All New Perks and Changes with Hound Master 8.4.0 - Dead by Daylight

[@GG-kn2se]

Reminder dead by daylight mobile players have been able to see each other’s perks in the lobby for over a year. HUD improvements are a joke when that’s the contrast.

[@iheartblock3792]

I think they’ve been able to do that ever since dbd mobile existing. I know they’re separate dev teams, but it’s WILD they haven’t implemented the same idea.

[@Gaminghex31]

The only things I could see stopping them from fixing that is; Spaghetti code that could break multiple somethings if they changed it, laziness, or both. As a UE5 developer myself UI and HUD is one of the easiest things to implement

[@snewp_e2139]

The HUD improvements aren’t a joke, being able to see what a survivor is doing at all times is still really really good. Just sucks that we still can’t see what perks everyone is running 😭

[@illitaret8780]

Surely they are just doing it to spite us! Or perhaps it is more difficult than we would think…

[@DunoPriv]

They don't want people to dodge lobbies

[@westcoast9158]

Additional note about No Quarter, it hard counters self-heal Syringes; the broken effect currently triggers regardless of when the heal is cancelled.

[@Teroo1234]

Which is most likely a bug

[@ehehehehehe9661]

​@@Teroo1234 Well in theory using a syringe is cancelling healing...

[@tmoney1487]

Why are you self caring when a syringe is active?

[@ThePowerofCutleries]

@@tmoney1487 That's... not at all what they were saying.

[@victorfromm9355]

​@@tmoney1487 you have to heal yourself with a medkit in the firstplace to use a syringe. I don't see what your missing bro

[@tmoney1487]

You cant combine the new "shoulder the burden" perk with deliverance because once you get hooked after taking a hook state you will immediately be on 2nd hook stage where unhooking yourself is impossible.

[@cameronwilsonfan]

you could have a teammate that is being tunneled be given back their Deliverance by having you shoulder the burden them!

[@ScottJund]

oh im so dumb lmao

[@worm11112]

u can u just have to unhook first normally so at the end of the day its still just deli and if u shoulder the burden after ud be put on death hook

[@tmoney1487]

​@worm11112 Thats not how the perk works, you cant shoulder the burden someone unless theyre on hook. Once they deli themselves that hook stage is permanent. You can shoulder the burden of their 2nd hook stage, but theyll still be on 2nd hook the next time theyget hooked after that. Deliverance simply doesnt work with the new perk.

[@worm11112]

@ unhook normally someone to activate deli you get hooked you use deliverance 1 hook stage on YOU shoulder the burden someone else 2 hook stages on YOU

[@killmaim4]

who up shouldering they burden

[@HML_Secondary]

Who up breaking they clean

[@thedanielbrigade6097]

Who up bursting they sprint

[@hunterward2857]

I’m out here shouldering they burden I got red stain on my back I’m shouldering they burden I’m stupid as fuck man I’m a survivor man This hurts my brain

[@toxkc]

😂😂😂😂😂 love this

[@Jefrejtor]

In the trial, straight up "shouldering" it. And by "it", haha. Well. Let's justr say. My burden

[@ChanceStudioStudio]

Hey Scott, just a heads up on the new Scourge Hook perk, It actually procs first outside of other scourage hook perks for unhooks. What this means is that you can do Jagged Compass, Gift of Pain/Floods of Rage, and it makes them proc every single time on every hook. It's far better than you think.

[@MiserableMuon]

That's insane

[@oodanna500]

hellooooo nurse and huntress, less time hunting for a scourge hook, more time pressuring gens and getting kills

[@ScottJund]

That's a pretty cool interaction but I don't think Gift of Pain and Floods of Rage are so meta to the point your entire build is now based around getting those to proc

[@TheCheese120]

​@@ScottJundThe game should be about what you find fun, not about trying to get the most meta build in the game

[@ChanceStudioStudio]

@@ScottJund The meta is in an interesting place and feels volatile (in a good way, feels like we're moving away from slowdown being the only choice), I could definitely see killers doing GoP/Lev/Flood/Jagg on never heal builds. Good survivors don't heal under hook, and Flood lets you know where they'll go to reset/heal. High mobility Killers can definitely take advantage. Don't know if it'll be meta, but it's definitely strong!

[@elstoner9514]

16:25 My favorite part in Halloween was when Micheal was right behind Laurie and said “It’s evil within time.” and started moon walking all over

[@BreadAccountant]

11:20 there was a very problematic build on demo where you would put portals in front of totems, run thrill of the hunt and devour hope and then you could always prevent the survivors from cleansing the totems. I think this is them trying to make this worse. Probably could have been done in a better way but idk

[@salazaarfyrfang2699]

At the very least it removes the "no brain/skill required" aspect of the build now. I don't think we'll see the end of this build but now you can't just slap down portals and get free info you have to actually monitor your totems or risk losing them

[@tanez778]

I don,'t play often anymore but whenever I played I used a shaman build on Demo kinda like Scott on Nemesis. But no need for the whistle, I used yellow/browns add ons for the shred recovery. Once you have the stacks of Devour Hope you just monitor it much more to be sure it's not touched, and you just need to press M2 for a very little time for that anyway.

[@pastorlul2384]

Devourgorgon, as showcased in Spookyloops most recent video

[@Shiokishisan]

Besides spookyloops, did anyone actually see a devourgorgon in... forever? i didnt even see that many demos to begin with and no devourgorgon on top of that

[@MikeGattsu]

@@Shiokishisan had a thrill penti devour undying demi last night actually lol

[@cameronyte]

I was still hoping they would change the effect of Tombstone Piece completely. It’s definitely not fun when your teammates give him so much stalk then you are the one that gets yeeted out of the game. Also he spends the first half of the match chasing literally nobody and it’s boring. That said, the rest of Meyers changes are nice

[@tmoney1487]

Ive brought this up before, and i agree. Tombstone shouldve been changed because by default its a super boring playstyle. Myers gets to walk around the map for 3-5 minutes staring at survivors then leaving when theyre fully stalked, and once it pops it disincentives chase because the counterplay is just to run into the closest locker or stick a gen in myers face so that he is forced to grab you and hook you instead of getting a free kill. Its a super boring playstyle for both sides and should definitely be changed still, even if its going to technically take longer to achieve the infinite tombstone like most people run after this patch.

[@dakota9821]

@@tmoney1487 you people need to learn how to loop, he's 7% slower when using tombstone

[@allusionari]

@@dakota9821 not tombstone piece, which is the problematic one, it is much stronger than the actual tombstone

[@BathtubGoat]

Jagged compass with Hangmans to relive that one ptb from years back

[@maxomega3]

real ones remember when rivaling bbq was exciting; we were so desperate for a meta shakeup after years of the same

[@elastico8576]

Scott, you might wanna take a look at the Demo changes again. There was no "make add-ons partially base kit" there. Since they buffed the setting speed, the entering speed and the traversal speed they nerfed the add-ons a bit that increase the time it takes to seal a portal for surviors. This was done because portals are easier to set and stronger in use, so now it's a higher risk not to seal it. Also harder to seal it because demo can travel to it sooner. They also changed Lifeguard whistle for a similar reason. It was very good as a hex totem protector and now with the faster portal entering and traversal speed it would be impossible to cleanse something like devour hope with a portal next to it.

[@MrErizid]

Shoulder the Burden incentivizes the killer to camp to take advantage of the expose. Because if the unhooker steals a hook stage and then goes down instantly to the expose, they are now on death hook instantly. This doesn't solve what BHVR wants to actually solve.

[@andrewmcnally5013]

The current limits on the perks, and the fact that that they are perks in the first place, are more of a glaring issue. I would rather dedicate my build to something fun or boosting my own preferred playstyle than having to counter the current annoying and probably toxic playstyle of whatever side I'm facing at the time.

[@yvng]

if the killer is camping tho the hooked person will gain anticamp. Your scenario only applies fully during endgame

[@Joeysworldtour315]

Camping is dead and so is tunneling

[@oodanna500]

@@yvng soloq really really enables strategies that would otherwise never work vs swf, soloq will instantly unhook the person being tunneled, the killer will distance camp and go to hook the moment some altruism point hunter goes for save, soloq doesnt do gens, etc...

[@Efnol]

Not only that - Theyre selling a bandaid fix for the most problematic thing in the game.

[@0meguh]

Tombstone piece hasn't changed at all with the requirement. The original value for it is 12.5 instead of 7.5 that was shown on the ptb, they only increased the requirement to get to t3 by 2.5 which is mostly mitigated by the new requirement for t2 which has been reduced by 2. It has only gone up by .5 while making it easier to mori everyone due to all survivors having 20 stalk points instead of 10

[@Cosmic_end]

I hope that they just worded it wrong and instead of “increase evil within iii to #” they actually meant “increase evil within iii by #”. Otherwise they would have buffed double ultra rare so that it takes 23 points to go from t1 to t3 instead of the current 30.

[@foomongus2935]

issue with the GF nerfs, having philly on new GF is actually a SLOWER stalk speed then having it on in current build. and while it is only by .05 seconds, its still a tiny bit slower

[@courtneyharris1006]

Read this as girlfriend nerf lmao

[@tanez778]

@@courtneyharris1006 Still haven't figured another alternative after a 10 sec. reflexion on it xd

[@courtneyharris1006]

@@tanez778 ghost face lmao

[@Tommyblueee]

@@courtneyharris1006Gface

[@Tommyblueee]

@@tanez778Gface

[@jihokim788]

Scott I would like to say that you completely misunderstood the Demogorgon add-on changes. All the add-ons were nerfed. The base-kit changes did not affect sealing time at all but all the add-ons had their sealing time increase nerfed.

[@mak0893]

I’m pretty sure the intention here was to kill the playstyle where demo would aggressively camp hex totems with lifeguard whistle and sealing addons. Or maybe they think the portal buffs made them more useful so they need their lethality reduced?

[@whorcares123]

Yeah, the Devour Hope, Thrill of the Hunt, Whistle build is basically dead now.

[@francooronacaratti9085]

​@@whorcares123and for what? to force a b-tier killer to play with the same slowdown build every killer uses, yay!

[@renarenacat]

@@mak0893 why tho? That playstyle is completely useless by atleast 2 ppl communicating?

[@TwoPercentAlmondMilk]

@@renarenacat huh... a build that's either completely useless against swf but stomps solo queue, why they would ever remove that?

[@jacrecrux4134]

0:38 most maps would be included since we all know you have a whole bakery hidden back there

[@gianlucaprivitelli2257]

I think you're wrong about the use of shoulder the burden with anti-tunnel build. Firstly it doesn't work at all with deliverance because when you're hooked after using it you'll be on your 2nd hook stage, and with decisive strike deadhard etc you'll get one long chase but if they want you dead you'll die because you basically put yourself on death hook if using shoulder the burden on a tunnelling killer

[@shadowking1448]

I’m still confused on the perk. Deliverance can work just based on the wording of the perk. The perk states you take a hook state from the person on hook. So let’s say you got hooked once already. You go up to someone who is on first hook and take a hook state from them and now you are back to not being hooked and then can use deliverance. But now that person on the hook is on death hook and can be tunneled. Unless im getting the wording of this perk wrong then someone please tell me. Also when I read the perk on how I interpret it, it sounded more like a grief perk. You just steal hooks from teammates in solo queue once per game. Now if the perk read “ when they are unhooked, they gain 1 hook state and you lose 1 hook state” then this could potentially solve tunneling. This perk sounds just bad in general lol.

[@kiwi6726]

@@shadowking1448i think you misunderstood the perk’s wording slightly, in your example if you’ve been hooked once and you go and unhook that other survivor on their first hook and use the perk, it then takes away their hook stage and gives it to you instead, leaving them with 0 hook stages and you at 2 edit: the deliverance point also applies if you start with 0 hook stages because if you use it then, you’re putting yourself at 1 hook stage which means the next time you get hooked you’ll be in struggle phase

[@jacobcoates7987]

Idk about running all-shaking thunder all the time, but I'll definently run it for a few days after a tome comes out with a balanced landing challenge 😂

[@DecisiveHard]

I’m just glad they decreased the time to “Marek” survivors here 12:17

[@PhilSwiftOfficial]

All shaking is somewhat better than it seems because it doesn’t get used up when you swing, so you can get multiple long swings with the effect in the 16secs

[@salazaarfyrfang2699]

$10 says they took away Lifeguard Whistle's effect after seeing SpookyLoop's latest video about Demogorgon and it's ability to keep Devour Hope up literally forever with that add-on

[@birken13]

Lifeguard Whistle got nerfed bcs of Devour Demo

[@jacobcoates7987]

I figured it was nerfed because of basement demo. A portal at the top and bottom of the stairs with whistle was pretty strong 😅

[@lunaliciousgeek]

Yes, for anyone who hasn't seen, SpookyLoopz just did a vid on this like 3 days ago. Basically, the notification when a survivor is near a portal [without having to charge your power] and putting a portal near a powerful totem (Devour Hope) made it near-impossible for survivors to cleanse that totem, removing the only survivor counterplay to strong hex perks like Devour Hope. You were just dead. So they're removing that "notify without charging power" feature of the add-on

[@Sweetness_01]

Spookyloopz new video got it nerfed. Dbd devs are literally incompetent and using KZbin videos and twitch streamers to determine balance rather than playing the fucking game 💀

[@jitteryjared5338]

@@birken13 yeah no fun add ons allowed, anything thats gets put into a yters video gets nerfed now

[@Gizma122]

Scott there’s a fly on your head

[@weskuhplayuh]

I'm glad Wesker got a buff, they destroyed his slowdown last patch. still no fucking anti camp on HUD, I don't know why you add a feature then never actually make it viable in the situation it is needed

[@elstrangeenemy887]

But what if I run No Mither and Treacherous Crows Scott?? Didn't think about that OP combo now did ya?

[@taneli5026]

It's always cool when a game's community slang words become actual terms used by the developers. Also, i am *very* surprised that they, effectively, didn't touch the tombstone addons.

[@serpent9423]

Wait a second... You telling me, that fat woman have a perk called "all-shaking thunder" and it works when she drops from a heght ???

[@mizark3]

Ghost Face doesn't need that change, he needs rewards for Marked downs, or punishments for being revealed. Since they made the change that you can't reveal Ghosty once Marked by him, a reveal punishment would make the most sense and be easiest to apply. A simple 8-10% hindered on reveal for however long the Killer Instinct duration slows people down a bit, doesn't stealth Freddy/Clown Medium vault conversion, and makes the Killer Instinct add-ons not useless. Alternatively, giving a lesser Gift of Pain would be perfect for a Marked Down 'buff'. Healing takes time, but you are 1-hit against a stealth Killer. So you can take the time to play safe (as you can keep an eye out to prevent being Marked) at a mild gen slowdown (5-8%?), or don't have a redbar and risk an easy injured down. They could even allow you to remove the debuff if you reveal Ghosty, encouraging more interaction between opposing players.

[@Bodyknock]

Scourge Hook Jagged Compass has interesting synergy with a couple of other Scourge Hook perks: - With Hangman’s Trick adding new Scourge Hooks to the map extends Hangman’s aura reading area when you carry survivors. With just a few hooks you could cover significantly more of the map for possible aura reads. You could even combine both with Monstrous Shrine and get the basement hooks added as an aura area as well. - Jagged Compass apparently triggers before the other unhook perks, so if you combine it with Gift of Pain or Floods of Rage then those will trigger on ANY hook because with Jagged Compass all hooks become Scourge Hooks the moment someone is unhooked.

[@tsunekofuwakage]

words cannot express how completely they killed my hype for the myer's buffs when they in their infinite wisdom added a nerf to scratched mirror. what was even the point of buffing tier one's speed since you now spend basically no time in it unless you're doing stealth myer's? Why would they add an unnecessary debuff to the ptb version when they should have just let it ride to see it if would remotely be a problem for a 110 stealth to exist. it wouldn't. 110 is pain to loop with and I assume he still have the useless tier one lunge.

[@whoudini7935]

We have chucky as proof of the strength of a 110 stealth killer. In short its not op. Maybe they were worried about mirror Myers at 110 being a menace to solo Q on lery's? idk

[@SweetLeavesXbox1]

@tsunekofuwakage It's arguably one of the most terrifying playstyles in the game. Wouldn't feel right if scratch mirror at lerrys got gutted 🤕

[@Leaf__22]

Because the playstyle is extremely boring unless you're still new to the game

[@courtneyharris1006]

Hate myers gimmicks personally I'm sure its fun but it always feels like bs matches.

[@taneli5026]

They effectively didn't do shit to scratched mirror Myers. Anything good or bad. And honestly? The playstyle doesn't need the 110%. You are permanently sneaky, which is strong on it's own, and you have ridiculous wallhacks to hit people with positioning.

[@Bodyknock]

FYI Shoulder the Burden isn’t compatible with Deliverance because when you use the perk you instantly gain a hook state and Deliverance only works on your first hook. So it’s impossible to Shoulder someone else and then if you get hooked right away use Deliverance to get yourself off the hook since you’ll already be on your second hook (or death hook if you shouldered when you had one already.)

[@erook2019]

Bro them buffing Dracula's wolf form is crazy, i've been destroying everyone with it before the patch, this will be unecessarily easy now..

[@sub7se7en]

No, you're crazy!

[@teache1210]

Bad troll bait

[@jacobcoates7987]

Wolf form has been getting unwarranted complaints since they took away hug tech. It was always good w/o hug tech but ppl underestimate the doggo.

[@ScottJund]

bruh its 0.15s faster pounce and one second less to get a haste orb its not gonna change much but its welcome IMO

[@Dhampire1976]

0/10 bait

[@PillsBuryDoiBoi]

Hey, Scott. Here guys.

[@ErickDarkArts]

2:14 hear me out: jagged compass + pain res + gift of pain + leverage = new meta. Also im almost sure that jagged compass makes gift of pain and floods of rage work on every hook, but i'll test that when i get home from work

[@DoctorDarlingTTV]

I imagine it’s not counted as a scourge hook unhook because it turns it into a scourge hook after the unhook

[@ErickDarkArts]

@@DoctorDarlingTTV I just tested it rn. it does count during the unhook. i saw the auras of the floods of rage during the unhook of a non scourge hook LMAO best perk ever

[@armygamelover]

Being able to see the anti-camp bar removes the most important use of Kindred: being able to know if the killer is face camping

[@Definitelydusky]

I tried No Quarter with Nurses, sloppy, and Coulrophobia and it’s pretty strong. All the Self Care players were malding in the end game chat.

[@mistersir2992]

Running self care in 2024 is absolutely crazy on its own.

[@seeko9323]

doesn’t sloppy not even work with her or did they change it

[@mistersir2992]

@@seeko9323 Last I recall, Sloppy only works on basic attacks. Attacks from nurse blinks do not count as basic attacks. They changed this a while ago so I believe you are correct.

[@dr.fiction7]

​@@seeko9323 Lol he wasn't playing Nurse, he just had her perk.

[@whoudini7935]

I think jagged compass is PERFECT with pain res since it creates scourge hooks but is also telling you which gen pain res has just hit so pain res basically has an extra effect like it was when it first came out. I think both together will be the choice on some killers.

[@NewSirenSong]

It will probably be adjusted post ptb to only treat it as a scourge hook after the fact so as to not power creep agitation

[@xenomorphgirI]

you can already get this exact same effect by using surviellance

[@whoudini7935]

@@xenomorphgirI This is much better. Pain res +surv is only on 1st hooks and this works on every scourge hook; even if you used your all your pain res you still get the info whethers surveillance wont do that unless pain res hits a gen (so after 4 uses your surveillance is basically useless). The perk makes new scourge hooks too so you get both effects considerably more consistently. Unless you run ruin as well, this perk is much better in the combo than surveillance.

[@whoudini7935]

@@NewSirenSong I don't think it power creeps agi per say. Agi still has the value of your hooking being much faster plus some TR synergy and most importantly it lets you strategically hook in key spots you want to defend even if you have 0 hooking perks. Since as a killer hooking in strategic locations is important and this perk is the best perk in the entire game for doing that. I don't know what you mean by "after the fact" though? I think if you remove this scourge hook creation then the perk is too weak, assuming thats what you mean?

[@frauzockinsky]

20:20 I would assume "affected survivors" means only those, that are within the 8 meter radius. so it's not that useful to avoid it, but it defenitely helps a lot in finding the item so you can then move it out of the way. which will now make you oblivious for a time so thats a bit of compensation for the killers.

[@DarthRane113]

The change to demos whistle is garbage the issue wasnt not having rnough portals it was information for when people are getting rid of your portals

[@wrent291]

Shoulder the burden will make the "Get down mr president" meme even funnier, in theory you can give 1 survivor 8 hooks

[@ovoilse]

Rare unique room lighting??? Thank you my Friday has been made!

[@hxpeful_demxn]

The part I’m happiest about in this update is introducing thematic Myers. He might just become fun to play

[@resolutionblaze363]

I woulda liked to see something else done with the Lifeguard Whistle. Maybe whenever a survivor interats with a Portal, you get aura reading on them for 6 second whenever you charge your leap whenever you activate it, so it acts as a method of tracking people if your portals start going down frequently.

[@MrSleepyhead32]

I think Clean Break is good for two scenarios. One where one person is getting hard tunneled. When a survivor is being hard tunneled, you don't want to heal and instead crank gens and this gives a passive timer so when the killer is finished hard tunneling, you'll be healthy without a threat. Another one is in time-sensitive situations where you want to separate from a survivor but still get heals while not being stationary with another survivor. Not an amazing perk, but it will have uses.

[@Namarot]

Currently the activation sound for All-Shaking Thunder can be heard by Survivors globally. So there is no surprise element whatsoever.

[@JonahBoing]

If Shoulder the Burden becomes a problem perk (it probably will), Pyramid Head will see a lot more play because the cages cancel out this perk in it’s entirety on both sides

[@Mercer526]

If shoulder the burden goes live as is, survivors will be getting real cozy with the ground

[@glaive616]

Just don’t tunnel and you won’t even notice it.

[@whorcares123]

​@@glaive616you right, I should just 8 hook every survivor even if they are winning. The perk isn't even anit-tunnel, it is anti-kill the survivor closest to dying.

[@TwoPercentAlmondMilk]

@@whorcares123 This might be a crazy idea but stick with me, maybe don't tunnel AND don't try and 8 hook.

[@sckaze777]

Bro this perk is shit what u on about

[@AlexZeroThree]

@@whorcares123 you are telling me survivor perks help survivors not getting killed? crazy how that works.

[@Epicness560]

What sucks with the invocation is that only one invocation activates at a time. I don't understand why, but it happens.

[@designergoose1938]

Myers needs a full rework but this is a great start

[@infrasound]

Hi Scott! I play solo queue, third perk for surv looks good, but in principle someone being tunneled out and the other 3 SWF already choosing to not help them means this won't be used very often.

[@vladspellbinder]

As someone who enjoys playing Scratched Mirror Myers the change to the T one movement speed is much appreciated. Though I'm not so sure on the change from ten to twenty Evil Within, maybe fifteen? I just like fully draining people if I'm not running a Mirror is all. I am fully on board with the distance changes though, totally right in that it made no sense how they had it. I wrote the above before the add-ons where shown. Sad trombone sound for the new addition to Scratched Mirror. Why devs? WHY?! I AM happy they reverted the "need to be injured" bit from Pharmacy though.

[@smokerthewhite]

you look good in this video scott, hope you've been getting good sleep. as another comment pointed out, the demo add-ons were not adjustments based on the placing and teleport speeds, they are all nerfs to sealing time speed! probably trying to kill the totem playstyle on him

[@worm11112]

invocations need different downsides and casting times per its effect just like exhaustion perks having different exhaustion periods

[@iancraig5415]

No quarter sounds like fun on full TR coulro doctor

[@AceHuman]

I haven't been playing for a year, as a Myers main djd we FINALLY get some basekit buffs. Hope this is very noticeable

[@RicoStew]

guess im getting the myers 4k achievement before this patch goes live

[@demopls6250]

Deliverance won’t work with shoulder the burden since you’ll go into second stage

[@llyukll]

You can use both. Deli requires you to have not been hooked. Using it means you're on 1st hook which is not death hook, so you can still use shoulder the burden.

[@Doomguy82984]

@@llyukll incorrect. Using shoulder of burden puts you at hook stage 1. Then when the killer downs you and hooks you you'll now be on hook stage 2. Deli is impossible to use after using shoulder the burden.

[@Kybo9000]

@@Doomguy82984 what you're saying is true, though llyukll is saying you use deliverance first and then shoulder the burden second which is possible so im not sure why they are incorrect?

[@owenwalker1774]

I am giving a sigh of relief. I love playing tombstone myers and i was worried they were going to scrap it. Nerfing it while buffing him overall is fair enough.😊

[@alecobrien8475]

shoulder the burden is gonna be oppressive for anyone but the top killers

[@strangereligion4373]

Low-key I think it would be a better invocation affect to take a hookstate and make the crow thing a regular perk but only for the survivor running it

[@sen6516]

Thunder + Coup + Tier 3 Myers super lunge let's go

[@knatspray]

I’m glad we got compass when there aren’t that many scourges in the game, that way they can balance future ones around it’s awesome effect

[@y_conflict2930]

Clean break might be decent with vigil. Vigil should knock off 18 seconds bringing down the timer from 60 seconds to 42 seconds.

[@TheLordXylum]

Can't use Deliverance with Shoulder the Burden, because at minimum you're giving up your first hook stage.

[@euphoricbread]

Deliverance when you transfer a hook state to yourself would not be a good idea... The only way to really know how shoulder the burden will play out is to see it on live servers, however the killer can just tunnel the survivor that unhooked if they are close enough

[@wildtacocat]

You should do a test if Coup de grace, and All shaking thunder with wraith uncloak burst and see if you can do a full lunge around a pallet maybe even include like pwf

[@OscarThePenguin55]

Hey Scott you’re the GOAT you’re the only person that gives clean concise information on updates and changes including your own thoughts! You matter

[@declan_dimitrescu6285]

So what im hearing is for the new shoulders of Burden perk Perma Forced Penence to completwly Nulify Ds/Dh/Adrenaline/OTC ect....

[@shainshahini368]

Idk why I read that as a buff to scratched mirror originally

[@william4996]

I wish they would give Myers an addon that drops him to Tier 1 when Tier 3 is out. I've always wanted to be able to go back to super stealth mode.

[@8wayfunz]

Oh wait the invocation is for killer aura? The wording makes it sound like you see the survivors aura I was so confused on what they were going for

[@ELJuicyBacon]

Pharmacy guarantees a medkit for every chest now. Not just the 1st

[@shyguy140]

Rip devourgorgan

[@vovablood]

Scott completely misunderstood the infinite tombstone build changes He said it gets eliviated significantly by survivors having more stalk in them. That is just not true You get 20 extra from infinite addon 20 extra from tombstone And 5+3 base. This means you need to fully stalk from 0 to 100 2 different survivors and then go and stalk someone else for half. That will take at least a full minute of pure stalking at the full distance (which is like 50 meters) assuming survivors dont do anything about it

[@MurphysLawGaming-yg6bk]

So baffled there was no nerf to Medusa's Hair

[@Doncroft1]

If survivors are going to start trading hook states, it's time to add hook states to the killer's HUD.

[@lifeisstrangelover-t8l]

You do see them when the perk is used, which I think is fair

[@Doncroft1]

@lifeisstrangelover-t8l All the hook states?

[@lifeisstrangelover-t8l]

@@Doncroft1 no ofc not, that would be dumb

[@Doncroft1]

@lifeisstrangelover-t8l Why not? Survivors get to see both their and the killer's objective progress. Killer should be able to do the same. Unless, of course, you want killers to be able to switch finished gens with incomplete gens. That'd also be fair compensation. 😁

[@lifeisstrangelover-t8l]

@@Doncroft1 your just spouting nonsense at this point lmao

[@dawsonrudis4642]

Gosh we need like 2 more invocation perks and it’s going to be meta to just check basement first

[@miklymick5]

2:35 doctor impossible skill check has another victim to torment.

[@Magnetar_Haunt]

The Invocation: Does this get kind of fucked over by the survivor scaring the crows? They'll most likely be leading the chase, so they would hit most crows on the path first. Do we just have to be more careful around crows? Will this make Calm Spirit a lot better?

[@RaffoPhantom]

About Myers: I think scratched mirror DID need that added nerf. Imagine running around an indoor map (which is where you would send yourself to anyway) and there is a 110% mad man with wallhacks running around. That shit is genuinely horrifying. About the other add-on nerfs: For regular gameplay I think this is a welcome change for sure. I am a bit concerned about the Evil Incarnate achievement though. You gain stalk from afar easier but you also need a lot more. I guess time will tell if this is more of a buff than a nerf but it kind of feels like a hard nerf. And the achievement is still bullshit imo but what can you do.

[@gabrote42]

1:09 I wanna see a Spirit do this with the long lunge add-ons 17:59 We got a Michael buff before GTA6 23:01 BHVR W

[@JNightfiery]

Lifeguard whistle was 100% changed to nerf devour demo

[@gaj7062]

Shoulder the burden will probably be banned from all comp matches. I think it could be fun to watch against a really good nurse or blight tho because it somewhat eliminates hard tunneling especially if the team is coordinated

[@christian_lied]

Myers now being faster in tier one! Then seeing scratched mirror slows him down :0

[@tmoney1487]

They just need to make it so you can use any invocation perks all at once, cause if you use the new one with weaving spiders you gotta spend 120 seconds in basement to get both effects, and if the killer is paying attention they can just B-line it to basement as soon as you become broken so you arent going to get the second perk off anyway. It would be cool to have a full invocation build like you do boon builds but the downsides right now are just too much for not enough payoff. By the time you find and get to basement and do the invocations then leave and get on gens, you probably couldve done 3 gens solo. Of course invocation perks would have to be balanced around that fact, and maybe behavior would rather then have strong effects but not able to be completed all at once rather than have weaker effects but be able to completed all at once.

[@Guvato]

When did the camera quality get so good? Damn.

[@mystoc3995]

clean break lets you heal while doing gens with another survivor its a decent perk and gets better the more anti heal the killer has, its a bit like adrenaline in my eyes it lets you ignore healing and let it happen slower but automatically and focus on gens. lastly the requirement to activate it is something you will do naturally too heal another survivor it doesn't send you on side quests cleanse a totem or open 2 chests.

[@xCythex]

Everytime I think BHVR will finally show a little love to us Jumpscare Myers enjoyers....they then make me sad immediately after.

[@The_Permit_Crab]

I dont think that the question of is Treacherous Crows should be "is it worth spending a minute + broken for" but whether that AND Weaving Spiders is worth spending a minute + broken for. Ever since Weaving Spiders i've been under the impression that Invocations will only start to be good when you stack them

[@redwoodrussell3472]

Shoulder the burden and Hardened are about to be my two new favorite perks

[@Angel_Flash]

scratched mirror needs to stay at that slow ass speed because infinite undetectable is absurdly annoying to go against

[@ohdee8570]

My fear for the new invocation is that if you have a Sable running her invocation and a Taurie running hers, if invocation pops, do both of them become broken for the rest of the match? That feels like a forfeit to me lmfao

[@Bullwark_of_the_Week]

Demogorgon addon changes Yay! Time to continue running Black Heart & Barbs Glasses.

[@vexxed6851]

Using Deliverance with Shoulder to Burden? I don't think you've read that perk description correctly.

[@Kinkylime]

You seem to be in good health Mr. Jund!

[@itsgot8legs]

Reassure + Shoulder the burden is gonna be so strong I feel

[@hayden5297]

Bhvr finally gave us a perk that allows us to be Unburdened by What Has Been ™️, that's all I've ever wanted. And the timing is immaculate!

[@TwinTails99]

Cool they added shoulder the burden cant wait to add it to the ever increasing list of perks no one will use because most of the game is solo queue and I am not giving up a hook state for some random.

[@ryudomaikashi]

On the new map did you see the elevators full of bodies event on the outside of the map near killer shack?

[@danowen79]

I don’t think anyone in solo queue is trading hook states with strangers, and swf’s won’t likely need it as often. It’s also a perk that useless if you’re the one getting tunnelled etc. Fun idea, but IMO it changes the natural flow of a game too much. Same with all the invocation perks - who wants to be one hit down-able most of a game? They need to nerf you a better way, maybe with less running speed so you’re 95% or something.

[@adriii3737]

I think no quarter is to prevent a medkit with 2 self heals as those skillchecks I asume has no "great skillcheck" zone