All of the Switch Grips There Is to Offer in Bowling

BowlersMart Rockford-Cherry Shop Manager, Andrew Jensen, and Part-Timer, Justin Mooney discuss all of the available interchangeable thumb systems on the market.
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[@jenbishop9238]

Thank you for this! I'm DEFINITELY at a place where I feel like I need them. Got 3 different balls, and the tiny differences in the thumb hole just makes me crazy. Hard to make a decision, lol.

[@michaelfinley9988]

I had both Vise IT and Turbo and broke several thumbs with both and both felt somewhat loose feeling. Out of frustration I had my PSO order some JoPo thumb system and absolutely love them. They are robust with a solid feel. Only drawback for me, is I have to use a removal tool to change inserts as the click is so pronounced it is very difficult to remove with only my thumb. But they are solid and highly doubt these will break.

[@nevinkinzel]

Another thing I like about switchable thumbs is that my thumb swells while I bowl (more in summer than winter) and I can't get it out of the ball. Instead of playing with tape, I can switch out the thumb and still have a thumb that's drilled for me and be able to move it ball to ball.

[@jacobwhite7845]

I’ve used 3 of the 4. This is my personal experience IT: never used. Turbo: decent system. Used this the longest, but the tabs in the bottom are prone to wearing out or breaking over time, which is what causes them to stop locking in. This is what made me switch away from this system. Ultimate: uses a locking system on the side. I like this idea better than turbo as it is less prone to failure. The slugs felt less secure and would actually slide up and down by a couple millimeters while in multiple balls. Not sure if this is the tolerances in the moulds, but I did not keep this system long as I did not like the feel. It just felt cheap to me. Jopo: hands down the best system I have used. Uses a threaded system with 3 locking tabs in the bottom. The threaded system will hold the pressure of throwing the ball a lot better as it is much more surface area. The locking tabs are more sturdy than turbo. It is so secure that it feels just like having a standard slug in the ball, which i never had in the other two systems. I see no reason to even glance at any other system after trying this

[@matthewstoker224]

Regarding those Turbo tabs wearing away, are you talking about the bottom of the rail in the outer sleeve or the little plastic pieces that stick out of the bottom of the inner/thumb sleeve? I'm assuming you mean the inner sleeve. Those little things don't inspire a world of confidence, but at least getting a new inner and thumb made is much easier and cheaper than drilling out the outer and replacing the whole system. About how often did you have them break? Thanks in advance.

[@jacobwhite7845]

@@matthewstoker224 If I remember correctly, I have had one tab on the inner break off, and have seen it with at least one other person. Over time, they wear down and become more prone to the little tabs getting weak and either wearing down completely or breaking off. The outers have all remained fine. Don’t get me wrong; turbo is a good system. Like you said, you can always just drill a new inner and the problem is solved. I would never tell everyone they need to switch to JoPo because it is the only good system. If someone is looking for a new system I dang sure am telling everyone about it though lol

[@matthewstoker224]

@@jacobwhite7845 Thanks for the heads up. I know many people will put a piece of tape on the side of the inners to tighten them up if they become loose too. If the drillers in my area start offering JoPo I'll definitely be giving it a shot next time around.

[@flippperboy]

Great job. Been curious about Jopo grips. Thank you

[@BassRacerx]

Ive been using the Jopo and I really like it. the black color comes off on my finger some times idk if that's a defect or if other people have that issue. i'll have pro shop sand it again next time I see him.

[@brandoc1958]

Do you recommend a tool to take out the Jo Po system? Mine seems to be very hard to take out at times.

[@bigboots6114]

if the vise breaks inside your ball is dead until you get it removed from the thumb

[@kenrathbone3265]

I use the Universal and on 3 or four occasions the thumb slug has slipped out far enough to make impossible to release the ball. Does this also occur with other inserts? In that particular ball I put so much glue in it that it is now a permanent thumb. Back to using tape.

[@donaldcook6997]

how does this tranlate as haveing thum pitch. . under palm,away from palm,little left or little right...looks like straight in with no pitch...

[@Denali_Rebel]

Ive only been at a pro shop that can duplicate a ball once. Ive moved between 8 states in different parts of the country and struggle to find a competent pro shop. A consistent thumb would be nice

[@lonestarpatriot876]

The JoPo's are superior to Vice, Ultimate, and Turbo. I had problems with all 3 and switched to JoPo and never looked back.

[@daryldettmer9160]

I really like the Vise Grip IT but i heard the JoPo are really good too

[@TheVlad1616]

JoPros are great. I had an issue with 1 ball years ago when they were fairly new. Ever since they tweaked the mold a bit, zero issues.

[@stormb28]

Very helpful

[@reisthpm662]

I have a question, is there a switch grip for only the fingers?

[@patpatterson1962]

Yes

[@reisthpm662]

@@patpatterson1962 what is it called? Cause I’m finding one as I’m a 2 hander

[@brianmizway9324]

What's the purpose of these thumb grips. I've never needed a thumb grip over the years.

[@nevinkinzel]

Do you throw multiple balls? Do you bowl any spring or summer leagues? I like being able to switch the thumb when mine swells instead of playing with tape.

[@brianmizway9324]

@Nevin Kinzel hmmm. Interesting. Never thought about it like that. If my thumb is slippery I just use some rosin, or if it swells I use baby powder to help make it slide out easier. Never thought of it this way. So do you use different size thumb inserts then for this? Yes I always bowl with atleast 2 balls. Going to get a couple more soon.

[@nevinkinzel]

@@brianmizway9324 Yeah, I have two inserts. One is my normal thumb size and one is my swelled size. My thumb doesn't swell enough in the winter to matter, but since it has been warming up again I really notice it. Even baby powder or "shrinking" my thumb by wrapping it with a napkin and putting it in the ball doesn't work for me. So, I switch out the insert for the larger size and I don't have to worry about it.

[@brianmizway9324]

@Nevin Kinzel thanks again for the idea. I just thought people did it for the heck of it. This is the first perspective where I can see this makes sense. Thank you.

[@patpatterson1962]

Is GRIP-LOC not a thing anymore?

[@remoevans7847]

They were the first and are still around, but don’t have the marketing like Turbo, Vise, Jo-Po and now Ultimate. Grip-Loc’s are much easier/quicker to install than any of the others as well.

[@photobombchamp]

LOVE my JoPo’s

[@bryanhallman8183]

When I lived in Illinois, the Cherry Vale mall area always had a lot of traffic. Watching the PWBA event there last year brought back a ton of memories.

[@hwkfan7896]

Turbo sucks. Mine fell out last week and this week. The locks wear out and chip and no longer lock into place. Complete garbage, RUN AWAY

[@peterthebowler]

I had to drop to 14 lbs, and went JoPo. I had IT before, no issues ever but I liked JoPos secure design.