All Blitz, Abilities, and Keystones RANKED! - Warhammer 40k: Darktide Tier List

All Blitz, Abilities, and Keystones RANKED! - Warhammer 40k: Darktide Tier List - Summer 2024

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@MyAccount-q2g 3 ай бұрын

As someone who exclusively plays veteran, i would disagree on a couple things. 1) VoC is obviously the best veteran ability, but Infiltration isnt very far off from second place, definitely an A-tier pick. It's active utility for revives/stealth mission activity is obvious, but even as a flat damage booster its very nice to just pop for full toughness, bonus damage, and reduced threat mid combat, and pairs extremely well with anything stacking cooldown reduction (node/curio perks) when you have two 45sec charges the value you gain from that reduction is significantly higher compared to VoC/Exe Stance. 2) Marksman's Focus isn't actually best paired with slowfiring careful headshots, but i think pairs best with the shock trooper recon lasgun builds, where you spew enough shots to consistently build stacks faster than you lose them, even when sprinting/dodging/running around the map as normal since you have 3/5s where stacks cant be lost on ranged weakpoint hit/kills every engagment will be immediately going to 10 stacks and staying there until you switch to melee for a while, rinse and repeat. I dont think any of the follow up nodes are overly important, but marksman's focus itself is a great way to passively increase your critical DPS as a shocktrooper by an honestly huge amount, which in turn further improves your ammo efficiency

@MisterEtide 3 ай бұрын

Yknow, maybe i was too hard on infiltrate. It can be honorable a-tier, because you put so much effort into explaining your use of it, you have persuaded me

@thunder2434 3 ай бұрын

A Scriers Gaze Psyker emulates a Zealot close combat build, you seem to float around and you're very fast moving and fast attacking for the duration of it. If you're used to it this gives you a lot of advantage vs enemies despite you being a frail psyker. I think mostly it's useable for Zealot main players that play Gun-Psyker because they can't use the Space magic abilities effectively. This is how I've been playing psyker because I just wanted the four leaf clover penance (All classes at lv 30) and I couldn't figure out how to even play Psyker with the Space magic stuff. With the right build and weapons you can mow down enemies in close combat with Scriers Gaze. For instance when I turn it on and I also use the Deimos Force Sword, defeating Ragers is easy peasy and charging up the sword and getting a thrust in on a crusher, they don't even have time to react or hit back. Also that charged attack usually kills Crushers, at least below Damnation difficulty. What you need with it is a crit build and using specifically a low recoil Autogun works best with it as a side effect of that. If you're good at shooting guns in FPS games you do get a fairly powerful character and no need for staff skills or peril quelling. You have to build the right synergy to get the full effect out of Scriers Gaze though, just on its' own it's not great but with other things added is becomes a beast. Like adding Soulblaze so you get that damage added to close combat attacks and other skills to regularly head pop enemies you hit with the weapon. It's really rewarding when you fight a Rager or Crusher in close combat and your sword hit just pops their head because it gives instant brainburst (it sometimes does, but maybe 1 in 10 enemies). Is it better than other Psyker builds? Is it even as good as the others? No. But it lets you play as a psyker if you don't know how to psyker and still get a decently playable reject... :)

@candlestyx8517 3 ай бұрын

Some of these I disagree with wildly, especially shredder grenades. They offer great stagger, as well as decent damage and slap strong bleeds on everything in a wide radius; they easily wreck crowds of shotgunners and ragers. They also can often buy you time to get a knocked down teammate back on their feet. Easily A tier imo.

@Mancboy2000 3 ай бұрын

I use the rumbler with Point Blank barrage, with single shot weapons that +70% reload basically means +70% rate of fire; so with the rumbler you can fill a corridor with grenades in no time at all. And as for Brain Rupture I sometimes pick it for the meme, cos you can make it randomly trigger on-hit, which can be very funny and sometimes actually good if you're lucky on like a Surge or Purgatus staff or gun-psyker with recon/autogun.

@MisterEtide 3 ай бұрын

I think the augment on brain rupture is good, its free damage. The problem is that the actual ability itself is so garbage and isnt fun to use.

@Mancboy2000 3 ай бұрын

@@MisterEtide Oh, the ability itself never gets used, I treat it like a passive whenever I go for it.

@El-Burrito 3 ай бұрын

I haven't switch off Point Blank Barrage + Achyls stubber since this update came out. It's unbelievably fun and effective for how fun it is

@hrupalwens5001 3 ай бұрын

Momentum not being S tier is crazy. The damage bonus is massive value on high finesse damage weapons like rashad, crusher, and knife, and also has a hidden stat which increases dodge speed and dodge distance by 15%. There's a reason Fatshark nerfed this down from 20%. Also Shredder Frag grenade being in C and not S is honestly just misinformation at this point. Easily the best Veteran nade. I just saw Scrier's gaze in D tier. Gunpsyker is literally the highest dps loadout in the game, the value eclipses stuff like barrier when the player is actually good.

@MisterEtide 3 ай бұрын

I think I should have rated momentum higher, I have been playing with it lately and it is a nice buff. However, I don't think gunpsyker is actually that good unless you are top 1% skilled, sure it does dps but dps does not equate to consistent runs. I run scoreboard mod, and I haven't seen any gunpsyker putting out impressive numbers, either.

@a.a5983 3 ай бұрын

@@MisterEtide⁠ I understand where you’re coming from but conflating Scriers with “guns” is probably why you ranked it D tier. Its also an insane buff to melee. Psyker has access to the one of the most OP melee weapons being Mk4 Dueling Sword and the scriers buff really puts it over the top. Still enjoyed hearing your thought process for your rankings and might make my own if I ever find the time. Do you have a link to the tier list with all the icons already set up?

@Torinatorr 14 күн бұрын

You're not playing with a good gun-psyker then. Any decent gunpsyker should out DPS most any build in this game outside of Trauma/Venting. @@MisterEtide

@thunder2434 3 ай бұрын

Fury of the Faithful is in my book S tier. I guess it's just personal preference, an A-tier ability is still really good so yeah, it might be A tier for most. How you value it depends on the skill of the user and the build and weapons chosen for maximum effectiveness. So for starters, it refills 50% toughness adds considerable attack speed and you can target a single enemy to deliver an automatic crit as well as closing the distance extremely fast. Like a human cannon ball, or like a human torpedo perhaps. But this isn't all it can do. It can be used not just to charge a single enemy but also to emulate the Ogryn Bull Rush, only shorter and not giving bleed damage and they don't go flying but get stunned and off balance for a moment. You can tear away from being surrounded and held in place by lesser enemies using this, even push aside crushers. Anything smaller than a monstrosity. You can also use it to multi-attack enemies you pass if you have a weapon with high cleave, slaying or damaging a number of enemies. A whole line of gunners can be cut in half with a good close combat weapon and time the attack doing this. You do stagger all enemies you torpedo into, not just the targeted one which means you get a bonus hit in on even groups of Ragers and then back pedal to avoid their reciprocating attacks while hitting them again as they advance. But you do get a short time window to do this, with an automatic crit and then a period of boosted attack speed and damage. You can also torpedo into a monstrosity and while you don't get them off balance like the ogryn Bull Rush can you're also very hard to hit and you crit. If you combine this with a chain weapon heavy revv attack and time it right the damage caused even to a monstrosity is massive and the revv attack stunlocks them at least for a short moment. Enough to back out to the end of the revv tether and duck the reciprocating attacks. A revv locked monstrosity can turn and strike but cannot move or jump away, note here that the chainsword tether is slightly longer than tentacle range of the Chaos Spawn and Plague ogryn, while doing it to a Beast of Nurgle that's hit you with its' spew attack (they can only grab and sallow slimed player characters) is more risky. You'll probably get grabbed as you'll be slower than usual. Another useful way to use the skill is to dodge surprise bursters by sprinting out of range at the last moment. You still get the refilled toughness and the bonus attack speed to use on enemies for a duration of time even if not hitting one with the charge so it's not totally wasted. Another useful thing is if you have two charges you can sacrifice one to just regain 50% toughness instantly if needed, though this is a bit wasteful. With the Fury of the Faithful coupled with an endurance and speed build the Zealot becomes a horde plowing, monstrosity slaying beast that can close on enemies like gunners that are critical to get rid of. Yes the holy relic is also very useful and boosts the whole group and looks very immersive pushing back the heretics, but choosing this takes away the Zealots best offensive weapon. Having both Zealot types on the same team is awesome though. One thing the Holy relic does is you can push enemies off ledges to fall to their deaths, even monstrosities and Demonhosts. Using it that way makes it an offensive weapon and yes, it should remail S tier as well.

@MisterEtide 3 ай бұрын

FotF would be my most likely to bump to S, and it is probably my most used ability. I still rate the other abilities in a higher tier because of their gamechanging status, having one at the right time can save the whole game. The effect in isolation of one chorus/shout vs a charge is I think why I see those abilities as so dang powerful. Gold shields are just THAT good.

@Calx9 3 ай бұрын

I think you did a great job explaining why it should be a high A tier. I think it's a good thing for tier list to take into account the average skill level. And I don't think most people on average will get that kind of value out versus the shout. But if they know what they're doing then it could possibly surpass shout quite a bit.

@thunder2434 3 ай бұрын

@@Calx9 Thanks and I totally agree. Most users aren't instinctively used to it but we are a few who played Zealot from launch or even earlier and have been using Fury of the Faithful charge as a multi purpose tool for closing distance to lowering armor class on big heavies to escaping bursters or busting out of being encircled to experimenting with even more extreme ways to use it for that the devs may or may not have intended. The average casual Zealot player won't get that utility out of it so then the shout is better, easier to master. But just to make you want to try this here's a fun build I run currently: So go middle top to flame grenade but also add right top backstabber, Scourge & 15 toughness (I'll explain why). After immolation grenade go left and the until death/ Holy revenant path to Benediction. Then down to Fury of the Faithless (x2) go left final leg down Punishment & +5 movement boost. Middle leg Faithful frenzy + health boost + Faiths fortitude (The middle leg is optional) Right leg to Swift certainty and Inexorable judgement + retributors stance. Then get a good rolled Mk13 Chainsword with wrath, savage sweep, Add + damage to Unyeilding & carapace is my preference but it's not critical. Because you'll be plowing through chaff with this mainly. Then here's the special thing I found: get two +3 Stamina curios and give them resistance to gunners + stamina regen + sprint Efficiency Then one +17% Toughness Curio with sprint efficiency, stamina regen and there's one slot left you can put anything you want in. I have +10% revive speed right now but any one you want. Since we got that +15 toughness in the top right path we can use just one toughness curio. I even tried three +3 stamina curios but I found you got too vulnerable vs chaff. So then what you do is cut down a few enemies to get the ball rolling with the weapon blessings, then plow into hordes hewing the chainsword. If done right it won't just crit-kill one but a whole path into them. If too many go back out. Otherwise use the second fury charge to go through. Also mow and spin the mouse and dodge and circle and slide. Zig-zag the mouse (this chainsword is very fast, almost combat knife fast once you get all the skills activated) and sidestep or slide to catch many enemies with that crazy high cleave from the dual blessings. Blocking stops you from killing so I use it only sometimes if I get stuck or need to push enemies. Every trick of Darktide close combat, just use it. :) This'll function like a shorter bull charge but killing instead of bowling enemies over. Used together with an Ogryn that has the bull charge you can doubleteam and really tear large enemy numbers apart. This is Zealot horde mower unleashed and it needs the Fury of the Faithful to work.

@leoverperez8111 Ай бұрын

if hav been ogryn since beta,protected the lil uns over an over with dat rock of those mean muties but u sayin dat the big friendly rock isnt good hurted me,i get really mean wen someone hurts me...i tend to toss my rocks to them

@CommentaryDiatribe 15 күн бұрын

Big rock can stunlock monstrosities when thrown at the face at the right time over and over.

@edoute 3 ай бұрын

interesting perspective, thanks for sharing

@Calx9 3 ай бұрын

I only have 247 hours in this game but it's scary how much we agree. Literally no disagreements from me.

@MisterEtide 3 ай бұрын

Thats because we both have the objectively correct opinions

@Calx9 3 ай бұрын

@@MisterEtide You encouraged me to stop following builds and go with my intuition. Just finally cleared my first 3 auric missions with no trouble with a Psyker smite + dueling sword build. So thank you! Love you videos man. Thanks for helping out, you make the highest quality videos.

@ByztinBadger Ай бұрын

I agree with a lot of what you say, but I’ve gotta get my gripes in here because you have some rankings that are bonkers to me. Scrier’s Gaze is easily S tier and gun psyker + Columnus is better than almost any staff in raw slaying potential. It gives you an enormous damage buff thanks to the multiplicative stacking of finesse damage along with its damage and crit damage bonuses. That damage and finesse damage boosts persist up to 10 seconds after gaze ends as well. The movement speed boost and toughness damage reduction perks as well give you great survivability. Combined with Disrupt Destiny and it turns really any gun you’d want into a pure damage hose with all the crit boosts you’re getting. DD stacks are laughably easy to get and upkeep since you don’t even need to kill the mark to refresh the buff and only fall off one at a time. Oh and on top of that DD and gaze give you such huge movement bonuses you can dodge across half the map and move faster than a knife zealot. I’ve been able to blaze through half a monstrosity’s health in one Columnus mag with gaze and DD. Aside from that gripe, shredder frags are a great panic button with their stagger ability and bleed and you can spam them so often thanks to vets grenade regen talent. Great for handling a pack of ragers. Grenade box is a worse frag bomb and worse rock, its damage is so inconsistent. Frag bomb is the single best panic button in the game. There’s a reason even pubs know to keep their ogryn well fed on grenade pick ups through out the game Aside from that I wholeheartedly agree with your take on Martyrdom. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve gotten in arguments with dudes who try and say martyrdom is good for this that or the other reason when it just makes your performance in the 90% of times you’re not getting killed worse.

@methenjoyer4090 5 күн бұрын

I think the entire issue with Martyrdom is its calculated through wounds rather than HP. If it worked like Zealot in Vermintide 2 it would easily contend with the other two keystones.

@teddyroosevelt9654 3 ай бұрын

I run a point blank barrage Ogryn build with the rumbler grenade launcher, that’s what’s the 70% reload speed is for, whenever a monster shows up, pop special and unload 10-12 grenades in 10 seconds sometimes multiples nades when you get a lucky bullet proc, spec for sticky and unyielding. My build melts everything but it’s ammo heavy and a lot of fun to keep things perma staggered with the rumbler. I’d consider it at least B tier the only downside is the cooldown and ammo drain, but with the right perks and buffs it’s not so bad. I combo it with that shovel with the nice special attack overhead, it’s a really fun strong build.

@naseweis6105 15 күн бұрын

the ogryns rock would be better if we could throw it instantly like zealots knives.

@Sylvie0512 16 күн бұрын

I dont know why everyone who talks about Martyrdom only focuses on the damage aspect, there's the attack speed addition as well. It rounds out so many of the slower weapons and makes them feel so much better to use (and is actually noticeable). I couldn't (and don't) even play with the Eviscerators or Thammers without it! I do agree with the statement of the perk being a trap but only for players with a lack of experience in the game. As someone who mainly plays Zealot and mainly plays with the Eviscerator and Thammer whenever I do have time to play, I'm able to make things work and I tend to only ever play with other Marty Zealots who also know how to make things work (I play a lot of auric damnation and maelstrom). I really do wish people would give the keystone more credit at times but I do also understand the stigma it has. I liked everything else in the video though :D

@CommentaryDiatribe 15 күн бұрын

I think they need to abandon the wound function altogether and simply make it a % of health and that'll fix it immediately over all difficulties. Including changing the +2 wound talent to like 20% extra hp.

@AllTheRooks 2 күн бұрын

Some absolutely *wild* takes here. Interesting that someone who can play the game at a high level can completely miss on certain things so wildly

@MisterEtide 2 күн бұрын

This was ~600 hours of playtime ago for me, i wont claim it to be evergreen

@AllTheRooks 2 күн бұрын

Fair enough!

@MrVideonator 3 ай бұрын

I used to hate martydom but with the combo of book and the replenish health talent I think it's a perfectly fine keystone. Also I usually try not to be on one wound if I can help it. Being around 2-3 wounds can still give decent damage and toughness damage reduction. You'll probably, naturally, take enough chip damage to get to that last wound but you can hang around that for a while. I think anyone who wants to instantly be on that last wound is just asking to be one shot. With book you can also quickly restore any missing tougness and regen the book fast enough due to how tanky you are with the "reduced cdr with damage taken". I'm not PSYCHED to be using my curios on it however I think my survivability with it can be worth the sacrificed curios if I play it right. Mind you I still prefer the old version where it was based off of health%. I would give it a B tier personally. Still think the other 2 keystone definitely are better tho. (small aside but going down and getting picked back up with 90% health is a niche but nice bonus).

@MisterEtide 3 ай бұрын

My main problem with it is that it is it should be a “high risk, high reward” sort of talent, but the reward is just not there. It requires dedicated trinkets with the *illusion* of making you harder to kill. In reality, you are giving up 60% hp for next to nothing in terms of damage. On low difficulties it is probably really nice, but on maelstrom, one down at the wrong time or location is death, regardless of your number of wounds. That is why i said i think this talent is noob bait, the vermintide version of it makes you play on a razors edge for some serious benefits, this one just makes you a liability. That being said, if they made it so every missing wound gave 5% movement speed, i would be creaming my jeans

@sweetlue2007 2 ай бұрын

I was a blazing piety guy too for so long. However, Inexorable Judgement is by far the better choice for 90% of builds. You also will be triggering pious cut throat all the time for 20% cdr. and is much faster than invocation of death post nerf. All that being said - sometimes you just want to crit and don't care about being optimal.

@MisterEtide 2 ай бұрын

I just routinely play the builds that do want the crit, and it’s like the best crit ability in the game. For anything thats not axe or dagger, IJ is really good

@Bigotsandwich1995 19 күн бұрын

The zelot knives are entirely ranked off of the player,if your god tier then so are they if your c tier so are they if your trash so are they, plus if your atleast b tier with them then they make the bolter WAY more viable. Pull out the bolter if you need a big burst of dmg or just throw a knife if your needing a snappy response like taking out a sniper Also brain burst isn't terrible but it does take some investment with the faster cast on ability use and the warp battery tree,doesn't make it god tier but you do get alot of milage out of it. Also you should be charging up the cast ahead of time when you know something is coming

@sdporter1983 Ай бұрын

Smite, S tier. Finally. Vindication. I always see people saying smite is terrible. Thanks Engee, enjoying your content. Keep up the great work.

@Bigotsandwich1995 19 күн бұрын

Smite good,it's the people running it that are usually the problem, ran into dudes that just forget they have actual weapons or seem to forget that their back is completely exposed when using it

@CommentaryDiatribe 15 күн бұрын

It's the stunlock grenade that you can end in a massive push, that has a larger area than every grenade in the game. Even with 0 of the supporting talents it's still the press this in case of emergency. I want to say using it to shove enemies to the ground is the only way I can secure picking a teammate up when they're surrounded.

@drstranger4407 3 ай бұрын

Venting sheak has ludicrous range and the soulfire can wipe all chaff at 100%

@yaboirichard591 2 ай бұрын

Once I saw smite at S tier and the other bad placements I knew this whole list whack. Glad this is a small channel so more people can’t see how awful this list is and actually listen to this.

@MisterEtide 2 ай бұрын

no youre actually wrong about your opinions and my opinions are the correct ones

@yaboirichard591 2 ай бұрын

@@MisterEtide i am right because I average 700k damage minimum and my lowest character is level 715.

@CommentaryDiatribe 15 күн бұрын

@@yaboirichard591 What would you rank smite as, guy who's resume at this game is inconsequential to the argument.

@CommentaryDiatribe 15 күн бұрын

Keep in mind, you're trying to crap on an ability that you can't miss. That has a longer duration of CC than any other grenade effect in the game. That culminates in a shove to every target afflicted by it when left clicked, that also doesn't consume a limited resource. Oh and that also is impossible to kill you by going over your peril.

@yaboirichard591 15 күн бұрын

@@CommentaryDiatribe I rank it as C tier and that’s because it relies heavily on your team doing all the work. As a high skilled player I never once thought damn I wish I had a smite user with me. Like no bruh I’d rather have someone kill things than stagger because that’s more important.

@ShuraKaio 3 ай бұрын

Auras next please

@ITZBROKENhotDOG12 3 ай бұрын

throwing knifes one shot most specs and is basically infinte ammo is B tier wtf

@rami7601 Ай бұрын

Unless you have S tier aim, knives are b at most. + The reason they are B is because of the opportunity cost. The other 2 grandes are way too good at dealing with big problems, the knives are not.

@rollerhockeynovorossiysk656 6 күн бұрын

No offence, but... this is MOST UNPROFESSIONAL rank list of Darktide. I could assume that author just don't have enough envolvement in game, so he is not super well familiar with mechanics. However for low tear players this list could looks acceptable. Well it really depends of a sill level. Again - no offence, author just not at a proper level for the moment, to see whole picture correctly.