All Hype or the New AliExpress Homage King? - Seestern Vintage Sub 600T review | 4K | Lume Pip

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[@Watch_your_Money]

Disagree. I'm disappointed maybe in 1 out of 20 purchases. San Martin, Seestern, Pagani, Merkur, Baltany, Sugess, Phylida, Escapement Time, Addiesdive, Guanquin, APNUONR, all have exceded my expectations. In some cases like San Martin, quality is actually superb.

[@morgan.enfield]

I discovered today they have launched a V3 version with the correct hour hand size so I pulled the triger on, no need to wait the V37. Loved your humour too and suscribed.

[@LumePip]

Thanks, Morgan! 👍👍 And I might be picking up another in a different colourway with the updated handset. Just can't beat it for the price...

[@padrepilon]

Great sense of humor! Appreciate it!!!

[@raven_of_zoso455]

Had to hit the Sub button. An excellent review wrapped in plenty of sinister, yet snappy British remarks is just my cup of tea... Actually, I don't really drink tea, because I'm from Norway. Which is kinda like Scotland, but more wealthy, sober, and optimistic, and with slightly less rain and bagpipes, and you never see a bloke here with his bollocks hanging on the loose. I absolutely hate it here. Not because of the free-hanging mansacks, but the sobriety and optimism is pissing me off... Thanks, I'm already looking forward to your next review. Cheers!

[@bavarianwolf3806]

its on sale for me now, picked the orange/black ceramic bezel up for 114 Euros shipped on aliexpress.

[@longplayer8600]

I bought the same version before seeing your review. Spot on really, it's a surprisingly nice looking & well built watch. Next to it my Tactical Frog 300t looks like it came out of the Vostok factory...ugh. I actually like the clunky thickness although the 'small hand' on the hour seems like they're copying the Doxa 300t which is made with the smaller hour hand on purpose. Good job Seestern.

[@starofdavid4586]

I don't think you are objective ,Boris is a a handsome man 🤣

[@ikeman5774]

I received the blue dial version of the 600t a few days ago and I must say, for a little over $100 dollars, I'm impressed. Very nice build quality. I love the bracelet and the thickness of the case. Plenty of micro adjust and on my arm, it just looks fantastic. Yes, the hour hand may seem a little small, but it's fine for me. Great job Seestern.

[@LumePip]

I'm hoping to buy another with the slightly bigger handset. Unreal build quality for the price!

[@Jason-hv4eu]

Great review! Great sense of humor! Enjoyed the video👍🏻

[@LumePip]

Thanks very much, Jason!

[@halfpastblog]

Loved the humour. Subscribed!

[@LumePip]

Thanks very much!! Subscribed already to yourself 👌

[@johnswatchjoint]

Great watch. Was surprised by it and still wearing it now in blue with the ceramic bezel

[@matthewward3854]

Thanks for the review. Have been giving this one consideration.

[@G17-911]

Thanks for the review. I’ve been waiting for the seas to rise for over twenty years. Going to to stop waiting. Take care.

[@justmeandthewatch]

Great review! I've had my eye on this for over a year. After discounts on the most recent 11-11 sale, I got the most recent version for $120USD. $175 and up, there's better deals from San Martin and others, but for the price I got, this is an outstanding value watch. Interestingly, since Seestern began selling this model, Doxa has revived the 600t and it is now for sale. Aside from a better swiss movement, I would be willing to bet money that the Seestern is at least equal in finishing, if not the clasp.

[@LumePip]

Honestly, it’s remarkably close. I think it’s probably a wider purchase, the Seestern 😭I say this as a Doxa Sub600T owner

[@ccampbell1117]

I love the Boris Johnson quips , had me hooked straight away .

[@junjielinx4681]

Really tempted to buy this.. the quality to price is unbeatable !

[@harrietboulding1459]

Really engaging and lovely imagery! Great video 😊

[@Srulio]

Well, it's not a ripoff but to the naked eye it appears reasonably well specified and well made. But it don't look at a tool watch and expect to find the Mono Lisa.

[@johnmonachelli5256]

Anything seagull sugess or seastern in my experience has been very well done

[@wristcandy5451]

The sea has not risen in centuries friend, great review

[@WesWatchRoom]

Awesome review mate, your scripts always make me laugh. I do like these but I'm still waiting on them to do the 200, then I'll jump in feet first. As for this of course its got the issues it does, but I think its very solid for the price point.

[@YannickKhong]

Best review of this watch I have watched so far haha

[@LumePip]

Thanks for saying so, Yannick! Glad you enjoyed it :)

[@AndyinSG]

Excellent video. Just love your humour. You deserve more subs. I’m in. 👍

[@LumePip]

Thank you very much indeed! I'm a subscriber of yours too 👍

[@AndyinSG]

@@LumePip Thank you!

[@sopapillas6398]

This was the first time coming across your channel. Loved the commentary! Happy new subscriber and notification-er!

[@LumePip]

Thanks very much indeed!

[@ZERO_SVN]

I saw the Sugess ST19 on sale so I grabbed that. Saw the new Lapis Lazuli SN0129 and grabbed that too. Then I saw this...argh...had to grab a copy of the Shark Hunter colorway. Oh and got the blue PD-1778 (Patek Calatrava homage) too. Too many good sales on great watches. Before this last week, I was doing well in my watch rehab for over a year 😂. Between these, my PRS516 and my GM2100C-5A Casioak, I'm set for a while.

[@AlexanderB.]

Mate German for wave is "Welle" why don't you just ask? 😅 I like this watch, but I prefer the stainless steel bezel insert. Albeit it has one major shortcoming. On version 1 the used the same handset they used on the 300. Alledgedly there is a version 2 around with a slightly more beefy hour hand, although I was hardly able to see it. Maybe version 3 will have the even wider hour hand it shold have, even wider than the minute hand. Nice review mate! By the way, I believe the real 600t is just als thick...

[@thebrokebloke1352]

Bro, you killed with the Boris Johnson lines at the intro. Thanks for the post - gonna check this one out.

[@LumePip]

Thanks, mate! I think anything I say about politics, whether it's about the left or even Boris Johnson, rubs people up the wrong way - not unlike Johnson himself.

[@gpw8786]

So funny 😂😂

[@escapewheelwatchreviews2579]

nice review, man. got mine on wrist right now and agree with your review. it's quite a nice piece. and FWIW, my calipers read 13.3-13.4mm thickness. mine is a V2...so maybe they changed something else with the case? but, doesn't look like it.

[@LumePip]

Cheers, mate! Just FYI, I’m very, very glad you’re back on here and doing your stuff again. Honestly, just re-measured in case and I’m getting just over 14mm. I hope it does mean something has changed! I think it’s great except those little gripes - I’d love a slimmer profile, though.

[@tonyd223]

Your style works for me, proper funny. Thank you

[@LumePip]

Thanks so much for saying so! I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[@smolwatch]

Oof, this one is so tempting. Def don't see a Doxa in the cards anytime soon. I have a pretty similar wrist size, so glad to see this one isn't a dealbreaker, too. Hmm. Gonna have to ponder. Enjoying your vids! Keep it up, dawg.

[@LumePip]

I'd love to try the real thing and see if it could convince me to part with over a grand, but this does a pretty superb job until then. Thanks, mate!

[@zegiknie2654]

What colour shall i take

[@sergiogardoni1189]

The hour hand is small because in a diver the only important hand is the minute one.

[@MrPINKFL0YD]

The new v3 is super with the fixed hour hand new end links and a lumed centred date wheel. The lumed date acts. As a 3 o'clock marker as its obviously not dawned on you..

[@garmin1488]

I couldn't agree more with you about the movement, why not an ST2130 or PT5000? I lost interest in affordable Swiss watches when the switched to the Powermatic 80, I'd rather have the high beat rate and smoother sweep than the power reserve.

[@holokron1337]

Another great review! Cool little watch 😁

[@LumePip]

Thanks very much! It's a very nice piece for the dough

[@randymoses5239]

Great review...Picked up the Deep Blue ceramic bezel version today.....I'm in love😍🤩....and thanks for the chuckles......Paid $170.00 CDN....All in

[@LumePip]

Great choice! I considered that one myself, too. Glad you enjoyed it!

[@defender1006]

Yes, it's a cracker, I received my blue 'Caribbean' a few days ago and I absolutely love it, I also have a '300T' which is a very different case shape and fit, that's great too.

[@stefpix]

Which color did you choose for the 300T? between the 600T and 300T which one do you like and how is the wear different? Thank yoU!

[@twitchyjambo]

Great review 😂😎👍 love your style 👍

[@robertmcnee682]

Good review as always

[@hiramabiff885]

I spit out my Cabernet at the Boris Johnson comment. 😂

[@zezem]

The hour hand was from the 300T homage, so they just used them. Pleased they have given it a bigger one! The lume real estate on the hour hand is a negative.

[@RandomRobReviews]

hard to beat these darn things. I may try more.

[@LumePip]

I'd put one of these at the top of your list, Rob! The Tiffany blue one looks like a really nice colourway for this.

[@MarkSmith-tg7qp]

Great review Thanks!!

[@Mabbs079]

Great video, pleased to have stumbled across it. This manc will subscribe for more

[@emirsaracevic]

your jokes are excellent first 20 sec...i cant stop laughing

[@LumePip]

Ah, thanks so much! 😅

[@jamessher6956]

Like your review style, watch is pretty nice too.

[@LumePip]

Thanks, James :)

[@Flip5ide]

I've got a V3 on the way, all I care about is if the bezel lines up 😂

[@kronkita01]

Hey mate, great and funny review! From which brand is this beautiful tropical strap, I absolutely adore it on the 600t

[@LumePip]

Thanks so much for saying so! It's the "ZULUDIVER Modern Tropical Style Rubber Watch Strap" : www.watchgecko.com/products/zuludiver-modern-tropical-style-rubber-watch-strap-black One of the third-party straps I've tried. Pricey but I'm still using it 4 years later.

[@kronkita01]

@@LumePip thanks!

[@smgeraldo]

Think San Martin still has the edge, but for how long? Great review mate!

[@LumePip]

Imagine if they started Doxa homages 🤔thanks, buddy!

[@renebense]

What is a tachymeter doing on the bezel without the chrono function?

[@davemerchant8788]

Not a tachymeter - it's a non-decompression chart - Doxa have got a very useful write up - uk.doxawatches.com//blogs/doxa-b-log/code-name-non-deco

[@Ten.to.one.handmade]

Love your sense of humour. I reckon you and Evan from you’re terrific would have a great rapport if you ever decided to make videos together

[@LumePip]

Thanks, Walter! I love his channel and I don't think anyone gets near him in terms of wrist shots and his use of bright, bold colours. I sound like a footballer but I'm flattered to be mentioned in the same sentence haha

[@thegorn]

2:21 You wrote "100M" in the specs although the dial says 200m. A bad copy/paste?

[@LumePip]

They should never put the 1 on a keyboard next to the 2. Fundamental design flaw 😅 Although with these sort of watches, I might err on the side of caution anyway!

[@watchthepoint1604]

What is the crown and winding movement like?

[@LumePip]

Absolutely flawless. I'm always surprised just how good the NH35 is for how little it costs.

[@supaflymicros]

Now that is a beauty. That thickness though, even with that movement they should have done a bit better. It does look like it wears a bit thinner. Thank you for the video.

[@escapewheelwatchreviews2579]

FWIW, his thickness number surprised me...so I snatched mine off my wrist and put the calipers to it...I got 13.3mm

[@supaflymicros]

@@escapewheelwatchreviews2579 Steve I am so sorry about your channel I was a sub and of course a sub to I like watches. I am glad you made another and it looks like this time around I am your 1st subscriber. Look forward to the comeback.

[@escapewheelwatchreviews2579]

@@supaflymicros thanks man! Looking forward to moving past all this and creating more content.

[@supaflymicros]

@@escapewheelwatchreviews2579 absolutely.

[@piotrszmidel]

Why You mentioned thickness as 14.5mm?In the shop it says 13.5mm,so even about 0.5mm less thicker than a Doxa.🤔

[@LumePip]

I’ve had a few people mention the thickness I measured and have since measured it again - I’m getting 14.1mm on new callipers. Maybe they’ve slimmed down the V2 🤷🏼‍♂️I know why they’d advertise it as thinner, obviously, but I’m not getting 13.5mm on mine.

[@piotrszmidel]

@@LumePip Just finished watching Escape Wheel review and he measures it there and gets even 13.4mm.Yes he indeed have v2 with proper hour hand

[@mik99D]

I've subscribed. I'm in Liverpool too.

[@LumePip]

Thanks, mate. Make sure you subscribe to Jason The Watch Guy and Honest Watch Reviews, too - good to see the locals doing watch stuff.

[@allenmontrasio8962]

What do you expect for 150 €, though?

[@LumePip]

Even cheaper now with an updated handset!

[@RansonJoe]

Nice vid

[@Fake_account_001]

I still wonder why this Chinese manufacturers insists with 1:1 copy instead of taking even inspiration I understand copies of watches no more on sale (I have a Addiesdive Capt Willard). Or a copy of a "common style", like submariners . For the rest, no

[@redtill1]

Hold on a minute it’s the Doxa that is 14.5mm & the Seestern is 13.5mm….. surprised you got an important piece of info so wrong…. Otherwise like ur style if a little too sarcastic.Just purchase this in V3 Subscribed👍

[@LumePip]

Can’t remember what I said but probably a typo on my script or something. I dunno 🤷🏼‍♂️ thanks though

[@marko8698]

Honestly pale 6 1/2 incher and starfish you will never hear that on TTWC . 😂

[@dyingbreed7740]

Good review political references aside I enjoyed it

[@noosamike]

“Filmed in bright sunlight”, so you’re not in Brexistan then?

[@LumePip]

Yeah, I am, but we're having what Brexiteers would no doubt label a "heat abundance dividend" thanks to no longer having to comply with EU directives on sunlight. It does make filming some watches tricky - not this one, mind!

[@error4159]

Great review. I bet the twelve thumbs down came from Tories, lol.

[@kellypaws]

Two Boris Johnson digs. If that doesn't deserve a sub from every right minded human being, nothing does.

[@LumePip]

You're one of about 5 people who's ever responded positively to me being even remotely political. Thanks so much for the sub!

[@kellypaws]

@@LumePipIf you never short sell having decency and a conscience, you'll most likely never have to hide in a fridge.

[@TomahawksNShotShells]

You really don't like Boris Johnson 🤣

[@LumePip]

Ah, come on - I'm pretty fair on someone whose claim to have 5 (?) children is only as trustworthy as the claims he writes on the side of red buses... 😅

[@casteltheghettomonk4392]

Berny , pagani , addiesdive , san martin , seestern , steeldive never dissapoint , so idk which brands you reviwed but dont be so desprate for attention

[@LumePip]

huh?

[@misterrottweiler]

Good review of a watch that really isn’t my cup of tea aesthetically. I found the scripted reading a bit off putting. Maybe just go with it so it’s more interesting to listen to and would make the humour work. Just saying, most people clearly don’t think it’s an issue though!

[@MatthewHartsuch]

This is the most passive aggressive review Ive ever seen. Also feel like this might have been a political jab...

[@urbanrider429]

Buy a real Doxa,they aren’t expensive

[@haroldduu4471]

Basically you’re bitching about a $100 watch that’s not made like and feels like a $3,000 watch.

[@LumePip]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Review

[@peterfox3989]

A good review , spoilt by some cheap left wing jibes , leave that to the BBC .

[@LumePip]

Dunno if you’ve watched the BBC lately, but some left-wing jibes from them would be more than welcome. Also, I’ll gladly go on record as saying this: no Tories welcome.

[@Ericdagreat]

What is the obsession with having a thinner watch with all of these watch reviewers?? The Doxa itself is the same thickness as the Seestern. Having a slightly thicker watch with thicker caseback is better as to lift the crown up higher off, and away from the wrist. A watch with this weight has to have the crown higher away from the wrist, as to prevent the crown from digging into your wrist with every simple moment of your wrist.

[@LumePip]

I've just bought the actual Doxa this is a homage of. I wish it was thinner.

[@Ericdagreat]

Actually, I just measured my Seestern, and my Doxa, and the Doxa was thicker by 1mm, at close to 14.5 😂

[@watchalot919]

I quite enjoy your videos, but the Scouse love a socialist government and hatred of anything Tory quite annoys me. Please mate, keep your politics our of your watch reviews. Quite a nice watch with a decent spec that wouldn't consider buying

[@LumePip]

Ah, to be fair, mate, I literally said something very middle of the road about a very indecent man. I think people should be less precious. I don’t mean you here, I should say - I’ve had people voice similar sentiments far less politely, so I appreciate that. If it makes it any easier, I’ve seen Daniel Wellington watches with more character than Keir Starmer. I think all power deserves scrutiny and that doesn’t sit anywhere on a spectrum. I can appreciate that people “want politics out of watch reviews” - honestly, I can - but I’m not going to become just another bloke stood behind a camera waffling watch specs off a list. I love watches but I also love having a joke and not being so serious about it. I can assure you it’s all done in jest!

[@kamran102]

Maybe not so smart to mix politics in watch video.. ;-)

[@jimgiunta]

You should keep your political comments to yourself...

[@LumePip]

Fair enough, but I thought they were pretty bipartisan comments. Both Labour and the Conservatives dislike Boris Johnson, and I don't think there's anything overtly political to referring to the size of someone's hands.

[@jimgiunta]

@@LumePip Bipartisan doesn't really matter. When you refer to any politician negatively, that's a political comment that can and will be taken as being detrimental. By doing so, you risk alienating either half your audience if you're partisan, and your complete audience if you do it bipartisanly.

[@Ericdagreat]

@@jimgiuntaYour “Butthurt” slip is on it’s way. A band-aide was included free of charge 😢😢😂

[@oktc68]

I think San Martin make some decent watches, but I'm a bit fussy and there's only a couple that I like enough to buy. The quality is ok, they look good, but they're not faultless. I've only handled one of their more expensive watches, which was almost really nice but unfortunately that model is afflicted with a bizarre placement of the date aperture. Seestern make a solid basic diver at least their Doxa homages, I'd compare them to Seiko 5 SKX but with a vintage feel and superior build and the same highly dependable movement, I'd rather have the NH35A over the unknown (to me) PT5000. Incedentlu the Doxa use the Swiss made equivalent of that movement and if Seestern did have the PT5000 it would be a simple upgrade to replace it with a Swiss version. Personally the slightly smoother seconds hand sweep is nice but that's about the only noticeable difference except for additional service costs. The Seestern Sub 600T is a solid buy, offering a build quality and finish that would be good on a watch at double the price and more. The V2 & V3 addressed the undersized hour hand.

[@LumePip]

I think Seestern and San Martin are pretty close in reality. The Seesterns currently are a bit better value for money, but if they put a Swiss movement in one of these, I’d have it in a heartbeat. That said, if San Martin did some of their models with Swiss movements (I know they do, but not the ones I’m drawn to currently), I’d snap them up, too. With everything going on, it gets more and more appealing to spend a little and get a lot, despite what all the pearl-clutching homage haters might say. There’s a place for all of them; the genuinely unobtainable and unaffordable APs and what not, and these demonstrably not as high quality but excellent homages. 👌🏻👌🏻I also had a Seiko 5 for a while and I don’t think it got close to the quality of the San Martins and Seesterns, FWIW

[@TheSmiler62]

Excellent review my friend........I have now subscribed to your Channel ;)

[@LumePip]

Thanks very much!!

[@jpswift70]

Drop the politics and stick to the watches.