Aliens

[@IrvingIV]

"Do you not believe in aliens?" "I believe in their orphaned servants."

[@YogsenForfoth]

That’s actually metal as hell.

[@yaloms.guerra2447]

@@YogsenForfoth literally

[@RetroCube]

This goes hard feel free to screenshot

[@Seifer1228]

This needs to be a movie plot stat!

[@PastaAivo]

Orphaned Creations of the Star Gods

[@cale0176]

"Collecting data for no one" was an existential dread I didn't need at 1:30am

[@Kino_pup]

@@cale0176 well.. that’s the nature of the universe if you take away all emotion while examining everything. We are pretty much alone and likely won’t get off the planet nor should we for reasons. We most definitely won’t leave the solar system. Humans will not be a space faring species. There will be no Star Trek humans piloting ships… or making decisions.. ai will be the ones to travel. We are ape people that evolved to live on planet earth. The consequences of leaving would cause untold damage to our physiology and minds and our instinctual norms. We don’t need to anyway.. “but there’s too many people! We need to go to other planets!” No we don’t.. who says we do or that we should?.. we need to get our population back to normal levels that doesn’t break the balance of nature. We are ape people meant to live as ape people.. meaning we need to live more in line with our biological norms with nature. Less technology.. technology rips away our biological,gendered, and environmental norms over time rather quickly. We didn’t evolve to have the internet.. our species isn’t compatible with infinite technology.. There is no greater form we are trying to reach in our evolution.. we don’t need to evolve in to something else.. we are fine how we are. We are this way for a reason.. and that reason has kept us alive. The more you tear away the natural selection process, the more our evolution gets watered down to nothing. Now nothing is being selected for damn near. We certainly aren’t cultivating smarter humans.. our ancestors way back in the dawn of man used their brains more than we do. They weren’t dumb.. now our critical thinking has been steadily offloaded to technology. Smarter machines get made.. humans lose critical thinking skills along the way. We need to go back to living more “primitively”. It’s more in line with our evolution. Which in turn will make us happier because our genes want us to live that way. This attempt to continually progress technology is for nothing.. in all likelihood it will kill us over time. We can all live perfectly happy lives by going back to more primitive standards. It’ll have just as much meaning and purpose as any other way. What do we need to go to another solar system for?.. for what purpose? To progress technology further and what?.. “improve our lives?” Improve it how?.. what’s the end point of your “improving?” Until we never die? Get sick? Go through hardship or pain? How tf do you know that’s better for us? That sounds like a great way to completely end evolution.. the thing that got us to existence in the first place.. the thing that needs hardship and suffering to test a species so it can improve it.. We did in fact evolve to like pain and hardship. It gives us purpose and meaning. It makes us happy. We don’t need to take it away.. You’ll be messing with things you can’t even comprehend whether they are better or worse for us in the long run.. If you are choosing things that will help end our species by a swift death or slow uncomfortable pathetic decay.. (wall-e people) then we shouldn’t do that. You do know more and more technology can be very bad for us right? If we go down the eugenics route.. we’re done for. Humans can’t manage ourselves.. especially our own forced evolution.. you’re messing with things you don’t understand.

[@EfTheTank]

Bro for real.

[@ShutterContinent]

1:29am here

[@morphitime]

Yeah...that actually stopped me in my tracks.

[@ninjahaz0180]

Its 1:28 for me right now

[@sayyadinanarysian9635]

For those curious. This concept is called a Von Neumann Probe. Concept was also used in a game called Grey Goo.

[@Maibuwolf]

Its also the first bad take i have seen from thor. He answered that question with the assumption that alien meant intelligent life. Bad thor.

[@stocktonjoans]

this exact concept is the bases for the Bobiverse series of books, very groovy

[@hurry_up_and_wait]

@@Maibuwolfno, it opens the possibility of there being intelligent life. He never says it only has to be intelligent life forms in space. Just assuming the ones allegedly visiting us are.

[@jlp1528]

Don't forget the Horizon series! Guerilla Games took the idea of self-replicating robots and ran with it HARD. Play HZD and HFW. You will not regret it.

[@maevegillespie6911]

⁠@@Maibuwolfso he was asked if he believed in aliens and answered with specifics on the type he believes in. How was that a bad take or somehow overly assumptive of the question?

[@Marchwas]

What if this is the secret lore behind satisfactory. We build the space elevator and collect thousands of resources and valuable data for ficsit. But ficsit isnt actually around anymore. And the robot "ADA" is just an AI programmet to help you do your mission no matter what. Even if ficsit isnt around anymore

[@rewrose2838]

@@Marchwas But isn't ficsit actually sending us stuff in the game ? Like lab reports and whatnot

[@Proud_Knight]

​@@rewrose2838To be fair, I haven't beaten the game yet, so I don't know for sure. But everything I've interacted with has been fully automated. Even the awesome shop seems to act like a vending machine, which could be restocked by drones and supplied by other pioneers.

[@MrBishop077]

I just viewed it as a semi-organic Von Neumann machine.

[@wardissolver]

It pretty much is

[@satisfictionary0699]

I like this. It makes PERFECT sense. We know other engineers have been to the planet from the crashed drop pods. ADA already has all the answers, we just need to ask the questions. Not only is there nothing "human" about FICSIT, some of ADA's lines seem to suggest that ADA has no memory of a living, populated earth. ADA always speaks like an AI with limited information on human interaction.

[@Denmaverick39]

It's clones making clones

[@deanvangreunen6457]

Terminator's whole plot line but without the time travel bs

[@pmahcgop6693]

Begun the clone wars has

[@ok-ge1f]

decoys making decoys

[@LateSleeper]

Alriight! Real life Geth! Let's go!

[@mrmacca2970]

@@ok-ge1f someone killed a decoy family

[@LastStar007]

"Collecting data for no one" already sums up a lot of human activity.

[@nowonmetube]

And now imagine a second alien colony gathering that information and praying to a weird machine God.

[@BeefZupreme]

Imagine the amount of wealth that data contain…

[@rickman1945]

@@ForgeMakesThings2001 a space odyssey is a similar concept.

[@Orsthos]

Think about it. If earth ever, I don’t know, blow up. All of our history as we know, it goes away forever. Lest we get it out there to another species.

[@senseishu937]

​@@nowonmetube there's a tiny little man in my head

[@lemo8986]

It's called a Von Neumann Probe, for anyone wishing to learn more

[@jakobvanklinken]

"learn" being relative here, it's a sci fi idea

[@kapperbeastYT]

​@@jakobvanklinkenit's still an entirely sensible strategy, space and thus the number of systems and planets increases exponentially around us, not sending robotic probes out ahead of any colonization effort seems stupid at best, and the material they need to take from each system they visit to build 10.000 new probes isn't even a rounding error in the grand scheme of a solar system

[@blueightysix]

also the worst singularity bar the zoo hypothesis, which is pretty much this anyway. literally the paperclip machine theory with a corrupted ai thanks to radiation.. i hope that if that does happen it is actually paperclips and boltzman brains and the end. atleast its funny. heat death sounds grim. i wish i was like u😂 easily amused😢

[@Eeve3_Lord]

BOBIVERSE

[@Xiorx71]

@@Eeve3_Lord YESSSSS

[@mrt1880]

In general a giant network of self-replicating robots honestly sounds like a bad idea and it would be a worse unmonitored

[@HermeticJazz]

No it wouldn't. We get to fight a war against space robots instead of aliens for the existence of our planet and each other. That would be awesome. It would end human v human wars.

[@peterclarke7240]

Except there'd be at least one country that would find a way to side with the aliens in return to be left alone when the dust settles. If there is one constant in the universe, humanity's capacity to betray itself for money, power or survival is probably it.

[@dirkwolf9463]

Depends on how strong their self preservation protocols are.

[@angelnunez6476]

Or if they were told to improve themselves over time. If it’s just making clones they’d never be a threat

[@Xaeguy]

"We've been trying to reach you about your planet's extended warranty."

[@safersephiroth943]

@@spagooter1807 we're not anywhere near that its so "not even close" your post is basically a Michael Scott moment.

[@MoTeC_MasonX]

​@@spagooter1807I agree with you.

[@nickkennedy9034]

the 6th and final book of the Hitchhikers Guide: Following up on a warranty claim about a planet on the outer edge of the Andromeda Galaxy

[@scbtripwire]

We've been trying to contact you to notify you of the interstellar highway we've planned to build. You have 1 week to evacuate your planet, as it is in the way. Have a lovely day!

[@bforster2237]

And you know that bis is expired because this place is falling apart.

[@TheBlackBrickStudios]

I've never seen the concept of a Von Neumann self-replicating probe explained so simply yet eloquently before. Every day I come to respect this man more and more.

[@UnanimousDelivers]

I'm more concerned that anything self-replicating will lead to, let's say, a paperclip problem.

[@juliandacosta6841]

Von Neumann probes, the paperclip theory, and grey goo should be treated the same as the 3 laws of robotics. Fun for fictional stories, but they are ultimately the result of people dreaming up ways that organic life could eradicate itself, so take it with a very small grain of salt.

[@a_lethe_ion]

@@juliandacosta6841 yeah no need to dream that up, we are on the way of doing that by collapsing the oceans warm and coldwater cycles in 2-50 years with a propabiliy around 60% that it happens before 2050, leading to america overheating, euooe getting a small ice age bc of cold water unflow from the pole, csausing a local cold dip and effectlively turning germany, france, poland, ukraine into a climate of norway etc. mass hunger yay

[@Bubble-Foam]

@@juliandacosta6841 A lot of pop science “theories” really are just people dreaming up things that “make sense” in their heads, when there’s no actual basis for them to be true.

[@ZoeyTG]

It is a fantastic concept. Great book series based on that called The Bobiverse. I do think there is value in discovering probes and a network like Thor describes. We'd be able to potentially track it back to its origin and learn a lot off the probes.

[@Changingtesting]

As an astronomy major this outcome was expected but the line “collecting data for no one” hit surprisingly hard

[@techpriest6962]

A species that can not survive once it hits the space age is underserving of our concern. Imagine being that weak of a species that you have a world at your fingertips and still fail to reach beyond it.

[@tango33w]

@techpriest6962 Depends, if their "weakness" was due to a star eating organism rampaging through the galaxy then weak is relative.

[@Changingtesting]

@@techpriest6962the idea is that the species outlives itself. We humans are destined for greatness but how much of that greatness can we achieve before taking ourselves out.

[@louthinator]

thing is, it might not even be true, with the universe being 13 billion years old, a red dwarf star taking about 7-10 billion years to burn out, out sun being about 4.5 billion years old, and the materials for the accretion disk that made our solar system requiring fusion in a late stage star first, that means we are likely one of the first forms of intelligent life in the universe... The star before our sun must have formed at the very beginning of the universe, lived its full cycle, died, then our sun formed immediately after just to meet the current schedule. We could be one of the first civilizations to conquer the stars.

[@empressjessica5020]

@@techpriest6962 its not weakness, whats weak is lack of ability to understand how massive, vast, and lethal this universe is for ANY life form. including non life forms at that. thats the real weakness. inability to grasp reality

[@PuissantPeacock]

Thor, this is one of the most brilliant suppositions I've ever heard, and thanks for sharing it! I laughed but I also thought, "He has a good point!" But, I also caught your "underlying" message for those that ask, "are there aliens?" Your point, "STOP WORRYING ABOUT IT! THEY'LL CONTACT US WHEN THEY'RE READY IF EVER!" ROFL!

[@tobyinthebox]

Me: "Do you not believe in aliens?" Thor - "NieR: Automata"

[@jacobg8640]

Exactly what I was thinking of

[@halodragonmaster]

Shut

[@DrMario-]

@@halodragonmasterno

[@swagmoneybuge]

Would

[@necr0danc3r29]

My first thought was Brainiac.

[@Atomic0534v2]

to anyone wondering, the prob system Thor was explaining is called "Von Neumann probe". there is a really good book series about a sentient Von Neumann probe called "the Bobiverse". would highly recommend the audiobook version

[@Vampboy37]

I was hoping someone would mention "The Boooooob"

[@matthewjohnson8034]

I can not agree more with this comment. More people have to know about this incredible series.

[@schatzgoblin9787]

Thanks... just got the 4 book series of bobiverse

[@The_Diginaut]

Beat me to it lol

[@johno1544]

Also the Berserker series by Fred Saberhagen deals with a version of these probes programmed to wipe out life on habitable planets

[@michaelrobertson4298]

As soon as he mentioned the self-replicating probes, Universal Paperclips memories came flooding back.

[@blakethesnake6686]

Everybody always act like they efficient until the value starts drifting

[@ragnarrocksoft9096]

Never tought something that looks like spreadsheet could induce existential dread. Boy was I wrong.

[@RookSha]

@@michaelrobertson4298 straight up

[@PYC4985]

We are Legion (we are bob)

[@Satchel_Gizmo]

SAME BRO

[@SmartCreeper456]

"Screw it, let's make our own aliens" -Thor probably

[@jeremiecorkery9421]

Thor describing von neumann probes is a gigachad moment

[@PresidentofAntifa]

I love how many people in here knew the correct term.

[@Bruce_P-Z]

I couldn't remember the name, thank you!

[@doombuggy7331]

The Bobiverse taught us much...

[@ShadowHunter31]

@@jeremiecorkery9421 Or Replicators from Stargate.

[@tk98998988]

@@doombuggy7331 BOOOOOB

[@DuskFlare13]

"Collecting data for no one" Sounds like such a sad movie starring a little probe Edit: For those saddened by this, remember that Nasa sung happy birthday to the curiosity rover, all probes deserve a little love

[@keltone]

Space Robot 5

[@Predated2]

wall-e was pretty close to that

[@traildawg]

Half the robots you find in fallout

[@MactheMinion2014]

Wall-E but the Probe comes back to their home world now turned into a giant graveyard. There is one last message from their creators, saying they are proud of them. It lets out some happy beeps and just sits on their grave, their mission complete, until their batteries finally die. And yes I would blubber like a baby watching this movie

[@crummydegree4374]

Wall-e

[@csquared79]

That's how you get invaded by a robot army. I'm not falling for this again

[@garretthunter2916]

Again? What did you do last time...

[@tomasskala4405]

@@garretthunter2916 Terminator. Don't ask.

[@hynixtrenon3774]

FARO swarm

[@THE-TRUE-Doi]

​@@hynixtrenon3774HADES be like "ima take that"

[@csquared79]

@@garretthunter2916 I'm not on trial here Garrett!!! 🤣

[@ashninjago1491]

Bro just described “The Expanse”

[@sliceofsparta8985]

When you opened Paint, for the briefest of moments, you had a powerful urge to draw the Earth as a box. Do not deny this.

[@RichieKrol]

The firmament

[@PeterGriffin-kb2hf]

This reads so much like something he would say

[@tmsplltrs]

Imagine he draws the earth like a flat line and doesn’t elaborate

[@cattysplat]

The Earth is flat packed.

[@jikal9032]

Aliens drive past and say, "Look, kids. The hood!"

[@jerryfcb1]

*locks spaceship doors*

[@S.T.A.L.K.E.RGothJesus]

Probably more like "look at the barbaric hairless monkey planet kids"

[@silverhawk8699]

Real, we're the ghetto of the galaxy that'll have more advanced beings respond to our comms like "Naaah sorry Earthlings, we don't have any spare credits on us"😂

[@seabass819]

"OK kids windows up!"

[@jlco]

Tom Scott definitely did a video on this concept.

[@danieldlabik4434]

It's five am, i don't need this I stayed awake for this, please let me focus on wheelchair sam

[@mageofchaos]

Bro it's 3 in the morning please stop giving me existential dread

[@captain-commander8138]

@@mageofchaos just watch more thor shorts I'm sure it's mostly good not cursed

[@sinAnon6689]

existential dread? If there is no life in the Universe except for here..with the borderline incalculable size of the universe. You could be standing in the middle of the entire population of earth and feel lonely knowing that looking up...there is nothing there for billions of light years covering an area so large trying to grasp it is nearly impossible and trillions upon trillions of planets across trillions of galaxies. That would be pretty lonely. Because that mean literally nothing is lurking in the night, nothing is happening anywhere else but here. There is nothing walking through the stars like giants. Just us. And given we are a selfish arrogant and ignorant species...yeah...umm not great odds that we won't be the last life in the universe in a short space of time.

[@tommyt414]

Thor has 2 modes, existential dread, or cursed knowledge. Sometimes he combines the two.

[@blackgriffinxx]

Oh! sweetie, you called that existential dread. The real existential dread is asking what level they were at. When they were gone.

[@StyxxOfDidymos]

I also saw the comment mentioning existential dread. I wonder if you're capable of having a original thought or if your whole personality is just you rewording and regurgitating other people's comments.

[@XtremeZero]

Nier Automata plot explained in 30 seconds

[@iguessimaweeaboonow1282]

i hate how accurate thsi is

[@Jordan_C_Wilde]

Only thing missing is us sending our own machines with a thicc a$$ to fight the aliens machines

[@Qaw3n]

@@iguessimaweeaboonow1282 me too because I love the game

[@dawsonpolaris]

Thor over here talking about Von Noyman probes like he just entered the Bobiverse

[@icecold30001000]

f#%#ing excellent book series

[@nataliehanks3308]

Came to the comments looking for a Bobiverse refrence

[@rikutatsu]

@@dawsonpolaris we are Bob, we are legion

[@rabiithous3]

oh my god that series was legendary

[@darianbell9614]

Can't wait for the next book coming out soon

[@habbathejutt5749]

LOVE the plot of the The Expanse Books for that. The Aliens are dead, but their probes still building infrastructure and wants to communicate there succeed to their creators.

[@cc-gg6cd]

This is literally the plot of the replicators in Stargate....

[@carrionwithout_me]

Beat me to it!

[@forcelightningcable9639]

@@carrionwithout_mebeat me too but that won’t stop me

[@turtle_herd5250]

I mean...so far as in they're self replicating machines. But their creation and primary function is entirely different.

[@INTCUWUSIUA]

It's also the plot of Muv-Luv Alternative

[@HeliosLegion]

It's a much more efficient way to colonize the entire galaxy, and even faraway galaxies, rather than sending slow colonizing ships with living subjects too. Send self-replicating probes with DNA data and other tools and you can colonize the entire galaxy, and the rest of the universe, at maximum efficiency.

[@Gizimpy]

"Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying."

[@leagueaddict8357]

Nah, we are not there are bacteria on other planets discovered that alone tells us enough.

[@BierBart12]

This quote always felt off to me. Aren't the implications of us being the only life in the universe much, MUCH more terrifying?

[@MORDKAu]

@@BierBart12I would argue the exact opposite. That means there's trillions of stars for us to colonise with no resistance from sentient species

[@emikochan13]

@@BierBart12 gives us a much greater responsibility to not screw up the universe if it's just us

[@emikochan13]

@@MORDKAu are you forgetting that humans are also resisting humans. Without aliens we'll never unite.

[@JustaBi182]

the delivery of collecting data for no one is so matt smith as the 11th doctor, it’s hard to describe

[@jjrulez1596]

nono, that is a PERFECT description, like, ok, so assuming you've seen (or more accurately remember most likely) it but the bit about "the man who remembers, and the man who forgets, cause some dark quotes from Tennant can apply, but Matt smith's doctor is one who has seen SO much, and just, wants to not, he doesn't want what he knows is going to happen, happen, and so he lies to himself, but when he's confronted with reality, he remembers, and he remembers what he's chosen to forget, things that cause him deep pain, and yet he continues on, because if he doesn't, who will? now granted probably VERY different for thor here, but like, the "life continues on, are you going whether you're here or not, so live for yourself" kinda vibe? idk, im probably going too deep into this, but you said the magic words for my hyper fixation of doctor who lmao

[@mindofwaves4470]

@@jjrulez1596 I for one, am very grateful you gave into your hyperfixation because this is quite a profound insight

[@KronStaro]

"we can make selfreplicating AI robots" "therefore, aliens" wow. so genius, very much.

[@queencepha]

the organic life on the home planet got turned into paperclips 😔

[@blub5117]

Someone is watching isaac too.

[@gamma_draconis9905]

Hey! I got that reference to Aspec!

[@marsmelon24_official]

Stellaris moment

[@TwiliPaladin]

I get the reference.

[@Poldovico]

RELEASE THE HYPNO-DRONES

[@RobKaiser_SQuest]

I thought he was going to explain how northern lights work then he sidetracked into aliens lol.

[@jaxbrown2627]

The question was about aliens?

[@grantbishop1961]

The weed strain for Cali? Northern Lights and Aikopoko Gold from the 1980s were the best strains you could get, man.. it was Farr out if you know what I Mean, young cub. 😅

[@davidma6616]

It wasn't really sidetracking. The introductory mention of the aurora set up the context for why we explore space with robots, which is the same shit aliens would be doing. It's all one cohesive line of thought.

[@lesprentice4816]

@@RobKaiser_SQuest did you not listen to the first words spoken in the video. People like you are why aliens to come here.

[@GangnamStyle33]

This message brought to you by "The Borg"

[@GangnamStyle33]

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[@DigitalWolverine]

@DontReadMyProfilePicture0010bite me.

[@ownageDan]

This message brought to you by John von Neumann ;)

[@LeeCanPotato]

The borg assimilate. This is "The Replicators", which are somehow far, far worse.

[@SuperLifestream]

This message brought to you by the ancients from Stargate

[@lorddouchbag3494]

The alien listening to thor is for sure flabbergasted, how do i know bout dat?dont worry bout it

[@springcougar1]

Basically the plot to "we are legion. We are bob." Outstanding set of novels.

[@Hyraethian]

This is one of my favorite series. I was lucky enough to have listened to the audio book(not something i usually do.) It was a great experience.

[@Pillboxing]

It's an old concept called a von neumann probe

[@D4rk51d332]

@@springcougar1 there's a new bobiverse novel coming out this fall! I'm so excited to see where it goes next!

[@StitchTheFox]

Nooooooo, HOMER!!!

[@joshuahorton3927]

This is how you get a bunch of Bob's running around.

[@Bruce1623]

It's a grate book

[@Dak08]

Haha first thing I thought of

[@swichv64]

Was hoping for this comment.

[@sentientmop317]

Book 5 comes out in like 2 weeks and some change

[@SandbagsYoutube]

I need to listen to these again

[@iammegan6626]

These are called Von Neumann machines Edit: shoutout to everyone I beat too it, we’re all sci-fi nerds ❤

[@kuhljager2429]

Came to post this very thought. Also the source of many of the grey goo scenarios.

[@chrisbarnes3864]

Damn you. Wanted to post that.

[@Malygon]

@@kuhljager2429 There is a cool little idle game called "universal paperclips" which revolves around an AI being task to "maximize paperclip production". It doesn't end well for the universe. Von Neumann machines are involved, too.

[@c.m.173]

Or Von Neumann probes

[@Zachius920]

There is a whole book series about this, the bobiverse series if I remember correctly. Guy named Bob dies and signs up to be a replicant. They stuff him in one and send him out. Really good read

[@swhaw]

*spoilers for The Expanse* This is basically the same example as the alien microorganism in The Expanse, even though I know it's spoilers. The Protomolecule was basically a probe sent out to repurpose biomass to create the ring gates for the ancient race that created it even though the species was long since extinct. It is such a cool premise for scifi, even with an antagonistic force that challenged the ring builders similar to Halo with the Forerunners and the Flood. I love this concept as a way to carry a scifi narrative, we are finally reaching out into the cosmos and all we find are graves/as said in The Expanse "lights on a timer."

[@zermerschern]

Funny thing to comprehend is if an alien about 6 mil years away right now would look at earth, they'd see a t-rex

[@getleansipmoney]

Nope not how light works

[@hailedpython2812]

@@getleansipmoney umm.... but that is how light works?

[@Jweebles]

​@@getleansipmoney... it is though?

[@jo54763]

​@@getleansipmoney Have you ever heard of lightspeed? What do you imagine that word to mean? Surely it has something to do with the distance light can travel in a given amount of time...

[@sagittariusa2145]

@@zermerschern more like 65m+ light years but yeah you get the gist

[@thestudentofficial5483]

Von Neumann probes are basically a robot designed to play Factorio IRL. Yeah let's hope aliens don't find us.

[@DMN1-1]

Factorio is the worst fate for a planet

[@corneliouscook6062]

@thestudentofficial5483 oh dear god, we gonna get wiped like biters

[@tamnker8465]

@@corneliouscook6062 And nukes are the endgame in factorio. We already have them. To a probe like that, nukes would be primitive.

[@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV]

I'd heavily recommend reading "We are legion (We are Bob)." It's about a person who has their head frozen upon death and has been turned into one of these Von Neumann probes.

[@herbieowen3348]

Aka 'We Are Legion, We Are Bob' (great book btw)

[@benogle9549]

@@herbieowen3348 love those books! Was thinking the same thing!

[@exilestudios9546]

Yeah shame it’s sequels sucked so hard especially the newest one

[@W2APS]

@@herbieowen3348 absolutely fantastic audiobooks. 👍

[@ArminHaba]

I currently listen to the third part, one of the best audiobook-series out there

[@dalewylde6201]

We are legion, we are Bob

[@nataliehanks3308]

Ayyyyy

[@onenerdyboi]

Been meaning to read that

[@PinkFlamingo634]

Perfect!

[@ScarfeeEdits]

so basically... the plot of NieR: Automata

[@djbighomiesquatz]

man

[@abstract2756]

DAMN IT I was too late

[@caremond2718]

Finally found the comment 😂

[@Yixdy]

Not really, but sort of. But not really

[@EXE.-.]

After he said "collecting data for noone" I thought the whole idea sounded pretty cool for a movie...I'll have to give this a watch

[@AvisPraeda777]

Fermi paradox. It's either too dangerous for aliens to reveal themselves, or they're all dead.

[@mister_monkey789]

Replicators were the worst antagonists in Stargate and you just made me think about how close we are to creating them… I don’t know how to feel about this

[@CaspersGhost618]

Rather be shredded by a replicator than turned into an ori priest that's for sure

[@Tryforce8000]

I'm curious as to why you think they were the worst antagonists. Is it because they were simple? Essentially soulless machines following their prime directive of multiplying? I could understand that. The Goa'uld and to a lesser degree, the Ori were more complex, even if their goals were pretty simple. I just saw the Replicators as such a formidable foe. Basically because they were machines and couldn't be reasoned with (well, up until the human-form Replicators, but even then it was difficult). And they had no "off" switch; you just had to blast them apart in such a way that they couldn't reassemble themselves. Edit: I just realized I may have interpreted you incorrectly. By "worst", I originally thought you meant "least good", but you may have meant, "most terrifying and/or most formidable". If it's the latter, forget the rest of this. 😅

[@lucius8675]

We should stop building kids' toys just in case.

[@angusmuir6180]

Luckily for us our replicators wouldn't be able to self-assemble after taking damage and they would use much less efficient power sources than scifi particle physics. Much less scary, I think.

[@LeeCanPotato]

@@angusmuir6180 the CEO of Replicators Inc would have taken shortcuts so they could make more profit for themselves, so they'd be flawed anyhow.

[@jamsky1558]

We are legion, we are Bob vibes

[@PYC4985]

great books

[@Nicolas_GE]

bro's just made the stargate replicators

[@sambolton4048]

Came to the comments looking for this

[@jayleevt]

dude right I was like THERE ARE MULTIPLE SCI-FI SHOWS ABOUT WHY THIS IS A BAD IDEA

[@Sharp066]

plz no replicators

[@RetroGameSpacko]

Thor using circles is uncanny.

[@BiganticGalls]

“We are Legion” is a great book about this

[@smellyeggs456]

Mass effect has a whole story arc regarding something I’d guess is quite similar to

[@KindaCarbon]

All hail THE BOB

[@Balefire99]

@@BiganticGalls yes!!!!! Was searching the comments for a mention of this series. There's a new one coming out soon!!!!

[@Will_Forge]

This is one possibility, but on a planet made mostly of silicone instead of carbon could evolve silicone life because they're chemically similar like siblings. But silicates are not as susceptible to radiation.

[@marktheprussian]

I can already smell the Nvidia ads for their new ‘alien grown’ graphics cards 😂

[@blake2861]

@@Will_Forge there are a lot of reasons that carbon is 99.9% of organic life. Carbon/CH chains were vital for life as we know it to exist, silicon doesn't quite have the same capacity for evolution that carbon does, so they'd be limited in size and therefore general ability.

[@visibletoallusersonyoutube5928]

​@blake2861 what's the other 0.01% of life?

[@p_serdiuk]

You could sort of say that the other 0.01% of life are viruses, who aren't strictly speaking a form of organic life, because they do not self-replicate on their own.

[@Stealthydoughnut]

@@Will_Forge carbon is important not just due to its 4 bonds but also due to how many electrons it shares or doesn't share with functional groups such as OH COOH COC etc

[@furiouslyscoped8185]

The Bobiverse is FINALLY HAPPENING

[@DanKlar]

As long as there are no "others"

[@justananonymousperson7011]

As long as there is no nuclear exchange...

[@furiouslyscoped8185]

@@justananonymousperson7011 or orbital bombardment.

[@sleazythebearded]

YOOO finally someone else who has read the books, Bobiverse slaps, can’t wait for the newest to come out

[@blackrockumbra9031]

BOBIVERSE MENTIONED! THANK YOU!

[@godofthecripples1237]

That is somehow one of the most interesting, terrifying, and depressing interpretations of alien visits I've heard ever

[@HexxuSz]

how young are you

[@Metaljacket420]

This is the plot of The Expanse, fantastic show.

[@adotinthecosmos]

Maybe we can convince the bots to serve information to us

[@dyzzee7861]

And that's how we got the shadow government

[@njdaninja1855]

​@DontReadMyProfilePicture0010 Okay, I won't 👍

[@p_serdiuk]

Or they could hack our brains. Wetware has informational vulnerabilities.

[@PastaAivo]

Imagine if the aliens also did their absolute best to encrypt the data and then went extinct. Open source galactic network is what we need!

[@Donnerwamp]

​@@PastaAivoMeh, security by obscurity is a sham and every level of encryption will be cracked over time. We may not be able to make sense of the data once we find it, but no encryption is safe forever and every system has some kind of vulnerability we can find.

[@dreddbullv2]

Basically the story of: "We are legion (We are Bob)"

[@KindaCarbon]

All hail THE BOB So hyped for the next book

[@The_Debonair_Dragon]

a fellow bob Verse enjoyer spotted in the wild.

[@MrFlexNC]

It has been a long time since I heard a new plausible theory about aliens and I'm all here for it man!

[@JeromeMcklansky]

This is one of the best cases I’ve heard made for life in space

[@mastod0n1]

There is almost definitely other life somewhere out there. 100 billion stars in our galaxy, most of them with planets orbiting them (not necessarily in the habitable zone for life as we know it). There's somewhere between 100 billion to 1 trillion galaxies with that many stars. There's life out there. We will never interact with or contact any of them in the time scale of multiple generations. A probe to Proxima Centauri would take many multiple thousands of years to get there and then it's 4 years each way to communicate with it at all.

[@nak3dxsnake]

Thats what I was thinking. First time it didn't sound like science fiction. I wish people understand how unique Earth may actually be. Maybe the only place like it in existence. Or at least the only one we'll ever experience.

[@JeromeMcklansky]

@@nak3dxsnake there probably is “life” elsewhere but earth may be the only intelligent life. The chemicals and building blocks for life came here from somewhere so they are definitely out in the universe. They just may not have come together like this anywhere else. And that’s…..terrifying?

[@Maibuwolf]

No its not. This is the first bad take i have heard from thor. He answered the question with the assumption that aliens meant lifeforms smart enough to make self replicating robots. Aliens includes ANY life outside of our planet. Keeping the size of the universe in mind it is extremely likely that aliens exist. So much so that aliens existing should be the default view of the universe. The only reasonable thing to question is if any of it meets our standards of intellect.

[@steventhomas4499]

​@Maibuwolf Brian Cox has a great quote about this that I'm gonna poorly paraphrase. "Surely life exists besides us, life started almost as soon as it could. But complex life, multicellular organisms, took 1/3 of the age of the universe to develop. That's a very long time for an unbroken chain of events to occur, and it is therefore possible, we are the only complex life to have evolved. In another 3 billion years another might pop up."

[@MrMiftah100]

Robot replicating itself was the very core of Horizon's story.

[@Dathemyr]

I heard self replicating robots and had the same thought. Literally thought "Oh great, the Faro Plague."

[@DiabolicalDilemma_]

Horizons story made me cry it was one of the best storys i have ever seen the cinematicd

[@Plywerd6]

Von Nuemann probes. It's a real cool hypothesesis, and there is a fun sci fi book series that deals with a person's consciousness that was transferred into one. Its called the Bobiverse by Dennis E. Taylor.

[@allenutterback6173]

I came here to say this exact thing 😂

[@ZASchwarz1st]

I really enjoyed this series

[@blackrockumbra9031]

Based Bobiverse enjoyer

[@chevellechris1]

All. Of. This. Great books

[@kin3tic16]

@@allenutterback6173 i said the same. By the way new book coming this september!

[@max-I-am]

Started following for ferrets and programming. Now forever loyal because you mentioned Von Neumann probes. I’m loving this shit.

[@airiserizawa1066]

NieR: Automata writers: You're about, 7 years late

[@lolonoazoro420]

oh thanks for the spoilers

[@airiserizawa1066]

​@@lolonoazoro420this is just the plot man this won't spoil anything in the gameplay trust me

[@kapperbeastYT]

I mean von Neumann probes were proposed over 80 years ago

[@bonnibelio_]

​@@lolonoazoro420not a spoiler play the game NOW!!!

[@decadentia84]

You partially just described the Bobiverse

[@eviljimmy]

This concept is called a Von Neumann probe

[@whatjake7898]

Yes, someone ready said that.

[@eviljimmy]

@@whatjake7898 I think that guy beat me by like a minute 😂

[@Amanverma561]

@@eviljimmy Heard that line somewhere, but with 1 second.

[@eviljimmy]

@@Amanverma561 from Avengers Age of Ultron. Tony Stark says it's after Ultron beats him to a punchline

[@The_Defiance]

I was expecting more of creating an artificial electromagnetic field, but this works

[@dustybeaver6823]

This is the repliacators from Stargate SG1. They were nasty.

[@aleksatanaskovic9172]

So, the dead internet theory but on a galactic scale

[@kilppa]

Exactly what I was about to say. Forget dead internet, how about dead galaxy.

[@aleksatanaskovic9172]

@@kilppa that'd be the Dead Space paradox.

[@garybicknell2135]

Better theory than Fred Saberhagen's version which has the von neumann machines as doomsday weapons rather than data probes.

[@shingofan]

I believe that's called the Great Filter

[@Tawleyn]

It's not actually a theory in the same way that the dead internet theory is. It's a theory in the same way that Gravity is the gravitational theory. From everything we know, gravity does x/y/z and is caused by x/y/z (don't want to explain). Just the same, most stars in the sky are light beams from suns that are most likely already dead. It takes millions of years for that light to reach us, on average. The average lifespan of a star is about 10 billion years, and Earth is about 4.5 billion years old.

[@woodworkerroyer8497]

This guy really could run for politics. He knows exactly how to dodge a question! "Do you believe in aliens?" "Let's talk about this...." Talks about AI and probes "That's scary. They're not even collecting data for anything living at that point!" Question successfully avoided.

[@ockopus]

@woodworkerroyer8497 I mean ge answered it, if not directly. His answer said "if there was aliens visiting the earth" - so he basically said he doesn't think there is any actual living beings visiting earth and the examples provides a brief detail as to the fact that he thinks any intelligent life that could have crested such probes would likely be dead. So his answer is in short - they could exist but he doesn't think they do rn

[@birthdayzrock1426]

it's more interesting to hear about that stuff rather than some simple yes/no answer

[@isg4]

​@@birthdayzrock1426 this is just a glorified yes/no

[@mihagomiunik2758]

What beats nothing? *Tax evasion*

[@OdinHagen]

The thing that always gets me when it comes to how we think about Alien life is we look at it from a standpoint of what we need for life. Alien life could easily be on in which that requires radiation to live. For all we know alien life could easily be forever outside our grasp as we may be toxic to them or vise versa.

[@nickmeyer238]

Signs: Water kills them. War of the Worlds: our bacteria kills them.

[@Fuckyoubloodymoron]

Even if alien life required radiation to live, too much would still kill it.

[@falconer7166]

Aliens- Ripley kills them.

[@egg_addict]

isn't there a mold that needs radiation to survive in the ruins of Chernobyl or something?

[@knightofficer]

I had an ex like that once

[@Bffgjhyfffgg]

By far the most realistic take on aliens I have ever heard. You sir, are a treasure

[@blarghwagurder]

Yep, 99% of them are just robo avatar "demon" things. Then there's the one percent that are organic that nobody can prove exist because of how superior they would be if they truly did exist.

[@ЙцукенПетрович]

You must not have heard many ideas about aliens. This stuff has been around since the 60s at least.

[@dracolusus]

@@ЙцукенПетрович If the algos don't push it, they never learn it, and most likely it fades away pretty quickly.

[@grumbo8634]

Reddit

[@Techie_Lee]

You just described the plot to “we are legion”

[@derekp6636]

bobiverse!

[@russd8159]

Came to the comments to say this. Very good book series!

[@Kataclysm113]

@@russd8159 i need to get around to reading those. i've had the first 3 books sitting on my desk for ages and i finished the first one but never started book 2.

[@datazra8654]

awesome series

[@alexlovel]

Can't wait until book 5

[@ShinzoAkira69]

That was such a Yoko Taro plot twist. I love it

[@HumanCarBomb]

That LAST part is very scary! "They could be collecting data for No ONE"

[@halivudestevez2]

they are collecting data for marketing purposes and to feed their AI ... and stuff

[@MrNobodyNR]

Bro, Thor is always giving me HOURS of existencial crises everytime i see a shorts of this man.

[@WeaponizedStrumpet]

Yeah, I'm still not over the misaligned pixels he pointed out on the windows calculator...

[@MrNobodyNR]

@@WeaponizedStrumpet BRO YES, that shit still haunts me too I started using my phones calculator to stop looking at that

[@Lanfeng_huang]

Bro is talking the Replicators from Stargate

[@richardli2839]

@@Lanfeng_huang the irony that pirate’s name is Thor… as the Asgardians in SG-1, specifically Thor of the Asgardians, asked O’neil for help against the replicators 😂😂

[@umokwhy2830]

Someone call SGC

[@jebbsredemption]

@@richardli2839 that's not his Nickname.. Thor is his actual name

[@SeveralGhost]

This description is concerningly close to sounding like DNA as a self-assembling alien machine

[@joshkorte9020]

Imagine you're in a desert, and you find one gray spec of sand in the sea of brown. Then imagine saying that in the entire vast desert, there is not a single second gray spec of sand.

[@WhiteWalk8]

Wtf is this supposed to mean?

[@roadent217]

Ehh, it's more like seeing one tiny flower growing up in an ice sheet in Antarctica, and being surprised that you can't see any other plants around. There might be some moss around, but people are expecting to see massive trees somewhere along the ice.

[@sohhyuna]

@@roadent217 hm? Not sure that was the point. The point was that it’s hard to accept that in the countless stars amongst the universe only we stand alone in this empty void of space.

[@kapperbeastYT]

Difference is that we use ourselves as the basis for assumptions about alien behavior, and we've found radio waves to be incredibly helpful in communication, and we've theorized Dyson swarms to be the ultimate state of a large built up solar system, both of which are things we could detect with relative ease, the alternative requires us to check each planet and moon "by hand".

[@isg4]

​@@WhiteWalk8 you can't say aliens don't exit just cuz you don't see them in a gargantuan Universe

[@anypotato7610]

the man just explained pretty spot on the replicators from stargate xD

[@alexborlin3482]

This man listened to We are Legion, We are Bob

[@robertwehling4948]

the bobiverse

[@disguisedpuppy]

Thomas Mulligan has competition

[@Alertacobra12]

We asked a simple question and left with cosmic horror

[@dasirrlicht5415]

You are making Grey Goo. Never make Grey Goo.

[@AshuraGlitch13]

Just a whisper, saying we once existed

[@jisonruede]

“We are bob, We are legion” What you just said is this book in a nutshell

[@jeanjacques9323]

"A robot that can harvest the materials it needs to make more of itself" is actually really close to the function of a living cell...

[@bipolarminddroppings]

there's a reason why we came up with the idea...

[@darnassiannightsaber7835]

@@bipolarminddroppings Can't make something out of nothing :)

[@giovannigiorgio231]

Sounds like wall E cleanining earth by himself

[@andrewprahst2529]

That's what that dang tic tac was

[@kapperbeastYT]

A damage alien probe is something i saw get at least a little legitimate attention

[@ceasze5072]

“Aliens?” “Existential crisis.”

[@omarehab2251]

one more short before bed The short:

[@superjj1850]

It’s not crazy to believe in aliens, it’s just batshit insane to think they are just casually making trips to earth lmao

[@anthonyzeedyk406]

It's really not insane. It's insane to think it's insane. In two thousand years, we went from horse and carriage to rockets to the freaking moon. Where will we be in twenty thousand years? Two hundred? You know everything that's possible, so you should be able to tell me.

[@GoldBean2752]

@@anthonyzeedyk406 it took two billion years of evolution and millions of years of generational knowledge for that to happen.

[@Maibuwolf]

@@anthonyzeedyk406 We will still be traveling way, way fucking below the speed of light in 1k years. That leaves un still in our solar system. The only way we will ever properly explore anything outside our own solar system is if we find something like wormholes or find out we were really wrong about some laws of physics. I feel like you are drastically underestimating distances in space.

[@cousinpatsey2471]

​@anthonyzeedyk406 20000 years, probably dead as a species. 200? Stuck in our solar system. Maybe moving around nearby planets though. I don't think you appreciate just how big space is.

[@anthonyzeedyk406]

@@Maibuwolf who said 1k years? I feel like you don't know what time is and think that 1,000 = 200,000. You should be friends with Terence Howard.

[@jjay_jupiter]

He just explained a great book “We are Legion (We are Bob). If this topic interest you I highly recommend reading this.

[@KindaCarbon]

All hail THE BOB

[@jjay_jupiter]

@@KindaCarbon this guy gets it!

[@peklenc9727]

Ok thanks for the random existential crisis on a Sunday

[@Cee1019]

I love that Thor's comforting take on alien's is that they created a grey goo scenario and died at the helm leaving it to spread.

[@КоротковИлья-н2б]

"A robot that can self-replicate" Grey goo doomsday scenario: "allow me to introduce myself"

[@HippieInHeart]

Lmao, that's what I was thinking of too. Yeah, let's just create some self-replicating machines, I'm sure nothing can go wrong. XD

[@neruba2173]

Literally the plot of The Expanse.

[@313comput]

If you can build an interstellar self replicating Von Neumann probe, your species is probably still around.

[@matthewvasquez8787]

Bro needs to watch Star Gate, they’re called replicators in that show and they’re scary

[@swagezzz7851]

This is just that one episode of the robots from the Justice League lol

[@RockinAfr0]

That's a deep cut, damn! Now I wanna watch that Justice League series again!

[@necr0danc3r29]

The Dark Heart I think.