometheus and Covenant demystifying the xenomorph and space jockey, but having the derelict being made out of human DNA? I don’t think anything could destroy the mystery more than that. What an awful idea. For me, the Engineer storyline brought even more mystery. In a genre bloated with different imaginings of alien species, the Engineers still stand out as one of the more unique and fascinating. And even with the introduction of the Engineers, Prometheus still made it clear the Xenomorph predated David and maybe the Engineers themselves.

[@Jerry98x]

Also, if we really want to speak the truth, Aliens did more damage to the xenomorph than the prequels. But people won't aver admit that

[@Jerry98x]

@satanistclub they aren't by any means, but okay. I'll tell you more: they're the best movies in the franchise after Alien and Aliens. At a great distance from Alien³ and then Resurrection.

[@naleparyan]

I'm w/ya... that was the biggest surprise in this video... and NOT in a good way.

[@TheTrveMothlord]

​​@@Jerry98x YES! nostgia is totally blinding about Aliens. Great movie but turning the aliens into just bugs? Boring af and super demystifying. And its the reason Xenomorphs later on go turned into basically just raptors in Resurrection and the AVP films. Still cool on its own (space marines vs bugs) but Alien had the creature especially with deleted scenes acting so much more bizarre plus the cocooning being even more disturbing.

[@TheTrveMothlord]

You're spot on with implication and theory that the Xenomorphs predate the engineers. Personally there's some much freedom and creativity with the engineers in the universe. Who knew if the engineers tampered with the xenomorphs and corrupted them? Was there ever a pure Xenomorph since the ones we know grow from hosts? Is the Deacon related to the idea of an ancient xenomorph? Plus all the potential of the black goo that could give us some insane Dead Space level horror? I think the biggest issue is the engineers dont look like what people wanted. But personally, the engineers to me may just be another rung in the hierachy and potentially be similar to the androids humans made. Beings created to be perfect and tend to things while the creators get to sit back and be otherwise occupied with even more wild things.

[@Dude-oh8vq]

I'm still sad that Neil didn't get to make his film, however, I do think if it happened, that he would be better suited with someone on set to tell him when certain ideas were bad, and so on. Some of his designs and plot points were a little too rehashy to me, and I also think he could tone down his choppy editing and slow motion, which he tends to overuse from my view.

[@frankthecat1660]

It was an awful fan-fic level idea for a movie, who's only point was to bring back 2 characters that don't matter in the larger scheme of things, just to appease all the crybabies who didn't like the opening of ALIEN³.

[@MikesMonsters]

He didn't seem to like when some people in production told him his ideas weren't the best. He seemed really resistant to outside opinions, and even stated he doesn't like being told what to do.

[@Dude-oh8vq]

@@MikesMonsters That's too bad. Might be someone who's hard to work with then.

[@Guernicaman]

Perhaps Blomkamp's "Alien 5" could be turned into a video game instead of a movie. I can see it become a Resident Evil 4-style survival-horror game, perhaps w/co-op. Not sure who has the Alien ip license -- tho I think it's SEGA.

[@frenchcoupon3391]

Knowing that at the end- the Studio decides- the implication of Weaver killed the movie. I would have loved that concept and a true Aliens sequel. However I would have preferred the initial movie, as originally intended by Blomkamp. Without Ripley/Hicks/Newt. Alien is such a rarity in movies, that any movie (made and done) is a miracle. The downfall of Alien 5 project proves that.

[@MikesMonsters]

Maybe the movie without Hicks, Newt and Ripley could have been cool. But if it introduced the idea of the of the derelict ship from ALIEN being made out of human DNA by xenomorph saliva... I'm not so sure...

[@frenchcoupon3391]

@@MikesMonsters Sure. As much as I love the engineers concept, we didn’t need the Alien’s origins. Nor the Engineers (who were this giger-esque gigantic elephant creatures, molded or part of a chair- genius concept, by the way).

[@user-tm7os2qc5j]

Another such intriguing idea about origin from the Earth... But makes questions -- where is alien ??? and why the ship was so far from the Earth and ruled by not a beast, not a human ???

[@adamcammack3534]

I find Blomkamps comment about not wanting to play with someone elses property very strange because I remember in 2018/19 it was rumoured he was going to Direct Robocop returns before that project fell apart, He now seems to be kinda in limbo with Demonic and Gran Tursimo like what happened with him?

[@danielvargas6414]

Provably he did something or say something that someone didn't like it or simply because the franchise's right where in another people's hands and they didn't like the idea. Who knows, but one thing is sure, he felt in disgrace, in my opinion, and it's sad.

[@msscott22]

I always thought it was bizarre that Blomkamp was going to ignore Robocop 2 with Robocop Returns.

[@girafingo9280]

Great video Mike - another superlative Aliens piece! I liked the concept art of Bloomkamp's alien film and can see a lot of the OATS Studio feel and vibe (which I love). I feel Neil Bloomkamp leans more towards Cameron than Scott with his storytelling style - what I like about this possible version is that it seems to balance fan anticipation with some really daring albeit hard to fathom new ideas (Xenos as pioneering ship builders) Still, the idea of 'Aliens' was also kind of revolutionary compared to the first film - loads of aliens and loads of guns - it could have been a disaster. So part of me thinks a director like Bloomkamp with a great track record in bio-mechanical stories is better equipped than most to make it work.

[@jasonleveck8546]

It's important for people to realize that much of these concept arts are just that, a concept. Artists fire off all kinds of doodles and ideas while they're developing ideas. Some get expanded while others are at the same time retracted. Plenty of the concepts we've seen would never have made it past the illustrations and this is part/parcel of that process with artists. People just wanna jump to conclusions because so many people invested themselves in the shitty prometheus films and simply can't accept that those films were garbage and not needed in the franchise. Nothing but atheistic wet dreams.

[@xxthehuskycaboosexx]

A ship built by aliens, that has human DNA? No thanks lmao Excited for Romulus!

[@peterkrochmalni673]

Well, the human dna thing is not my cup of tea, but I do love the fact that the Xenos are growing their own ship it’s the same idea I have for my stories, though in mine they are using Space Jockey biotech (sorta like seeds that grow a spaceship) appropriated from WaYu who excavated it from a dig site on a colony.

[@T--kq3pj]

yeah, take your new shit to a bucket with 2 old shits - prometheus and covenant

[@MikesMonsters]

I'm excited for everyone else to see Romulus in the near future!

[@calebmar12]

Loved the video! Feels good finally knowing some details to go with the art. I can get behind some of the ideas (Alien martial being used to convert humans into stuff) but not so much others (the aliens being the ones to do it). With the info here, I think theres parts of a really cool story about the Bio-Weapons division finally getting an Alien, that drifted away a little to far into some high tier weirdness (Which I can always get behind depending on execution.)

[@MikesMonsters]

Thank you so much for watching! I'm glad I was able to share some information too. I find the artwork fascinating, yet happy it never got made into a full motion picture.

[@PrinceTrish]

For all the alien³ hate, i like it as a film; it feels almost like it was written as a theatre production in that it is mostly characters in rooms talking to each other, more like a thriller than action or horror, it containing bare few relevant examples of either. But to that point alien has been a franchise of different genres and styles. Perhaps this wasn't a great idea for a blockbuster franchise but it is in keeping with the tradition of the films to that point. Since the first film was a horror the second couldn't do that because it had already been done so they make action, which of course the third film couldn't follow without retreading all the same tropes so they took it in a different direction again; this film is more of a companion to the series for the lore nerds and fangirls without drastically affecting a wider theme of the inhumanity of humankind. Viewed through the lens of the great evil of the franchise being people, having a film comprised of prisoners set in a doomed dilapidated facility who's only chance of escaping the Star beast is via the company troopers who are literally there to kill everyone except the xenomorph and to have it caps with the death of Ripley totally underlines all of that, although it does make it something of a bummer to watch lol And for everyone sitting on Resurrection, it was made as a completely different format of action movie more like the over the top comic esq s films of the time and also contains a scene between two of the greatest actresses sigourney weaver and Winona Ryder play a clone and a synthetic standing in a chapel debating who isn't human which frankly could be a film all of it s own

[@MikesMonsters]

Great points!

[@stingray2001]

My understanding of the script, would have leaned more into Newts story and her PTSD dealing with the aliens. Newt would have been the main protagonist, and the story would have explored her struggles with PTSD and her connection to the Xenomorphs. The film would have also introduced a new cast of characters, including a group of space marines and scientists who are investigating the Xenomorph threat. The plot would have likely involved a new alien outbreak, possibly on a different planet or in a different part of the galaxy, and Newt's journey to confront her past and stop the aliens once and for all. The film would have also likely explored themes of trauma, survival, and redemption, and would have featured plenty of action, suspense, and horror elements.

[@BlueMarsalis]

Actually watch the video, it had none of the above.

[@stingray2001]

@@BlueMarsalis I did watch the video, that's why I posted this reply.

[@MikesMonsters]

Quite an interesting speculation, but I can confirm that this wasn't what would have gone down in the film.

[@randomflagg7331]

The feeling I got of 20th century and pine woods studio's was this strong desire to jettison the James Cameron sequel from the timeline. it goes all the way back to when they were making aliens. there seemed to be a resistance to anything not made by Scott and even though Aliens was this massive hit. it;s like they shrugged at it, and when they had a chance to build upon Aliens what did they do?..... Exactly, they eliminated the connection to the sequel and basically hit reset as if part 2 never happened. and now decades later when the subject gets brought up again what happened? Scott has it burned and buried.

[@jmh8697]

It's a shame this never quite got off the ground, but if Fede's Romulus movie is a success, perhaps Disney/20thCentury will explore it again?

[@MikesMonsters]

Maybe in comic form or something, but I can't see Neill wanting to come back after he was burned so badly by the project.

[@JooshMe]

Damn. I love all of this. Too bad Ridley’s ego got in the way.

[@iguanatrader3781]

Somebody did not watch the movie. It is quite the opposite.

[@MikesMonsters]

Even the part about the crashed Derelict ship from ALIEN being made out of Human DNA?

[@mlonster]

Covenant and Prometheus have grown on you? What? Like an alien spore fungus? :)

[@MikesMonsters]

Basically! haha. But I don't love them like I do the original films. I just like some of the things they do in the films, but the overall packages I've got some serious issues with. But with more time with them, I've learned to appreciate some bits and pieces.

[@dman3316]

Reading between the lines, my guess is the title would have been ALIENS II. Eloquently separates it from the Prometheus movies, and tells new and old audiences exactly what it is and where it sits in the series

[@AGUC426]

Sounds like we may have dodged a bullet. Still want a comic book version otherwise there's too much 'what if' elements

[@aejokerDa]

Excellent video.

[@RakaiThwei]

Honestly? Maybe it was a good thing that Blomkamp's movie didn't get made, especially with the new plot point that you just unveiled.

[@adamcadwell4560]

Yeah, I didn't like that idea either. I get they're smart, but sounds too much.

[@JooshMe]

Biomechanical doesn’t necessitate intention.

[@1mudrec]

Hi Mike, thanks for the video. The whole problem here is that we already had Prometheus filmed, where there was black slurry. Ridley already had a script for a covenant with David playing another David's pipe. So, the question is, where did human DNA come from, if we now have the slurry from Prometheus and the covenant?) if there was a ready-made model of aliens2, if we have so much concept art, then most likely the film was at the starting point of filming. so, most likely the studio was waiting to see if Elysium would take off, but instead Elysium failed, they began to wait for covenant, otherwise they would invest 150-200 million in another film, which would also not pay off so-so. the covenant failed, district number 9 failed. Well, in principle, it’s obvious that the director was pushed aside, but! if he was pushed back, why are his ideas possibly going to be used in future films?)

I was already turned off at the sight of Ripley in the Kenner A.T.A.X. armor… but the idea that the aliens are capable of making spacecrafts is too far. That’s far more stupid than anything Ridley did in his prequels. In hindsight, I’m amused by all of the fans saying the prequels ruined the franchise while claiming this film would have saved it.

[@jasonleveck8546]

Have no idea what you're referencing? The prequels are dog shit, don't kid yourself, you're certainly not kidding anybody else.

[@earthcitizen3939]

I'm not a fan of the prequels, but this seems terrible

[@Right_Said_Brett]

@@jasonleveck8546 The OP never said that the prequels were good movies. They simply said that Blomkamp's movie sounded even worse, which it did.

[@jasonleveck8546]

@@Right_Said_Brett many, myself included do not think the movie sounded worse, in fact it sounded pretty bad ass and quite likely would've set the franchise to right. I'll go with the credibility of Weaver and Cameron over simple fan boys.

[@Right_Said_Brett]

@@jasonleveck8546 Yet more insults, in place of actual rebuttals to the arguments which I've made. It doesn't matter whether you liked the sound of Blomkamp's Alien movie. It's completely irrelevant. You said that Alien 3 killed the franchise. I pointed out why that was not the case. Stay to the topic at hand, you petulant child.

[@residentgrigo4701]

What I don´t get is how this shares canon and a world and worldview with the first 2 films. I take Alien 3 (AC) any day over Blomkamp´s vague idea. The art of course is great even if the ideas shown aren´t. The mini bursters are beyond comical. Make this into a comic or rewrite it into an original comic/anime plot with new leads set after Alien 3. With less "evolved" Aliens and no Queen power-suit cosplay trash and we might have a B- on our hands.

[@MikesMonsters]

It would have been messy and confusing, that's for sure.

[@karlheinz3152]

This DNA stuff sounds... weird! Would it be something like eggmorphing? I think i really don't understand how this should work out.

[@MikesMonsters]

Very weird, right?! I think it's safe to assume it would be like egg morphing, or some similar type of method is how the process was started. I wasn't given the full exact detailing of the process of that, unfortunately.

[@karlheinz3152]

@@MikesMonsters there is a concept art of a morphing guy and Ripley is scared of him. Maybe something like this. I have to say, i like this more than the Black goo. But its still weird. 😀

[@Right_Said_Brett]

@@MikesMonsters I suspect that we can see a part of the process in one of the concept art pieces within your video; the one where Ripley is looking distraught over human soup stuck to the wall.

[@paddypoolfc3579]

For all its production problems i didnt think alien 3 deserves all the hate it gets.

[@MikesMonsters]

Completely agreed!

[@chrishateley5582]

But what role would Sharlto Copley play?

[@MikesMonsters]

He said he'd enjoy playing a xenomorph!

[@Ryglado]

I was all-in on Bloomkamp directing but not writing.

[@MikesMonsters]

He is a fantastic director, but his writing is the opposite. And he seemed too set on his own ideas to budge away from them.

[@vampi_vamp]

I'm glad this never got produced.

[@MikesMonsters]

Agreed!

Who cares about the timeline, just make good movies or spinoffs that have the dark, gritty and helpless felling that the first two movies have.

[@MikesMonsters]

The thing is, the ideas in this one may not have made for a good movie. Even if it were gritty.

[@Hoschie-ww7io]

I still believe they should make a film of River of Pain.

[@MikesMonsters]

That would be very interesting!

[@tenforward715]

Some things are best left in the past; they can never recreate the magic and wonder of our beloved movies/TV Series’s that we grew up watching in the 70s, 80s and 90s. My imagination is all I rely on now days. I’m far from caring about remakes, prequels or sequels, because I’ve been burnt too many times, and incorrectly labelled as something because I did not agree nor confirm to a modern take.

[@BlueMarsalis]

Alien Isolation's great, Prey's great, and Romulus will be great. It just depends upon the people.

[@jazzyblade1631]

It could just be me, but I think with enough rewrites Blomkamp’s film could work, though instead of it being an alternate sequel to Aliens, have it be a sequel to William Gibson’s Alien 3. After all his script closely dealt with the same type of company conspiracy with the Aliens as the proposed concept for Blomkamp’s film. Plus since Hicks is shown to play a major part of this film, you could work around his arc from Gibson’s script to have him coincide with Ripley’s arc.

[@_GeneralMechanics_]

Moreover, he doesn't have to have *Ellen* Ripley as the protagonist either. Since Alien Isolation has been considered canon, they could bring in Amanda in her place.

[@MikesMonsters]

They would have had to do some serious heavy rewrites to make Blomkamp's movie to work, to the point where it likely wouldn't have been his idea any more and he wouldn't have wanted to make it. There was some seriously messy stuff in his ideas. A few rewrites may not have saved it.

[@TheCosmicFireStar]

In ways these ideas are absurd but in another perspective intriguing, could've been atrocious, could've been solid it's a question how it's executed. We've had our share of mediocre Alien movies that other fans have found value in and the franchise has kept going. Was half and half about the retcon decision, partly due to it being hard to make a satisfying continuation to Alien3 and Resurrection after how those films are regarded, the continuity was already thrown into split timelines with Williams Gibson's treatment being adapted into a comic and audio drama. Some fans lament this movie didn't happen whereas others are relieved. Theres a guarantee there will be other later Alien Legacy Sequels Reboots in the future, some films will be mediocre others will be competent. Like this Xenomorph itself it's endures.

[@Jerry98x]

Back then I was interested in this Alien 5 and I used to think that it was a shame it got canceled, mainly because I loved the concept arts. But this whole ship thing with the human DNA is possibly one of the worst ideas I've ever heard of and honestly I'm happy that nothing like this has materialized. Some people hated on the prequels because they wanted Neill Blomkamp's Alien and the whole blah blah blah about Covenant blocking it. Many of them always had the presumption of saying what the Alien franchise should and should not be about, sometimes claiming that the ideas and the concepts of the prequels were bad (LOL). Kinda hilarious after hearing all of this about Alien 5! With that said, I'm excited about Romulus because the atmosphere is closer to that of the first Alien, which is something I absolutely adore. Then I would love to see Covenant's sequel because David's story deserves a more fleshed out conclusion. It won't happen, but I still have some hope.

[@MikesMonsters]

Glad to have enlightened you! I'd love to see David's story wrapped up as well. I think Romulus will tie up some things for fans once they've all been able too see it.

[@BlueMarsalis]

Alien³ once again proves itself to be the best outcome.

[@0311uli]

I agree since this Aliens2 would have just imploded the entire universe. We had enough with the fans forcing Fox and Scott to course correct Prometheus and we got that dumpster fire with Covenant, but this oh no, this would have been far worse. Glad that Alien³ survived and fight for another day.

[@peterkrochmalni673]

The death of Hicks and Newt is the best outcome? What is wrong with you?

[@Right_Said_Brett]

100% The Assembly Cut is a f-ing masterpiece and I will die on that hill!

[@0311uli]

@@peterkrochmalni673seeing Gibson script and now what Blomkamp wanted to do. Yeah it was the best thing to happen since it’s obvious there’s nothing new to be said with those characters. Instead used them to destroy the extended universe. Yea no.

[@manfmalachi]

Alien 3 is amazing. I'm still so glad they made that movie

[@johnb9814]

Easiest casting ever. Mary Winstead as Ripley. Done. Anything else?

[@MikesMonsters]

If you only knew how close we got to that...

[@tacoborg7088]

This movie would have been great if it was an alien rippoff, rather then alien 5

[@MikesMonsters]

A big "DO YOU REMEMBER!?" party of a movie.

[@sdwone]

We're STILL banging on about this!? Let it lie man! For better or for worse, things have moved on! And we have a new film coming up anyway... Which COULD be.... COULD be... A good Alien film for once!!!

[@MikesMonsters]

I think fans will dig what Romulus has to offer once they can feast their eyes on it.

[@nazmisuhaimi847]

Hope they turn this into comic book like Alien 3 unmade script that consist Hicks as main character.

[@MikesMonsters]

Completely agreed!

[@0311uli]

Knowing how devisive Covenant was for offing Shaw and the Engineers and having David created a sect of Xenos, to Neil coming in and not only tossing what Scott did, but now have the derelict being made from human DNA and by that ruining the extended universe oof...I can see why Fox pulled the plug here and glad they did that since we gain Ripley back at the cost of destroying the extended universe...oh no lol!

[@danielwoods3563]

If you remove the fan-service comebacks of Ripley, Hicks and Newt, what did this movie offer? Take away those character resurrections, and you’re left with a hot mess, which sounds like an incoherent mish mash of Aliens, District 9 and Chappie.

[@0311uli]

@@danielwoods3563 exactly and a horrible at it. Chappie truly shat da bed here. Watched it opening weekend thinking alright let’s see what he’s cooking here. My gawd that was a train wreck from the script to the editing. I thought they gave this clown the reigns to Alien. But thank goodness that film bombed since we would have gotten a dumpster fire with whatever this was going to be.

[@MikesMonsters]

Yep, I was shocked to learn about the DNA aspect. Especially with all of his talk of taking it back to what fans wanted and correcting things. That to me, threw everything out the window and made it much worse than what we had been given from previous films and the prequels.

[@williamblakemore6330]

Love Blomkamp but yh this film doesn't sound like my cup of tea for a big film anyway. Wouldn't mind for a comic version as he did put good work into the project so I do feel he deserves his story to be told.

[@MikesMonsters]

I say bring on a comic version.

[@WhosNick]

Still sad we didn't get to see this love Neill's work!

[@BlueMarsalis]

I think we dodged a death of the intellectual property.

[@TheCosmicFireStar]

38:38 the follow up to Alien Covenant could potentially have been called Alien Destiny? There were vague reportings that confused whether Ridley’s next entry would’ve been called Alien Awakening or if that was the title for Blomkamp’s unmade film. Was Alien Destiny a place holder or just a potential working title?

[@jetsetwilly2972]

Na this alien 5 was gonna be the best alien movie since 86, all out action packed with the old cast but no we got a bunch of kids running around space screaming and the fact Neil was going forward where Ridley is going backwards and in between

[@MikesMonsters]

So you think the derelict ship being found out to be made out of human DNA by the Xenomorphs is a step forward?

[@jasonleveck8546]

Ridley Scott hasn't made a good movie since "Kingdom of Heaven", which is coming up on 20 years.

[@BlueMarsalis]

The Martian and The Last Duel beg to differ friend.

[@jasonleveck8546]

@@BlueMarsalis Martian was a flop and the "last duel" was nothing but a vapid attack against men and this phony idea of patriarchy and that men are basically evil. Fuck those movies.

[@BlueMarsalis]

Alien films are literally about being anti-capitalist and anti-patriarchy lol

[@MikesMonsters]

Ehhh, I can't really agree with that one. But we all have different tastes. But Blomkamp's movie wouldn't have been the franchise refresh fans wanted. It would have likely put it in the grave.

[@jasonleveck8546]

@@BlueMarsalis LOL, if you think Weyland Yutani represents capitalism, then you better start listening to or reading other sources of information. Otherwise, you're exactly the guy the stalinists are always looking for.

[@TheMightyCookieShow]

I still want this film! Why can't we have this? They're doing everything and anything why not just do this as well cuz everybody wants to see it? And Neal is one of those guys that I wish hollywood would rubber stamp about anything he might want to do.

[@BlueMarsalis]

I am glad it got cancelled.

[@MikesMonsters]

I think Neill wasn't too keen on changing some of his whacky ideas, like the derelict ship from the first movie being made out of human DNA by Xenomorphs. He doesn't seem as open to outside ideas.

[@BKBEDSTUY]

We need an Alien tv series that’s absolutely terrifying

[@MikesMonsters]

I think we will be getting that with the new series coming next year!

[@BlueMarsalis]

Noah Hawley and Fede Alvarez have both called the first three Aliens all great films. So it is certainly in good hands now.

[@T--kq3pj]

lol, yeah right, because if anything, that is what guarantee a success

[@MikesMonsters]

Because they are smart men!

[@WeylandYutaniCorp91]

Well, first I wanna say, I've campaigned for years of an Alien film that retcons Alien3 & Alien Resurrection, because I never liked those sequels, only Alien & Aliens, before you say it, I've seen the Alien3 special edition, it didn't change my mind. I've also campaigned on an Alien film that would see the return of the Ripley, Hicks, Newt, and Bishop, in fact I've actually made an animated trilogy on the subject on my channel which I spent 5 years of my life on. The animation is terrible, but I gave five of years of my life to I wouldn't trade for the world. As for Blomkamp's Alien 5, it might've been weird, but I'm sure they could've taken all the weird stuff out of it and made into a cool movie, the storyboard seemed to suggest that Wey-Yu had found the Derelict on LV-26 and moved it to their headquarters at Wey-Yu Tower on Earth. Ripley, Hicks, Newt, and Bishop had found out about this and decided to infiltrate the tower and destroy the Aliens environmentalist-style, hence the bomb that was strapped to Ripley's in the storyboard. I even have a name for it, XCF, Xenomorph Countermeasure Force, which I had thought of for one of my drafts when I was writing my trilogy. Anywho, the mission goes south and the Aliens get loose, so Ripley locks down the tower to prevent the Aliens from escaping onto the planet. So our heroes and villains team up and must escape the building and destroy it before can Aliens escape. I also thought, maybe there's some kind of interstellar war going on, hence the South Korean soldier, that makes Wey-Yu want to use the Aliens to sell in arms race this war has sparked.

[@BlueMarsalis]

This was going to be shit, just like every sequel to Aliens not named Alien³ and you know that to be true, this film wanted to fundamentally change Alien and humanise the otherness out of it.

[@paulodisho6357]

@WeylandYutaniCorp91 I couldn’t agree with you more. I was so excited for Alien 5 to be made. As it never happened I count Aliens as the true ending as Ripley, Newt, Hicks and Bishop were on their way home to Earth. Alien 3 and Resurrection were Ripley’s nightmares during hyper sleep. Those two films in my opinion were abominations.

[@RandomBradCreator]

Excellent Work , Cheers 🍻

[@MikesMonsters]

Thank you so much for watching, Brad!

[@RandomBradCreator]

@@MikesMonsters thank You 😉

[@TheBaldMrM]

After heading your commentating and seeing all the information, I think it was good Blomkamp’s idea never went through. I don’t he was the right guy for the film, unlike Fede who really has the background and strength for this series.

[@MikesMonsters]

I think people will be grateful we got Fede's project over Neill's, thought it sucks Blomkamp went through so much to ultimately get nowhere. Thanks for watching!

[@TheBaldMrM]

@@MikesMonsters keep up the good work man. Appreciate your videos and commentary. Looking forward your commentary on Alien Romulus.

[@MikesMonsters]

@@TheBaldMrM I definitely have more for that lined up for the coming months. Stay tuned, and thanks for being here!

[@knowthispodcast9182]

He had Sigourney and Michael on board, plus even though I hate Ridley Scott, he was going to be producing, probably lending his Scott Free Films. You had the fans up in arms about it. They wanted it badly, and we would've loved to have seen what happened after Aliens instead of watching Ripley get tortured and destroyed in Alien 3. Neil's passion for the franchise and the first two movies would've made him more than a confident and competent director. Ridley Scott threw a bunch of salt in the game with his pole. He pushed 20th Century Fox to back out of this, and then it was just more salt in the wound when Ridley Scott's stupid movie Alien: Coincidence failed at the box office, which was also a terrible film. Did you know that Ridley Scott did that film just to sandbag Neil's Alien 5? That was confirmed. Alien 5 would've been a lot better than all the other crap we got. I'm not saying that the new Alien Romulus is going to be bad, but what happened to Alien 5 was a crime. It would have given the fans of James Cameron's action horror classic a good sendoff, even if it was a bad film, which I doubt it would have been, especially with all the passion behind it. Another reason why he didn't get a chance to direct Alien 5 was because of how Chappie did at the box office. I actually liked it, but for some reason, a lot of people couldn't get around those two dumbasses who played the lead anti-heroes. Yes, they were annoying, but Chappie was OK. Now sadly, in current canon, Newt and Hicks died terribly. The amount of story that could've been pulled from this little family, but was destroyed by the studio, is insane. I remember where I was when I heard that there was going to be an Alien 5 with Michael returning. I was in my jeep on the freeway, and when I heard it on a podcast, I went crazy. And then when I heard it wasn't going to be made, and then Ridley Scott's Alien Confused came out, I remember wanting to leave the theater halfway in. It should've been called Alien Fassbender. It was not right what they did to this Director he showed great potential for this franchise, but will never know the world that James Cameron created is what people want and it sells. People were excited about aliens, colonial marines, and they were amused by alien isolation. Once again, Cameron got the ladder treatment for some reason. Fox is indifference to Cameron's world, which is strange because it brought them a lot of money.

[@stefanrackhamroach9300]

Yhh I recon that’s the reason it got cancelled it was probably shite

[@PeteFD1986]

Very difficult to make it through all of this due to the plain disrespect I’m hearing from Blomkamp regarding Alien 3. To have the audacity to come along and try to make a film which wipes #3 from canon with the SAME lead actor is crazy. I’m not denying his talent in filmmaking, clearly he’s very skilled. But this idea comes across like a teenager who didn’t get his own way. Say what you want about Alien 3 but it’s a very powerful and definitive ending for Ripley. I actually think the film holds up better than Aliens and I know I’m not the only one who feels that. Excellent cast, amazing visuals, I think given what went on behind the scenes we got was a stunning movie

[@earthcitizen3939]

I didn't care for Newt and Hicks, alien has never been about happiness and family, so screw that. Either kill Ripley, Newt, or Hicks but don't keep all of them. Alien 3 is my favorite even though some people dislike it.

[@Jerry98x]

Alien³ isn't even a bad movie! Maybe the theatrical release... but the Assembly Cut is definitely a good movie.

[@alk7393]

Rose coloured glasses.

[@peterkrochmalni673]

THAT was the only reason to love the idea of Blomkamp’s ALIEN movie. The total erasure of alien3, and resurrection as a bonus.

[@allmightyvids543]

Alien 3 is trash I'm sorry but it serves no purpose.... they should of all died at the end of aliens if that's what the studio wanted... , William Gibsons original script was better . And then we wouldn't have had resurrection either , just my opinion though.

[@fadyedits8681]

These Aliens2 fans man ughhh. This franchise is not everyone childhood dream of living happily ever after If you sad that Newt and Hicks are gone get over that shit and grow up honestly it's only those Aliens2 fans that is destroying this franchise with there wet dreams about Ripley and Hicks living happily ever after raising Newt like this is not a Disney show it suppose to be dark and brutal and I'm happy with what the sequels have brought and the only thing I hated about Prometheus and Covenant was the futuristic taste and abandoning the retro aesthetic of the original regardless that I liked those movies.

[@MikesMonsters]

Romulus brings back the dark and brutal that I think fans have been hoping for. Blomkamp's project would have been a wild messy ride, and not in a fun way.

[@fadyedits8681]

@@MikesMonsters hope Romulus turns to be good and totally agree about blomkamp messy view for the franchise

[@MikesMonsters]

@@fadyedits8681 I think fans are gonna have a fun time with Romulus. ;)

[@fadyedits8681]

@@MikesMonsters I hope so

[@lordvlygar2963]

Oof, looks like Fox did the right thing and released the lesser of two evils. I don't know. I think the legacy sequel that Alien needs is the story on earth where they finally openly show that Blade Runner and Alien are in the same universe. Or, or, we can do the right thing and just stay with the first 3 movies. Everything else is just more silly fun that dilutes the integrity of the trilogy.

[@MikesMonsters]

Fox did the right thing, which is a weird thing to type out.

[@archangel0891]

I was never on board. Eliminating Alien 3 is a big no-no. Despite Finchers distain, the ending is the gem. Ripley DIES taking down the xenomorph. The queen births from her and she wraps her hands around it taking it down to its demise. NBs movie appeared too left field and essentially bins Alien3. Glad it didnt happen.

[@MikesMonsters]

We definitely dodged a bullet to the head for the franchise losing this project. That's for sure.

[@eustacequinlank7418]

Fellow farted in the Instagram elevator then got out. I think what he did was pretty cynical and a really, really p**s poor example of trying to get a movie off the ground through internet fan anointed hype and approval. Manipulative. Giving fan news circuits the idea they have some form of control or final say rather than the filmmakers as if they cast Christian Bale in Batman Begins or the like. Given the online vibe you mention and rather unreasonable hate trains that developed (I really do understand the criticism, however), you really won't see a conclusion to what was a pretty decent alien side story with David I suspect. Although, you would still likely be seeing a similar expansion of the series as it has taken with new books, games and other filmed stories since, because of those two films. What a waste. That's 'fan power'... It's what gave us AvP.

[@MikesMonsters]

His methods were certainly suspicious and raised my eyebrow a few time when compiling all the information for the video.

[@iguanatrader3781]

The biggest draw of Alien 5 is that it was unproduced, and people can project their ideas and feelings onto it, thinking it would solve all of their issues that they have with the franchise. In reality the movie could have killed the franchise harder than any other sequel/prequel ever could have.

[@MikesMonsters]

Agreed! Just because you want it, it might not be good for you!

[@CarolinaguynTX]

Prometheus and Covenant have never grown on me. Ridley Scott should stay out of future Alien projects. I know it's his "baby", but somewhere along the line he lost touch. The "David" character was the worst, don't care about him, good riddance. Prometheus at least had some potential, but Covenant was written so idiotically and with such a lack of intelligence that the writers responsible should stay away from anything more complicated than a "Twilight" sequel going forward.

[@Armagedd0n]

I agree. Another example is Terminator, James Cameron's baby, but he fully supported the last 2 shitty sequels. I now think that they consciously make bad movies to harm such series. I can't think of anything else.

[@MikesMonsters]

I like David... He's one of the few things I actually like in the prequels. He's an awesome android addition to the franchise. Where they took him in the plot is another story though.

[@maxdunord2451]

Blomkamp's ideas for a new Alien movie are so poor (it would never be Alien 5 from obvious reasons). The lad had done D9 and after that all was pretty shitty, he can't write a good story anymore. There is a proper sequel to Aliens, it was released in 1992 and it's called Alien³. Is he done with a new version of Robcop 2 too (as he didn't like the actual R2). Pathetic.

[@MikesMonsters]

Agreed! He seems to have a thing for "correcting" franchises he thinks went wrong. But his opinion is not the same as all the other fans, and I think we got lucky that his project never saw the light of day.

[@TETRARCHJeffUnstableFreak]

I wonder if Neil bloomkamp is pissed that a new Alien movie is being made now by Fede Alvarez and not him? As much as I like Neil's ideas about bringing back Ripley Newt and Hicks I trust that Fede Alvarez will do a better job with Alien Romulus and his vision

[@user-mk5ui7ij1d]

Нет этот фильм с треском провалится как и Прометей и завет

[@MikesMonsters]

I don't think Neill is happy about the franchise in general at this point.

[@stevenfraser81]

Great video but having seen how bad every movie Blomkamp has made post District 9, I'm glad he didn't get to make Alien 5. It would have been crap and would have done further damage to the brand after how bad Covenant was too. I have way more faith in Fede Alvarez than a guy who hasn't made a good movie since 2009.

[@MikesMonsters]

Thank you for watching! I completely agree with you!

[@VindensSaga]

I think it was good that this never happened, if it was basically District 9 but with aliens, I am more than happy that this never came out.

[@MikesMonsters]

Same here! I agree completely.

[@MrJojoringo]

Meh he's just a very average director, District 9 was a one hit wonder

[@cheap_clips]

He's got something that nobody has, some SciFi futuristic brutal emotional vision, I like all his movies but that one about demonic possession. District 9 has still the best special effects after the Avatar movies, plus the gore, I'd like to see his alien movie, it'd be at least better than Prometheus and Covenant.

[@Anamnesis]

Mixed feelings on Blomkamp. Obviously a talented filmmaker, but even his good stuff always feels like it's missing beats or lacking resolution. If the weird ideas about the retroconned derelict and xenomorph exoarmor are factual and not just some misinterpreted detail, it wouldn't surprise me. He goes out on a limb with crazy ideas but doesn't take the audience along in the way someone like Cameron does with relatable characters and quippy dialog to guide audiences through his ideas. Throw in the ego pissing match with Scott and the Fox fallout and it's doomed. What the franchise needs is a quality character driven story with a fresh take on the material that isn't trying to just live under the shadow of Scott and Cameron with pandering fan service by regurgitating their imagery. Recent entries may have been flawed films, but at least they were trying a novel approach. I suspect Romulus will be the inverse of that: not as flawed, but also not original either, because it's just another love letter to Scott and Cameron. It's like these films can literally only be either completely derivative or completely peculiar, but can't do both at the same time. Who knows, maybe Hawley can deliver something that is both fresh and cohesive for once...

[@MikesMonsters]

Completely agreed!

[@earthcitizen3939]

This seems terrible, thank F they didn't make this and retconned Alien 3. Alien 3 is 10 times better than what this seems likely to have turned into.

[@peterkrochmalni673]

And doesn’t alter the fact alien3 is a franchise killer.

[@Right_Said_Brett]

@@peterkrochmalni673 Um... they made another 5 movies with the alien in it, following Alien 3's release. How is that a "franchise killer"?

[@peterkrochmalni673]

@@Right_Said_Brett all prequels. Nothing set after the alien3 or resurrection timelines. The franchise comes to an end after alien3 with nowhere to go. So, the simple answer is that in order for the franchise to move forward they have to erase alien3 and make a new third movie.

[@Right_Said_Brett]

@@peterkrochmalni673 But... Resurrection followed Alien 3, so no; it was not a "franchise killer". Also, why do seem to think that the studio can't make an Alien movie without Ripley (in fact, there's literally such a movie coming out in August)?

[@peterkrochmalni673]

@@Right_Said_Brett “Resurrection” 😆 oh wait, you’re serious. Let me laugh even harder 😂 😂 😂

[@theshallowsouls2047]

Make this shit happen now....

[@D88niel]

So Ridley Scott is the one who got in the way, fox had all the cards on him but he failed, it's Kinda sad when we see what a terrible job Ridley did with Prometheus and Alien Covenant. awful awful movies They made alien 3 and alien resurrection look like Shakespeare. honestly id rather have one Neill Blomkamp ALIENS sequel than 2 Ridley Scott prequels, to much faith and religion garbage for my taste, just bad movies overall.

[@MikesMonsters]

In the video I explained that it wasn't Ridley, but Fox that pulled the plug. Ridley wasn't involved much.

[@HoDLum]

so basically, Ridley Scott killed the project so his crappy Covenant could go forward,

[@martynstembridge7714]

Yup.

[@jakicevic]

*Fox

[@desanc33]

It’s such a shame that we got the generic horror turd that was covenant

[@MikesMonsters]

Luckily Romulus is correcting that one's wrongs.

[@JohnSmith-pj6wb]

crazy how this movie would have done as well as top gun 2 and made them so much money but cancelled it and decided to make the other crap ones no one even remembers and made crap compared to what this could have made... and now theyre going even lower making an aliens movie with teens lol...no we didnt want teens or stupid movies with hardly any actual xenomorphs like weve known them... what we want is this...and space marines ffs why is this so hard for hollywood

[@MikesMonsters]

They aren't teenagers in the new movie. They're mid to late twenties, which are adults. Just younger ones. Sigourney was in her late twenties in the first ALIEN. You wanted the derelict ship from ALIEN to be found out to be made out of human DNA BY Xenomorphs thanks to Neill Blomkamp?

[@martynstembridge7714]

This human DNA making the Derelict thing needs much more explanation really ... We'll probably never get it, but just one sentence about it doesn't really help us to wrap our brains around it. I always thought the ship seemed biomechanical, so maybe the concept was linked to that. But the problem would be the Space Jockey and his 'chair' ... Did the Aliens hire the big guy to fly their ship around the Galaxy? It's an unusual revelation, but not enough to make me less angry that we will never get to see Neill's vision.

[@thedailycontrarian]

What a tedious video. I need a nap

[@MikesMonsters]

I needed like 5 naps after working on it. So I feel this.

[@SoniListon-lu4cn]

This theme cant be milked anymore. Someone should do what they did in the late 70s, that is, to find talented people to come up with sth new.

[@theshallowsouls2047]

I changed my mind. Don't make it. Seems like it wouldn't have gone the way fans wanted

[@MikesMonsters]

A big switch! Glad to have helped inform you!

[@naleparyan]

ROMULUS is gonna bomb, big time... as will that TV Series in 2025... for more reasons than 1... and NOT the least of which is because BOTH Directors are AWFUL

[@MikesMonsters]

Have ye little faith? I can promise you, they're better than what Blomkamp would have made.

[@gold333]

Upvoted this video and downvoted it at the last 5 minutes

[@MikesMonsters]

Don't shoot the messenger! The downvotes don't help the creator! I was just sharing the information, it wasn't my ideas. :D

[@Khultan]

Ridley Scott's crappy stories.

[@MikesMonsters]

Neil's idea of the derelict ship from ALIEN being made out of human DNA by xenomorph saliva wasn't much better...

[@Khultan]

@@MikesMonsters Thank you.

[@knowthispodcast9182]

Scott is an Ego monster 😡

[@martynstembridge7714]

I never believed what Ridley said regarding just a ten page treatment and brief chats with Fox .... Neill clearly had invested a LOT of time and preparation into this movie, and I believe he was given a green light at one point ... just too many people mentioned how excited they were to start making it. Ridley probably felt it would undermine his Prometheus story, and slapped his giant dick down on the Fox table - demanding that Neill's movie be canned. He was terrified that a FAR superior Alien movie would get the fans buzzing, and it would kill interest in his 'David' trilogy. I would have LOVED to see this made ... as I think it was the BIG ambitious movie this franchise needed to bring it to life once again. The sequel to Aliens that we dreamed about as kids.

[@RoaryUK]

Blomkamp is nothing more than an Aliens fan boy who would have retconned everything after that movie and Fox were right to pull the plug. Never going to happen end of!

[@choronzon69]

😂 Far superior? Juggernauts grown from human DNA? 😂 Dude it was horrible fan fiction and you're making wild assumptions. Scott just came off the hugely successful The Martian and Covenant was already in pre-production. Chappie was a failure critically and commercially, it was obvious who Fox were going to back.

[@danielvargas6414]

Provably the only good Alien movie who deserves being produced. SAD.

[@MikesMonsters]

Even with the weird ideas he had like the derelict ship from ALIEN being made out of human DNA by the xenomorph's saliva?

[@OffensiveAtheist]

Instead of "Alien 5" you get "The Acolyte" The real horror story is what Disney would have "changed"

[@MikesMonsters]

Disney wasn't involved in the project at all, or would have been if this film had actually come out. The buyout happened way later than this one's intended release date. Plus, they didn't pull punches for Romulus. It's far from tame.

[@thomasjohnson5377]

I’m so upset that blomkamp didn’t make this film is pisses me off fox E F’ed this up F Fox.

[@MikesMonsters]

You like the crashed derelict ship from ALIEN being made out of human DNA by Xenomorphs?

[@UpFromTheDepths88]

Yeah not really a fan of that last plot point you revealed 🫤

[@MikesMonsters]

Yep, it was an immediate "EW! NO!" from me once I was given that information.