Why Crafting Sucks for Beginners & My Reasons for Skipping CI

[@guitarsolos89]

Why is Alk acting normal in this video? I hope everything is OK? EDIT: nvm 6:00 and forward is proof he is doing well.

[@CourageToGroww]

The absence of turd, ass, shit, or stinkle in his vocabulary is kind of concerning

[@wavyhermit5230]

dude is a narcissist lol.

[@coi]

@@wavyhermit5230 ive been watching him for years and he wont stop talking about how good he is and how bad other people are

[@wavyhermit5230]

@@coi yeah he also has a drinking problem. Thank u for agreeing. If anyone ruins Poe it would be this guy

[@metamon2704]

@@coi But he's right, also it's not like he is dissing people, he explaining how it's easy for him to understand but new players wouldn't know.

[@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274]

The is no crafting in POE 2, there is a “add a random modifier to this item” button that comes in multiple colors but does that exact same thing

[@burningpipe2627]

Incorrect. Omens, annuls exist. A fine reminder you dont listen to the average casual opinion if you want accuracy or validity.

[@tagnati5585]

There are no annulments in poe 2

[@ryanbeatbox8274]

@@tagnati5585 An Orb of Annulment in Path of Exile 2 is a rare crafting currency players can trade or use. The orb removes one random modifier from a magic or rare item, making it an essential tool to make precise adjustments. You're just lying for the sake of lying

[@BenghisKhan]

​@@tagnati5585there absolutely are

[@Zanaro97]

@@tagnati5585there are no annulments yet

[@lazy1126]

I know how to craft and how mods work, but thats also why i hate crafting in poe 2. who the fuck thinks this is fun? ssf crafting is pure gamba and trade crafting is unobtainable since the omens are way too expensive.

[@darkflower1729]

Yeah sounds like either you memorize the mods and can tell if its worthwhile to ex an item or not, or you just ex it anyway without knowing, and either way you're praying it hits. Might as well just pick up rares off the ground, pure gamba limits how useful crafting really is

[@framinthor]

"why crafting sucks" as a whole, not just for beginners, this crafting system requires you to either memorize a huge list of tiers / affixes / prefixes or to have a list ready which the game does not provide, and all that work to STILL play a game of chance and brick 90% of your items

[@spencers1485]

You don't have to memorize anything lmao. Just slam shit that's good already

[@framinthor]

@@spencers1485 even better, you dont have to slam shit that's good, just find good drops... fucking genius lol

[@spencers1485]

@@framinthor what? Why would you memorize lists of affixes as a new player? Get rare. It's got 4-5 things. Seems decent. Slam. This "crafting" is way less knowledge intensive than anything poe1 has had for years. Juat slam shit and it's either good or bad. Bang. Noobs first craft.

[@DoctorStrange01]

@@spencers1485 Crafting is a failure the moment you get a decent item with 5 affixes and you need 1 exalt to pull a slot machine, while you can spend 1 ex for a better item and you won't have to pull shit :D That's a pretty logical thing to do if you're either a beginner, or don't have time to grind 24/7 like those streamers to have enough items and currency to craft on for fun and eventually roll good stuff. Cause if you are an average player with limited time, you won't waste all your exalts on gambling, you will go and buy your whole equipment for it and it would be guaranteed :D Needed a good xbow for my Merc to start mapping, bought one with around 400 pdps with the best affixes possible for my build for like 20ex. Wonder how many hours would i have to grind for to eventually get a good base for that and then not destroy it with "crafting" :D Took me 0 maps to get the currency to buy it because campaign and i breezed through everything with it up to like t13. Very noob friendly. That's why crafting in PoE is bad. I would much rather prefer something like Last Epoch has, but crafting is a crucial part of the whole itemization system, so it can't be simply changed without changing how items work, it'll stay this way forever.

[@wastingmylifeaway4898]

If you aren't crafting with poe2db or craft of exile (craft of exile has some preliminary weightings now, so it's better than poe2db now) when crafting, you're literally a noob. You don't need to memorize shit. Just know math

[@Dantesjoe]

This is fantastic. I've been looking for a solid in depth crafting guide for POE 1. Apparently they have been made, but any search I make and youtube generates ever "the REAL best way to craft" by some dude that is regurgitating something from another video whom didn't know what they were doing either.

[@egrassa1480]

You will slam exalts and get disappointed. There's no crafting in this game, just gambling

[@Navis_86]

The player's stun and ailment thresholds are based on the player's maximum life as if this keystone was not allocated, rather than using the new value of 1.

[@Soft-m2m]

This would explain so much. I’ve left self mortification unspecced for multiple maps without getting stunned, but I constantly see people complain about getting chain stunned

[@Rseven777]

Please explain more, i grabbed that 1hp node and didnt know about this threshold dependency. Is there a thread that explains how it works?

[@midknightcrisis8612]

​@@Rseven777 since no one has replied to you, here's the short version: the chance of a hit to stun/freeze you is dependant on your HP and the physical/cold damage hitting you, generally. What ppl mistakenly assume is that Chaos Inoculation, the keystone making your HP turn to 1, also lower your resistance to stun/freeze, and fear that every physical/cold hit will stun/freeze, and that is just untrue. Wasn't true in PoE either, so no clue how Alkaizer as a long time PoE veteran didn't know and also didn't bother verifying this.

[@fast1nakus]

Slamming randomize button is not crafting.

[@no_opas]

generating items it is

[@wavyhermit5230]

@@no_opas nope lol

[@jooj5392]

@@no_opas you don't need to know shit about he talked in this video if the only point is slamming with exalted orb

[@no_opas]

@jooj5392 idk what you mean by that, but TRUE W

[@Sleepywalk112]

@@jooj5392 Not true, cause alot of people dont know when to stop exalting an item and when to not even exalt from the start, which is also one of his keypoints.

[@nekocat34]

Tyrannical Expert Crackling Quarterstaff

[@DannyLYX88]

is this the new best base?

[@itsallinthepast2944]

Its gambling not crafting

[@BTChanOSRS]

ludopaty trap, truly disgusting for anyone that is ne to these casino mechanics in games

[@crafteded2645]

I am definitely trying ssf. Thank you for the video and the advice

[@mace448]

i had poedb open all the time to know what where rolls, helped for the start.

[@kjy112]

The exit was extremely informative. Best part of this video. Will watch it again!

[@Lexacus_94]

I have no idea why "Dricklesmear is Pikachu but brown" cracks me up as it does

[@aetherblackbolt1301]

I googled dricklesmear and literally 0 results turned up. What's that?

[@TickleDoesRSL]

Raichu is brown too

[@obesechicken13]

Stun threshold with CI is stun threshold based on health w.o CI

[@rcola5]

Thanks for this upload mr. Editor, i watched this on stream and this is really important information that I didnt even know after 2k hours of poe1

[@therocklau]

No, you are wrong about stun threshold on CI, it's calculated on your "would been" life amount, even in POE1 it's like that, it uses your character's total life with no gear and passive bonus, not 1, 1 is just a number for shown not for calculation. And in POE 2 since most characters have no life nodes, their would been life is exactly the same at same level, 12 life per level + original life, without the influence of strength or anything from gear, which might as well be 1200. If it uses 1, and like you said "any cold damage can freeze me", then why there are so many archmage spark characters going CI+MOM+EB? Not only they have 1 life, they also have no energy shield (to add as additional stun threshold thru passives) yet they don't get stun or freeze often at all.

[@burningpipe2627]

nearly all CI MoM EB spark chars run Everlasting gaze, the ones who dont also run dream fragments. And they do get stunned, in the rare instances they ever get hit. That being said there is a 200% increase stun threshold support while skill is being used gem.

[@Valverde713]

​@@burningpipe2627yupp I run everlasting gaze, and it is still possible to get frozen or stunned which is why I anointed my amulet with ice breaker. Now I don't get frozen, stuns while they don't happen very often because melee enemies are typically dead long before they can touch me it can happen is shit gets hairy

[@yexulz]

world of warcraft has begun

[@genesises]

world

[@xDvoa]

why does he say that?

[@majdan07]

@@xDvoa because world of warcraft has begun

[@LittleRadicalThinker]

For the Horde!!!

[@maXXXthesilent]

it's funny that this vid was first in my feed right after watching one where belton finished crafting his mirror quiver also ggg REALLY needs to revert to poe 1 tier labeling

[@baconx6476]

I'm a new player and I started SSF simply because the idea of trading for power is just too lame for me. I don't care if others do it, but for me, it goes directly opposite of what I find fun in a game, which is either finding your own gear or crafting your own. I'm trying to get better at crafting, but even if it takes me much longer, I will never devolve into needing to trade. Ever.

[@oliverong3753]

I'm playing trade league without trading so i guess i'm also ssf? But i still don't understand crafting. What are mod weights? Where do i start?

[@Ascension88]

@@oliverong3753 Is your question about weighting? or the actual mod weight values? Weighting just means certain mods have a higher chance to hit when you slam an exalt. The actual values are undetermined however.

[@oliverong3753]

@Ascension88 how does weighting work? I know that the actual Tier of the mods is completely random. Is there a good guide on how to craft for poe2?

[@lokhaxz803]

You might kill a Pinnacle boss by the time the game makes a 1.0 release then lol

[@baconx6476]

@@lokhaxz803 It might be longer than that and I'm okay with it lol Ain't gonna be trading, shit's lame.

[@Cucumiso]

so true - in poe bench helped a lot - i dont have that much time to play like mayby 30 h xtimes per year - so what i would like to see -to before orb drops - to se the potential outputs not even asking for %chance - it would be nice ;)

[@reganCZ]

I do not understand, why the item description does not dsplay a distinct line beteen affixes and suffixes .. that alone would help a lot.

[@ezet]

It does. On the right side where you can see the small tier indicator (just T and a number) hover over it and it shows if it's prefix or suffix

[@bidondhuile2740]

@@ezet ty for info, but still horrible system from ggg. not even a separation line on the tooltip. game was rushed as fuck

[@reganCZ]

​@@ezet welll i am playing on controller gui (on pc) and it appeears you need to change something in settings to see that. Hovering is of course not possible also you do not see the T's on controller gui from the get go - you need to enable it somehow :) I should have mentioned I am not playing on mouse ..

[@yungmil6969]

all my buddies who never played poe 1, came from d4 or other "simple" arpg´s have no clue about crafting... they always hope to get a "complete" rare item drop which doesn´t require any affix to be added or crafting done to it. Most of the time they only stack all the orbs / currency in the tabs without really knowing what they do.. Something needs to be changed to accomodate the fresh fish too..

[@bidondhuile2740]

well tell your friends to read. ofc, the next step is to trade probably but still :)

[@AKASupertigra]

SSF this is when your game has begun

[@GYarnykh]

In 3.25 i significantly upped my poe1 knowledge and HAD to craft because I started as SSF. Despite the fact that played for 4-5 seasons before that

[@balvin8524]

@@GYarnykhsame here but in 3.21, just one league in ssf makes me so much better as a player, and a lot of it actually transfer to trade league (gearing up early, be efficient etc)

[@Somerled_Pox]

@@balvin8524 Seems a lot of active players play a league or two in SSF and move back to trade having learned a lot of new things, so I wonder how many people who try the mode stay in it and never go back to trade

[@fast1nakus]

@AKASupertigra idk. I always played semi-ssf. Only buying the crucial uniques for the build, rest crafting myself. Been working fine for me.

[@AKASupertigra]

@fast1nakus good for you maby you a bit more exped player , but as new player i think it still better to Play as ssf and learn how to rng items , remember possible affixes and suffixes than try to play trade

[@Snowy123]

I recommend SSF too, playing trade league it feels dumb to spam use exalts to craft since you can just buy a better without RNG. On SSF you don't care lol. Although everyone in this youtube comments are already hardcore POE players

[@getoutofmylobby4347]

Depends on the person i guess. I dont mind playing SSF if i have a reasonable way to accuire and work towards really good gear. Picking up a bazzillion white and blue items and spam them with random mods is not that imo. In the current state i can only play trade where i atleast have a reason to farm currency, because it will result in better gear eventually.

[@Dropbare]

Using exalts on decent-to-good gear in my experience pays off massively and I'm not even good at "crafting". If you have a basic idea of what can happen, it will give you far more value than the few regal/exalts you put in. No need to be so tight with exalts, they drop aplenty. Seemingly much more exalts drop in poo2 than chaos does in poo1.

[@cheddarwhizard1639]

​@@Dropbare I hear you, but I prefer my systems to involve more of my own input and planning. Even though I can look into weights and tiers, I prefer to have a system where I can influence the outcome in reasonable and impactful ways so it feels like I had some agency over the outcome. Omens are meant to be that, but are too rare, and greater essences are extremely rare. Hopefully that lower the RNG factor just a tad. I don't need an item editor, but I would like to be able to tip the odds more before I go SSF.

[@getoutofmylobby4347]

@@Dropbare this concept works well during campaign/early map progression. But i am not going to find a plate belt with 170 life 200 armor 30+ strenght and then going to exalt 2 35+ resistances onto that. Before that happens, my character is level 100 3 times. + if you are playing trade, you dont want to use exalts because saving for buying is always more worth then gambling.

[@TheArnoldification]

an issue I have with SSF is it's very RNG to get a unique you may want that makes a build you're going for actually work

[@EthCirah]

First person I see mentioning Icebreaker for not being chain frozen 💜It has been my life saver since day 1 I've entered maps.

[@FrogUppercut]

It took me a while to understand mod weights and such, and playing SSF made me have to learn all this. CORGOSDANCE FLUTE CORE POOP SMEAR FECAL STRIKE

[@oliverong3753]

How do i learn mod weights?

[@susus1130]

@@oliverong3753 you dont, you read the data mining info

[@FrogUppercut]

@ poe2db, and in poe1 there’s a site called craftofexile (probably will be updated for poe2 in the future) that listed all the mods items can roll and the weights attached to them all

[@DoctorStrange01]

@@oliverong3753 Well you don't in-game, in typical PoE fashion. Now in PoE 2 they have a modern tech of explaining stuff after pressing ALT, but they forgot about all the hidden stuff you still need to google :D Oh well.

[@Taqu3]

I am playing as a melee warrior and hardstuck. Is there a site which shows the item stats, their tiers and chance of rolling the desired modifier ?

[@midknightcrisis8612]

Ppl are working on it, PoE2DB is already up and working on the same thing its predecessor did for PoE, but the data hasn't been updated yet for weightings. The tiers are already listed though, so you can check there if the mods you have are good. There's also a crafting simulator site called CraftOfExile for PoE which does the weighting math for you and tells you the chances. No idea if they're working on an update for PoE2 though.

[@AuroraTheFirstLight]

We don't know the weights of the mods and it doesn't really matter either way as we can't really craft in poe2 Why will the information be relevant

[@QckSGaming]

Craft of exile 2 shows you a pretty good idea, but I have no idea if it's datamined or guesses.

[@Taqu3]

@@QckSGaming Thanks.

[@danielsecara]

There is POE2DB which shows you all the base items and their implicits + affixes, but we have no idea about the weighting. But even if we had access to all the info, there is no actual crafting in the game at the moment. All we have is close your eyes, slam and pray.

[@neck_acrobatics]

What about ground slam but it's brown slam and you create waves of poop?

[@totallynottrademarked5279]

My problem with a lot of the systems in the whole game come down to how conflicted they are with GGGs mission statement for PoE2 - Make combat more sweaty, make systems more noob friendly... they fail at both. Unless you try to use armor on a warrior. Then they succeed at the first but not the second.

[@apathyreaper5323]

Battle Babies select your char! Corgos. Hermes is fat. Grailys. Otis.

[@Amatsuichi]

there goes my expectation to get some insight into crafting :)

[@jaheski5548]

issue with the CI stuff (atleast atm) is i can get so much spark damage that i dont need to solve stun or freeze and i can just go more damage because everything dies before its on my screen anyway

[@andrewwilson201]

As a noob player, he is 100% right. Crafting seems nuts. I’ll just buy through trade fuck it.

[@bidondhuile2740]

it s not that nuts, but it requires shiton of farm. a lot of what you re seing on trade is former gear of people that upgraded and failed attemps at better gear. or as classic poe1, people picking up few rares here and there and putting that in a stash tab with or without looking at it and decreasing price of all the items in the tab over time.

[@Electrichead64]

I picked up on it really quicky and realized that most crafting just simply wasn't worth it. I might drop a Regal or Alchemists on something and if it hits with something desireable, I might craft it further, but most likely its going to end up being a waste an ex or 2. Sometimes I get lucky and I've made ROI by investing 2 ex and selling for 5, but generally it not worth it.

[@runslinganOG]

Monk feels so good ! Keep it up

[@SunnyDeLite]

Could you take the time to add your gear? Wondering how you get to 5k ES with evasion es gear

[@mavs187]

need a tooltip or something that shows the options in a table when they are about to use currency on an item atleast the tier which they took away for some reason, and maybe a help window with an explanation like with the skills for each currency

[@thisisnttaken]

im new to ARPGs and POE2 is my first one. i have 265 hrs in and i hate trading, i want to play SSF but ive heard many stories about how brutal and grindy the RNG is for "crafting". i also want to learn alot without having to look things up and look at other peoples builds. my question is, should i just jump into SSF and bite the bullet? will it help me learn more about the game and how to make builds for myself? is it new player friendly?

[@Sorain1]

My best suggestion would be to play PoE 1 for a while so you can experience what the Crafting Bench does to that game. (Or Last Epoch, but that's a VERY different crafting and itemization game in general and thus less useful as a point of comparison.) I'm in the camp of 'there is no crafting in PoE 2 yet.' because there is nothing you control other than 'spend currency or don't' which... that's literally specialized chip gambling.

[@thisisnttaken]

@@Sorain1 thanks for the suggestion, however i dont think i will play POE1 but i understand theres proper deterministic crafting in that game from things ive read. i do agree that its just gambling with currencies as POE2 stands though, regardless if i understand how weighting and such works.

[@spencers1485]

No you should play trade and get over your hate for trading.

[@tagnati5585]

The campaign is very doable without trading. Pretend you play ssf and finish it, you are gonna get a lot of fun, and only then you could engage in trading.

[@thisisnttaken]

@ that’s how I’ve always played, I don’t have problems during the Acts. It’s mapping

[@axxessdenied]

I played a tiny bit of PoE but not enough to actually gain knowledge. I'm in HCSSF in PoE 2 now after getting an invoker ice strike monk to maps in standard. I'm having way more fun in SSF. Maybe it's because I've played a lot of RPGs over the years and enjoyed D1/D2 quite a bit. But, I dunno.. once you "craft/roll" a few items it's not that difficult to understand what is happening. All we really need is a bit more information in the tooltips for the orbs where I can hold alt and some of the mechanics are explained further. Easy fix really. I don't particularly have a problem with the randomness/gambling aspect of crafting because this game is obviously very heavily influenced by the D2 approach and I don't believe they want to make getting to max level with all the best gear something everyone can just do with zero effort. The chase for that elusive piece of gear is part of what made D2 such a long lasting game.

[@Neurotik51]

When I began PoE however long ago I remember the first divine orb I found I questioned whether it just rolled the mod within the tiers range or whether it changed the tier, so I tested it and got my answer. I was entirely self-motivated to learn all the intricacies of the game because it was just fun to do so, I'd never seen a game so immediately complicated. Many people call it overwhelming but it made me extremely happy to have such a fun puzzle to solve, even over a decade later I continued to learn new things each league. The beginners in this game who will continue to play it will also be self-motivated and ask these questions. I don't really think the transparency of the game will have any real outcome on that, the same people will quit regardless. Besides the questions people have to ask are much simpler in this game because the decisions are much simpler.

[@Xlaws]

the first time i opened the skill tree in poe back in syndicate i was like "god damn its seems like you can do a tons of thing in this game" and immediately start reading /pathing without knowing whats good or not and just having fun experimenting

[@Katastra_]

I think the issue is that at the end of the day GGG do want to make money, and expanding the player base with poe2 is a good way to do that. I disagree that adding transparency to how crafting works, among other systems, will do nothing to change player retention. Of course people who enjoy the puzzle like yourself will stick around, but for every one of you how many other people who aren't into that will quit without sticking around long enough to consider buying stash tabs or cosmetics? Even if they only stick around for one more league than they might have otherwise, or if they burn out and leave but on a less frustrated note and are more likely to jump back in during a future league and so are again more likely to consider spending money on the game, I 100% think it makes sense to improve those pain points.

[@IncredibleGoliath]

@@Katastra_ ​ the only transparency they could add is by putting the mod info from poe2db directly into the game. But a lot of people just aren't going to be interested in applying that knowledge to weighing the odds, making decisions about when to spend currency, etc. That lack of deep interest in how items are generated is the real reason people want deterministic crafting, but those people should simply trade or look for high-tier items on the ground, not demand GGG turn PoE2 into PoE1 or LE. I think it's incredibly typical that the guy on reddit had chosen to play trade league but didn't want to trade, and also knew he didn't have enough life but complained about the game being too hard. Trying to pacify players like that is the kind of trap Blizzard fell into.

[@alecantropo98]

Shame that if you ask questions the answer is often: noob go bad to d4bad

[@epicexx5114]

This is not crafting it’s gambling. Crafting you usually have a lot of control over what the outcome is:

[@A-a-r-on]

As a new player, may i just ask: where do I even learn what i need to learn? KZbin is flooded with the clickbait videos and it's really really rough to find comprehensive explanations or discussions

[@zomgree]

In the depths where shadows lie, Korgo, devil's dog, stands by. Alkazizer's flames ignite the night, Zakey, Zacky, Zachee, and Zakyu, brothers in the fight.

[@assemnoot7491]

Why you cursing our bro alk with your spell

[@mikem4395]

Harvest was my second league in PoE1. God league for crafters but I loathed it because I had no clue what I was doing. Plus I hated building those stupid farms. I’m there to kill - not to plant seeds and set up irrigators

[@PressureCracksToHealthySnacks]

I've been playing SSF for most of my POE 2 playthrough and its been really tough to get chaos res. Found out i can farm chaos gems but i cant take any of my old runes out of my gear so im stuck finding new gear so i can put chaos res gems in my gear haha

[@rickfowler273]

Gambling is not crafting. It’s just a time sink. Some innovation here GGG. Yeah, game of year, sure.

[@janitorizamped]

Ea?

[@stixnstonez1590]

As a new player who has crafted some insane pieces of gear I gotta say the crafting system was pretty easy to pick up, it’s literally just gambling. (which I enjoy) I can see why some people won’t like that though.

[@Ascension88]

Gambling does not equal crafting. The word crafting has intent behind it. If you slam a 4th mod that's undesirable is that really crafting?

[@stixnstonez1590]

@ uhh yes… in this game that is the literal definition of crafting.. again I can see why you wouldn’t like that, but keep in mind no game revolves around what YOU specifically like.

[@akutooth]

​@stixnstonez1590 lol just because you change the definition doesn't make it reality. Poe 1 had crafting. This games equivalent is to crafting is gambling. It's still not crafting. Just like if your end game boss was a white mob, you could say it's a boss, but we all know it isn't a boss monster.

[@stixnstonez1590]

@@akutooth oh ok how do you craft gear in poe2? 😏😏😏, honestly I can smell your iq from here… and it’s burnt. Oh and btw in my original comment I said the crafting system in poe2 is literally just gambling, so I’m not really sure what the point of your comment is honestly.

[@akutooth]

@stixnstonez1590 you're still calling it a crafting system genius. Crafting gear in poe 2 with any kind of deterministic ability is locked behind omens requiring a very large entry price.

[@lokhaxz803]

Another reason everyone will use trade is that crafting requires a lot of currency items (which will not drop)

[@GIGAOMEGANINJACHAD]

why was a high tier mod less likely on the staff that he had equipped, but equally as likely as a low tier mod on the chest

[@razzikwastaken]

because that's how they designed the game, weapons are a lot more impactful so getting a really good one, is and should be a lot harder

[@Ohnonono123]

​@@razzikwastakenthat's a shit answer. The real answer is that damage mods are weighted towards low tiers but defense mods are evenly weighted

[@user-mfsc-2024]

The crafting currency say exalted orb is too rare during campagin

[@koilerREC]

eternal Orbs solved that problem for a long time, something like this is sill missing how you can reset your item. I know that eternal orbs were quite rare, and powerful but at least you had a chance...to undo your missing craft.

[@KalosAmigo]

Bottom it up and then bottom it down 💥🗣️

[@ExpertAtAll]

Every ARPG should try and make a crafting system like Last Epoch.

[@YM-ex8hh]

I know, im a noob but made progress with my slowpoke warrior. I will carry other noobs for free once i get strong enough to farm trials Serious

[@stainx3976]

There is no “crafting” in poe2 , its purely gamble and the “crafters” are the ones playing 12 hrs a day or play the game as their job to generate enough currencies to gamble. The actual semi gamble-crafting being locked behind omens is so dog shit.

[@acksawblack]

How is that any different than poe 1 lol

[@scornfulbongo]

Trading is so weird. 30 DMs no replies. 31st DM invited me. Price was 2 divines, put 2 divines in trade window, trade canceled. DM calling me a scammer. Wtf poe?

[@Anfa18]

I'm not a PoE player and a super cas PoE2 player due to work and life commitments, this vid is everything I fear in 2 years from now.

[@warpath375__]

7:30 Life of a warrior. Get hit a billion times before attacking.

[@dota2wtplos405]

If the exalt drop would Change with Chaos drop there would BE more crafting available

[@Cadence256]

8 hours in POE1, Came back for POE2. I'm currently in act 2, and I still don't know how to craft anything.

[@billthecanuck]

i'm kind of that way when it comes to crafting in poe2, i just farm the currency to trade for the item i want, i don't understand how to make stuff, i get a good base i slam a couple exalts and hope it's good lol. i'm guessing different tiers of bases widen the range of mods an item can get but i have no idea how that works.

[@VAILLPaul]

can someone confirm that your stun/freeze treshold equals to one if u go ci? some people seems conviced that your tresholds are based on your pre CI life pool, and i can't find a real answer

[@VAILLPaul]

anyone?

[@LaymensLament]

why is the chance to get a higher tier roll on the stick higher? ive been crafting and selling a lot of hats n boots but i thought mod and tier is just random. unless its the t2-5 things tgat gives u better rolls?

[@Ohnonono123]

Damage mods are weighted towards lowest tier, defense mods are random

[@DeadInsideDave]

tbh the only time any of less full time players craft is when currency is everywhere. if all ur gettng is a few exalts a day your barely gonna try crafting if ur new.

[@FoosballGG]

Wait wait wait @ 0:55 he says when exalting an energy shield mod on body armour it's random whether it hits high or low tier. Then he says if he exalts a physical dmg mod on quarterstaff it's extremely unlikely to roll high tier. But he doesn't elaborate any further on how it works? I've been using tons of exalts in ssf trying to get a decent damage item and failing. Is it just based on which mod you roll? Is it based on item level or rarity or something? Why is tier probability different between an energy shield mod and a damage mod? Any resources or guides appreciated.

[@th6410]

Item levels determine how high mod tiers can get. Generally, most mods have equal weight between their possible tiers (attributes, resistances, max life...). For example, an average ilvl body armour can only roll 6 out of 7 tiers of max life. Each tier has equally 1000 weight. In total, you have 6000/X chance to hit max life, with X being the total weight for every prefix mod tiers that can roll. And then, you have 1/6 chance for the mod to be either of the 6 tiers. For dmg mods (Added Phys, F/C/L...), higher tiers have lower weights. The difference is usually drastic, like 25 weight for the highest tier vs 1000 weight for the lowest tier. So let's say, you pick up a magic bow with a suffix and open prefix. An Aug has like 1/19 chance to roll the %Phys mod (3775 total %Phys weight, compared to ~57k total prefix weights), and when it does, you have 25/3775 ~ 0.66% chance for it to be tier 1. So all in all, it's 25/57k ~0.044% to hit T1 %Phys with an Aug. Just look at poedb for the exact weights.

[@n0l0g1n6]

Very hard to explain. basically, every mod has a total weight, let's say you slam physical dmg % which should have a total weight of 1000 divided by its 8 tiers, so you'd assume every tier would have a weight of 125(just an example, I dont know the real weighting values), but in reality tiers are unevenly weighted, with the higher tiers having less weight. Comparing to poe 1 mods, the lowest physical dmg % tier has 1000 weight, while the highest physical dmg % tier has a whopping 25. And yes, item level matters, the highest physical dmg % can only roll on ilvl 82 bases. As for why "tiers" are different between defense(energy shield is a defense mod) and damage, that's just the way it is for some reason, it's all based on weight. Defense mods usually are evenly split across its weight, while damage mods are not. This is why certain damage mods are so expensive in trade, like +minion gems on helmet, or +levels on amulet, because they have very small weight to happen. PoE 2 database has no weighting values datamined yet, but you could look Lolcohol's crafting guide video, it's 3 years old and has a lot of PoE 1 jargon, but the same principles should apply to PoE 2

[@Forestdwellr]

POE 1 or 2...I never trade trade and I have no idea what you are talking about and I still have fun!

[@divinityai]

is there crafting in poe2? Didn't see one

[@gutoguto0873]

yep, that's right

[@adnantheone]

Anyone got the update passive tree? The one in the guide is a bit outdated compared to what he is using in the video.

[@HuDiNiT]

So much facts in this video. But no mention of the spacebar gameplay? alklfgsmom

[@Nunz10]

i've played proably 10 seasons of poe1 and now poe2. i have never been able to understand how to craft things in this game because it takes a million calculations to do it properly, or some 3rd party site to show you the possibilities. I've always used the trade site to buy gear, and use a tool to do price lookups on items that i find that i think might be worth something. All of my income is generated either by direct currency drops, or lucky sales from drops. never crafting

[@PropaneWP]

Is there an actual reason why GGG decided to make crafting as opaque as possible? Or is it just a lazy way to give the game "depth"?

[@Phobosten]

All scaling on poe2 is done on "base" value? so CI happens after your stun treshold has been decided?

[@roamin9871]

When crafting is harder then the game, theres an issue. Wheres the basic crafting bench like poe1? That would help atleast

[@mozes88]

Ez to get in, extremely hard to get a complete grasp of it. They legit should make guide videos for it.

[@LarsJ1977]

His take on new player crafting is spot on how it felt for me, and since trading feels like cheating, I just got bored and quit the game.

[@vigilance3109]

This is me, i don't know wtf im doing when it comes to attaining better gear.

[@MrLuck356]

Your crafting explaination is so true ! I'm a huge noob in crafting but I have basics from poe1, how the fuck am I going to explain to my friend prefix and suffix if it's not indicated anywhere?

[@ezet]

The game shows which stat is prefix and which suffix on the right side of the mod, where it shows the tier of the mod. I missed this for a while as it's so low contrast

[@gountaa]

Wait so some mods avec weights added to differents tiers and some do not and it's completly arbitrary and not explained anywere ???? I'm on PoE2 db and it doesn't show any weight on any mods but i'm guessing it's just they don't have the exact stat anywhere ?

[@razzikwastaken]

correct, I believe they don't allow showing the weightings on purpose, you can look at poe1 db to get an idea/grasp

[@Flmf1984]

Its WAYYYYY cheaper to get your rez/mapping set via trade tham trying to craft yourself. You can get a 4 or 5 out of 6(maybe not the best rolls but decent) for 1-3 EX per piece. Crafting a 6 stat piece yourself takes 3 EX and a regal and you still have to get lucky. Because the way economy is anyone not SSF should trade initially then transfer to crafting

[@Dropbare]

Thresholds (e.g. stun) with CI is based off of pre-CI life values. It is NOT based off of the 1 you do have. Now it works like this in PoE 1, and it seems to be working the same with PoE 2.

[@Gregski3]

Everyone is so impatient, people compare themselves to no living streamers and feel bad they are behind. If you are noob you can play campaign for few weeks, then gradually become stronger. Have bad gear then farm for better or farm currency to buy bit better gear piece and farm more items/currency. If you are noob dont expect to have a end game character within few days

[@NickyByloo]

The UI needs to have a noob option for explaining or guiding end game crafting and loot ratings. As a noob, this is what I would like to see. Is it possible? Probably not without a ton of extra work by GGG. So no easy way forward for noobs, expect to brute force experience and learning the hard way.

[@duruzhkovivan7556]

Anyway , Happy New Year! @alkaizerx

[@Barewell]

the poopypants bit made me sub

[@akutooth]

Dude, stop the cope. This isn't crafting.

[@Possu81]

But why does it need to be noob friendly?

[@crafteded2645]

Not going to lie. I wanted to understand crafting, I tried to understand crafting, but it is extremely daunting.

[@StrueSlies]

Let's keep it real though Alkaizer, most players in Poe 1 used trade, small crafting in P1 is better and easier then P2 but crafting endgame or close to it gear took to much currency, It's the start up cost for most. I do see myself crafting a lot less in P2 but maybe that will change because trade is so expensive for above average gear.

[@akutooth]

Nah mid to end crafting will be even more expensive because of the omen cost. This games 'crafting' system is absolutely dog shit.

[@danielsecara]

So much for „new player onboarding experience”.

[@JustTooChill]

lets be honest, the new crafting suck for everyone

[@screamosaic]

Lmaooooooooooo lil bro thinks noobs are gonna be confused by how crafting works. My guy, I’m lost on what stats I’m even supposed to want in the first place. The bar is set WAY too high if he thinks this is the part noobs will get lost on

[@janitorizamped]

​@@screamosaicI don't understand how you can be confused about what stats you want

[@screamosaic]

@ pretty simple, 0 explanation on what any stat does. Do you know if you want Mastery on your Affliction Warlock? No? Yeah, same thing.

[@janitorizamped]

@@screamosaic there's literally an in game explanation for every stat. Can you not read? Are you talking about WoW and just assuming I understand the reference? Lil bro, if you still play retail wow then you're on a whole nother level disabled and I doubt you can be helped lmao.

[@matthiaszapf1171]

its seems soo much about just possibilities.. most people would like to have a certain outcome. not a random outcome. maybe thats why most of us randoms are not really interested in crafting

[@Mister_Vintage]

I know about prefix/suffix/tiers/etc....but definitely know that so-called "crafting" in POE2 is a waste of time and currency. There is no crafting in POE2. It is simply gambling, losing, vendoring.

[@NoxDeadly]

I’m confused why yall call it crafting when you’re just adding random mods

[@nightyonetwothree]

even if you know how the mods are added to rares, it's still better trade if you aren't stacking tons of mf.

[@annereilley4892]

i thought omens were the way to craft, but are way too expensive for most people.

[@Exzeph]

They need to flip the tiering for the mods to be the way it is in POE1, where T1 was the best and T2 is the second best -- and so on. If nothing else at least new players will know where a mod is on the hierarchy. It is stupid they flipped it because, it is a lot harder to know what the best mod is now like flat damage can be T9 but other mods stop halfway at T4 or T5. There's no way to intuitively know that -- it is severely unfriendly to onboarding.

[@bidondhuile2740]

ggg at it again doing stuff for sweaty guilds that love crunching all the data but this time with fundational knowledge. braindead move from them

[@Dragnaab]

WHAT is that why im getting insta frozen, im runing CI?? :D

[@Sarexos]

So its just gambling and not actually crafting?

[@LawfulNutral]

Ohh look, I've exalted light radius. Again.

[@sjwhater]

Why is this guy looks like he's the greatest and wisest arpg player ever