"Hello guys, welcome back to another Backpack Hero videos. Today, we're going to tackle floor 10000. One energy can create 999 spikes!" - Tyler, 2069
@azurefoxbh92802 жыл бұрын
nah he loses to posin scaling at one point its gonna out damage him id think once he gets to the third stage again or he loses to bee
@Zilican2 жыл бұрын
@@azurefoxbh9280 It depends, 11 energy, if he had 3 cleansing rags, that's 30 poison removed per turn + 10 healing per vamp (1 energy to block), it's going to take a long time to lose to poison that way.
@secondslash5872 жыл бұрын
@@Zilican if the base poison inflicted goes above your max hp (in this case, 56) then there’s nothing you can do about it, you just die at the start of your turn before you can remove any of it
@azurefoxbh92802 жыл бұрын
@@Zilican well he did lose to snake soooo
@TraeKryzer2 жыл бұрын
9:38 A good way to phrase that, is that the Staff you're using requires mana and an empty space to give you an extra energy. This takes up the same amount of space. The windmill is equivalent to a 3/3 manastone. But now there's less clicking.
@donovandewitt66782 жыл бұрын
+ first turn energy that he wouldn't get with the staff, which is only second turn on
@jakeoshay2 жыл бұрын
Also the staff caps at 7, so it's +1 in combination
@newtonthenewt14002 жыл бұрын
Plus there isn't a location constraint on it, while the staff can only create mana in its column. I think the windmill could only be bad if you are able to generate more mana over the course of a fight, that way you can generate more than one of those energy tokens off of one manastone. But then of course you will also then need another item to generate said mana... Basically the windmill is strictly better except in only a few very specific scenarios, in which case the potential -1 energy would probably not even matter anyways.
@doomse1502 жыл бұрын
@@newtonthenewt1400 You also can't really generate more tokens with regenerating Mana, because you eventually run out of spaces around the staff. Unless you use 3 energy to reorganize the tokens away from the staff.
@newtonthenewt14002 жыл бұрын
@@doomse150 Thought about exactly that too but didn't want to type an essay lol
@satori6952 жыл бұрын
The Fox's Rapier adds 1 block to the user on use. The one block that is added during use is not contributed by the Gemstone Heart. Could be an idea for a relic in the future to have extra healing be converted to block though.
@3dupree5092 жыл бұрын
Yeah.. Text appears on the screen to correct him.
@judybeakz2 жыл бұрын
You explaining everything makes me happy. Not many content creators do so. The “new to you” tab on KZbin did me well! I found you!!
@jerecakes12 жыл бұрын
welcome to the Aliensrock family :D
@Vizaru2 жыл бұрын
aliens rock likes playing a variety of games, and so he explains them as he learns them himself, which I agree makes a wonderful viewer experience
@krysmun2 жыл бұрын
Part of me was thinking that you’d end up one-shotting yourself against Rat King at the end after seeing you almost lose after forgetting to block, but no, we actually get a three-parter, holy shit! I don’t think there’ll ever be another run like this after this one’s done, at least for a long time!
@CharaMads2 жыл бұрын
there's runs that'll surpass this definitely, once he realizes the raw power of shield hero and the new reworked cleavers or archery
@adumbchicken80222 жыл бұрын
@@CharaMads cleaver shields will always be the most busted thing to ever grace this game
@phaeste2 жыл бұрын
this isn't even close to the wildest shit you can pull
@scottbitz52222 жыл бұрын
Though, the nice part is if he screwed up but knew he could win the auto save wouldn't have been overwritten and he could try again, but that didn't happen.
@brucewillards372 жыл бұрын
I'm calling it now, he dies to the Shadows in the Deep Caves. Why? Because of the big curses. They will outscale 56 hp, and if you add them in your inventory, they are permeant unless you have the emerald bracelet or a healer in miraculously in your dungeon.
@omegaboi70872 жыл бұрын
ooh yeah My bet is on if he gets queen bee in the crypt, if it does over 30 poison (which I assume it will be but idk I haven't got that far) then with the extreme tankiness of the enemies he won't be able to heal/remove poison in time. The bats in deep caves would also be very dangerous, but if he gets past both of those he's most likely dead to the shadows. my final prediction is bee, but if he gets rooster instead, then bats
@cosmicdaylight87542 жыл бұрын
There is a relic which uses weapons when you use shields
@nate372 жыл бұрын
He even has the relic that would negate the -1 attack penalty.
@Snukkuri2 жыл бұрын
Oh thats gonna make him scale even more
@vythe17942 жыл бұрын
Its called shield spirit its super cool and would definitely make this build godlike
@churchofeg2 жыл бұрын
+4 to each of the three connected shields per shield use
@jordanhaney6572 жыл бұрын
The only problem I can forsee here is he would then be forced to attack 4 times every time he blocks. Sounds great unless it's the first turn and the enemy has spikes. Because of vampirism that means the spikes will get triggered 8 times as soon as he blocks once. Almost certainly a death sentence.
@covya2 жыл бұрын
Gemstone heart isn't giving that 1 block, the Fox's rapier adds 1 block per use on top of scaling shields. It's why it's so great on a haste build!
@zacharycates54852 жыл бұрын
I got rid of my money early on in my own nearly infinite run, as well. BUT I regretted not being able to buy max health at the healers, so I pretty quickly decided that sacrificing one space to money was worth it. Got to floor sixty-something in that run! :)
@methatis30132 жыл бұрын
Jesus, what was your build
@zacharycates54852 жыл бұрын
@@methatis3013 It evolved a lot as it went, but essentially it was 2 Hercule Pavise surrounded by a buckler, a mirror shield, and the shield that buffs weapon damage, a bunch of cleavers, two cleansing rags, and some healing buffs. For relics, I had the stopwatch, shield spirit, the energy relic, and the cleansing candle, oh, and the coral. I also had 3 Crimson energy accessories, so with the energy relic, I had 7 energy per round. Plus, I got really lucky finding a lot of forges, so my shields added a bunch of haste per use, and my cleavers added a bunch of rage per use. I basically generated a ton of block; a ton of damage; cleansed poison, rage, and regen; healed a bit; and because of the Crimson energy accessories, I had some room in my inventory to drop in small or medium curses with just a minor energy loss.
@eeveegon2 жыл бұрын
First the turtle build, then the fortress build, now the porcupine build? Bro it never stops!
@z3_gaming5262 жыл бұрын
Tyler has achieved full perfection. A block buffing sword with healing, a way to just increase energy with mana, a shield that uses adjacent shields, and now ... a relic that gives shields spikes.
@JorgetePanete2 жыл бұрын
he needs hp scaling and poison removal but this run has been insane
@z3_gaming5262 жыл бұрын
@Jorge I also forget to mention that he can remove poison by attacking.
@JorgetePanete2 жыл бұрын
@@z3_gaming526 yeah, but curses and poison scale a lot
@abrahamjalamneh43592 жыл бұрын
I’m a simple man, I see juggernaut, I click.
@TRCruzzr2 жыл бұрын
Im a complex man, I see juggernaut, forget what it means.
@anonymall2 жыл бұрын
what does this comment even mean
@Lucian46942 жыл бұрын
@@anonymall it means he's a simple man, when he sees juggernaut, he clicks.
@AmadisLFE2 жыл бұрын
@@TRCruzzr 4-X-X Dart Monkey.
@Amodh12572 жыл бұрын
Please do a build with that one dagger that gets more damage permanently per kill it does!
@anthonycannet13052 жыл бұрын
The hardest part of that run is getting that legendary item early enough to start stacking damage
@Azrael1782 жыл бұрын
If summoned minions count there could easily be a infinite DMG output from that item
@jacksonfunke82302 жыл бұрын
It's really difficult to force yourself into a run. You need a base and then you can start ssaying yes or no to stuff to help build your build, but it's still difficult.
@Amodh12572 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonfunke8230 As a fan of roguelikes, I am more than fully aware of this. It's just that he had a really *blerch* reaction to the blade the last time he got it, saying that it seemed like a huge pain in the ass. Which might mean that even if he got it early on, he might pass it up for the same reason, and that would be a real darn shame
@phaeste2 жыл бұрын
@@Azrael178 they don't. Every item that gives items on kill specify that it doesnt work on summons
@kugelblitz91372 жыл бұрын
40 minute endless run. This is gonna be insane
@Yipper642 жыл бұрын
*longer than 40 minutes* As there will likely be another video, since he didnt say where he died.
@SYKRAL12 жыл бұрын
Plus a bunch of the run was cut out. Basically an entire floor except one fight, and a bunch of the fights we did see got cut when it was repetitive
@whatd06052 жыл бұрын
There's one relic that makes shields use all adjacent weapons when used, so if Tyler got that I think that would really push the run into unbeatable territory since each block would use the sword 3 times. The one downside is that whenever a weapon is used this way it gets -1 damage this combat, but with the stopwatch and the +1 rage from the upgrader, the sword will still scale by 1, and it will actually scale more. Right now it's +2 per energy, but if he gets that relic, it will be +1 (x3) for a total of +3 damage per energy on top of the additional block scaling from the sword. I really hope that he manages to find it.
@Leadvest2 жыл бұрын
26:00 I lost a Pickaxe, and Ring of Doom run to the Snake and Fire Gecko fight on Floor 16 just last night. Seeing what it takes to get through it is cathartic. Really starting to dislike a lot of the relics.
@martimpintopaiva36282 жыл бұрын
The same way you sacrificed the long shield, you can also give the little buckler up, and move the other one to the right
@AmadisLFE2 жыл бұрын
The hercule shield isn't great in starter defense, but yeah, he could. -4 Block wouldn't hurt him.
@PhilBushay2 жыл бұрын
getting that relic at the end was just the cherry on top of this delicious ass cake of a build.
@thekingofchaos25522 жыл бұрын
I literally waited to watch the first part of this cause I hate having to wait 24 hours for the next part And he goes to part 3 for the first time... Pain
@cineblazer2 жыл бұрын
this mouse gotta be jacked as frick with this training regimens my man's probably shredded
@codysloan9352 жыл бұрын
Watch your vids every day after work. Love to see the thought process you put into every move throughout each video tyler. Your patience far exceeds mine. Keep making smart play vids and ill watch forever!
@7gate6272 жыл бұрын
I just love that you play the binding of Isaac, it's so fun to watch! (see description)
@CMP77782 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting to see how far this run goes! Keep up the entertaining videos!
@WorBlux2 жыл бұрын
Windmill takes two slots and give one energy. - Wand at best needs a 1 space 3/3 stone and an empty space. But windmill gives energy on turn one. It's more space efficient. Less space flexible, but not less space effecient.
@CalebTerryRED2 жыл бұрын
It's equally space efficient as a 3-mana stone and an empty space, but requires less clicking
@id01_012 жыл бұрын
@@CalebTerryRED 3 stone doesn't give energy on turn 1
@CalebTerryRED2 жыл бұрын
@@id01_01 Ah, I see. You're right, the windmill is better
@deathblade322 жыл бұрын
Highest I saw on block was archangel armor(+2 haste per turn) with 9 building blocks, it gave +9 extra per turn, and the person was gaining 3 spikes per turn, turtle build, in fact I think it was your video with the explosive swords, ended up gaining 500+ block each turn and only lost to fire damage in the end
@whyiwakeup64602 жыл бұрын
Considering I haven’t seen anyone of your popularity playing backpack hero, I think it would be cool for the devs to include something that’s related to you, maybe an item of some kind called “alien rock”
@TlalocTemporal2 жыл бұрын
Northern Lion has done a few streams, and they've been honored in games before. Maybe Tyler will join the ranks of honored popularizers soon!
@gergelyritter95992 жыл бұрын
Its actually so relaxing to listen to you. I absolutely love your content as well. I am sad you are not more known. Anyway, hope you keep up the great content!
@jasonlatta20002 жыл бұрын
Coral will be busted going into the next round, but if you get the spirit shield…never choose between block and attack again! (At 10 energy - assuming one is lost for relic - each turn you’d gain 30 rage, heal 90 hp, clear 30 poison, gain 90 spikes, and maxing block after the first turn) I think the only risk then would be curse/poison exceeding max hp in a single turn.
@certainlynotmalo1.0.02 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem would be an enemy with spikes. On the first turn when he blocks he gets hit by 12 times the spikes and instantly die. 12 times bc 4 shields trigger 4 attacks and he has 2 times vampirism, so that would be Instasuicide...
@jasonlatta20002 жыл бұрын
@@certainlynotmalo1.0.0 I think it would only be six hits per block. If I remember right, it’s only adjacent weapons that are triggered, so three attacks. And, the vampirism should stack to be one “hit” for two points vampirism - three more triggers for six. I haven’t played for a bit, but I don’t remember any enemies with starting spike besides the ?gladiator? which starts with seven I believe? Since the shields have to be triggered first, and the fox rapier would buff the second and third before they are activated, he would take 58, but have healed 22-24 depending on order of operations. So, yeah not quite insta-dead… at least until the enemy attacks. But, candle or cleansing bomb would be work for that enemy, which is usually fairly uncommon.
@phaeste2 жыл бұрын
@@certainlynotmalo1.0.0 3 shields not 4. shield spirit only uses adjacent weapons and only 3 of them are next to the weapon. also just drop the vampirism
@certainlynotmalo1.0.02 жыл бұрын
@@jasonlatta2000 You're right i think. That halves the damage. But if he uses his weapon or the shields again he propably dies anyway. Not sure about that, i'm too lazy to do the calculations right now...And Candle would be awesome or he just reorganizes his backpack that this doesn't happen. He could just let his spikes kill the enemy, but damn that takes a while😅 He gets killed either by spikes, poison or curses. Or maybe we are wrong and something totally unexpected happens and kills him(don't know what that could be or it wouldn't be unexpected🤔)
@andrewmeyers70532 жыл бұрын
Tyler videos might be my life force rn
@Tricky12u2 жыл бұрын
Finally I can start my bedtime routine.
@TheEvenClan2 жыл бұрын
On the other side of the world, I'm waking up 45 minutes earlier just to watch Tyler :D
@viviainusher47662 жыл бұрын
This was amazing and I repeatedly died from the pure insanity of it sometimes. This was wonderful
@lucid89912 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this series. Keep it up Tyler!
@sanchij30292 жыл бұрын
Great vid!! Cant wait for the next episode!!
@werdfeefs70272 жыл бұрын
Good call not removing the windmill. Yes, it's less space efficient, but it's an extra energy on *turn one.* That's actually a big deal.
@SingingToast6522 жыл бұрын
Actually considering the wand needs Both a mana stone and an empty space, the windmill is just as space efficient as the wand
@lamarionevans48622 жыл бұрын
You are my favorite BTD battles content maker ever you make me laugh through hard times
@swordzanderson53522 жыл бұрын
Tyler, for the King fight, you could, instead, use the minions to build up your block until you cap out block at max energy, then just spam block so that the boss doesn't scale his rage and spikes. That way, you don't suffer from his spikes since you have to attack him to get hit by it, and all you have to deal with is his rage, which will absolutely not be better than the sh*t ton of spikes that you will have. The only benefit with attacking using your weapon would be healing. Or, you can just scale your damage up with the minions on your weapon up to high heavens since max King scales would be 1 per attack, since your spikes will buff him once. The fight would be much easier either way.
@syrenet2 жыл бұрын
The mustache shields are ridicilously good if you score some random events for haste and spike upgrades, even if it is weapon upgrade rage and vampirism is really strong too with this build. Also dont think there is reasonable cap on the endles mode, haste spike brick wall bow build got me to 44'th floor but then snake managed to sneak in 173 poison in single hit and one shotted me.
@PieletPi2 жыл бұрын
I did a pikaxe build earlier and it was super fun, and a good build as well. Plus i had the gem relic that increases damage if theres adjacent gems so it became even stronger. Only issue is i flooded my inventory with gems that buff it, but i didnt give myself any way to get armor so i died on stage 13. It did 108 damage per shot at the end, and i had 2 items that increased damage so i was doing 540 per turn.
@nonessential32 жыл бұрын
I simply cannot wait for the next video bro
@teslainvestah50032 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to it!
@softpaw62342 жыл бұрын
I was skeptical at first, but this bofuri run is going places
@superexplosion59852 жыл бұрын
To quote the dozer(I think) in payday 2 "YOU ARE AGAINST A WALL, AND I AM THE WALL"
@notableronin2 жыл бұрын
With that final boss fight, attacking the minions scales yourself while not scaling the boss’s rage and spikes
@binathiessen49202 жыл бұрын
The reason for the block cap is supposedly because of Berserker's club, to limit the number of times you can use it in 1 turn so you can't use it for unlimited belt of knives damage. I think they should just let berserker's club be indirectly OP if you get stopwatch and a block heavy build.
@glitchxero46872 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, looking forward to the next video. Tankiest build ever.
@jw66732 жыл бұрын
I am addicted to watching this game sadly cant play it for a while
@verillix64302 жыл бұрын
Theoretically if the max number of enemies is 4, you could get 4 of the ninja outfits, giving you 4 block, and thus making you immortal and unable to take any damage outside of spikes, and status effects, so just grab a sword and cleansing potions and you got a good build.
@probablyawesome172 жыл бұрын
Definitely waiting for the next one
@fromandtounknown65752 жыл бұрын
Actually thought the 999 defense on the thumbnail are clickbait, you got me there
@alexanderelderhorst21072 жыл бұрын
Man getting the cleanse rag saved you, that's so lucky
@NamHoang-oy7lj2 жыл бұрын
Tyler before: Normie human Tyler after: mouse with an amounts of nails that can kill GOD
@YanceyX223 Жыл бұрын
9:05 Yeah, that one block is from the weapon you use. Even if you are actually healing there is still +1 block.
@philipsheehan37542 жыл бұрын
The video will never end!
@Friredragon2 жыл бұрын
Awh hell naw the rats becoming a god
@jessevandorenjr.39842 жыл бұрын
Let's go Tyler's building a wall
@1nsane892 жыл бұрын
What even is this build? Now you have even turned into a Porcupine. Cant wait for the next video!
@keesvdb2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for that spike relic
@hesho242 жыл бұрын
I remember reading the description for the hercule pavise in another run and thinking “am I crazy or is that fundamentally broken?” and lo and behold this run came into being.
@phaeste2 жыл бұрын
its essentially just king cleaver as a shield, and if you get multiple you can have a huge chain of shields
@nahuel_fernandez2 жыл бұрын
Never been so excited omg!
@loading44392 жыл бұрын
You should do a build with the Orksork Ax. It uses gold instead of energy so if you make a ton of gold, it is very useful.
@JamesTDG2 жыл бұрын
ah, this is gonna get called the shield trilogy
@natansandle92842 жыл бұрын
You could get a lot more space/energy by getting rid of most of your mana stones and getting the item that gives you mana each turn
@kazavali20292 жыл бұрын
Congradulations
@JD_WolfKing Жыл бұрын
This man goes 121 over the limit in 2 blocks
@briansun92612 жыл бұрын
cool
@Orwrath20102 жыл бұрын
would like to see a herb log build in the future maybe you can get the herb that gives 3 max hp multiple times so you can become a super tank maybe paired with the shield build :P
@matthewbaker3202 жыл бұрын
Do you think the ancient tome could help compact the mana orb space or would it cause the shields to delay receiving sword buffs too long? Then imagine a reorganize to move the +1 energy stones and get even more late-combat actions per turn!
@bones10972 жыл бұрын
Actually hyped as hell for the next eppy
@Viscidsquare0402 жыл бұрын
I wonder how good Shield Spirit would be for this build (Shield Spirit is a relic that makes shields use weapons adjacent to them when used with a downside that the weapons get -1 damage this combat (which is counteracted by Tyler’s Stopwatch in this run))
@MorganSaph2 жыл бұрын
Alt Title: New Ultimate Build for Backpack Hero Discovered!!
@reptilechurrasquero90482 жыл бұрын
Yesterday i did a build called "the rise of the shield hero" it is literaly based on an anime that there are 4 heroes but they can only use one excluse "weapon" being: bow, sword, lance, and shield. And they cannot use other weapon. Thats why i lost to an enemy that inflicted debuffs instead of physical damage :( My only source of damage was 160 shield with 130 spikes per turn But it was fun and i got to floor 4
@Schedelke2 жыл бұрын
Well this HAS to be the run!
@SpawnofChaos Жыл бұрын
I bet the Tasty Fly is a toad-character-only consumable.
@masterchiefiscoolgamer2322 жыл бұрын
Im so excited for another video!
@spiral_soup2 жыл бұрын
I had made a similar build but I had the shield totem which activated all the weapons around shields for infinite damage but the damage did decrease over time due to the Shield totems -1 damage for that round and after a certain point you could only block
@phaeste2 жыл бұрын
thats why you either put rage on one weapon or get the clock. the clock fully negates shield spirit and 1 rage per attack does it almost completely
@markmeyer80772 жыл бұрын
Did this exact thing, but had the other final boss. I’d say that one was harder because fire gecks get summoned which stack a lot of fire on you… had 600 fire at the end of it, but always had max sheild…
@reconnect18572 жыл бұрын
Absolutely bonkers. This run is gonna end only when you can't survive turn 1 damage with 4 blocks.
@ionstorm662 жыл бұрын
Get 2 mini shields to free up two more spaces for a water flask would help.
@phaeste2 жыл бұрын
@@ionstorm66 it would fuck him over. his shield scaling requires shields to be next to the rapier, mini shields wouldnt be next to it
@victor_e_dafeet82182 жыл бұрын
23:15, ah maybe not by 8 block, probably not by 1 block, but quite possibly you’ll be short by… 9 BLOCK!!!!
@Qeisama2 жыл бұрын
Shield and spike build is my way to go. I remember playing Xenoblade X with Shield Spike build and just walking leisurely while enemies got spiked and dying here and there.
@phaeste2 жыл бұрын
yeah it just fails completely in this game if you dont have other damage and healing due to curses and snakes that literally cant die from spikes
@PoweredByDucks2 жыл бұрын
cleaver run with cleansing flame is unbeatable
@phaeste2 жыл бұрын
it isn't. you need shield spirit now
@JorgetePanete2 жыл бұрын
this is absolutely insane but poison may instantly end it
@re2pect4702 жыл бұрын
You are legit part of nighttime routine
@thonk76112 жыл бұрын
ITS GOING FAR
@espurrjelly2 жыл бұрын
Honestly tyler, this build is cracked. Though i do wonder if it has fast enough ramping? Either way we find out next time on backpack hero.
@lunaqc81312 жыл бұрын
Goshhh, that is an amazing strat
@D.U.D.E.-From-L0STR00MS2 жыл бұрын
22:11 achievement unlocked: how did we get here?
@springking38732 жыл бұрын
I've had so many good builds die to the king's thorns
@lercio.4152 жыл бұрын
The thumbnails king
@jensjux47472 жыл бұрын
I think in the final fight you shouldve farmed the minions to scale while the king isnt, so you deal more dmg per shot which is decent against spikes. That would be minmax ;)
@anthonycannet13052 жыл бұрын
If not for poison, you could scrap the gems and sword for just purely scaling shields if you got a relic like the stopwatch for blocking
@phaeste2 жыл бұрын
there is no relic like that, either you get hast from a forge or archangel armor
@anthonycannet13052 жыл бұрын
@@phaeste I meant something that grants haste, not necessarily a relic. My bad
@deadshark84042 жыл бұрын
nice build and awesome vid
@shepherdlawson97592 жыл бұрын
15:00 kids when they see a take one sign at Halloween
@playbtdbattles24092 жыл бұрын
On the king you could have scaled attack and shield by attacking the minions so he did not build spikes
@somerandomperson45862 жыл бұрын
“More energy means I can suck better” -Tyler
@nerdygamer12372 жыл бұрын
what the binding of isaac youtube plz youve gotten infinite block and (soon to be) inf spikes, now do every buff
@murphthasmurf59232 жыл бұрын
Block just seems like the best scaling in the game currently. If not for a poison weakness a spike/block build is basically unbeatable
@shirubaurufu2 жыл бұрын
It's very beatable as the highest block you can get is 999 and enemy damage will eventually scale past that.
@jacobnix99522 жыл бұрын
@@shirubaurufu yeah and curses screw you over
@churchofeg2 жыл бұрын
2nd loop here we go
@LilScrewmatic2 жыл бұрын
imagine if you also had the relic that makes it so your shields trigger adjacent weapons
@jacknguyen52202 жыл бұрын
Aren't your spikes a hard counter to the king's spikes? If you let yourself scale mostly by allowing your spikes to grow, it won't trigger the king's spikes, and you could let the king just kill himself.
@LadyMulti-InfinityGrandPalace2 жыл бұрын
The only thing that could have made that run better would have been the Shield Spirit. I had a similar run but I had the pickaxe, spike gems, two of the little legendary shields that used each other requiring only one other shield (chose mirror shield in the end)... it was beautiful. But poison...yea... It killed me. Shield Spirt: when using a shield an adjacent weapon is used. I just hit Shield to win.. Combined with Archangel armor... whooboy 999 shields all the way to floor 17 where I died.