All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.

[@MaisBaixo]

The *Dubstep Nether Zone* @ 23:55 *_Dub Pressure / Bassweight_* 1. Quest - Stand/Eden _[Deep Medi]_ 2. Vivek - Feel It _[Deep Medi]_ 3. Goth Trad - Deep Path/S.A.T.U.R.N _[Deep Medi]_ 4. Jack Sparrow - Circadian _[Tectonic]_ 5. Cyrus - Space Cadet/Junk Yard _[Tectonic]_ *_Tecky Rollers_* 1. Soundboy's Gravestone Gets Desecrated By Vandals _[Skull Disco]_ 2. Martyn - Great Lengths _[3024]_ 3. 2562 - Aerial _[Tectonic]_ 4. Dusk + Blackdown ‎- Margins Music _[Keysound]_ 5. Pinch - Underwater Dancehall _[Tectonic]_ *_2nd Wave_* 1. Silkie - City Limits Volume 1 _[Deep Medi]_ 2. Mizz Beats - My World/The Jester _[Deep Medi]_ 3. Skream ‎- Skreamizm Vol 5 _[Tempa]_ 4. Jay 5ive & Kromestar ‎- Bass 96 / Hands In The Air _[Bass 'N' Love]_ 5. Benga - Diary of an Afro Warrior _[Tempa]_ *_Vocalist-Centric_* 1. Von D ft Phephe - Show Me _[Sub Freq]_ 2. Phaeleh - Fallen Light _[Afterglo]_ 3. Kito - Kito EP _[Disfigured Dubz]_ 4. Clouds - Protecting Hands _[Deep Medi]_ 5. Emika - Double Edge _[Ninja Tune]_ *_Purple Music_* 1. Joker/2000F & J Kamata - Digidesign/You Don't Know What Love Is _[Hyperdub]_ 2. Mark Pritchard ft Om'mas Keith - Wind It Up _[Hyperdub]_ 3. Mensah - Untitled Future Funk EP _[HENCH]_ 4. Guido - Anidea _[Punch Drunk]_ 5. Joker & Ginz - Purple City _[Kapsize]_ *_Mutated Strains_* 1. 5: Five Years of Hyperdub _[Hyperdub]_ 2. Darkstar - Aidy's Girl Is A Computer _[Hyperdub]_ 3. Zomby - Liquid Dancehall/Strange Fruit _[Ramp]_ 4. James Blake - Air & Lack Thereof _[Hemlock]_ 5. Becoming Real - Fast Motion _[Ramp]_

[@tommk88]

The 4th one in 2nd wave is Bass 96 by Jay 5ive and kromestar

[@philbegas]

Wow you're the man I was about to ask

[@cyanada]

Thanks so much for this!

[@dubraja6469]

Fuck Skrillex Deep Medi for life.

[@VivaTunita]

@@tommk88 what a tune

[@StarkbotTV]

Well... thanks for shouting out my track "Prism". It's much appreciated.

[@TimbahOnToast]

A lotta love for starting this adventure for me < 3

[@StarkbotTV]

@@TimbahOnToast I put the master up on my bandcamp page with a shout out to this video. So, if anyone wants to get the WAV, it's here. Big thanks again, it's much appreciated. starkey.bandcamp.com/track/prism

[@TomNode]

@@StarkbotTV One of the first flacs i bought on boomkat back in the day 👊

[@mkozachek]

@@StarkbotTV Thanks so much for putting this up! I don't know if I would've appreciated this track as much way back when, but now in my early 30s it's amazing.

[@StarkbotTV]

@@mkozachek appreciate that. Thanks!

[@Testgeraeusch]

"DJing is like sex". Yep, sounds about right. I haven't played a live set in 4 years.

[@WHADDDD]

Lmao you and me both brother

[@Testgeraeusch]

@All Things Dub You can try to; depends on what crowd you get on the night. And at some point you can start experimenting, at some point you just stick to the basics to make it work somehow. Just like sex.

[@Testgeraeusch]

@All Things Dub Of course, you are more free to express yourself with a familiar crowd.

[@lexifey1300]

Coming off the decks, I usually will head straight outside for a cigarette. I usually end up telling at least one person after every set - yes follow me let’s go vibe, but outside, I need a smoke. That set and feeding off y’all in the pit... it’s just as big if not a greater release than an orgasm.... sometimes you just need a cig after that!! Sometimes even just by myself In my car or walking around the block, to really process and appreciate that high of life that just occurred the last few hours. It’s completely like sex. (With the - hold up... I gotta pee - moment before the cig too 🤣🤣) Make love to the music 🖤

[@Testgeraeusch]

@@lexifey1300 I tend to walk a lot after a clubnight, either a visitor or as DJ. Like, let's walk for a few hours and then head home, or walk home all across the city.

[@TheVolgun]

The amount of stuff I learned here was insane, thank you for taking the time to make this, man.

[@eeeveeeve]

yooooooo

[@slatetu]

Any interesting wub wub scp's?

[@mcchickenbaptistchurch.org2]

Thanks scp dude

[@scottpatton5220]

the reluctant dimension traveller was amazing thank you for the narration!

[@everythinghuman6978]

Our favoite doctor likes dubstep?

[@MedlifeCrisis]

Came to this way too late. Absolutely loved it man, great work

[@NB-lx6gz]

Nice to find you here! I can't wait for your next upload whenever that may be 👀

[@princetamrac1180]

Nah man, you are also a dubstep fan? Can you get even cooler?!

[@jayscaping]

Not gonna lie, something tells me skrillex saw this video and took it to heart cause the stuff he's making most recently is more dubstep than anything he's ever released

[@NiggaChickenSticks]

Even the latest id he posted on his iG story is VERY UK dubstep inspired

[@heron619]

I literally came to comment the same thing after just finished listening to his new album! I blame this video for how good that album is!

[@bluchubeats]

Nah seriously you can hear it in his new album

[@grssu]

@@heron619 agreed, too bizarre is my fav

[@UltraCodex66]

@@grssu despite listening to the whole thing, Rumble is still my main favourite

[@josephcole224]

Forgot to mention that dubstep originated in Croydon, the most depressing and meaningless place in London. The Cronx was a giant motorway junction surrounded by empty office blocks, decaying shopping centres and abandoned buildings, perfectly mirrored in the dark, squelchy sound of early dubstep. Cronkistani's rise up!

[@IUKC]

Good old Croynge. Dubstep certainly helped put it on the map.

[@Giesela0815]

thats why dub has to be a bit dark :D hits the right spot!

[@vinny5638]

Had no clue dubstep had origins in the UK tbh before this video/comment, thats really cool I cant wait to look up some of the older stuff

[@4eversupersonicgirl]

i feel like the darkness of dubstep has not been destroyed because of the early 2010s but simply transferred to future garage (i know it's just called garage in the UK) that artists still do to this day with their tunes.

[@Wallacer]

You can tell Skrillex has never been to the Cronx!

[@pinzatompings9571]

the most UK thing ever is a cig smoking ban completely changing the vibe of a bass show

[@mnamethonk]

The reality is that people still smoke in clubs. Smoking ban or not.

[@elhomo6406]

@@mnamethonk especially on packed nights. It's not like the bouncers gonna wade through a crowd to try find the fucking needle in the haystack.

[@nostralgia3203]

imagine if they banned the queen from drinking tea while listening to big ben bangers, she'd go mental

[@inglejuice]

@@mnamethonk Yeah a bit but not that much, it was like that in the beginning now getting less and less. Security getting more and more over zealous about it too. I’m not talking about cigarettes btw Smoking ban has been a huge hurdle in UK clubbing. It’s a vibe killer with about a quarter of the club trying to go to the smoking area, come back from the smoking area or stand out shivering in the smoking area instead of revelling, free in the secret enclosed world that clubs used to be until the lights came on.

[@tree4318]

@@mnamethonk why don't they just use hardcore ventilation fans like giant ones in there so you can just smoke it up?

[@xethified]

This feels like it could have been a conversation with a hip-hop old head. I feel like some version of this conversation has existed for centuries.

[@svetlana9369]

As a techno fan im relating super hard to this. I guess it’s a universal experience

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

@@svetlana9369 What happened to techno?

[@paulussturm6572]

​@@svetlana9369Goa fan who wasn't even alive the last time the genre was worth a damn.

[@tim.noonan]

Not only that, but I’d wager that everyone in the world has their own personal version of this sort of crusade. For me, it’s telling anyone who will listen that American Ninja Warrior is both a pale shadow of, and an insult to Sasuke, its Japanese progenitor.

[@ChimeTunes]

This is a lovely re-telling of the history behind dubstep's origins filled with your unique experiences as a dubstep listener from the UK that I appreciate the hell out of! But as a dubstep listener - now producer - also from the UK that only got into dubstep after 2010, during its transition into what you claim to be the "downfall" of the genre, it's frustrating to have your in-depth recital of it's origins not continue past the point many of us gained our interest. There's so much to explore in dubstep post-2010 that is completely beyond and separate to the "tasteless" vibe you mention as the end-all-be-all of the genre now. While it's of course an utterly different genre of music at this point, it's a continuous frustration of mine to once again hear a UK-based listener outright dismiss a style I know to be varied and beautiful - referred to so negatively and based entirely on it's surface-level perception from an outsider. Just because the music has evolved and changed drastically, it doesn't mean there aren't any incredibly introspective and thoughtful approaches to the genre being employed over the past 10 years. The UK loves to claim things as ours and hate it when it's taken and changed and this is displayed no better to me than with dubstep's evolution. My music may not be dark, brooding or subdued for the most part and it's absolutely not in the same ball-park as those early dubstep tunes you love, but I assure you they're incredibly meaningful to me despite being wrapped up in that high-impact, sound-design-celebrating package you've dismissed. Hell, I even had a tune with Flux Pavilion come out last week - an artist you lumped into being part of "the problem" multiple times during this video and one I know to put in a huge amount of thought into his tunes. Just because a track is high-energy doesn't mean it can't be deep and meaningful - and a track doesn't have to be deep and meaningful to be great. For me the appeal of modern dubstep IS the fact that you can wrap emotions into it and blast it at a crowd with as much impact as sonically possible. I love subtlety too but the maximal nature of dubstep's new form is insanely beautiful to me in a way I have never experienced with dubstep pre-2010. I guess my point is, people express themselves in different ways and they shouldn't be shamed for that. If someone wants to make tunes that are literally just fun as hell to play live then that can be as important to them as another producer pouring their emotions into their music. There's pleeeenty I dislike about the modern dubstep scene and where it's gone recently but I just wanted to give a bit of a rebuttal to your points about brostep along with a reminder that just because you know the depths of a genre's origin doesn't mean you can claim that the entire continuation of it is terrible without actually diving into it properly for yourself!

[@sharkstunes]

hi harvey have a nice day

[@96YotaT100]

Well said!

[@AustinSimard]

That was very well written, I appreciate your insight Harvey.

[@frankycheifsosa8946]

CHIME

[@Ghost0oo]

Beautifully said

[@gravytrain73]

As an American, I was introduced to dubstep around 2009 through KZbin “dubstep remixes”, which were just pop songs with tacked-on womps and bass drops.

[@psychotropictraveler514]

Haha oh man I remember those days, EVERY song had to have a dubstep "remix"

[@BAKAMAKAMEDIA]

Oh my god the hardest nostalgia hit remembering that. I had so many artist doing that I followed

[@MrMitchellw16]

ITS MEEE MARIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@BobbinRobbin777]

Same.

[@JosephKeenanxBiscuit]

I had kinda the same experience, the thing for me though was it was like I got into the sound backwards. I got into it a year or two after skrillex hit and I was in to the crazy tear out tracks and the brostep stuff. I didn't really have the cultural context of people in the UK in the early days. But then I started lurking DSF like all the time and got introduced to do much of that early stuff, and got into producers still making deeper moody stuff going into the mid 2010s. But I still didn't get all the hate on the harder tracks and stuff until I got to see Mala and Coki and then I think a month later I saw Goth Trad play out on legitimate sound systems in Los Angeles. I got it more after that and realized all the crazy beautiful art that was getting crowded out by the popularity of all the screechy crazy headbang ass tunes. Like someone who got into Green Day or Rancid or whatever in the mid 90s and found their way back to old school punk rock kind of or something.

[@nickkatz5352]

how i know i'm old: dude has to clarify what limewire is for his audience in a music history video about fucking dubstep. fuuuuuck

[@madgigahz]

right? I'm just gonna lay down and die now

[@saskilla1945]

I'm 19 and I know about limewire

[@MachoNakedTaco]

@@saskilla1945 Same

[@scaryKILLERwhoKILLSpeople]

soulseek's still very much alive thankfully and carries it's ethos on

[@s2sHoXXs2]

limewire is such a middle school mood for me 😭😭

[@GinaGibbons]

The part around Burial is so true. I'll never forget the first time I heard it, a memory that is seared into my being in a deep way. It's haunting and magical and untouchable, really.

[@jamesfield1674]

So cinematic

[@Misanthrop1006]

the first time Burial really was something special. "a memory that is seared into my being in a deep way." is a perfect way to describe it.

[@ilievsaso]

im gonna be honest, i started listening to brostep when i was younger and i left it for a long time and a year after i got into music i heard burial and was absolutely

[@mcgritty8842]

Yall crazy. He made sleepytime music, not dance music

[@galetinm]

​@@mcgritty8842dance music isn't what you think it is. You don't have to get your ears r*ped to dance.

[@SaintsAwayOllie]

I was 15 Back in 2012, It was the peak of mainstream Dubstep with me and my mates banging out tracks by Flux Pavilion, Nero, Skrillex ect. I remember being in GCSE media and the cool teacher in his mid 30s went on a rant about how the stuff we listened to wasn't "true dubstep". He played us some older tracks which we found a bit boring. 10 years later, thanks to this video I finally understand what he was on about.

[@darbling311]

hard agree.

[@carbon-based-lifeform9172]

It's not even dubstep anymore It's something else.

[@officaldungeons]

Your teacher was an elitist in the same way that classical musician elitists say that anyone who likes Shostakovich, Ligeti, Penderecki, Crumb, Collier, and hundreds more of the most influential composers in the instrumental genre were garbage because they didn’t conform to the dumbed down, sanitised rules that the Classical era composers imposed on others to make music that was “correct.” Your teacher was not “right” your teacher was biased and shortsighted.

[@carbon-based-lifeform9172]

@@officaldungeons this guy is over here trying to compare skrillex to fucking Mozart. You are extremely out of touch 😆

[@werlder]

Flux is my defacto favorite, please check out his more recent stuff.

[@GoExperimental]

Storytelling is unreal in this. You have a real talent, my friend!

[@silasschramm]

agreed

[@silasgotsch4458]

agreed

[@dansylas]

agreed

[@OSYofRR]

Same sort of concept happened with hardcore losing its breakbeats and morphing into happy hardcore, a sort of full 180. Commercialism has a formula it seems for capturing organic movements that are far more artistic with a better vibe and twisting them into garbage for the masses, a modern take on religion being an opium for the masses... Sometimes it works though,like when hard rock came about because of electric guitars and bass but that was before the age of big business we saw in the 90's and continues on today. The chaotic bro step is literally harmful for your health yet people craved it. We all have our vices and escapes but that is another discussion on the psyche of humans, but I am glad I never embraced it and the scene died.

[@old_romans]

Good editing skills for sure and he speaks clearly enough. Content was eye-rolling, self-serving, immature and as narrow-minded as a boomer.

[@khalidsawyers6032]

This was a brilliant piece. I was half expecting it to be a hate piece on Brostep and Skrillex, but it turned out to be a piece on the love for a Genre lost on people like myself who weren't familiar with its roots. I appreciate you for sharing your perspective on this, it really opened my eyes.

[@hoidoei941]

Brostep😂 That name says enough.. total shit music, Glad I grew up with 16bit, Bar9 and Chasing Shadows, not this gay shit

[@Amber-w6u9n]

I appreciate your honesty here. It's most definitely refreshing.

[@andybarrett6472]

Yeah. Respect for that in an era of too many insults. I hated bro step but don’t mind if others do

[@treehann]

good that it's not the former, because Skrillex is an amazing producer. I don't think he intended to overshadow a great genre just by doing his own dance-y take on it.

[@Algrenion]

Your analysis of Burial here was spot on there's such an evocative, emotional quality to it. To this day it runs shivers up my spine and when i listen to the OG album, the one my big brother, my protector, introduced me to - it puts me through such a spectrum of feeling. Like i want to laugh, cry, dance, walk, give myself a hug, all at the same time.

[@ElijahRhyne]

The fact that you had to explain limewire cut my soul on a deep level.

[@amberlee4536]

I was born in the 90s and my existential horror at the fact that I remember bootlegging music off the radio with a tape deck and this man had to explain Limewire is mind-blowing.

[@miguellagos8889]

@@amberlee4536 ahhhh man radio ripped tapes was the best but I always fucking hated when the radio station would fuck up the song by announcing its name at the end or beginning of the song😂😂 fellow 90s kid here but effing limewire was the next step or Ares was also an alternative to limewire, but yeah I fucked up a couple of computers.

[@dorjjodvo1992]

I used to download stuff at 300kb/s at max... The agony of having to wait days to download games

[@darbiblu8411]

We are old now.

[@thescarecrow897]

ok boomer

[@Mr123Huckleberry]

"Limewire was like this file sharing thing back in the day" Me a 31 year old millenial...Shit.

[@stevenwaldon4469]

Remember having to teach others in your household that there’s no such thing as a song with a .exe format?

[@lamenamethefirst]

Thanks for reminding me of how old I've become.

[@BleedForTheWorld]

Real OGs were there when Napster first started. It was purely for mp3s, too. None of this FLAC nonsense /s.

[@yvesdecuyper4047]

Hit me too! '89 here

[@swoodruff]

'89 here as well. I remember (starting in 6th grade) using Napster on my parents' computer when they weren't home to pirate explicit music and burn it to CDs to listen to at night time and on the bus rides to school with my portable CD player. I'd have to install then uninstall Napster (and later Limewire) each time so I wouldn't get caught.

[@uummiid]

Man, this shit is free to watch.

[@4TheWinQuinn]

Init it’s fucjin wild people stay poor paying for Disney+, Amazon prime, Netflix, Hulu, when we have this at our fingertips.

[@apollo268]

@@4TheWinQuinn it’s chewsday innit

[@nottheone-o6u]

@@apollo268 iT's ToOzDaY

[@Helaw0lf]

Been a fan of KZbin since 2006 before Google bought them a few years later. The amount of information and history filed away on here is amazing. Plus you can create playlists for whatever you want.

[@sebasmana5798]

perfect documentary of the genre.

[@James_Wisniewski]

The best way to explain old Skrillex is probably to look at what he was doing before he started making electronic music. His first couple EPs sound a lot like post-hardcore made with a computer instead of guitars. I was in high school when he first came on the scene and I was very much deep in the heavy metal and metalcore scenes at the time, and even then, I had friends who straight up said it sounded like that. Breakdowns and everything, only renamed to a bass drop.

[@Jack-sq6xb]

Fr. To addon if you look at the song subjects its very similar to post-hardcore. For example, In kill everybody “I want to kill everybody in the world” is a softer quieter voice which is then followed by a very loud and filthy drop. It sounds like someone quiet lashing out which is basically any post hardcore song.

[@philphil3507]

That first From First to Last album is a good ass album though

[@andreyandonov]

It was 2008 and I was attending a Radiohead concert in Dublin. They warmed up the crowd by playing something out of this world there I heard for the first time Burial.

[@johnnyscifi]

Not surprised, both Greenwood, and Yorke adore dub, and reggae

[@andreyandonov]

@greylittlelives as far as I remember it was the entire album Untrue

[@andreyandonov]

@greylittlelives it was, it was :))) a crowd without phones.

[@TxxT33]

OMG yes! Burial changed me.

[@Brainles5]

Burial and Thom yorke have collaborated a couple of times. Most recently just a few months ago along with Four tet. I really recomend checking it out! It is amazing.

[@clrndalvare]

I've spent half of my life waiting for someone to come up with a cohesive thesis on how the word "dubstep" came from meaning the sound of Burial to the shouts of Skrillex. This is it, you made it my friend. Thanks.

[@MultiSciGeek]

Exactly the same here! :D

[@Enzaio]

Haha I totally get you. When I listened to Burial for the first time about a year ago and then saw it labeled as dubstep, it nearly broke my brain. Now I get it.

[@emancipator6497]

Agreed

[@mushyfooproductions]

...which is ironic in itself because Burial's early stuff is already fairly far from the root of the term - 2-step Garage that gets a soundsystem dub treatment. Imo Burial was already indicative of post-dubstep having arrived

[@i_make_sounds]

What a journey, man. As an American whose only exposure to dubstep was through KZbin playlists full of what you'd call Brostep. I always wondered why one day it was just gone in the popular sphere. I never realized that was because the cultural niche it filled in Britain started to disappear. I knew it originated there but I never realized how divisive the American interpretation was on the other side of the pond. Thanks for the education!

[@One_Call_System]

I started listening to electronic music and even djed in the mid nineties US rave scene, it was awesome.. Then about 2006, I heard proper dubstep being played out for the first time. And the next week went to Dubwar in NYC, it was Digital Mystiks and Loefah.... still the best dubstep event I ever went to lol. As an American who loved the UK sound, I saw the train wreck that was coming for years. It kept getting worse and worse in the dances too, just like how this guy explains it.. Now the only way to hear the deep stuff is from certain promoters who usually barely break even on their shows. Mean while the festie scene is huge and retarded here in America and I just want to kill myself lol.

[@AntonL1994]

It was very frustrating at the time

[@DeaDiabola]

@@One_Call_System I was a punk/goth around that same time, though more in the early 2000s than the 90s. I still loved going to raves/gabber shows. They were genuinely magical experiences that rapidly degraded after 2007. I miss how beautiful the people, the environments, the freedom, the affordability, the music. People were so creative and fun with their outfits, no one was there just to take pictures for their socials. Not to sound like an old, but it's really hard to see all four scenes completely fall apart in the face of capitalism.

[@cameaston5632]

This story of a connection to music/art is so special and well told. I love the way it’s a story about a music genre and about you. The realisation that what you loved no longer exists was so poignant. Thank you for putting the time and effort into making this.

[@jordank1489]

Burial was the first time I realised I was depressed. I would smoke weed in my tiny shed, living on my own at 16 because my parents got divorced and both of them moved out. I had to drop out of sixth form, even though I was a good student, and started working in a factory making car radiators. When that vocal on shell of light came in I broke down for the first time. Such a cathartic experience!

[@thalamusDecimation]

Genuinely hope you're doing well these days man.

[@mrblobifier]

@@thalamusDecimation same here

[@sabojezles]

Wish you all the best, man, take good care of yourself!

[@jordank1489]

Oh shit, left this a bit open ended didn't I? Haha. Anyone concerned, firstly thanks, and also I'm absolutely grand now. This was like 10-odd years ago.

[@sabojezles]

@@jordank1489 It's really good to know, man, hopefully the future has some grand and beautiful surprise in the horizon for you. Thank you for the reply.

[@breadandbuddabaybay6550]

I think the irony is that now people are discovering classic dubstep through Skrillex

[@arforafro5523]

I don't think its ironic at all, I think its a natural pattern as people become more familiar and knowledgeable about a genre. Just like the author eventually let go of his bitterness at the modern dubstep scene and went back to enjoying the music he loved so do new listeners introduced by the more commercial material eventually dig down into the roots of a genre they like.

[@FilmDegenerates]

finish your sentence jabronie... ε/̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ ̿(◡︵◡)

[@HasturLaVishnu]

Benga - night

[@PongoXBongo]

Reminds me of people seeing the "Mama Mia" movie or hearing "Stayin' Alive" for the umpteenth time slowly expanding to classic '70s dance and funk tunes. Once you get past the fancy design floating atop your cappuccino, you discover the deliciously dark drink underneath.

[@that_which_is_not]

The real irony is Skream claiming how much he hates Gabba and how easily it could be forgotten about! 💀

[@Figureight]

The 5 stages of grief can be observed throughout this video. I came into this as someone who has followed dubstep since 2006, and hated everything that Skrillex put out and only really tacked onto the very early signs of what would be considered Brostep. I think for me it's that I feel like the dubstep scene I grew with and fell in love with was never appreciated to the scale of which brostep was. When I tell someone I like dubstep, they imaging me listening to Bangarang, not Anti-War Dub or Mud. It feels like some sort of injustice to the origins of the genre, and so like the creator of this video I too feel this need to want to idolise it and spread the word of it like some sort of bass missionary.

[@noompsieOG]

See what you explained here ? It’s exactly how I feel about metalcore and beat down genre , also the punk pub rock genre , “the chats” are the skrillex of the genre which I was blessed to witness Start in melbourne over a decade ago where the artists who truly formed the genre are still unknown and not appreciated

[@breakingpoints4019]

He ruined rumbatone

[@zerohp5098]

Exactly

[@sebp400]

@@noompsieOG punk dub started with bands like The Slits in the 70's.. Pre On-U Sound records even.

[@noompsieOG]

@@sebp400 no I said punk pub not dub lol Eddie current suppression ring , amyl and the sniffers etc

[@kiwidubtee]

Wow. This is a really, really impressive piece of work. The way you explain and dissect the dubstep sound, its history, the culture that influenced it and the underground scene it created is absolutely awesome. As a formerly obsessive fan of the original dubstep sound, this definitely made me nostalgic. I love the way you broke down and compared the differences between tear out dubstep tunes and the brostep stuff - this is something I have always wanted to explain to people but have never been able to verbalise myself.

[@FearNLoathing]

Superb storytelling and editing Mate.

[@bellpepper3166]

Oh hi! Fancy seeing you here.

[@Augors]

Yoooooo, my guy!

[@bowskee]

dubstep is one of a kind, greatest electronic music genre

[@bellpepper3166]

@@bowskee I think Dubstep is amazing at what it does. It's one of my top favorite genres as a whole! I don't think the greatest genre exists. It would be too perfect if that were the case. I love dubstep to death, I just mainly listen to stuff like Techno, House, Breaks, DnB, Tekkno, Vaporwave, and Acidcore at the moment. I just don't listen to dubstep as I did 3-4 years ago.

[@bowskee]

@@bellpepper3166 yeah it died out. Prime dubstep was 2010 - 2014

[@Bandstand]

The thumbnail and title of this video has me so intrigued. Imma come back to this 🤝

[@onsight1318]

hol up hol up

[@le_mole]

Same, it's been saved for tomorow 😂

[@ryanmccarthy2033]

Its time

[@ryanmccarthy2033]

@@le_mole its tomorrow

[@dougharper1492]

Yea!

[@espawna]

I've been a huge fan of "brostep" since 2010. This video really opened my eyes to real /UK dubstep I just listened to Burial and I am completely enamored with the sound.

[@Sool101]

It's mesmerising

[@dpdilla]

I don’t know why but this comment makes me happy. I think I had this experience coming into drum and bass (specifically Metalheadz) in the late 90s and discovering all the dope music from the early 90s that lead up to it (specifically Reinforced Records)

[@DeanLawrence_ftw]

this makes me happy too. well done on broadening your horizons. burial has an uncanny ability to reach right into your chest and play with your heart

[@metalworker87]

man welcome to the planet. you can now learn to walk

[@ext93]

Ashtray wasp

[@krater869]

I do not know how to thank you for making this video. as a 16 year old completely hooked on many types off electronic music I have watched this video so attentively, to learn about songs from a generation that inspired the artists which I am now listening to, like I probably never have before (considering I cannot pay attention very well) I really appreciate the way that this video is so comprehensive and interesting. The way you told the story, and shared your own experiences as an insider in this community I was absolutely intrigued. Thank you for introducing me to this side of music.

[@Kentanyl]

This hitting with daft punks breakup, they got me into more focused listening and the era is officially over, not super dubstep educated but this video was amazing

[@NASkeywest]

I was hoping they were announcing the release of a final record, instead......the announcement of the end...

[@NinjaThatLongboards]

@@NASkeywest I'm still holding out hope they'll surprise us. Maybe foolishly but I need to believe.

[@tob.meister]

Early Daft Punk is fucking GOATED

[@KingOfDarknessAndEvil]

@@tob.meister I've only heard a few daft punk songs, are their later songs not as good?

[@fungdark8270]

@@KingOfDarknessAndEvil Just different. KZbin homework and discovery, first two albums

[@WorldOfXeen]

Skrillex is the artist who got me into Dubstep. I remember being at a really small local venue and they had scary monsters and nice sprites playing through the huge speakers. The bass shook my whole body and I was hooked. It was the first time I had heard anything like it. After watching this I'm excited to go and give all of the other subgenres and classic dubstep artists I've never heard a listen. This video was such a great look at the history of the genre and the editing was beyond stellar.

[@willb1405]

Names to check out: skream, loefah, kode9, coki, mala

[@BloodOfTartaros]

Remember, fam: Dubstep has no subgenres, only styles!

[@danJAHrous]

Names to check for today, Leon Switch, Biome, Truth, AxH and anything on Dubstep For Deep Heads, Uprise Audio & Deep, Dark and Dangerous.

[@ApasheOfficial]

Extremely nostalgic to watch, didn't realize it was that long ago and only caught the end of it as a teenager. Can we talk about drugs? In my opinion it played a huge role is... The scene was split, kids that loved drugs stayed in the dnb room cuz dubstep was nice at home but boring to party on. It only shifted when dubstep became more aggressive and we all loved it, we could finally all go to the same events or the same room. We were wild and hopeless only seeking for more self destruction.

[@__foam]

Someone came from Reddit

[@Peichone]

indeed bro, it brought some sweet tears

[@mikeyvee5677]

I took drugs and did party pretty hard on dubstep, the og dubstep .. I remember discovering it in 2005 on lime wire like in the video said. I was like what is this, deep bass weight then my first proper dubstep show was in New Zealand 2006.. Could not get me away from the bassbins..

[@Kennyjamesss]

i used to do drugs when i first got into the dance music scene, i was going to alot of trance shows so at the time i thought thats all EDM ever was, it wasnt until my first steve aoki show in like 2009 (his best ears before becoming lame like he is these days) that i didnt do drugs cause i had to workt he next day, but it blew my mind, and it just progressed there my love for aggressive dance music, then i went to coachella in 2010 and saw skrillex/excision/12thplanet and thats when i knew i loved dubstep

[@TheDJkarsy]

Hmm maybe age and drugs did have a combo that meant people like DnB more but personally I just loved Dubstep no matter what the drug I was on.

[@kyuballer333]

I’m not a dubstep fan but I decided to watch your video just to get some perspective about the music. I found that your video to be one of most insightful meditations about music and our relationship to it. The story of how dubstep got boiled down over time due to a variety of factors both internal and external can be applied to just about every genre. Loved this video so much.

[@FuntCaseUK]

A very interesting take! I must say though, being as i'm 100% a part of the rise of the more aggressive part of dubstep when I started in 2009, I can't help but feel a little disappointed in the reactions of some people towards how myself, Circus Records and other artists during this change in the scene. I do love deeper dubstep, I also make deeper styles of dubstep and have contributed to that as well, so I feel a little attacked by a lot of what was said in here. That being said, i'm not offended at all, this was an awesome narrative from a true fan perspective and understand it totally! Good work my friend. Although saying music got annoying then showing UKF and Circus Records did make me say wow ahahaha

[@g0odluck527]

how has no one seen this

[@tannermccann8922]

You are a fucking legend brother

[@KonJonnorMusic]

Fr man ! Got into the heavier sound around 2010 , UKF were a huge part of the success of that heavier noisy dubstep in the UK. I think the real game changer came when Skrillex started hitting here though. That electro/dubstep sound is clearly a US import of the original UK dubstep . I like soulful vibes, but I guess you know yourself - the hype is where the money is!

[@tom_mac]

I think it takes a big man reply to this video in a solid gold spirited way like you did, all things considered but uh; All respect due, and you were very good at it, but surely you knew what you were doing with brostep there. Brudda, you called ur project FuntCase. lol.

[@FuntCaseUK]

@@tom_mac was kinda an accident i ended up being called FuntCase but i'm not sure what you mean entirely by "you knew what you were doing"

[@StefanMilo]

That was so great. As someone who was at Sheffield uni between 07 and 10, I related a lot to this lol. Skream and Benga were the sound tracks to the big parties.

[@oneworldcommunity117]

wow, one of my fav archeologist youtubers on a EDM history video? das crazy

[@doperagu8471]

I was in the US (bay area, California), but also went to university right around then - Skream and Benga was definitely a jam in the Bay Area, for the people who knew better at least 😜

[@lotussight]

Benga was fabulous in my town, like there were so many night kitchen scenes and they jusr played all the drum n bass and dubstep you could think of

[@user-hj8yf3hr4i]

Dude i keep seeing you In the comments section of non history videos. Are you stalking me?? Lolol

[@jamieagnew1608]

@@rorz999 skream at Tuesday club, 2006…?

[@sevenkaylive]

Can we just appreciate the guy putted EVERY SONG in the description!

[@minnie7453]

I want someone to put them all on a Spotify playlist

[@TheSkullConfernece]

Is he a golfer or something?

[@zerveaux]

@@minnie7453 many of those were only distributed physically :p

[@jessicareed2092]

@@TheSkullConfernece English is probably not his first language, don't be a jerk

[@joeyboikly]

@@TheSkullConfernece what’s a golfer?

[@digital-alchemist]

This is an outstanding music doc. Seriously well done, mate. I vividly remember discovering Burial back in the day and being absolutely blown away by his tunes. Still love his music today. Cheers

[@RC--ji2ov]

this entire story greatly reminds me of vaporwave from my personal experience of discovering and falling in love with it in my early teens to the progression of the genre itself splitting into tons of different ways and no one really knowing what "vaporwave" is anymore.

[@gabrielgeorgemartins1103]

I just said exactly that on Twitter. This video is basically my experience with vaporwave

[@YourPetSnake]

Vaporwave is when slowed and reverb now

[@bsh819]

Having a genre splinter into a million different things is better than having it collapse into just one.

[@OscillatorCollective]

Same…I luckily avoided most of the “dubstep years” and found vaporwave. I still love vaporwave and all of its sub genres, abd I still think dubstep is a joke.

[@mac081793]

2011-2012 was an incredible time for Vaporwave and such a nostalgic for me. Its like it had been the sound I was always searching for. Then a few years later Vaporwave just became pink sunsets, windows 95, lean, and Arizona ice tea cans. Haha I was so butthurt about it at the time. Ironic how commodified it became when it had a somewhat underlying anti-capitalist tone to it.

[@maxtennyson2.035]

Fucken hell, watching this made me realise I only scratched the surface of Dubstep back in the day.

[@alexwild1435]

Same, it was in my periphery and I liked some tracks but never gave it my full attention.

[@Nick1921945]

I regret to inform you that you may not be a true explorer. Change your ways.

[@juhadexcelsior]

fucking right? I had no idea about any of this being an american. I actuallty couldn't stomach skrillex, and still can't. However I was a massive fan of artists like virtual riot and flux pavillion. Idk, they just had a better sense of melody and depth to their music than skrillex ever did.

[@lukim2744]

I barely even scratched the surface on dub back in the day lmao I knew the dubstep hole went REAL deep.

[@jimmyjab190]

@@juhadexcelsior yeah you're right

[@dankenstin8803]

As someone, who isn’t a fan of dubstep, this is amazing.

[@matiasponss6422]

People always want to hate the face of the change. As not a millenial, Skrillex was my first mind blowing experience in music in my early teens. Now in to my early twenties realize i owe him my deep interest and connection about music production and the motivation on starting a musical career. Some of his tracks are so well produced it stills hive me goosebumps now days, well passed my "dubstep-era". Loved your analisis throughout the video specially when you talk about nostalgia. We should never let nostalgia make us judge the evolution of music so harshly, cause thats the whole point of music.

[@prupsicle]

Mate I’m not even a dubstep fan and I was utterly transfixed by this video

[@brendendas]

Transfixed is accurate.

[@the_accidental_poet]

This is the absolute visual representation of the days I use to lurk around the Dubstep Forum a decade ago. Excellent video, my dude.

[@deeplaysit]

Dsf represent :)

[@ventarfield7115]

Those were the days. I still have hard drive full of dubstep forum Choones.

[@deeplaysit]

@All Things Dub I remember I had a track in one of the comps and the tune that came second ended up being one of the Mt kimbie guys doing an anon submission... Wild days haha

[@Kostemusic]

dsf gang

[@unrue1048]

And then came wave?

[@DrOziOfficial]

I enjoyed the video a lot. Very Nostalgic. I LOVED hearing your story. I Loved the history. You spent a lot of time gathering info. I know you don't speak for everyone, this video was what made YOU loose interest in the genre. I myself was a Death Metal listener and I know this feeling of losing a part of your musical origin from your teenage life. I appreciate you sharing your passion about the genre. edit: I also wanna say that this video has opened a nice dialogue within the community. So you're on to something

[@ZoomToYourDoom]

Funny I ran into you here! 😂 I discovered modern dubstep when you dropped Carnivalstep dude. Shit blew my mind! Especially the VIP on DubstepGutter. It’s really nice that you can enjoy something with someone you’ve never met before and be able to divulge into a runaway conversation with them. Love you dude!❤️

[@YarkVI]

Man, I've just discovered you with this video and it's a great find! I discovered dubstep when I was 10 (in 2010) and I've never been out of it since. Listening to Skream, Burial and Phaeleh again has made my day, but as someone who loved dubstep before and after 2010, what I particularly enjoyed was discovering the context of Brostep. Honestly, I can't even imagine how proud you must be of this video, which retraces your entire musical life. For my culture and nostalgia, thank you.

[@checkeredslime9478]

Watching Skrillex's Nardwaure interview made me feel so sorry for him. He got so much hate during dubstep's pique popularity, and you can tell he's legitimately happy to be treated so kindly.

[@sol5038]

I remember how he posted Aphex Twin's Flim on fb, calling it his favourite song of all time, and his fans complained about the lack of a drop. Looking back, I really do feel bad for him.

[@TheAwesomoe]

He was really in touch with trends as well, his later songs were of a genre (sound) that would dominate the market a bit later.

[@drifter402]

@@sol5038 I remember the article where Aphex Twin agreed to let Skrillex have a go on his tank

[@carsandzombies7606]

Everyone hated him and memed him to death but yes, he is very nice. He was a singer in a emo/metal band then transitioned to Dubstep. Im not surprised he created brostep. Metallic sounds got introduced due to his past lol.

[@grandtheftautocj]

@@sol5038 That was such an iconic moment.

[@berke2336]

it was weird being an American in high school that loved the subtler British stuff like Silkie, Goth Trad, and Skream seeing brostep/Skrillex blow up and everyone started talking about "this crazy new music called dubstep"

[@DistrictWitch]

man, as an english person, you are what we wanted lol. Not THEM, Aaaa. Why do americans always ruin British music genres? It's like some 'bruh' at a frat party was like 'TURN IT UP LOUDDDERR, FK THE BASS TRN UP THE MIDZZZ', and then it all went downhill from there.

[@Johnpinckney98]

@@DistrictWitch I want to ask you something. What do people think of the newcomers of the genre (5+ years ago) Chime, Oliverse, Teminite? I know they all can't bring back what dubstep was, but are they doing a good enough job with what the genre has developed into now (in your or your peers opinion)?

[@RiceCubeTech]

@@Johnpinckney98 teminite is hardly new, I can remember jamming to some of his songs back in freshman of high school, and I’m a sophmore in college now. Been almost 6 years.

[@testdrivefan1]

@@Johnpinckney98 Teminite has been producing since 2013 or so. He's not a newcomer nowadays. And simply IMO dubstep can't go back to only the dark sounds of the pre-Skrillex era. It needs to be varied in order to strive. And all of the current dubstep artists nowadays really are helping with this. There are multiple styles for everyone to hear.

[@CallowaySchmidt]

Bassnectar is what got me interested in the genre

[@jigglykarp]

I didn’t know dubstep was so much more, holy fuck.

[@strudelh]

Same, I didn't know you could go deeper into the genre lol

[@desireesmith862]

@@balloonfiesta15 I feel a little bad because I listened to bro step in fourth grade and thought I was the coolest. I love the video though. Edit: Spelling

[@wooyaa8152]

and it's EVEN more than this too.

[@samc5934]

Mark Donald no one ever said that brostep isn’t dubstep lol, it’s a strand variation of the UK movement. This dude never once said it was inherently garbage, just that the commercialization and figurehead of the genre didn’t do brostep or anything of the other strand variations of the genre Justice. He uses negative connotation because like it says in the description this is entirely subjective and only one perspective lol. He’s introducing music he enjoys aswell as expanding upon the masses idea of the genre, THATS A GOOD THING.

[@zazacrumchy3483]

There’s even more sub genres like riddim

[@leahre]

this video entirely changed and shifted the music I listen to so thank you for showing me this whole world I've explored for the past 3 years

[@rhettorical]

This feels like a man's soliloquy for a lost love. It's not a documentary about dubstep, it's a story of a man coming to terms with the fact that everything has an expiration date and life just keeps moving on.

[@ab_aliens]

Exactly. It's about him, not the music. Because the music is fine. Always been.

[@alextomlinson]

@@ab_aliens nothing about Skrillex is fine

[@ab_aliens]

@@alextomlinson Skrillex is an artist, not a genre.

[@alextomlinson]

@@ab_aliens Skrillex is an artist who makes a very specific type of music. That "music" is largely void of melody. Whether music needs to include melody or structure or not is up for debate. I think it does. Maybe with some exceptions, Skrillex not being one of them. While I do agree that this video is as much about himself as it is the apparent downfall of the genre, I think he does have a good point that until the likes of Skrillex hit the mainstream, the artists were plentiful and new sounds were being experimented all the time. Skrillex seemingly collapsed the whole thing. The genre was booming even when Benga, Coki and Skream were being aired on BBC radio1extra(an alternative, more underground station to the popular BBC radio 1) As soon as Skrillex started getting played on BBC Radio 1, the genre imploded. It declined in popularity DUE to the nature of his songs and their lack of melody and structure. THEN interest in other artists dwindled too, and new artists ceased to come up and experiment. Skrillex had left such a bad stain on the genre that not many artists wanted to continue to produce. Shows declined, private listening declined as the groupthink of society turned its back on an otherwise eclectic and functional genre.

[@ab_aliens]

@@alextomlinson As I said, good music is always there. I don't care about the popularity of a genre, the uprising or downfall on mainstream media or ears, because it is irrelevant. In the end, the best - most influential - artists where never mainstream, so this is no excuse. I'm listening to electronic music about 20 years. I saw many genres having ups and downs for various reasons, but I never complained because I was ,and still am, hungry on discovering new sounds. You can be bored and complain, or you can be active and evolve. That's my opinion. The fact is that you are wrong about the void of melody or structure in this kind of music.

[@dmdeign7116]

I don't listen to any dance music whatsoever, I'm primarily a metalhead, and somehow stumbled upon this video. Gotta say, this look into your world was truly eye opening, and makes me understand people's love for this music way more. Damn good video bro!

[@1904jin]

You should listen to PhaseOne. Its a good mix of metal and dubstep!

[@careem3463]

@@1904jinwhy would someone do that ?

[@MmeHyraelle]

​@@1904jinigorrr out there too :)

[@jefe536]

Anymore recommendations? Drooling over the sounds from PhaseOne and Igorrr

[@TheOnlyShadowWarrior]

​@@jefe536 Truth, Distance, Amit, Tunnidge.. Check these artists out

[@Chocobo_Kwehh]

Never even heard of what dubstep TRULY is. Im a newfag to the dubstep genre and fell in love with brostep and melodic dubstep back in 2016 when I was still in junior high, CHIME, Virtual Riot, Bandlez and the OG DISCIPLE groups were my fans just as they were probably also fans of Mala, Burial, Coki. I really love that melodic and heavy head bopping with a bass so deep it could destroy my eardrums and because of that I really felt like I found MY music. at the time I didnt know what music I liked, i just listened to whatever was popular on MTV like Taylor Switft or Katy Perry but when I finally listened to new wave dubstep artist like Virtual Riot I found artists that could never even be on the car radio or tv. San Holo, Laura Brehm, Feint even people who dont do dubstep like Fox Stevenson, Porter Robinson, Nanomake. Sure some people might call me cringe and immature for not even knowing the REAL dubstep but I really dont care. I found my music and I have a lot thanks and respect to the artists who introduced me to it and also the OG artists who made it happen.

[@chuu3u]

dude this is exactly how i feel ! i grew up with skrillex and fell in love with the whole genre! ur not alone :,)

[@bloxguy999]

Bro this is totally me but 4 years later in 2020 LMAO, I was listening to like 80s, 90s, and whatever on the radio, but that was like listening to music just to listen to music. I remember getting the random urge to listen to Newgrounds tunes like older Bossfight and Waterflame. Then, Spotify decided to recommend me Self Destruct by Pegboard Nerds and that less than a minute preview got me HOOKED. I started going through all the 2012-2015 era Monstercat artists like Ramses B, Tristam, and the like Au5. YT started showing me REALLY GOOD producers like Savant, Koan Sound, and Culprate that do some dubstep but go beyond. I discovered DSG and started listening to stuff by Spag Heddy, Teminite, and Panda Eyes on there. Got into Virtual Riot, Ray Volpe, and a bunch of Disciple crew after seeing them a few times on DSG. Same thing with NSD artists like Midnight T, MARUDA, and Megaladon. Also same thing with Rushdown artists like Skybreak, CHIME, and Paper Skies. Right now, I have a goal to have 1000 tunes on my dubstep playlist.

[@skyalkemade605]

The strange thing is that dubstep is still very much alive. In my city of Amsterdam we have tons of parties with well known dubstep artists where tickets sell out often.

[@apmac6723]

that's cos those kids are down to party 24-7

[@skyalkemade605]

@@apmac6723 I'd actually put the age range between 20 and 30 over here. And dedicated fans to certain artists. It's more the drum and bass that attracts younger party kids

[@bleepbloop134]

Waah waah its not real dubstep waah waah

[@thavrisco1632]

I feel like contemporary trends die faster on average in the US and Canada compared to Europe, Asia, or Latin America. There's a certain meme that I always see when browsing Chinese social media, Brazilians were still playing Among Us a while after it died in the US, and Amsterdam still appreciates dubstep.

[@Jaymo00]

Dubstep is alive and well in California! Theres TONS of clubs, raves and big festivals over here that play dubstep and all its subgenres.

[@dubfx]

Nice work.. Festival promoters also had a hand in the change of sound.. They new dubstep was popular but didn't like it when the djs dropped tunes that people didn't rave too, so they only booked the tare out djs.. Especially because at that same time dnb was already super tearout with artists like pendulum, noisia etc..

[@Avtomat]

Yeah, it basically comes back promoters without an understanding what a dubstep night was and how the crowds normally reacted

[@ruffhouse9760]

yoooo its the legend himself!!!!

[@ferguspitcher7911]

Yea I agree, DnB is lucky because it has always been very rave oriented, high tempo and often heavy

[@deeplaysit]

Holy shit man, I'm so happy to see you here. I totally agree with the dnb thing. Not that they are bad guys but the baron/Andy c/jump up biz that was happening in dnb at the time was one of the reasons dubstep spoke to me so strongly. Luckily dnb has come full circle.. Thank fuck. Much love man, I regularly show your tunes to people I meet :)

[@couldntmixapotnoodle]

@@ferguspitcher7911 nah hold oldskool rave relying heavily on breakbeat is prettymuch dead now thanks to promoters and producers pushing for a weak wet and slippery synth sound. Thats what happened to hardcore around 1999-2000.

[@forkyforklift2924]

ive been a metalhead since my early teens and even though the difference between your taste in music and mine differ vastly i found it oddly pleasant to notice throughout listening to your retrospective how similar we feel about our passion and how much I still could relate to your story

[@goofygoodpasture8511]

I used to only listen to metal, but calmer dubstep is pretty amazing

[@doggodoggo3000]

i like to experience all that the world has to offer. There are more talented people than ever and locking yourself into one genre seems scary and weird to me. Like people who listen to nothing but the pop or country station, people who lived through the 80s or 90s and only listen to music from then. There is SO MUCH music out there, im constantly finding dope stuff that ive never heard. Lately i listen to alot of chill stuff but its kind of all over the place. i really like internet radio feeding me new stuff. And youtube, there is this channel called "alona chemerys"? that had a ton of cool music and art. i fed the ones i like into spotify and that has based my listening experience for the last year or so lol. not just music from that channel but also stuff that eventually led me too. And there is alot of talent in pop music even so im not automatically opposed to anything popular.

[@darwinwatterson4568]

​@@doggodoggo3000i like u please please share music with me. we should be friends who share random music hahah ^^

[@ACoupleStoners]

This video is mind blowingly well produced. The writing, the research, the music, absolutely incredible.

[@n8rb8]

As an American dubstep fan who got into the genre around 2010-2012, this is really cool perspective. I don't know if you've ever revisited the landscape of the genre as it is now, but I think it's back to a period of incredible diversity in my opinion. A lot of artists playing with a lot of different techniques to create that intense oppressive atmosphere that you mention. Definitely a lot of tearout influence in a lot of subgenres even today.

[@inthesauce]

this

[@hakonaae9636]

Do you have any recommendations?

[@n8rb8]

@@hakonaae9636 Yeah for sure. Some of my favorite artists out there right now are: Virtual Riot, Ganja White Night, bd hbt, PhaseOne. There's still a lot of influence from oldschool Tearout Dub, but there's also a lot of influence nowadays from the even older Garage styles this video touched on. This little list I gave is in my opinion a decent little slice of the scene nowadays.

[@inthesauce]

@@hakonaae9636 Chibs, sasori dubs, subfiltronic, reductor, koffi, joker, aweminus, odd prophet, syzy, akeos, phiso

[@RewindOfficialDoesMusic]

@@n8rb8 i love simulation!!! such a good album

[@JakeLDS]

Another thing about the smoking ban. People used to smoke a lot of weed on the dancefloor. No one was ever really dancing dancing, we'd all just stand there in the dark nodding to the beat, deep in the groove as we were blazing. After the smoking ban came in you couldn't really smoke weed while you enjoyed a set so the vibe changed a lot. People were drinking more and loads of ketty teenagers started flailing around on the dance floor. I remember there was a very distinct way that the crowds behaviour changed because of it.

[@Testgeraeusch]

In one of the local clubs they would still smoke occasionaly. On every door there was a piece of paper stating the smoking ban an the fibers were greyed out from the ashes and fog. It was rare enough that you could still hang out there without getting a headache after a few years of that ban in action, but you could still smell the residues.

[@RyoMassaki]

There never was a smoking ban in the Berlin underground scene (not enforcable) but i do remember that there was an influx of people who took amphetamine/cocaine as well as some who took Ketamine after a certain point in time. But the overwhelming majority was always fueled by alcohol and/or weed.

[@Testgeraeusch]

@@RyoMassaki I know some clubs would spray oil on the smooth surfaces in the bathroom to piss off people trying to do coke in there: it would soak into the oil within seconds and be unusable.

[@RyoMassaki]

@@Testgeraeusch That's creative. Lol. I can understand though. There is something about cocaine that just makes people insufferable if their personality isn't great. Most people can't handle it and turn into egoistical assholes. Me included, that's why I don't take it.

[@Testgeraeusch]

The closest i came to drugs was a dude bringing a cake to a party and one hour later being informed that he should mark said cake somehow as it contained weed. He was so lost, he forgot to tell everybody what he had made.

[@thomasmahoney7538]

This is like the best dubstep documentary ever. Brilliant insight, not just into dubstep but music in general. Excellent.

[@thomasmahoney7538]

And I was over ten years into jungle/breakbeat and other underground music when the smoking ban came in. You've made me realise with video what a mad difference it made. It was crazy how the scene changed after that ban.

[@rorz999]

Don't know if you've seen the documentary 'Bassweight' but that's good too!

[@doodlekid9864]

u clearly yhavent watched that many dubstep docs...

[@XckBrm]

First off, I thought this video was going to be a hitpiece, and I'm so delighted that it's not. This video hit me right in the feelings. As an American that was introduced to the genre right while the change from traditional dubstep into brostep was happening, you put to words a lot of feelings I've experienced while watching the change happen in real time. I remember first hearing Skrillex and thinking it was rad because outside of things like Excision and other producers like that, it was undeniably some of the cleaner heavier tunes happening. But my introduction to the genre was being at weird house parties and dark basement raves where dubstep was this weird music that captured the atmosphere and feeling of being in a big city, at a weird place, probably on some strange chemical, and it was utterly hypnotic. It's a vibe I've been chasing for years, that now only exists in going back and listening to old tracks that came out pre-2008 or so. I still remember hearing that music for the first time on big speakers. It was truly other. Watching the way the genre grew in to the ethos of metal and it becoming a pissing contest of 'who can make the heaviest drop' was exactly like watching the hardcore punk scene do the exact same thing at more or less the same time, which is what brought me out of hardcore and in to rave culture to begin with. I'm most assuredly rambling here, but suffice it to say that this doc put me in my feelings a little bit and recaptured a little bit of what it was like when I first found the genre and reminded me what I loved about it initially. Anyway. Time to listen to Skream and Benga on repeat for a few days. Cheers, mate. Brilliant work.

[@MayFlwr]

growing up in America and being in middle school from 2009-2012 Skrillex was my introduction to electronic music, in the following years, I had to backtrack and find all these older tunes after the fact. Found burials music YEARS later. I have most of his tunes on vinyl and he's one of my favorite artists of all time now. Obviously this is your video but I think there is room for a duality of people who love the newer sounds and appreciate the old, I had no choice, and love both! love this video though man!

[@escapefromtibet2530]

yooo funny seeing you here

[@nutting2868]

Ya you're story is very similar to mine when it comes to discovering dubstep.. Started out with Skrillex, Flux Pavilion alll the mainstream guys and when I started to find what was more my sound I got sucked down a rabbit hole of all the OG DJ's in the dubstep and house scene. It made watching this video really nostalgic in such a unique way since i've kind of learned to appreciate both sounds.

[@timpeterson175]

There’s music before burial and then music after burial

[@TriSamples]

All genres have a time span. UK garage used to be underground and exactly like dubstep was early on. It became popular over time and was destroyed by its success. The key to happiness is not to follow a genre but just find things you like and keep searching.

[@gregt8033]

I'm

[@dodoshlodo]

Except for Drum & Bass

[@wakeyskate]

@@dodoshlodo dnb is a bit of an enigma I think, most genres in popular dance music sit between the 110-140 bpm side of things so it’s easier for people to transfer between them. I’ve know plenty of people who’ve moved between funky house to dubstep to minimal to tech house etc. There’s nothing wrong with that but with dnb being nearly on its own at the top end of the spectrum there’s there’s a wider spectrum to work with within the dnb umbrella, which I love by the way. It’s outlived lots of ‘fads’ (harsh term but let’s be real) along the way and still going strong so totally agree with you.

[@Flokoli1]

@@wakeyskate I love neuro funk and drumstep

[@wakeyskate]

@@Flokoli1 like the former but not so keen on the latter

[@ThatswhatsupTWU]

You need to make a Spotify playlist homie

[@lasarousi]

For fuck sake yes.

[@larissacristinaamaral1964]

Definitly!

[@lenjaminbang]

i know fucking right

[@aaronswanson6227]

Here ya guys go, 135 hours of dubstep/brostep/just all around bass music.

[@trs4184]

@@aaronswanson6227 Did you mean to add a link?

[@zenithquazar]

being introduced to Burial distracted me so much I forgot to finish this video for two years.

[@Yossus]

Tantacrul sent me and I'm glad he did! From the perspective of a German who lived in London '11-'14, thus only experiencing the tail end of the development you described, it was really fascinating to learn more about the origins of this music. And now I want to check out, like, a solid 80% of the tracks you mentioned. I also really connected to your coda, where you talk about the musical origin story. For me, it's not dubstep, it's a cappella music. The fact that I feel I share your truth coming from such a vastly different musical direction really speaks to the profoundness of your thoughts, I think.

[@zZerozZz]

My dubstep journey was backward. Skrillex got me into dubstep, then I researched the history of the genre and found out about these old school UK dubstep artists in the video, and I love both classic dubstep and brostep equally. While I think tastes are subjective, and things like this will always happen, even now in brostep (people who like riddim and those who don't), I hope people are more open minded because dubstep as a whole is still going strong and there are so many talented artists worth checking out in the new wave of brostep. I'm still a frequent fan of DUPLOC and recently really digging the "color bass" subgenre with artists like Chime and his label Rushdown, go give them a listen to see if you like it or not!

[@chrizi7753]

Color bass and riddim are so fire dude and the old school bro step is fire too

[@HieronymousLex]

Riddim was also killed in the same way. I guess I’m not surprised that we can’t even have this one video for the people who were actually there. Even this has to be taken over by millions of brostep fans talking about how they love both, completely missing the point

[@jornl9177]

Same here: coming from a middle European country I couldnt afford a bass heavy soundsystem listened to Skrillex got bored by brostep which I considered as dubstep and found other genres and subgenres I wouldn't have heard otherwise.

[@JohnPaulBuce]

OMG SAME!!!

[@loyaltyuncrythro6788]

@@HieronymousLexas long as they start to understand the roots of dubstep and listen to what the vid has to say then I don’t see how being a gatekeeper is equally any better then an ignorant bro step listener. You were there ? Aight cool, people tryna to head back to the past on their accord and dig up what the forefathers of the genres left behind, it ain’t their fault all they had around them was brostep at the time

[@somfierce]

Videos like this one are the reason why I watch KZbin “video essays”. This is so genuine, passionate, self aware, and humorous. Going to watch a second time now

[@Levegy]

KZbin should push these kind of content and not the edgy clickbait ones

[@mingusfan]

I'm loving this kind of thing! Any others you'd recommend?

[@irbis7656]

@@Levegy are you kidding me this is literally an edgy clickbait title

[@catzor4795]

This is just elitist pretentiousness though.

[@voynich7825]

@@mingusfan Jacob Geller's video essay called "Dark Souls 3 is thinking of ending things". Not music-related at all, but surely an interesting watch if you like this style of video

[@LeonardoYoshimitsu]

Great video, can tell how much love you put into it. As a hip hop head who recently got into electronic music via Burial, Four Tet, Aphex, this video is perfect, not only for giving me history but a million great songs to listen to. I wish I'd found this genre sooner. Part of me feels regret having missed its birth and growth, but now I can walk through the immortal ruins and crank my headphones up, wondering what it was like... Thank you for all the footsteps to follow.

[@yezmo5688]

This video is actually making me realize why as a kid i hated trying to share what genre of music i listen to.

[@OfficialGoldenboy]

Bruuuh same but we got the chance to bring it back & better !!

[@David-ck3gv]

I usually say electronica now. It's broad enough and also somewhat different from EDM

[@UNCOOKEDTV]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKvEfYqel85_e5o

[@1337-i3v]

When I was 15-17 and people would ask me to control the music at a party, I would because sure I like it... But the party goers 99% of the time didn't. I quit around 2015 to share my music with anyone. I knew no one liked it so why torture them. It sounds much more harsh in text lol It's been years. I'm used to it and I'm not a festival (or party) goer anyways. Very introverted. I actually even prefer earphones. I say I listen to EDM these days. I go into deeper level details if the person seem to know anything or ask for it.

[@interloop]

I just say "electronic shit" and then don't elaborate

[@Patricia_Taxxon]

Even as a brostep listener/producer on occasion, I didn't really understand why the name was shared. I feel like I've gained a new understanding of the lineage, I'm thinking someone should continue the story of how the genre continued evolving after this point.

[@donal6667]

Hi, I like your vids!

[@MagneticDwarfReptile]

hey patricia, pls make some more topical music based videos. I know you have good taste.

[@kenshin4113]

Pat, I need a windows XP-default wallpaper-night core-AMV-Deviant Art Sonic OC type beat.

[@jacksonjames6071]

Yoooo. Big fan here.

[@AustinSimard]

Yeah, I'd like to know how riddim came to be.

[@krovlood]

This video should be archived before all copyright strikes down

[@hardgainer7396]

amazing work man. I see this for like 4th time I guess and keep it sending to my younger friends who are curious enough. You make this fringe history not to be forgotten

[@benfletcher8100]

I was just talking to someone the other day and was like “Remember when dubstep was huge and Skrillex was one of the top artists?”

[@ChodeMaster]

Ikr

[@Gianfranco_69]

I would have slapped you around your dirty mouth for saying skrillexx

[@benfletcher8100]

@@Gianfranco_69 And why would you do that?

[@veronikat6996]

@@Gianfranco_69 Chill out dude

[@woods3757]

@@Gianfranco_69 skrillex

[@user-bv5kx3jb5n]

I never really cared for dubstep much but something about hearing somebody talk about something theyre clearly passionate about just makes me sit and listen. I came out of this video a nice piece of history about the scene and a newfound appreciation for the genre

[@thoughtsontape4283]

As an a young American who grew up as Skrillex was blowing up, I have to say the way you describe Burial is the exact way I felt the first time discovering skrillex and zomby. I’m 18 now but @ the time I was 8-9 years old levitating to these crazy electronic beats. To this day that feeling still resonates.

[@lynnadurst1429]

Glad you got to hear the legends featured on the soundtrack of this vid. I loved skrillex first then moved into zomby, kode9 and found my way to burial. So many directions to go when you look into where these things come from. Hyperdub best of mixes changed shit for me.

[@andresvalverde5182]

Same, turning 21 in 2 Months, my mate, just 10 years old woke me up to some Dubstep (not skrillex) i still don't know what that was. I dived more into it and started listening to Skrillex at 10-13nyears old until it became edgy and i grew out of it.

[@nomannershannerz5578]

naw guys, skrillex is amazing, but he's really discribing Arkasia, and not burial. visualization of emotion and feeling through your ears, it shouldnt be possible

[@threeleafclover6003]

Almost the same way I felt I'm nearly 16, when I found skrillex I was 8 at the time and me and my friend were playing forza horizon online with each other for the first time and we both heard cinema and to both of us it was the most alien dounding thing I'd ever heard (I was used to hearing Prince, Michael Jackson and the Arctic monkeys every now and then) it sounded liek nothing I'd ever heard before, after that me and my friend found it on KZbin and went on a skrillex binge for like 6 months it was amazing

[@sibulu2878]

U mean zomboy ?

[@insertsomethin]

The irony here is that this video probably played a role in skrillex’s hiatus. Which in turn caused the return of Skrillex in peak form - a blend between new music production abilities and a serious return to the roots of dubstep. If you listen to anything Skrillex has put out the last couple of years he really has embodied the old school dubstep sound with a new age twist. Which, has in turn created a huge new offshoot of 140bpm sound that is extremely nostalgic. Thank you for making this history/commentary piece! 💙

[@PhiBuddha]

I played this video on a whim just for background noise while in the kitchen, but I found myself really paying attention and being interested in the story. Thank you for making this. I appreciate it.

[@joaodaimagemmental6065]

Exactly the same. Sat down to really watch it and take it in

[@David-ck3gv]

Lmao I played this while cooking and ended up eating toward the end haha. Same deal here

[@JohnDoe-rx3vn]

Unfun fact: The song sampled at the end of "shell of light" no longer exists. KZbin deleted the original video, and the artist doesn't have a copy. That song is one of the few places you'll ever hear those vocals

[@user-gu1il8dp7p]

I mean there’s definitely a copy of it physically or downloaded by a fan somewhere in the world let’s be honest lmao

[@JohnDoe-rx3vn]

@@user-gu1il8dp7p i'm hoping someone does, and replies back to me in defiance lol

[@HangOnThereSlick]

What is shell of light?

[@darragho6358]

@@HangOnThereSlick A burial track. Go watch RA's video on burials unture for more info

[@Chopperdragon39]

the creator of this video probably has it.

[@taliban_skate_vids]

I've always been musically homeless. I like darkwave, country, thrash metal, synth, anything. But I've never been so entrenched in a genre as it was happening. I always arrive at the aftermath, when there's no chance of music coming out, or all I have to hold onto is a shitty mp3 I downloaded from youtube. It blows my mind that all of this happened without me knowing it was even there, it's existence is completely new to me.

[@UsedNapkin3115]

Bruh I’ll be listening to Megadeth and then go listen to fuckin Waterflame sometimes lmao.

[@norgepalm7315]

@@UsedNapkin3115 👏 wow

[@DealingLace]

How the fuck am I supposed to beat Takeshi’s Challenge, Takeshi?

[@taliban_skate_vids]

@@DealingLace just don't fuck up

[@theeoddments960]

@@UsedNapkin3115 here’s your award 🥉

[@digitalhero7488]

this was beautiful. I can relate so so much. Thank you very much!

[@ch33zer]

I feel like this is the standard progression when a niche genre blows up. As the music gets bigger it gets boiled down to the parts people find the most enjoyable. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, or with the people that enjoy it. Music doesn't need to be a subtle deep experience at all times, sometimes it can just be some shit you headbang to. I understand that it can really suck for those who like a particular aspect, though.

[@LoudPaul1]

it can also get boiled down to the parts people find the most profitable.

[@f67739]

there is a huge problem with that when you're involved in making the music or establishing the scene

[@sophiafortyfour]

I bet garage heads hated what they loved turned into. Strange, deep, and slow music.

[@123eee]

@@rorz999 I've just posted a comment related to this - my feeling at the time was that after the financial crash people needed to burn the anxiety off somehow (and yeah, sure, some people profited from the crash, but they sure as fuck weren't at any dubstep nights)

[@mikedavidson6454]

@@LoudPaul1 in terms of music those are the same things typically

[@scuffy-osu727]

I was expecting pure slander on this kind of music however you have introduced me to a genre ive only dipped my toes into once before, thank you. the editing and quality on this video is fucking nuts

[@thegrandnil764]

I love modern dubstep, and old dubstep.

[@TheIngie44]

Hearing the phrase "a no scope head shot" reeeally took me back somewhere I wasn't expecting to go today.

[@flux_kiwi8930]

The passionate way you describe music is poetry, this video is a masterpiece. Thank you for sharing your story, you definetly encouraged me to dive in this genre much more!

[@spurdo]

Mark Fisher's writings on Burial (and the spectres of the mid-2000's dubstep and rave scenes) are just phenomenal. They put words to the hitherto indescribable feelings of melancholy and urban placelessness Burial's music filled me with. Thank you for mentioning him. RIP k-punk.

[@ca9drop]

What are those writings?

[@spurdo]

@@ca9drop Ghosts of My Life features a good amount of writing on Burial, so I'd suggest checking that out! Here's a post he originally made on the k-punk blog that he later published in the aforementioned book: k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/007666.html. There's also at least one interview they've had together: www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/interviews/burial_unedited-transcript.

[@michaelgavin4045]

Rusko's quote towards the end about brostep being his fault and his being in the US for too long really stuck out to me. About a decade ago, we used to have not-exactly-legal shows in a small studio space called Hour Haus, located in a rough Baltimore neighborhood. Around 2008, Rusko played there one night until the cops came at about 4 AM (I remember dragging a nitrous tank in a duffel bag out the front door right in front of them, haha). Rusko loved the space's vibe and said it reminded him of the clubs back in the UK. About 2 years later, he was playing on the same large stages as Skrillex at festivals such as Identity. I appreciate this video's perspective in that it reminded me of how as an adolescent and early adult I used to seek out sounds on the frontier of the future, and then hold a grudge once they "sold out." Now in my mid 30s, I think this kind of hate is a little silly- so what if the mainstream doesn't know what "real" dubstep is? It gives me an opportunity to educate some people on how an exploritory sound turned into pop music. After all, everything that is pop has its roots in a once obscure and exciting scene.

[@mosley3485]

Imagine you're on the street busking with a little acoustic guitar. You're pouring your heart and soul into it and a few people stop to listen. You keep going and a small crowd starts to gather. Then some dude with a soundsystem shows up, dumps it down next to you and starts blasting a really shit version of the same song, completely drowning you out. Your only option is to get up and leave. The US artists basically stole the sound, ruined it and took it to a bigger audience. Our scene was literally raped, pillaged and all but erased from history. Any and all resentment is 100% justified. The artists who pioneered the sound quickly became unable to sell records or get booked to play shows. A lot of them are complete nobodies working 9-5 jobs now.

[@monogramadikt5971]

yeah, nah, sorry mate. prefer the non watered down version of every genre at the end of the day thanks

[@mikedavidson6454]

@@mosley3485 god youre so bitter and incorrect. The original dubstep sound was never going mainstream. And you can only keep a relatively underground following going for so long in a rapidly expanding scene of music. I stoll wosh there was more oldschool dubstep sounds going around. But the scene clearly evolved. Theres nothing wrong with that at all. Again you just sound bitter comparing it to rape.

[@DeathSalsa]

I feel like thst is a fair critique. But when you're passionate about something and it warps beyond recognition, it can be hard to accept. And to feel that way is perfectly valid

[@argo9721]

@@mosley3485 oh my God, calm down bro it's not gonna kill you lol

[@stusux]

Mad props to the creator of this video, you explained your connection to the music and why you disliked the change in the genre, but also analyzed the reasons behind the change to the music/scene you loved so much. I feel I'm like 20 years older than you but also in my teenage years I was a part of a scene of music that started as underground, took off then became mainstream and "boring" to initial listeners and we cant help but feel let down, you addressed this beautifully in the last 5 minutes of the video. We'll always have the nostalgia in our spotify or whatever playlists as our life keeps going and music taste keeps evolving. Thanks you for introducing more tracks from dubsteps origins that we didn't know about.

[@2j.Stone_]

Great video, man ⛅️ I really appreciate that you took the time to share some of the history and your perspective on a scene that's always fascinated me. Listening to the humble beginnings of the genre coupled with the personal experiences of yourself and others while a little taste of everything played in the background - damn. Big respect to you for helping me discover some old gems haha

[@Cabbage22927]

Ive been telling people for years that dubstep is so much more than skrillex type of music. You did the genre a great service by going over the history in detail. There are some interesting details that i never even knew. I hope dubstep gets the redemption arc it deserves. Theres really nothing like it

[@MisyeDiVre]

It's coming brother

[@MooImABunny]

"the realization that I can no longer be part of a scene that'd been my home for the last 3 years hit me like a ton of bricks. I felt like I was being forced to surrender part of my identity, that I would never get back, and that really sucked." when you said that I felt that. I cried a little.

[@Mark-jx1gc]

The scene was awesome and felt special here in Amsterdam. Such good memories

[@hugmynutus]

still remember when back in 2010/2011 people on the internet would tell you "that ain't real dubstep, this is real dubstep" then send you a link to some of the best electronic music you ever heard.

[@pascha4527]

yeah, happened to me. And it shaped my taste in music.

[@kaeg.7800]

those were the days 🤧

[@illiciumverum6149]

Meanwhile nowadays you'll get called an elitist gatekeeper if you do this now lmao

[@HasturLaVishnu]

Good times

[@powertrip6426]

One of my best friends went to Colorado and lived there for like 4 years during that time. He came back with a mix and fucked my whole head up. He showed me heyoka and I was confused at first, then intrigued. It definitely was not formulaic during that time imo. People were still experimenting.

[@gabrielhill1725]

Whoa- just finished this one, and I wanted to thank you for such a thorough and well produced essay. It was both touching and informative- a hard balance to strike! You really transported me to a time/place/scene that I had no part in whatsoever, except for the occasional glimpse (Burial being a major touchstone for me back in the day). But I loved it the ride you took us on. Thanks so much! I look forward to following your work!

[@copelandcory]

I'm an American and I literally only ever knew Dubstep as skrillex. I just went and listened to Burial and I almost can't believe my ears. This is really wonderful.

[@voynich7825]

Welcome to the south pole. We have vinyl :p The dubstep scene still is around and healthy, and there are even US based labels pushing the deep sound, like "Deep, Dark & Dangerous" and "ZAMZAM Sounds". If you want any particular pointers, feel free to hit me up any time :)

[@Yisus3000]

@@voynich7825 could you post here some names to listen pls?

[@Desikz]

@@Yisus3000 some labels killing it right now are Deep Medi Musik, Deep Dark and Dangerous, White Peach or follow some artists like Mala, Silkie, Commodo, Kahn, Truth, a good starting point is the playlist "Sub low" on spotify too

[@mashkanyc]

Same. I thought everything else except “brostep” he mentions here is called drum and bass. Maybe bc in US, dubstep as we know it here was the evolution of big room edm..

[@voynich7825]

@@mashkanyc Drum and Bass usually sits at a Tempo of around 170 beats per minute, while dubstep is at around 140. If you want to find out more about drum and bass, check out Alix Perez and Skeptical :)

[@netherworldofmind7402]

This is a fabulous documentary, every genre should have this critical retrospective and you did it to this to give it justice, I will listen soon or later to all this musical history

[@Gianfranco_69]

Ikr..... And they wonder why broadcast television is dead

[@inma5665]

epicaaaaa

[@altokia2724]

Seeing the scene grow is the best part about new types of music.

[@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043]

I hope someone does a video like this on hardstyle, there's so much things that could be talked about that genre

[@Zephyrs009]

Y'know, as an American my first exposure to "Dubstep" was Skrillex and his schlock made me write the genre off as soulless and empty, devoid of substance or meaning. Watching this video kinda makes me feel bad for dismissing the genre so wholeheartedly

[@GANO.]

This is beautiful

[@adamwyatt1902]

Good. Cuz you should feel bad. A life changing genre is now degraded. Metal is a similar topic.

[@youtubehastakenovermylife4979]

I heard dubstep for the first time when I was 24 in 2011 and I said “this stuff sucks. Like it’s a fuckin joke and will be a joke in five years”. And....

[@1fault]

skrillex is a god

[@yuxanne.]

Hardstyle embraces the huge 50k festivals on the contrary lol, but yeah skrillex was my intro to dubstep but I grew out of him pretty quickly, after I started making music I started appreciating him again tho, sound signature was crazy for the time lol

[@Rob_NEWS_99]

Thank you for sharing your story through the scene! Finding the little corners of the scene all over the uk and the resurgence in 140 from labels like 1985 and Critical in the last few years has been great. Especially someone who's come from dnb and found themselves loving the lower tempo stuff 🔥