ALL the details on Apple's M1 Max chip

During the October 2021 Apple event, the company unveiled its new M1 Pro chip. Apple says the M1 Pro is up to 70% faster than its predecessor.

[@vineetkumarbharti2633]

Don't get hyped up, your school's pc still keep running on core 2 duo

[@VUnhac]

Dude just killed the whole PC market 😅

[@TurboPhicker23]

No

[@revanvonheaven8270]

Where is your USB 3.o and 2.0 hahahaha or do you need to buy a special extendor for that where is your Nvme hahahahahha sodder in just like the Ram where close to the CPU wow you are on another level of making practical things more complicated then they should be..

[@subareeshkrishnan118]

RIP Intel and AMD

[@boovproductions8515]

the final nail in the coffin

[@evacody1249]

No

[@1oh169]

@UC61CmP3NUveve2Q6uZFnd8A they demand that price because it's faster than anything in that price point let alone that performance in a portable laptop.

[@vanhelsing4927]

Yeah i really looove playing tripple AAA game in $2.500 Apple "Laptop". Hey maybe M1 chips going to the next gen Playstation and Xbox!, keep dreaming dude 🥱

[@1oh169]

@@vanhelsing4927 wow are you just ignorant? Have you watched today's keynote?

[@hshhsjhahsvs7728]

This video dropped faster than the performance of all M1 chips combined

[@boovproductions8515]

ikr XD

[@hshhsjhahsvs7728]

@@boovproductions8515 lmao yep!

[@P4boot]

😆 so true

[@truthseeker6804]

apple sent update for my m1, im going to do several test before and after the update, incase they slowed it down.

[@hshhsjhahsvs7728]

@@truthseeker6804 that's wise. May the force be with you🤛

[@erikengheim1106]

My 6 year old Mac actually runs just fine today for what I do. For me Macs are about the user experience. Stuff just works, polished applications, lack of hassle etc. However I still think this a BIG step for Apple for the simple reason that there has for years been so many users obsessed with specifications. They have always gone "Well your Mac has 30% lower performance than my PC for the same price, you are being ripped off!!!" Never mind that the PC has worse track pad, worse screen, creaky cheap plastic enclosure. To a lot of people there is an obsession with specs, and this M1 Max, has just buried these people. The PC guys cannot wave specs at Mac guys anymore, because their computers are getting obliterated. Sure... they can start saying that specs don't matter because... "we got the better user experience and design"... but oops the PC doesn't have that either now. What you get is lower performance and worse user experience. The next high end Mini and iMac is going to blow the huge PC gaming rigs out of the water. If only Apple could give the gaming market a bit more love.

[@Cat-kp7rl]

I used to be one of those guys… :/ it wasn’t until my friend gave me his old 2012 iMac, last year. Technically the iMac was a shrimp 🍤 compared to my gaming PC in specs. BUT I noticed I was gravitating towards using the iMac for everyday-use/school/work. Basically for anything that wasn’t gaming. It changed the way I worked, and allowed me to be more productive. I couldn’t believe it. The iMac even had a basic HDD!! (not the combo flash/disk one) I quickly figured out why the iMac and all other Apple devices performed so consistently. I needed a Mac in the first place bc I accidentally signed up for a Swift programming class… well it turns out that Apple has a bunch of wizards working in their software development teams. The code that supports the Apple ecosystem is solid, and even more polished than the devices it runs on.

[@RazgovorIsDialog]

To be frank, these are absolutely monstrous soc's, and deliver even more impressive performance to boot. All the while, having a feature no laptop or desktop has. HUMA(Heterogeneous Uniform Memory Access)brought in by their unified memory architecture, similar to a games console, giving both the cpu & gpu access to a uniform memory pool with the same memory bandwidth and allowing them to use it at the same time, rather than having a split memory architecture like a pc laptop which doesn't have HUMA and can only provide a fraction of the performance it should theoretically offer. These M1 chips do more than that and have headroom for so much more while requiring a fraction of the power and the result is higher battery efficiency which translates to more hours of continuous use. What Apple needs to do now is provide devkits with these soc's to game devs and bring games back to mac and these macs will have everything alongside the complete experience that a mac provides. It's bound to happen at one point, just like the migration to Apple silicon which began like a year ago.

[@erikengheim1106]

@@Cat-kp7rl Nice sharing. It is always quite interesting how people end up on the Mac. It tends to be a bit random in my experience. I know e.g. women who bought it because they thought the design was nice, but then it was the user experience which made them stay. I basically ended with Mac about 20 years ago because of Mac OS X. I was a Linux user and loved Unix stuff but tired of configuring stuff and all the hassle. I started reading about NeXT back then and it seemed like the ultimate Unix system. I really loved Objective-C and how they build applications. Nothing was really like that back then. When I learned Mac OS X was going to be derived from NeXT, I decided I had to try Mac. That was the start of my journey. My first Mac was a G4 Cube and that just blew me away. I had never experienced anything like it on PC before. Back then PC were super ugly noisy beige boxes. This thing was a like a work of art and so quiet I thought it was broken when I powered it on. Mac OS X then had many issues. Apps launched really slowly, but the graphics was just so smooth compared to Windows and the composititioning of windows with shadows and transparencies was so smooth and beautiful that Windows really felt like it belonged to another time era. Today differences seem smaller, but then again all the downsides of Mac that existed back then are gone. The machines are much faster now and you are a first class citizens. Back then I always struggled getting hardware to work that was not made for Mac. Getting on networks as tech support, software etc was Windows oriented.

[@ryanwood9288]

Damn you’re quick.

[@Hawtload]

so how's the gaming performance when running bootcamp?

[@BobBrown.]

I don’t think it supports boot camp at all bud

[@XalphYT]

Yeah, I would happily run Windows on Apple hardware, but that's just not possible anymore.

[@moizkhozema5253]

Will it be able to run windows through boot camp?

[@jakesherstone865]

No probably not, but yo can use windows 11 on arm through parallels.

[@boovproductions8515]

Macs Are actually kinda starting to get good for gaming

[@evacody1249]

No

[@susanolistar7193]

You still don't get it, do you

[@rayn.2688]

@@evacody1249 no what? You said nothing

[@Internatube]

Yes. Ryzen AMD uses arm processor now. This is the same thing

[@evacody1249]

@Finder you really think all the game developers are just going to switch support to metal and drop Playstation, Xbox, Nintendo, and PC? What are you smoking?

[@Psikotrexex]

Im just waiting the time which will come in the future that we can play pc games on the macbooks.

[@SoyDelSouth]

Is the GPU comparable to a 3080 TI?

[@KR-xn8xr]

Yes according to Luke Miani it is and that is crazy lol they smashing intel amd and Nvidia

[@evacody1249]

Nope

[@evacody1249]

@@KR-xn8xr nope

[@masonharper4610]

Are you being serious?

[@aaryamayya]

It's already dead 🤣

[@lduan68]

Better and better :3

[@Gadgetmawombo]

Makes me wish you could actually game on these! Mac gaming just inst really a thing yet. But for professionals this is amazing!

[@miodiofoo]

uh bro, u can with parallels running windows arm

[@Gadgetmawombo]

@@miodiofoo And it doesn't run anywhere near as good. It's emulated, you lose massive performance and its super inefficient.

[@thg2123]

Great product

[@danvango]

not corrove proof. start the crystal storage please

[@ellonyoung6894]

Apple should develop battery by itself.haha

[@fuksoup]

If what is being said is true, this is absolutely impressive. It’s hard to deny how good apple silicon is for being so new.

[@kolt5511]

They already have experience with A series chips on the iPhone.

[@fuksoup]

@@kolt5511 correct, but they’re very new to computer chips. A lot more goes into the R&D of them

[@kolt5511]

@@fuksoup that’s true but these chips use the same architecture as their phone chips which is ARM and in the end these are the same as the chips in the iPhone but larger and much more powerful.

[@fuksoup]

@@kolt5511 much more powerful is an understatement

[@a740g]

But can It run Crysis?

[@SuiteLife]

Solid proof aliens exist. No human being could ever invent this thing. What. A. Beast. 🤯

[@calpolypom]

2000 bucks!!! Wow... Guess its not for most people i guess..

[@Lol-rv5bv]

yeah these computers are more for the “pro, productivity users” or do intensive editing for regular people, that’s what the regular 13 inch M1 macbook air or pro from 2020 is for

[@townhousetownhouse1990]

What will an M2 look like in 2022 or 2023, compared to Intel chips???

[@zhammunta1091]

rumor have it that it will be 3nm chips which is god level

[@terrywangusc]

2023: Who’s Intel?

[@zhammunta1091]

@@CallumDuff intel is very far behind in the game the already left behind by tsmc and Samsung lol 😂

[@christianyobel117]

@@CallumDuff lol, i was about to say that

[@nahudhmohamed9775]

I thought m1 max is m2

[@sirpfa]

Can some one tell me how many GB is this 32-core GPU?

[@sciarkadatul411]

the ram & gpu memory are shared like the amd apu's and gaming console cpu. Basically the ram acts as both the memory for the gpu and cpu.

[@sirpfa]

@@sciarkadatul411 1. And now this will be classified as dedicated GPU or not? 2. What does APU stands for?

[@sciarkadatul411]

@@sirpfa1. No, a dedicated gpu is when the cpu and gpu are seperated, sense the gpu and cpu are combined into a one package, m1 chip can't be classified as such. 2. Apu,(Accelerated Processing Unit) is the term that Amd use for this kind of tech, where the cpu and gpu are combined into one chip and the memory is shared. Amd pioneer this kind of tech

[@sirpfa]

@@sciarkadatul411 interesting… and how is the performance of such AMD’s so far in comparison to the rest of the AMD’s?

[@voltgaming2213]

@@sirpfa 64 gb unified

[@jdeep7]

no mac mini upgrade

[@VDJ4500]

Sadly… 🤕

[@giftbox-e]

14.2 inch Pro max chip with 32 cores would be perfect for 3D and video rendering on the go!!!!

[@evacody1249]

32 core gpu of what?

[@medicgaming2705]

@@evacody1249 well it's 2.9x faster than the radeon pro rx 5600m with 8gb vram, so probably enough lmao

[@evacody1249]

@@medicgaming2705 so it's still behind got it.

[@medicgaming2705]

@@evacody1249 very cool

[@star.watchersteven3255]

I believe for the average person's used it would be more than what they need but in the business aspects and things excellent

[@gauravk_in]

A more powerful processor reduces power utilization, it does more in less time and sleeps the rest of the time. This is also why 4g and 5g networks are better than 3g, not because we need that high network speed, but if we can download more data in less time, it saves power.

[@Lol-rv5bv]

The regular m1 is already more than enough for everyday people so those are for them, the m1 pro and m1 max are for the power users

[@DanielEhlmann]

Considering what an M1 MacBook Pro was able to do with gaming… while emulating X64 processors AND THEN running Windows inside MacOS on top of that… I’m pretty excited.

[@masonharper4610]

I don't think most people would use this for gaming.

[@Blueraazor]

@@masonharper4610 I am, just purchased the max 16inch. Play some Elder Scrolls Online while I get work done and the sometimes gaming on Parallels.

[@evacody1249]

@@Blueraazor 🤦‍♂️🤣😂 The game will not be supported on M1 chips. Zenmax made that very clear. The Intel Macs will get support. But M1 Macs they are not going to go out of there way to make the game work with there M1 chips.

[@Blueraazor]

@@evacody1249 I'm playing it right now homie, just fine. M1 mini 16gb of Ram the native client, plays just fine on Crossover as well... sooo, my main MMO also plays just fine FFXI

[@sweeseen9577]

omg … i guess it is more powerful than my rtx 3080 ti

[@DanielRTX]

But Can It Run Crysis?

[@kihbjcjdjd7022]

Yes

[@shubhamkumar-vx4ld]

🍎is awesome

[@juleslieu3485]

Rip Intel

[@thetechnerd7467]

Apple destroying the competition

[@amo_res9266]

Next time, apple might release a gaming device, probably 5x more powerful than Ps5 lmao

[@speedtest8166]

I can launch rockets

[@DaPopeOfDope101]

I love everything except TAKING AWAY THE TOUCHBAR, WHY???

[@XalphYT]

Because it suuuuuuuuucked.

[@saricubra2867]

x86 AMD and Intel? It should be called Bulldozer version 2.0 .

[@jojag5]

Feel bad for anyone who bought an M1 MBP. Instantly obsolete.

[@germplus]

Love my M1 because of touchbar 😎

[@Blueraazor]

Why? Drastically cheaper

[@seeyah2221]

But the new 💻 base model cost $2000.

[@Mionwang]

May the high end PC market rest in peace.

[@evacody1249]

🤦‍♂️

[@Mionwang]

@cas curse I'm a windows user and have been since as long as i can remember. In fact i don't even own a single Apple device. But, assuming Apple isn't flat-out lying, this kind of performance per watt is unlike anything that has ever existed. The only people who will still be buying high end windows laptops are gamers, people who can't afford MacBooks and people who really *need* windows. PS. The "most powerful laptop we could find" was an MSI laptop that's like 2 inches thick and has an RTX 3080. According to apple, the M1 max is only about 10% slower than that while consuming 40% less power. And don't forget, the GPU in the M1 also share the same memory as the rest of the system which means the MacBook essentially has a 64gig GPU. I really don't think anyone in the right mind would buy a windows laptop if they can afford any of the the decently equipped MacBook pros.

[@RazgovorIsDialog]

@cas curse That's because a lot of people don't understand that the Uniform Memory Architecture in these Arm/Apple silicon chips is a very big deal. You can throw all the memory bandwidth you want at a laptop that has a split memory architecture and it'll never use it all, let alone efficiently. That's because current windows laptops as we know it, do not have a unified memory architecture, which means they'll never use the full bandwidth in an efficient manner. A big advantage of an soc with unified memory architecture like the M1 is its super low latency (as the whole cluster of ram is visible and accessible to both cpu & gpu) and latency critical applications will benefit tremendously because of it and apps optimised for that kind of architecture will use less power and less ram to achieve the same result faster. Laptops use more than 100W of power with gpus like a 3080 and i9's. These M1's have most applications now optimised for their memory architecture and just that architecture in general but they also consume like what? 30, maybe 35W. Which is unheard of in the windows laptop space, especially laptops in the same power range as the one Apple tested. When the naysayers finally understand why these apple silicon chips are in the spotlight, they might actually stop with the ignorant statements. The M1 was a marvel, these bigger siblings will continue where it left off.

[@RazgovorIsDialog]

@cas curse Ok boomer!!!

[@Mionwang]

@cas curse .

[@leisuretalks]

Even after 100 years windows laptops will never provide great performance with Amazing battery life like m1 Macs. Even 2010 macbook pro used to have 7 hours of battery life. 90 % windows laptops at present offer less than 6 hours battery including the costliest gaming laptop. Such a shame for windows laptops. 😂

[@michaelborneman971]

I have an m1 macbook air and a 2018 surface laptop2 and the battery life is pretty close.

[@christianyobel117]

Sorry to disappoint you man, but if you look outside of full gaming laptop, lots of Windows have more than 10hr of battery life. More than half of laptop released are these type of laptop, i.e business laptops, media & entertainment, even compact gaming. Full gaming laptops deliberately choose less battery life because in its usage, we're supposed to always have it plugged in and not carry it around. I think Apple right now have a huge lead over other in price to performance ratio but we can still look at a product objectively and not disparage the competitor just because we support the product we choose.

[@goufackkentsaleandrinlebel8826]

@@michaelborneman971 you are lying. I owned a surface laptop 2 and it doesn't even come close to the m1 MacBook Air

[@michaelborneman971]

@@goufackkentsaleandrinlebel8826 I am not lying. I get about 11 hours of web browsing, ms office, Remote Desktop out of either one of them.

[@goufackkentsaleandrinlebel8826]

@Michael Borneman if I m just web browsing plus watching KZbin I can easily get a full day with the M1. That wasn’t possible with my surface laptop 2. I would get like 4 to 6 hours (especially when I was watching a lot KZbin)