Alive ~ Lost in Adaptation

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Dominic Noble

Dominic Noble

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@alitaniak7404
@alitaniak7404 2 жыл бұрын
If anyone is interested in knowing more about the crash and what the survivors had to do to survive (and haven't watched the movie yet), I highly recommend Ask A Mortician's video on the subject. Very insightful and entertaining while still respecting the survivors and the tragedy itself.
@charsol2389
@charsol2389 2 жыл бұрын
I was about to comment the same thing so I will just like yours instead 😁
@Alumnia91
@Alumnia91 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I love Caitlyn's coverage of the story too! It made me buy the movie:D
@LixiaWinter
@LixiaWinter 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, fellow deatling! I was about to comment the same thing
@petrosinella
@petrosinella 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation!
@zivens.2407
@zivens.2407 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was going to comment the same as well!
@Krlytz
@Krlytz 2 жыл бұрын
As a Uruguayan myself, I've heard this story many times since I was a child. Here we call it "The tragedy of The Andes". Oddly enough, I didn't know there was a book nor a movie about it. I'm glad to see that both were faithful to the real events and respectful to the people involved in it.
@arianae1993
@arianae1993 2 жыл бұрын
Hola! Acá en Perú también se conoce como "la tragedia de los Andes" yo si sabía de la película, porque en mi colegio católico me hicieron ver partes
@ailem2707
@ailem2707 2 жыл бұрын
Acá en Chile le dicen más “el milagro de Los Andes”
@Krlytz
@Krlytz 2 жыл бұрын
Interesante cómo unos países se enfocan en la pérdida y otros en la supervivencia de los rescatados 🤔
@GlorianaLovejoy
@GlorianaLovejoy 2 жыл бұрын
There is the book Dom covers here, and another titled "Miracle in The Andes" by Nando Parrado himself. They're both very much worth the read :-)
@arianae1993
@arianae1993 2 жыл бұрын
Si, también he escuchado "el milagro de lo Andes" pero al menos yo, lo conocí como tragedia 🤔 si, es muy interesante
@lizryan7451
@lizryan7451 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I really appreciate about Dom is that he knows when to play into the humor of a story, and when to treat subject matter with seriousness and dignity. These days I think it's really easy for content creators to get so caught up in trying to be entertaining that heavy subjects can get handled poorly, but Dom always seems very sincere in his efforts to be self aware and responsible and it's really admirable.
@TwoMarshmallows1
@TwoMarshmallows1 2 жыл бұрын
Well said, i completely agree.
@andyhighroller8217
@andyhighroller8217 2 жыл бұрын
_Lost in Adaptation_ should be on a streaming network. Like, Netflix seems like the perfect place for a show that sits in the 16-28 minute range, and if it’s not a complete copy on what he does here, I’d imagine this would be as good if it’s Dom on a stage with a stylistic blend of _Tosh.0/Ted Talk/Weekend Update._
@jessyg17
@jessyg17 2 жыл бұрын
Their Catholic faith helped them cope with the cannibalism in another way, I believe, as the survivors drew parallels from Jesus "giving his body" as holy communion. And if I'm correct again, the parents of the deceased did what they could to relieve their guilt saying they were glad their sons helped the survivors be able to return to their families. And the survivors started assuring each other if they themselves died next, it would be alright to use them to survive, something that then did occur, like after the avalanche.
@ErickSoares3
@ErickSoares3 2 жыл бұрын
You're correct.
@lizzythequeer3065
@lizzythequeer3065 2 жыл бұрын
Well that's dark as fuck
@jessyg17
@jessyg17 2 жыл бұрын
@@lizzythequeer3065 Well, yeah. It all is, the whole story
@evabeezero
@evabeezero 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching a documentary where a father of the deceased told one of the survivors that (I believe they might have been visiting the crash site at the time) and it made me completely break down.
@lizzythequeer3065
@lizzythequeer3065 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessyg17 oh dear
@prcervi
@prcervi 2 жыл бұрын
i'll guess the "friendship and faith not displayed strongly enough" is the ever hard to translate to paper psychological effect of being stranded and starving
@locuas5601
@locuas5601 2 жыл бұрын
I would have to read about it. but if I were to guess, in south america we can be EXTREMELY affectionate with one another.
@circa1890
@circa1890 2 жыл бұрын
We were obsessed with this book as children. The idea of surviving when so much is stacked up against you and what it took to survive - inspiring. Fun fact: When the movie came out it was played on airlines until someone complained that it was inappropriate. Anyone watching the first minutes of this movie would agree .. it's hard not to freak out even in ones living room, let alone aboard a plane.
@alisaurus4224
@alisaurus4224 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus balls really?! I would have thought it was obvious that you shouldn’t show plane crash movies on planes, at least not when inflight movies were shown on one big screen on each bulkhead and passengers could only choose to get a headset or not, but the visuals were unavoidable
@gmoo84
@gmoo84 2 жыл бұрын
Someone decided it was a good idea to play Speed on my greyhound bus in Canada back in the day. This was before the guy got stabbed/eaten/ decapitated and we discovered bombs weren't the scariest thing that could happen on a bus.
@circa1890
@circa1890 2 жыл бұрын
@@gmoo84 omg! 😟
@abegarfield7031
@abegarfield7031 17 күн бұрын
Airlines have edited Rain man so the scene where Ray refuses to get on the plane is excluded. ....but some will play Alive? The depths of human stupidity truly is bottomless. They may as well show Passenger 57.
@brunilda12
@brunilda12 2 жыл бұрын
Uruguaya here. There are other books about the subject, from the survivors themselves. Fernando Parrado book is specially poingnant. Pablo Vierci is written from the perspective of those who died up there. Dont know if they are in english, I asume yes.
@cussedcat28
@cussedcat28 2 жыл бұрын
Nando's book is available in English. It's called "Miracle in the Andes," and I highly recommend it.
@MGabrielaSalinasA
@MGabrielaSalinasA 2 жыл бұрын
Chilean over here. I can't say for sure that the rescue mission was incompetent as focused on other affairs (dictatorship). Air forces of Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay searched the area, but thought was impossible that someone could survive in the Andes. That's why the event is also known as the "Miracle of the Andes." The muleteer that helped the survivors, Sergio Catalán (d. 2020), kept in touch with them, and even called each other "Dad Sergio" and sons. And imagine, as a chilean, how nerve-racking is to know that for flying to Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, Europe, and Africa, you must always cross the Andes.
@alisaurus4224
@alisaurus4224 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve Texan & have never seen the Andes, but i have crossed the Alps in a prop plane and i was TERRIFIED. There was no real reason-the plane worked perfectly and it was a sunny day-but those mountains were just so big and the plane was the smallest I’d been on, and i couldn’t believe it could get us there. A mountain in a picture is very different from looking far, far down on a huge range of them and knowing only horrible circumstances would get you closer.
@alisaurus4224
@alisaurus4224 2 жыл бұрын
I just referenced a map and the Alps are downright adorable compared to the Andes-which are nearly half as high again, to say nothing of their linear extent
@mhxistenz
@mhxistenz 2 жыл бұрын
The Andes are truly a sight to see from the skies. I never thought of it as frightening. As a Chilean living in the US, I miss looking to the East and seeing those mountains.
@robertoperezcastro6130
@robertoperezcastro6130 Жыл бұрын
Hi gabriela another Chilean here. Your statement is very inaccurate. You can’t blame a dictatorship because these events happened in 1972 and the coup was in September of 1973. I agree with the lack of focus, but was indeed linked to an economic, political and social crisis in the country which, regardless of one’s political opinion is undeniable and based in facts. It let to a dictatorship but not even Pinochet was aware of plans for the coup at the time (he joined at the last minute). You must also consider the lack of infrastructure in Chile at the time for better telecommunications. For instance, color television didn’t arrive to Chile until 1978. I do regret the fact that, while pointing out the inaccuracies of the movie as opposed to the book, the reviewer is inaccurate himself with what you say, dear sergio Catalan, the muleteer.
@MagicalMedic
@MagicalMedic 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's still around, but San Diego's Balboa Park had an exhibit on cannibalism which included this story, including a short documentary and interviews with the survivors. The exhibit was very tasteful: it associated early stories of cannibalism among islanders and on the African continent with imperialism, racism, and misunderstanding the culture. They discussed how for those cultures where cannibalism did exist, it was typically associated with burial rites. After introducing early European misunderstandings and exaggerations, they migrated to European medicine, as some of that involved cannibalism. They had pictures of historical figures on the wall known to have engaged in it. Then there was a section on seafaring and cannibalism for people who got stranded, including a room where visitors were encouraged to "draw straws" as a group. The shortest stick would die, the second-shortest would be the one doing the killing. After that came a section on the incident Dom is talking about... The exhibit ended with examples of modern medicine (organ transplants, blood transfusion) and asked the question of whether the visitor regarded them cannibalism or not, leaving them with food for thought on the way out.
@styrax7280
@styrax7280 2 жыл бұрын
sounds like a great exhibit
@FrisbeeGorbeh
@FrisbeeGorbeh 2 жыл бұрын
I liked reading your comment, it all sounds very interesting. I'd love to visit that museum sometime. And then you said "food for thought". I see what you did there 😂
@spangelicious837
@spangelicious837 2 жыл бұрын
No, it's not there anymore. And to the end question, I would not qualify either as cannibalism since nothing is being consumed. 🤷‍♀️
@MagicalMedic
@MagicalMedic 2 жыл бұрын
@@FrisbeeGorbeh 😉
@goodlookingcorpse
@goodlookingcorpse 2 жыл бұрын
Hee hee. Tasteful.
@RockedNet
@RockedNet 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the movie for a class in high school about social decision making and how responsibility works in intense situations. This was eyeopening.
@Dominic-Noble
@Dominic-Noble 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised more people haven't seen it then :O
@Jedigrandmaster6637
@Jedigrandmaster6637 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dominic-Noble Idea: JAWS: lost in adaptation
@albuszx
@albuszx 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, it's a good movie to use in Ethics and Philosophy/Sociology class
@janel.8921
@janel.8921 2 жыл бұрын
@@albuszx I read it in Introduction to Ethics class at college.
@GlorianaLovejoy
@GlorianaLovejoy 2 жыл бұрын
I had the privilege of seeing Nando Parrado speak about 20yrs ago, and it has stayed with me ever since. It's hard to describe the straightforwardness and dignity of this man. He answered every question the audience presented, he was gracious & patient with everyone. His Catholic faith was evident, but his thoughts on appreciating life and facing adversity with calm & reason were inspiring on a *human* level, and he made it clear these things applied to everyone, of any faith (or lack thereof). Just an extremely impressive man. There's another book called "Miracle in The Andes" by Mr. Parrado & Vince Rause, and I highly recommend reading that one too. It touches more personally on Mr. Parrado's POV and experiences.
@demonoflight
@demonoflight 2 жыл бұрын
I watched Asked A Mortician and listened to My Favorite Murder cover the story, and now even Dom is on the case! No matter how many times I hear about it, the harrowing nature of this tragedy never fails to strike me. It's incredible how the survivors managed to move on from this.
@virginiavillagran6935
@virginiavillagran6935 2 жыл бұрын
I am Uruguayan, and have been a suscriber for a couple of years now. Thank you Dom for covering this story, and for doing so with your trade mark honesty and integrity of opinion. This tragedy has a cultural impact and weight for us (specially as a small country of only 3.5 million people) and sometimes (because of the nature of it) it gets treated with prejudice. Thank you again, and I look forward to your next video. Best wishes
@taylesia1
@taylesia1 2 жыл бұрын
I will defend the movie "Congo" until the day I die. That movie is such a guilty pleasure; and the cast is fantastic from intro to closing credits. "Stop eating my sesame cake!" Lives rent free in my mind.
@spangelicious837
@spangelicious837 2 жыл бұрын
"WHO IS KAFKA! TELL ME!" 🤣🤣🤣
@morganrobinson8042
@morganrobinson8042 2 жыл бұрын
Between Tim Curry, Ernie Hudson, and Bruce Campbell, and Joe Pantoliano, the move is just so full of great character actors that it's hard not to have a fun time.
@lynnhathaway3755
@lynnhathaway3755 2 жыл бұрын
Good, good, Amy.
@greenhowie
@greenhowie 2 жыл бұрын
Never saw the movie but the book is pure cheese, feels like reading a videogame novelization.
@taylesia1
@taylesia1 2 жыл бұрын
@@greenhowie the book has more science. The movie has more Tim Curry.
@oomflem
@oomflem 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinatingly, I read Nando Parrada's memoir of the crash instead of this one, and he only mentioned the cannibalism once or twice, saying it felt like a fairly minor part of their ordeal compared to other sufferings, so that part of this video came as a surprise, since I'd assumed that was accurate. I wonder if he remembered things differently due to trauma, or deliberately chose to play it down in his own book.
@GlorianaLovejoy
@GlorianaLovejoy 2 жыл бұрын
I saw him speak about the subject about 20yrs ago, and I got the impression that the cannibalism was more memorable to him on a spiritual level than anything. From his words on the subject, it came across that the mental/spiritual transformation he experienced both surviving the initial crash and getting himself out of there meant 100x more than what they had to eat to survive. Not that the act meant nothing to him, but to him it was more about being absolutely shaken awake to the precious, vulnerable nature of life, and how that transformed him.
@Di7manya
@Di7manya 2 жыл бұрын
He probably chose not to make the story about how a bunch of his friends died about the easily sensationalized aspect of cannibalism.
@oomflem
@oomflem 2 жыл бұрын
@@GlorianaLovejoy Yeah, his book was much more focused on the mental/spiritual/grief side of things, particularly since he was the one who lost both his mother and sister in the crash and spent several days in a coma. It's interesting that perspectives of the same event by different people can be so different.
@denelian116
@denelian116 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's because i grew up reading Heinlein (who brings it up in several books) but i cannot think of THIS type of cannibalism as "bad" or "evil". They didn't kill anyone to eat, they just ate the already dead. Ethically (and not being Christian myself, i can only go by the Catholic Church's reaction) religiously, they had an obligation to do what they could to survive, so long as they didn't hurt others to do so. Interestingly, all the supernatural tales that speak against cannibalism START with a person being killed (and i THINK always against their will) to feed others. Without that first sin - without the violent theft of life - I'm just not seeing the wrong (except medically, because prions) Wait, I'm reminded - anyone know if any of these poor survivors suffered the affects of prions? (I'm ethically okay with cannibalism, but my stomach still doesn't like reading about it... that's what i get for teaching my stomach to read...)
@styrax7280
@styrax7280 2 жыл бұрын
It is still desecration of a body, the body being symbolic for the person it once was. However this more a matter of cultural norms rather than morality and in my personal oppinion, up to the next of kin.
@denelian116
@denelian116 2 жыл бұрын
@@styrax7280 in this type of situation, where the next of kin are inaccessible? Desecration of a body is totally cultural, as you noted. Our culture would be kinda horrified by many older practices, and those older cultures would be horrified at us *preserving* bodies! (Not Egyptians, of course. I think we got the meme from them...) But other than physical danger from prions (which is almost definitely where folklore like wendigo came from) if I'm with a group of people in a situation like this, and i die, I'd MUCH rather the survivors eat me so that they can CONTINUE to be survivors, na da?
@styrax7280
@styrax7280 2 жыл бұрын
@@denelian116 Yes, surviving outweighs desecration. I wanted to point out why canibalism - even if necessary as in this situation - is an emotional subject, to put it mildly. Recarding the cultural perspective: a culture/religion with a strong emphasis on the afterlife and its dependence on the state of the body or burial rites might (have) view(ed) cannibalism as destroying someones souls. However since the existence of life is not debatable, unlike the afterlife, I believe todays perspective is more objective
@denelian116
@denelian116 2 жыл бұрын
@@styrax7280 i know i have a slightly weird reading of many things, because i was raised pagan. I don't totally grok many monotheistic social artifacts (i mean, i know what they ARE, i just... don't totally get them) As far as i can tell - i did a huge paper on this, lo these many years ago the first time i was in college - cannibalism is a cultural artifact that transcends religions. Almost every European, Asian, Australian, and American (both) culture rejected cannibalism (I'm ignoring Africa because a)i wrote this paper 25 years ago and b) all i really remember is not bring able to find any VALID sources) And that's one of the parts i find totally fascinating. Think about it - it's against Jewish and Muslim law to eat pork, because pork wasn't SAFE. But other culture don't have this prohibition (not even other desert cultures) because they weren't dealing with the same physical reality of unsafe pork in those conditions. Yet cannibalism is one of the few almost UNIVERSAL taboos - its so taboo, *we're not even taught that it's taboo*. We just all somehow KNOW it's bad. The desecration factor seems relevant to the taboo, in that i think it's possible that fear of bodily desecration grew out of an unspoken fear of cannibalism, at least in part. It's interesting to note that various witch hunts in Europe that focused on werewolves had a similar universality of cannibalism as one of the crimes of the "werewolf" (even the ones who didn't actually seem to have killed anyone still often ended up with a charge of cannibalism) When and where and HOW did this taboo become so embedded as a cultural meme, we all just KNOW it without ever being taught? (I really wish i was rich and could just go ryo college for forever...)
@styrax7280
@styrax7280 2 жыл бұрын
@@denelian116 these are good points but I feel like you skipped my point that the body is a standin for personhood. Have you looked into cannibalism in the animal kingdom? It seems very rare so there might be an instinctual, evolotionary aspect to it. Also, please not that I simply lack the engergy to engange the subject on the same level as you.
@urpalval88
@urpalval88 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Argentina (US born and now living in Mendoza) my parents told me about this story growing up and on the anniversary of this event here in Argentina they always play interviews and documentaries about it . I also want to reiterate what another commenter states but the KZbin channel Ask a Mortician has an amazing episode about this .
@cassandralyris4918
@cassandralyris4918 2 жыл бұрын
True facts: I had to read this in highschool in the 90's (96, if you're wondering). A lot of other kids just could not get through it. I distinctly recall getting to the skull bowls part. I personally appreciate its honesty, but I can see how it squicks britches.
@SilverAnicore
@SilverAnicore 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I can just see all the ways this book could have been Hollywood-ified in a dark parallel universe: - There are female survivors on the plane now, but only to be the love interest(s) to the main hero. - One of the (possibly darker-skinned) survivors now becomes the evil saboteur of the group. - We regularly cut to heartless Chilean / Uruguayan officials who try to stop rescue efforts. - The cannibalism is either ommitted or portraied as the last resort because better options were made unavailable by above mentioned saboteur. - Wise old guy / mentor figure who sacrifices himself on the last expedition to allow the hero to find civilization. - ...
@AntediluvianRomance
@AntediluvianRomance 2 жыл бұрын
- The hero and the girlfriend refusing to partake in cannibalism and surviving on one chocolate bar his mom gave him or something.
@stephaniewilliams6756
@stephaniewilliams6756 2 жыл бұрын
Why is this so creepily accurate to what movies dramatize?
@ThaliaVSD
@ThaliaVSD 2 жыл бұрын
I’m Brazilian and my mom lived in Chile when she was young so she told me this story when I was a teenager, she has a weird interest in plane crashes and likes telling them while on a plane (it’s lovely). A few years ago a Brazilian soccer team went through a similar accident but sadly all died so many more Brazilians remembered this crash
@dashy4375
@dashy4375 2 жыл бұрын
Uruguayan here, thank you for the way you discussed the tragedy, it was very tastefuly done. On another note, I'm not surprised they talked about Latin Americans instead of Uruguayans in the movie, it is not unusual for non-latinamericans to hear "Urugay" and think it's in Africa, but, what is to be done?
@cassie7377
@cassie7377 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this movie being put on while I was over at a friend's house as a young teenager. I became very upset despite not really understanding what was happening, as my friend and I had been busy setting up a marble game. In the end, we went upstairs; I think we somehow sensed the story wasn't just a narrative someone had written up. That, I think, is a testament to the film's portrayal.
@SunnysFilms
@SunnysFilms 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for handling this so respectfully and tactfully. This was before my time, but it's still a pretty famous tragedy, even in the US, even today. I always felt for the survivors, for all they endured, and for their families. Love and respect to all of them.
@JohnSmith-xs1ml
@JohnSmith-xs1ml 2 жыл бұрын
There's a few books on the subject. Two of my favorites are "Milagro en los Andes" by Nando Parrado (one of the two survivors who climed down the mountain) and my real favorite, "La Sociedad de la Nieve". The author stated that he would only publish the book if all sixteen survivors contributed a chapter each.
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 2 жыл бұрын
This movie was so hard to watch, and it's also very sad, knowing what the survivors had went through.
@alarcon99
@alarcon99 2 жыл бұрын
The Catholic church’s initial critical attitude towards the survivors because of the extreme measures they had to take to survive was a contributing factor for me leaving the church; along with their position on Terry Shiavo, abortion and use of condoms to prevent AIDS.
@CH-or4fe
@CH-or4fe 2 жыл бұрын
Oh hey, I actually talked about this book with a friend just a few days ago. I only read the book and suggested it to them (after falling into the rabbit hole of reading about mountain climbers and their frankly insane quests)*. I wondered whether the movie would be good. Will definitely send this video to them as well! *obviously not quite the topic of this book but sooner or later one just encounters more stories of people surviving in impossible places.
@moonkiitty
@moonkiitty 2 жыл бұрын
We read Alive in my English class as a freshman in high school (14/15 years old). I remember looking at the pictures of the passengers and desperately hoped the sister of one of the players would survive, but she didn't survive more than a couple days. Then, I hoped that the oldest passenger and his wife would survive. I was so hopeful when they said they wanted a baby when this was over... but then she died in the avalanche. It was devastating to read. :( It was hard to watch it all play out on the screen when we finished reading the book. In a way, it was comforting to know that my own faith was the same as theirs, and that the power of their prayers, which were familiar to me, saved them in some way or another. I prayed for them as I read, not knowing the ending, but wanting them to live and see the end. And they did. Thank you for covering this.
@amariscox8552
@amariscox8552 2 жыл бұрын
Would you ever consider doing a Lost In Adaptation for “Mrs Frisby and the Rats of NIMH”?One of my favorite books as a kid and so WILDLY different from the animated movie!
@meaganblack1529
@meaganblack1529 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the Ask a Mortician video on this incident, which goes into the details of the crash, deaths, cannibalism and survival strategies that these individuals went through: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaqtqoOnbNGFfcU. If Dom's video doesn't go far enough into that stuff for you, check out the one by Caitlin--because that one has the incident itself as its subject, rather than the book and movie about it.
@meaganblack1529
@meaganblack1529 2 жыл бұрын
It uses the books "Alive: The Story of the Andes Survivors" by Piers Paul Read, "I Had to Survive: How a Plane Crash in the Andes Inspired My Calling to Save Lives" by Pablo Vierci and Roberto Canessa, and "Miracle in the Andes: 72 Days on the Mountain and My Long Trek Home" by Nando Parrado and Vince Rause as sources, alongside non-book sources.
@spangelicious837
@spangelicious837 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched that when someone else mentioned it uptrend. Very thorough and well done. Also watched her video on Hiroshima, the Donnor party, and Titanic, but I think that's enough death for me today.
@ailem2707
@ailem2707 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning and being respectful for the faith. Honestly, the comments under Caitlyn’s video were a bit too ignorant for me in that regard. I’m crossing my fingers that this won’t happen here.
@ellicel
@ellicel 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t realize there were several books written by the survivors. It’s interesting that the one chosen for adaptation was not one of those but one written by someone else. I hope this doesn’t get remade (as everything else seems to be now); I’m not sure this story would survive not getting fictionalized in today’s blockbuster climate.
@merrittanimation7721
@merrittanimation7721 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting seeing an adaptation that involves real life events as opposed to mostly or completely fictional ones.
@alisoncandiloro2947
@alisoncandiloro2947 2 жыл бұрын
One small correction: The collection narrated by Stephan Fry does NOT include every SH story. Because "The Case-Book" collection of Holmes stories is not included, most likely because it is still under copyright while the rest are public domain. This especially sucks for me, the resident Arthur Conan-Holmes super-fangirl because my all time favorite Sherlock Holmes story "The Illustrious Client," from the Case-Book collection obviously isn't included, bleh. You are however correct in your main point! This is a fantastic package with a fantastic narrator, and honestly it's worth a full credit all on it's own, especially for the interludes written by Fry himself which cover his history with the stories and certain trivial involved with the behind the scenes of the series!
@andreagriffiths3512
@andreagriffiths3512 2 жыл бұрын
I read Nando’s account of it and it was harrowing. They were certainly extremely lucky to survive.
@TheOnlyToblin
@TheOnlyToblin 2 жыл бұрын
*rushes in, takes a seat* Lost In Adapation is easily my favorite show ^^
@Logitah
@Logitah 2 жыл бұрын
The ending credits music made me tear up. Your sincere wish for us to take care of ourselves also warmed my heart.
@dubbingsync
@dubbingsync 2 жыл бұрын
One of those survival stories I've only ever heard a little bit about, didn't realise it was so awful. Don't blame them for resorting to the measures they did.
@ahouyearno
@ahouyearno 2 жыл бұрын
That description of what they ate brought me to tears. Not of disgust but of sadness. I can’t imagine what they must have gone through
@jeremygoodwin9068
@jeremygoodwin9068 2 жыл бұрын
As someone for whom discussion of cannibalism is genuinely upsetting for reasons I fail to fully rationalize. Thank you for the trigger warning and timestamp!
@pattheplanter
@pattheplanter 2 жыл бұрын
Have you done _The Serpent and the Rainbow_ by E Wade Davis? That has to be one of the most Lost adaptations ever. Popularised factual account of ethnopharmacologic inquiries in Haiti turned into wacky horror by Wes Craven.
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 2 жыл бұрын
tbd Wade Davis/that book has an iffy reputation in sci/anthro fields too, but absolutely agree the film went in an altogether wilder direction & would be a good Dom one.
@pattheplanter
@pattheplanter 2 жыл бұрын
@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 It has an iffy reputation because the anthropology establishment didn't like the idea of someone doing something so sensational and then writing a very popular and sensational book about it. No-one has done any fieldwork that disproves any of the findings in the book or the properly published research article. Lots of academics had "opinions" about it from their armchairs. Hopefully they are retired now.
@kousetsuhana
@kousetsuhana 2 жыл бұрын
love the serene mountains with snowflakes as background. so happy you changed tradition from the old very strong colours, they were a bit overwhelming for people like me
@petrosinella
@petrosinella 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the Monty Python sketch where they're lost at sea and close to death. One of them offers his body for the rest to eat when he dies. This leads to an argument/negotiation where they all pick and choose parts of each others' bodies to eat based on expected quality (one guy has a great calf, another a healthy arm, etc.). Believe it or not, it was hilarious!
@albuszx
@albuszx 2 жыл бұрын
Look of the history of the Essex shipwreck, it's basically this plot but real! They drew lots and everything. The Essex was also the inspiration for Moby Dick. I recommend Ask A Mortician's video on the subject, she tactfully injects some lightness in the otherwise harrowing subject
@petrosinella
@petrosinella 2 жыл бұрын
@@albuszx Thanks! I love Ask a Mortician.
@jackiesue9907
@jackiesue9907 2 жыл бұрын
I read this as a young teenager. I was profoundly moved by this "dispassionate" book. Almost 50 years later I still can not bring myself to see this movie. Young and impressionable I was struck by the realization that human beings are amazing. Our survival and the unlikely survival of these boys is no accident....
@tecpaocelotl
@tecpaocelotl 2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the movie in 94 in 4th grade. It's one of those movies you can't forget.
@cussedcat28
@cussedcat28 2 жыл бұрын
Nando Parrado wrote an account of his experience, and it's really powerful. The parts about him wanting to live to reunite with his dad had me in tears.
@KazeShikamaru
@KazeShikamaru 2 жыл бұрын
This was a touching story. As a huge fan of Rugby and former player, I am so happy most of them made it out alive. This had to be scary.
@joseguzman5456
@joseguzman5456 9 ай бұрын
Revisiting this story after watching Society of the Snow
@hjalfi
@hjalfi 2 жыл бұрын
The reason why cannibalism is such a widespread taboo is that humans _really_ aren't fit for human consumption. I mean, have you seen what they eat?
@cayreet5992
@cayreet5992 2 жыл бұрын
The main problem is that we cannot fight off any bacteria which are in a human body or any viral diseases. If we're eating another human, we're running the risk to get sick from it.
@hjalfi
@hjalfi 2 жыл бұрын
@@cayreet5992 Parasites and prion diseases, too. Kuru was a well-documented prion disease in some people in New Guinea caused by ritual cannibalism and the consumptions of brains: it was similar to Mad Cow Disease and caused fatal brain degeneration. And, of course, it would get passed from person to person as the diseased brains were eaten as part of their funeral practices...
@abegarfield7031
@abegarfield7031 17 күн бұрын
Also human flesh doesn't taste very nice. It's all stringy and salty.
@missmara4980
@missmara4980 2 жыл бұрын
You know which part of the video made me wince most? How many people survived the initial crash but died immediately afterwards due to no help being available. That gets to me more than the actual cannibalism. Well, that was something. Thank you for covering, as always. :)
@annelyle5474
@annelyle5474 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading about the real-life events in the Sunday newspapers when I was a kid. Thankfully they didn't go into as much detail as the book about the cannibalism, or I think I would have been scarred for life!
@mirandatilley2486
@mirandatilley2486 2 жыл бұрын
1. As everyone else said, you did a good job covering this story. 2. Congrats on the new editing job, Indigo!
@RedRock22Productions
@RedRock22Productions 2 жыл бұрын
Dom, I can tell you that the section on cannibalism was exactly what I was expecting. I'm glad you warned people about it for the squimish viewers.
@iliaalomia7798
@iliaalomia7798 2 жыл бұрын
Ecuadorian here, besides the tragedy the photography in this movie is just gorgeous.
@Caernath
@Caernath 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I’m fond of the movie Congo, if only because it gave us Ernie Hudson doing a Clark Gable impression.
@hiarhu746
@hiarhu746 2 жыл бұрын
We read the book and then watched this movie in one of my classes back in 8th or 9th grade. A very compelling story. Takes a special sort to persist and ultimately escape some of the bleakest environmental and psychological conditions possible.
@MichaelHampton-Whitney
@MichaelHampton-Whitney 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos to you for tackling this adaptation review. I wouldn't be able to do it.
@jvever4904
@jvever4904 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding a timestamp to skip the more gruesome parts. I'm watching this while eating lunch, so it's much appreciated
@acetrainerkat
@acetrainerkat 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: I watched this movie in high school. Not for English class, like you might think, but for Religion class. Thanks catholic school. My 11th grade teacher was nutty
@morganqorishchi8181
@morganqorishchi8181 2 жыл бұрын
Side note, but I appreciate the choice of ending music. It's nice that you were so respectful to the survivors' Catholic faith and included uplifting Christian music. It's the kind of thing they'd appreciate, I think.
@lynncornelius3733
@lynncornelius3733 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dom
@daniellemhall1358
@daniellemhall1358 2 жыл бұрын
Everything about this so sad and serious.
@Bethgael
@Bethgael 2 жыл бұрын
Good summary. Caitlyn of Ask A Mortician also did a really good overview of this tragedy, if people want more sensitively-told info.
@briannacherrygarcia
@briannacherrygarcia 6 ай бұрын
I've been fascinated with this story for almost a decade. I have read the book but I've only seen Society of the Snow. I'm still interested in watching this film to see how it compares.
@simoneyavar7086
@simoneyavar7086 2 жыл бұрын
Miracle In The Andes who was written by Nando Parrado is an amazing retelling of his experience. Highly recommend.
@lucalopez9604
@lucalopez9604 2 жыл бұрын
No matter how many times I hear this story it always gives me so much joy to hear they weren't judged by what they had to do to survive.
@giantmastersword
@giantmastersword 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, man. This one. Watching and leaving a report on this movie was part of a survival class I took once.
@elizabethsullivan1894
@elizabethsullivan1894 2 жыл бұрын
This went way better than I would have thought. Telling stories about a recent tragic event tends to be a--mixed bag, at best.
@ShyKaiju
@ShyKaiju 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad both forms of media and Dom put a huge emphasis on the magnitude of the situation
@drVarulv
@drVarulv 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loving how they drew the line at suicide but not cannabalism
@Pedone_Rosso
@Pedone_Rosso 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel! If possible I'd like to request a lost in adaptation for a book-film duo that should be quite pleasurable to experience and VERY rich in material for the comparison: "The Name of the Rose", 1980 novel by Umberto Eco ("Il nome della rosa", translating to the same exact meaning, in its original Italian language) and 1986 film film by Jean-Jacques Annaud (S. Connery and C. Slater as main actors). Thanks for the videos!
@paulaseabee8442
@paulaseabee8442 2 жыл бұрын
I still have my paperback copy of "Alive!" which I purchased new. It's still worth re-reading for the message of what people must do, what immense challenges must be overcome, to survive.
@katielancaster6376
@katielancaster6376 2 жыл бұрын
It's been a couple decades since I've have read the story or watched the movie. It was "nice" to revisit them both. I have always appreciated how much the story matched
@BanazirGalpsi1968
@BanazirGalpsi1968 2 жыл бұрын
In high school in the 80s, my English class had to read this book. We also wrote to one of the survivors. I wish I still had it, but he wrote back. In Spanish and the reply letter in his handwriting came with a typewritten translation in English.
@halucynki
@halucynki 2 жыл бұрын
Friday with lost in adaptation is a good Friday!
@squeethemog213
@squeethemog213 2 жыл бұрын
This is definitely one of my older grim dark memories. Learned about this in my early teen years. 😲
@tennyak
@tennyak 2 жыл бұрын
(Pretty sure this is the first time posting on one of your videos) I am a huge fan of you and your work. And this subject matter is an absolute worse for me. So you putting in the time code saved me an anxiety attack. Thank you so much for your thoughtfulness.
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230 2 жыл бұрын
I like the little detail of how Dom uses no background music AT ALL. A nice subtle mark of respect.
@thegayhare
@thegayhare 2 жыл бұрын
I found this book as a teen in a used book store for 50 cents and read it. I still remember chunks of the novel 20 years later... gods that's stuck with me
@deborahwager5883
@deborahwager5883 2 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks! I read this book in high school (not for a class) back when it was a new release, but forgot there was a movie made of it. The broken plane still makes random appearances in my nightmares.
@koivunen2489
@koivunen2489 2 жыл бұрын
I knew about the incident and the autobiography book, but not that there was another book or movie. I doubt I'll ever read or watch any of them because I prefer my gore entirely fictional, thank you very much, but it's nice to have these recaps.
@italosblogtalkradio4279
@italosblogtalkradio4279 4 ай бұрын
I salute Dom for choosing that song in the end instead of a parody song which I could have imagined would be hard to do seeing the real life circumstances of the film
@finna7824
@finna7824 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for every video you make! I really appreciate what you do, these videos are always so interesting to watch and seeing you post makes my day so much better.
@knz730
@knz730 2 жыл бұрын
I studied the book and movie in English in high school in Year 9 - which was when I was 13yo. I remember finding it very graphic and in hindsight this was a bold choice for such young teens to be analyzing!
@nicodiangelo9810
@nicodiangelo9810 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making these videos, Dominic. I'm quickly eating my lunch at work before another customer comes up and needed a break. This is exactly what I needed, even if I can't finish the video right now
@matthewarnold4424
@matthewarnold4424 2 жыл бұрын
Don't think I have ever been this early before. Big fan of the channel and your work, keep it up!
@Bondoz007
@Bondoz007 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the film when it was released and what a riveting, sobering story it was. There was a lot of emphasis on the fact that they were (top) athletes and young and very fit, which helped them survive. I actually wondered when Yellow Jackets came out if someone had seen this film and decided to use it as the basis for that show (I haven't seen it, just the trailers).
@askadi
@askadi 2 жыл бұрын
I just binged Yellow jackets this week and while there's some similarities to this story, I think it might pull from Lord of the Flies more. The girls in the show pretty quickly go native and actively kill other survivors in order to eat them as well as other..less socially acceptable activities.
@coyoteartist
@coyoteartist 2 жыл бұрын
This has been a story that I have long been freaked out by, but not because of what happen so much as how powerful a story it is. Some stories just have more emotion then you feel is good for you to deal with. I did finally in the last 6 months, watch a video on it done by Caitlin Doughty. Still feel overwhelmed by it, but at least I finally have a better understanding of the emotion of it then I did as a child.
@reyhanehallahbakhsh896
@reyhanehallahbakhsh896 2 жыл бұрын
love that he can always come up with something new to say about yt
@Zozette27
@Zozette27 2 жыл бұрын
Pablo Vierci was not one of the survivors. He was a journalist who helped Dr Roberto Canessa write the book. Only a part of Canessa’s book is about the crash and their survival, most of the book is about Canessa’s career as a paediatric cardiologist. At least six of the survivors have written books about their experiences - Robert Canessa, Nando Parrado, Eduardo Strauch, Pedro Algorta, Carlitos Paez and Coche Inciarte. I have read the first 4 of these and will be starting the other two later this year in honour of the 50th anniversary.
@petrosinella
@petrosinella 2 жыл бұрын
Have they all been translated to English?
@Zozette27
@Zozette27 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that are all available in English. I would love to read the book that was written by Carlitos’ father about his search for his son but I don’t think that is available in English.
@Zozette27
@Zozette27 2 жыл бұрын
the six books are Miracle in the Andes by Nando Parrado I Had to Survive by Roberto Canessa Out of the Silence by Eduardo Strauch Into the Mountains by Pedro Algorta Memories of the Andes by Coche Inciarte After the Tenth Day by Carlitos Paez
@CroobieLetter
@CroobieLetter 2 жыл бұрын
Such a breath of relief to see a movie based on a real story that is actually true to life and not trying to dramatize everything with made up character beats.
@k8tallison250
@k8tallison250 2 жыл бұрын
Ask a Mortician does an amazing job telling this story. For anyone interested in a more in depth look at this.
@deebeedaydreamer
@deebeedaydreamer 2 жыл бұрын
I'd somehow completely forgotten about this movies existence, despite actually vomiting in class when we were made to watch it. I don't think I ever knew this was based on actual events. But obviously, my memory of it is spotty.
@seanmills7168
@seanmills7168 2 жыл бұрын
I, too, am working my way through the Sherlock Holmes collection as read by Stephen Fry. It’s fantastically enjoyable as you can hear the passion Fry has for these stories.
@tobibi5312
@tobibi5312 2 жыл бұрын
Such a cool video to watch!! I knew about the crash from Ask A Mortician's cover on it, but I had no idea there was a book that covered what happened (and also got adapted into a movie).
@Insaneian
@Insaneian 2 жыл бұрын
Always loved this movie, but my mother morseso. She was always inspired by Nando, had read both Alive and Nando's book when they came out, and recently did some sort of Zoom call class with him recently.
@sillylilly714
@sillylilly714 2 жыл бұрын
ok I can't believe no one is talking about how they denied this poor pilot a quick death? to me that's almost as terrifying as the rest of the story, what the fuck
@petrosinella
@petrosinella 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's because, for religious reasons, they were opposed to euthenasia.
@sillylilly714
@sillylilly714 2 жыл бұрын
@@petrosinella I know, still sucks for the pilot though
@hirocheeto7795
@hirocheeto7795 2 жыл бұрын
@@petrosinella Then they don't have to do it to themselves, but why should they deny the pilot's ability to do it himself?
@Kingdomheatsox2
@Kingdomheatsox2 2 жыл бұрын
My English teacher decided to make my year 8 class watch this movie as a ‘fun treat’ for end of term. The next day I had a flight to England
@popcornpanda3640
@popcornpanda3640 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this story. But now I gotta check it out the movie and the book. Thank you keep up the good work
@timeladyshayde
@timeladyshayde 2 жыл бұрын
I finally watched this movie on Friday. So it's rather amusing to see that's when you posted this.
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