Let me know below if you think the title should be automatically acquired by the eldest daughter of the monarch (which might mean more than one Princess Royal at once), or if you like the idea that it can only be acquired when a royal parent bestows it. Remember you can also find me at: BUY MY BOOK (Find Your Irish Ancestors Online): amzn.to/3Z2ChnG Website (with 2 FREE DOWNLOADS): www.historycallingofficial.com/ Patreon: www.patreon.com/historycalling Amazon storefront: www.amazon.com/shop/historycalling Instagram: instagram.com/historycalling/ Correction: Princess Louise was George V's sister.
@dianeaiken34352 күн бұрын
Princess Charlotte has already been selected by Princess Anne to take her place after death.
@blueblack35912 күн бұрын
I think it is an utterly unimportant title
@theconqueringram52952 күн бұрын
I think it would be best if a parent bestows it, to avoid making more than on Princesses Royal.
@edithengel22842 күн бұрын
@@dianeaiken3435 Anne has nothing to do with the selection, and as HC has pointed out, there actually is at present no other princess who could be Princess Royal.
@Jimbo231072 күн бұрын
It's just fine the way it is
@jldisme3 күн бұрын
Princess Anne is one of my favorite members of The Firm. Her no-nonsense attitude, her incredible work ethic and her way of reusing outfits makes her so unique and invaluable to the slimmed down monarchy. And the "Not bloody likely" answer during the attempted kidnapping is priceless.
@HistoryCalling3 күн бұрын
Yes, I think she's great too. Her popularity is well deserved.
@esta86512 күн бұрын
@@HistoryCallingshe doesn’t do anything.
@williamrobinson74352 күн бұрын
I'd forgotten about that famous reply. Thanks for the reminder! 👍
@jldisme2 күн бұрын
@@williamrobinson7435 You're welcome!
@jldisme2 күн бұрын
@@HistoryCalling She's a legend.
@jldisme3 күн бұрын
I already knew about the Princess Royal title, but I greatly enjoyed the way you presented the history of the Princesses Royal with examples of how the title was granted, not granted and why.
@HistoryCalling3 күн бұрын
Thank you. I've been to do this video for absolutely ages, so it's nice to finally get it ticked off my list.
@Whookieee2 күн бұрын
I love the sarcasm and little laugh at the end! Your videos are always so fascinating!
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you very much :-)
@elisabethhopson56392 күн бұрын
Very interesting. I hadn't realised that Princess Anne had to wait so long for the title, but my goodness, the next holder of this title has a lot to live up to. Her workload is huge and her dedication and laserlike focus are the stuff of legend. Charlotte will need to be made of the same stuff as Anne and prepared to work just as hard as George (or even harder). It is a good model though, brother and sister working for the country. Continuity is the key. Thanks HC. 😀👑
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Yes, hopefully Charlotte (and Louis) will be great assets to George. I just hope their relationship doesn't go the way of Princes William and Harry as I find that situation to be very sad above all else.
@LKMNOPКүн бұрын
Did you know that Charlotte has been in the company of Anne a lot. She's being taught royal protocol amongst other things. Best teacher there is.
@elisabethhopson5639Күн бұрын
@@LKMNOP I did see some photos online. The Princess Royal will be an excellent teacher and auntie! 😊
@helgaborek32902 күн бұрын
Even though I did know how the Princess Royal title works, it was a pleasure to hear about HRH Princess Louise. Even though I'm more of a fan of her sister Maud. I would personally fancy a series of videos on all three of Edward VII's daughters, of course Maud especially (even though I know everything about her), but I'm in general in favour of hearing more about lesser known members of all the royal families (not just British, your video on Don Carlos last week was awesome). A video on the countess Harewood would also be a great watch, especially exploring her relationships with her two elder brothers.
@CrazyCatMom112 күн бұрын
Agree. I would love some videos discussing the lives of lesser-known royals.
@amylin50622 күн бұрын
A video about Prince John, Edward VIII’s youngest brother, would be fascinating, too.
@nicolamarchbank18462 күн бұрын
Ah Haakon and Maud, tough job to take on and did it well. Shame she died a bit before her husband, though she was spared from fleeing from the Nazis and all the stress of the War. The Countess of Harewood had a very active life and would have made a steady queen if it had come down to it. The Lascelles's are the naughty part of the family with illegitimate children and divorces. Weirdly the soap opera Emmerdale also films it's outdoor work on their estate since 2000. Nice little earner for them.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Duly noted. I'm always happy to look at some of the more minor royals (and foreign royals), as long as people watch the videos. :-) Yes, Don Carlos was very interesting for me too.
@sarasamaletdin4574Күн бұрын
Princess Victoria was screwed over by Queen Alexandra at least
@williamrobinson74352 күн бұрын
I believe that the rules in re conference of the title are OK as extant. Our current Princess Anne is a DIAMOND. Most people would agree with this I hope. I'll have to watch this one again, most excellent and fact packed. Thank you so much! ✨🌟👍
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Yeah, I'm a fan of Anne's as well. Hard working and no nonsense - what's not to like?
@En_Marche2 күн бұрын
Another skillfully researched and well-written episode that offers readily-accessible insights to most viewers. Thank you for putting history at our fingertips, Dr. Weston!
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
You're welcome 😊
@ben_1017a2 күн бұрын
I like how it is bestowed. Makes it all the more unique. Another fascinating video HC! Thank you!!
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it :-)
@AmynAL2 күн бұрын
Hello HC…thank you for this video. I did not know this title was not inherited. I learn from each of your videos. I believe the title should be bestowed. As Princess Anne has shown us, she takes her title seriously and is such an asset to the monarchy. Have a great week! 😊
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thanks Amy. Yes, I like it being bestowed too as a kind of reward for a job well done.
@Zando913 күн бұрын
Great overview History Calling! Last year a wrote a long Quora post after someone asked whether Charlotte would become Princess Royal, and I did a short overview of the previous Princesses Royal (not as detailed as yours) and it got over 7k views and 36 likes which I was proud of. Thanks for the great videos, I love your channel ❤
@HistoryCalling3 күн бұрын
That's excellent. Well done and thank you for watching :-)
@elizabethmclean51452 күн бұрын
This is why I love your channel as I recently watched another KZbin channel saying Charlotte had already received the title. I will never believe anyone but you when it comes to royal truth. ❤
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Er, ok. Maybe don't go back to that other channel. I'm rarely this blunt, but the person/people behind it are obviously total morons! Even a quick glance at Wikipedia would have told them that that wasn't the case :-0
@spontaneous_kat16 сағат бұрын
Excellent video! I can tell you really enjoyed it! Your little giggle at the end made me smile
@aprilkneipp60027 сағат бұрын
🌼 Could you pretty please do a video of Princess Margaret of Connaught? I find her so fascinating (and the beautiful Patsy too!) but there is nothing out there on her. Thankyou! 🌼
@mebefore910314 сағат бұрын
Your voice is so soothing to me. As always, another great video. I love how well thought and researched you are.
@perrozoso2 күн бұрын
i love how you pepper in some humor throughout these videos!! the general tone is necessarily more informative which makes your jokes unpredictable and that much funnier😂 “that’s incest for you” 💀
@HistoryCallingКүн бұрын
Thank you. I aim to please :-)
@stephencarrillo59053 күн бұрын
Another entertaining and informative entry, HC. I'm not sure; the whole automatic vs. bestowed aspect is interesting. Do you think Charlotte thinks at all about it at her age? Thanks for this, HC. 🙏🏼
@HistoryCalling3 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for the donation Stephen :-) No, I can't imagine Charlotte gives it much thought yet. She's still so young.
@bevinboulder50392 күн бұрын
Very interesting! These have been so many balderdash articles out there for instance that the Queen had left all her jewels to Charlotte, etc. Thanks for another great video.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Oh I know. The Queen couldn't have even done that if she'd wanted to. A lot of the jewels are crown property.
@marenhumblebee27362 күн бұрын
I have recently become a subscriber, when youtube suddenly suggested your brief video on the documentary regarding 'new evidence about the Princes in the Tower'. At first I thought I wouldn't like your channel, cause you are "just" a disembodied voice... but- you have since become one of my favourite channels!!!! Thank you so much for the great content you put out! I ve also come to really love the dry and matter of fact, but sometimes ironic, or sarcastic tone of your voice!!!! Gosh what a rare treat it is in these times of mostly sickeningly sweet ASMR-esque semi-whispering lullaby voiceovers😅
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you very much and I'm delighted I've made a convert of you, even without showing my face 😊
@marenhumblebee27362 күн бұрын
@HistoryCalling yes such a convert here !!!!! 😍 😄 thx for replying ❤️
@tessinman2 күн бұрын
This was a lot of fun to watch tonight. I just received 2 copies of your new book here in Los Angeles. One for me, and one for my Irish friend. I look forward to learning something interesting.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you so much. I hope it's helpful to you both and that you're staying safe in LA. I've been watching the wildfires in absolute horror.
@tessinmanКүн бұрын
@ Thank you. Los Angeles always pulls together during a crisis. There is strength in our multi cultural population. Also, I very much appreciate all of your hard work.
@DisWldFrk902 күн бұрын
You answered a question I asked in my head right after I asked it! I didn't realize the reason Queen Elizabeth II was never Princess Royal was because somebody already held it all the way until she became Queen. It definitely shows that it is very possible the presumptive Princess Royal may never be. King George did die a lot earlier than many people thought he would, so Queen Elizabeth II probably was expected to become Princess Royal at some point. You never know until it happens! It's possible something could happen and after Anne we won't see it again until George has a daughter, if he ever does.
@janetpendlebury68082 күн бұрын
I think William will give the title to his daughter Charlotte when the time comes. There is no reason for him not to.
@DisWldFrk902 күн бұрын
@janetpendlebury6808 Oh I'm sure, if normal expectations favor, he will give it to Charlotte. This video just shed light on how you never know what's going to happen at the end of the day as opposed to how things look to go. For all we know; something will happen to William where he'll either never be King or he will but his reign won't surpass Princess Anne's life and he won't get the chance to pass it to Charlotte. Wouldn't be expected of course, but it certainly wasn't expected for Queen Elizabeth II to never receive this title either. If her aunt had not outlived her father, she'd likely have got it.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Yes, it is theoretically possible that Charlotte won't get it, but I hope she does as the most likely reason for her not getting it would be something bad happening to her or her father and that doesn't bear thinking about.
@DisWldFrk902 күн бұрын
@HistoryCalling Totally agree! Ideally I'd like William to have a nice, long reign. Give George a chance especially to have some peaceful adult years. I'd hate for him to have the throne on him too early.
@MythStarFireКүн бұрын
Being from the US, I never realized the title had to be bestowed. I love your channel. I have always been fascinated by history. Sadly many of my history teachers made it as boring as possible. Mostly by focusing solely on dates, not what happened or WHY it happened. You focus on the most important part, in my opinion, the people.
@Elora4453 сағат бұрын
That's sad. The most interesting part of history is the why, in my opinion. Sure, all empires gets created and one day fall, but the why to both is most interesting.
@missyme26732 күн бұрын
Hello HC! I thoroughly enjoyed this video frim you, especially the way that you so clearly explained how the title is obtained and I really enjoyed the origins of how the title first came about, I learned something new today! I really admire our current Princess Royal, she's inherited her passion and sense of duty to the crown from her parents and I especially love her no-nonsense attitude and that she does her duty with such grace that most of it goes unnoticed by the media. That's rare in the modern age that we're all in right now with social media playing such a huge role in our day to day lives. I can imagine her growing up as a bit of a tomboy with three brothers! I absolutely adore and admire her! Thank you for answering many questions that I've always had about the title. You went over and beyond my expectations! x 😊🫶🏽🇬🇧✨️
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you so much. I'm glad you enjoyed it and I really like Anne too for all the same reasons. 😊
@mewsli2 күн бұрын
As always an interesting video on a subject little known about , well to me personally . Thanks again .
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
My pleasure 😊
@annmoore66782 күн бұрын
I think the title of Princess Royal should continue to be a unique honor and bestowed on an eldest princess who is old enough to play a distinctive role. And only one at a time. Of course Anne was deserving long before she received the title, but then Charles wasn’t immediately named Prince of Wales either, was he ( although his mother didn’t wait as long in his case)? Whatever the late queen’s reasons were (might Anne herself have been reluctant for some reason?) Charlotte certainly seems to be rising to her future role in the Firm in a remarkable way. She seems to be an “old soul,” unusually poised and wise for her age. I hope she’ll be recognized some day (but not too soon, of course).
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Yes, I love Princess Charlotte. She seems to have a great little personality (they all do in fact). 😊
@leticiagarcia90252 күн бұрын
I enjoyed your video. I’m sure when William is king he will bestow the title of Princess Royal to Charlotte. Thank you for the history lesson.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
You're welcome and I think so too 😊
@KenRichardson-xn9xd2 күн бұрын
I did not know about this title therefore did not think I needed this information but now I’m glad I have it! Well done as always.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you. 😊
@amt726872 күн бұрын
This is a lovely video. I really enjoyed it. As always, superior work.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you very much :-)
@Rainbow_HH13 күн бұрын
Thank you for the new video!❤
@HistoryCalling3 күн бұрын
No problem 😊 Hope you like it :-)
@PomPom-i6s2gКүн бұрын
Yesssss I’m so happy you posted a video
@cherylwood5202Күн бұрын
Very informative. Thank you! I prefer the traditional rule and procedure. Makes the title even more special, I think.
@steviestarfire2 күн бұрын
It’s been very cold (even snowy!) here in Georgia, and now l have a new upload about one of my most favorite titles to enjoy by the fire with my soup. Thank you, HC ❄️❤️
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
You're welcome. Stay warm :-)
@QueneBriarBelleКүн бұрын
Another beautiful and fascinating video! Yours is probably my favorite history channel. Do you think by any chance, you could one day do a video on Queen Juana of Castile (also known as Juana the Mad, but I don't like to call her that)? I'm fascinated by her and would love to hear your take on her history.
@BMW7series2512 күн бұрын
Another really interesting video. Many thanks, regards, John.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it :-)
@kate_cooper2 күн бұрын
Ha! You read my mind *again*! I was thinking about the Princess Royal title earlier today after someone in a chat group mentioned Henrietta Maria and I realised the fact she created the title is the main thing I know about her (other than that she was French). I always liked it as a title, partly because it sounds cool, and partly because it's one of the few female titles that a woman holds in her own right and not from her husband. I don't see that there's any need for it to become an automatic thing rather than something the monarch bestows. But even if it was, I think there should still only be one Princess Royal at a a time, so a girl would only get it automatically on the death of the previous holder.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Ah, Henrietta Maria. I must look at her in more detail at some point too. She was an interesting woman. Yes, I like that it's a title that doesn't come from a guy as well.
@LisafromNOLA2 күн бұрын
I adore your vids HC! I always learn something new. Thank you so much for such quality (and interesting) content ♥️♥️♥️
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
You are so welcome :-)
@kazoolibra73222 күн бұрын
Thank you, HC...as always it was interesting history. I think the monarch should be able to bestow this title at choosing.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
You're welcome. Yes, I like the idea of it being in the monarch's gift as well, rather than just inherited automatically.
@lisaharner37202 күн бұрын
Fascinating video on a topic that I knew nothing about. The way it is currently handled seems fitting and respects each title holder. To assign the title to multiple women at the same time would be disrespectful to all involved. You wouldn’t have two Princes of Wales or monarchs at once, would you? Lovely video, HC!
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Not unless you're a Plantagenet (Henry VI and Edward IV) or a Jacobite and those situations didn't end well :-)
@kaseywashington-y2k6 сағат бұрын
Hi there! New subsciber here! I just discovered the channel today and this is the first video I've seen. To answer the last question about whether or not the title of "Princess Royal" should be automatically granted to the monarch's eldest daughter, I've always considered the title as the female equivalent to that of the "Prince of Wales." As such, I think it should be within the monarch's gift to grant it (or withhold it) as they so choose, just as it's done for the 'PoW' title. Just my two sense. Anyway, I'm already in love with the channel and now I'm off to binge-watch all your videos.❤
@thoughtsofelizabeth2 күн бұрын
As always, and enjoyable video, with good where's waldo. I did go back to watch the last video a few times. I just had to look at the lovely, lovely visuals you always put in. I joke about the where's waldo; and I do watch the video for it, but only after I've watched it once or twice to look at the art and absorb the information. As I say to people who fuss if they found out that another listener uses a history video to sleep to, the channel gets the watch time whether or not I'm sleeping to it. It's usually other people who listen criticize. Thankfully no one has criticized me for enjoying searching for the little history calling water marks but for anyone thinking about it: why care if I'm watching a charming video on an interesting topic 12 or 13 times to try to get in all the visual details?
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you and I'm glad you find the fun in the watermarks and some people complain and actually seem to think I'm trying to watermark 500 year old paintings as my own, instead of watermarking my photos and video. I don't mind you sleeping to the videos at all. As you say, I get the watch time and (unless you have KZbin premium), you're probably not skipping the ads, so more money for me!
@eldelflowerwater2 күн бұрын
Thank you again, HC. I think the rules are ok as they are now. I personally believe there should be one Princess Royal at a time. Warm regards from The Antipodes. Andy🎉
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thanks Andy :-)
@nancyM1313-Boo2 күн бұрын
Wonderful when you do videos in response to comments. ♫♪♫ .... yes, your theme music just played .... I smiled, tapped my feet, happy to listen. Tfs~❄⚘❄
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
I like to when I can, but I just have so much I want to do that it can take me quite a while to get to things. I keep a note of all the good ideas in a book or on my phone though.
@nancyM1313-Boo2 күн бұрын
Every upload is appreciated and Enjoyed. Thanks, have a nice week ahead. Stay warm, we are freezing in New York, USA❄
@LaLayla992 күн бұрын
Great video, as always! 💖
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you :-)
@tykat122 күн бұрын
Lovely video! I've made a little playlist with the other two, its a great listen for driving.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you. Just as long as I don't distract you from the road :-)
@tykat122 күн бұрын
@HistoryCalling haha, that's why it's "reruns". And when traffic is tight or busy, I turn the radio down to "see" better-cant be the only one!!
@catherineball50713 күн бұрын
I think Queen Elizabeth took so long to give the title to Anne out of respect for Princess Mary, who I beleive she was close with, and because Anne herself was not bothered. She doesn't strike me as someone who would long for such a title.
@HistoryCalling3 күн бұрын
Maybe, yes. It did seem a bit odd to me that the delay was so long though.
@catherineball50713 күн бұрын
@@HistoryCalling I think her husband declined a title for himself and they declined titles for their children? They just don't seem like people who want or need titles to me.
@HistoryCalling3 күн бұрын
Yes, they did manage to keep their kids pretty low-key which I'm sure Peter and Zara appreciate.
@cheltbabe2 күн бұрын
Princess Anne is low-key anyway. She could be found in the waiting room at my vets, in her headscarf, waiting her turn like everybody else. I have always adored her for her work ethic and charity work and her no-nonsense approach to life.
@kathrynstemler63312 күн бұрын
Were they close though? The Wikipedia article suggests she did not attend Elizabeth’s wedding because the Duke of Windsor was not invited. And you never see any Harewoods at royal events (while not descendants of royal dukes per se the way the Gloucesters and Kents are, they were/are related in the same way.)
@NayNayNayzyNayza2 күн бұрын
Oh I wholeheartedly join you in the eye-rolling effect that media articles about the royals can produce! My fingers get itchy wanting to correct all the errors in the comments sections. I like the idea of the title being bestowed rather than automatic. Apart from the monarch passing and the heir automatically becoming monarch themselves, I feel like giving time after someone's passing is much more respectful.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Yes, I agree that there is something to be said for having a respectful little wait before bestowing someone's title on the next person.
@kimberleyannedemong56212 күн бұрын
Very interesting video. I knew so little about the title & previous holders. Since the title of Prince of Wales is bestowed not inherited I think the Princess Royal title should be the same. But since I live in the United States my opinion doesn't count. Thanks for another good video ❤
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you. Your opinion counts as much as mine and I'm in the UK (which is to say, I don't think the opinions of us commoners count at all). :-)
@MichelleBruce-lo4oc3 күн бұрын
Hi, awesome live history video I enjoyed it. How are you doing? I'm doing well. We have very cold weather in Ontario Canada. How is the weather where you are.? Have a great day see you next video 😊
@HistoryCalling3 күн бұрын
Hi Michelle. All good here thanks. A little bit warmer than over the past week.
@JessWilkie93Күн бұрын
I'd love to see a video about Margaret Tudor (Queen of Scotland), her life was so interesting!
@AmputeeAdventures2 күн бұрын
Very interesting. I don't think historian do enough articles and shows about the women royals. Thank you for doing so. i believe it should be bestowed, not automatic. PS. LOVE the way so say the word "eight" :)
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Haha, thank you. My accent seems to put some people off, but I'm glad you're not one of them :-)
@AmputeeAdventures2 күн бұрын
@@HistoryCalling well, I do enjoy listening to you talk :)
@aliceingoryland2 күн бұрын
I love that the next (hopefully) princess royal will follow the pattern and be a Charlotte
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Yes, I would say it's nearly certain it will be her. :-)
@gillsinclair69272 күн бұрын
Fantastic video. Thanks
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
My pleasure :-)
@ShelbyPater2 күн бұрын
Another great one! Book ordered❤!
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you so much. I hope it's helpful :-)
@juliemccarthy55802 күн бұрын
Thank you ❤ loved this video
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
You are so welcome! :-)
@Shane-Flanagan2 күн бұрын
Interesting to know of the title's origins and the French version of Madame Royale which obviously must have an older history. A future video on the history and holders of the French title Madame Royale might be interesting HC. Just a thought 🤔 👑
@annmoore66782 күн бұрын
@Shane-Flanagan There were some amazing Mesdames Royales!
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
If I could find a good book on that, I'd be happy to take a look at it 😊
@Jo_Lori3 күн бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks!
@HistoryCalling3 күн бұрын
Thank Jo :-)
@Heidi_Bradshaw3 күн бұрын
I would think the next Princess Royal would be Princess Charlotte of Wales, but it HAS to be granted by the Monarch.
@HistoryCalling3 күн бұрын
Correct :-)
@Zando913 күн бұрын
And it would have to be given to Charlotte by William not Charles since Charles has no daughters. Anne would also need to be deceased for William to name Charlotte as Princess Royal since there can only be one Princess Royal at a time.
@catherineearnshaw84723 күн бұрын
That's right. Also, William probably would not do it straightaway. Princess Anne was not made PR until 1987. The previous PR, Princess Mary, died in 1965.
@DM_Andy2 күн бұрын
The only ways for Charlotte not to be the next Princess Royal is (1) if she dies before Anne dies and William becomes King. (2) if Anne outlives both Charles and William so George is King or (3) William never gives it to her. All three seem unlikely, so I would only offer 1/10 on Charlotte being the next Princess Royal. Here's another unlikely scenario. Imagine that William is now King, but George dies before his father. Charlotte would be heir apparent. Would she get Princess of Wales rather than Princess Royal? Under the new rules could it go eldest child gets Prince(ss) of Wales, eldest son gets Duke of Cornwall, second son gets Duke of York, eldest daughter that's not the eldest child gets Princess Royal.
@janetpendlebury68082 күн бұрын
@@DM_Andy No she would not become Princess of Wales, only the wife of the Prince of Wales holds that title. The title Princess of Wales does not exist on its own. As eldest daughter she can hold the Princess Royal title, if she does become Queen (which would only happen if George dies without issue) the Princess Royal title becomes free, and she could give the title to her eldest daughter if she wanted.
@jeffarmstrong13082 күн бұрын
THAT - was fascinating and I did not expect it to be so. No other comment to make
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you very much. No other comment needed after those lovely words :-)
@vernon25422 күн бұрын
Another great one in my opinion I think it should stay the way it is. I should bestowed on them by a parent I think it would hold more prestige then just getting it. Thanks looking forward to next week.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Yes, it is nice to get as a gift from a parent. Kind of a pat on the back, saying 'You're doing a great job darling'. 😊
@elizabeths83082 күн бұрын
Looking forward to purchasing your book, my paternal grandad was Irish and for some reason I could not see much of him on ancestry websites, only his naval records. So I had to give up!
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you. I hope it helps you to track him down. For someone who was only born a couple of generations ago you should certainly be able to find his birth records, then look up his parents from there and so on and so forth.
@ExestentialCrisisКүн бұрын
Would have been helpful to keep the family tree graphic going throughout - visual representation helps!
@kithg2 күн бұрын
So interesting, and fixed something I had wrong, so thank you.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
You're very welcome :-)
@dorothysutton51622 күн бұрын
Another great video.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you :-)
@joscott59112 күн бұрын
Thank you for another great video. I'm curious though - if James II had named either of his daughters as Princess Royal, would they have retained that title as queen?
@edithengel22842 күн бұрын
It would have had to have been Princess Mary, the elder, and she might have ceased to use it when she became Princess of Orange, a title of equivalent rank. A holder of the title who became queen would cease to bear the title, especially since once she became queen, if she had a daughter of her own, she could confer the title on that daughter. In Mary's case, she would already have stopped using it on her marriage.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
No, once she became Queen, the title would have been subsumed by the Crown (a bit like the Prince of Wales title is). Edith is right though that one wouldn't use it if one had a better title by marriage (though one would still hold the PR title).
@WenglishLass2 күн бұрын
I remember Anne being given the title and couldn’t understand why she hadn’t been given it sooner. Maybe Anne had resisted it for many years, just as she didn’t want titles for her children. Either way, I find the history of all these titles fascinating.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Yeah, it would be interesting to know what went on behind the scenes and why there was such a delay, but we probably never will.
@anweshabiswas14833 күн бұрын
Princess Charlotte of Wales for sure 👍
@HistoryCalling3 күн бұрын
You're spot on :-)
@beastieber50282 күн бұрын
Hello to history calling from Bea
@HistoryCallingКүн бұрын
Hi Bea :-)
@maryloumawson60062 күн бұрын
I agree with a few of the comments here that QEII declined to bestow the title sooner out of respect for Princess Mary. But I also think the media around the royals was a factor. "Living memory" has become a difficult concept to define in an age where media coverage of famous people is so wide spread and accessible. Books, newsreels, magazines and memorabilia would long be around that recalled Princess Mary as the "Princess Royal" to several generations, making the designation seem disrespectful for a far longer period than in earlier eras. Additionally, politically speaking, it may not have been deemed an expedient thing to do. The royal family were struggling with a decline in popularity and it may not have seemed prudent to make a big gesture of granting privileged people extra privileges and airs, especially at a time when their subjects were struggling with economic downturns and the fall out from losing Commonwealth territories. Finally, during the 80s there was so much attention on Charles and Diana, I think the designation was QEII's attempt to take some of the spotlight off Diana and give Ann some recognition. It's possible she didn't even think of doing it until the need arose to show other Royal family members in a positive light as well. Thanks for another wonderfully informative video!
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Yes, I see what you mean about people continuing to associate the title with Mary. I think people still think of Diana quite often when they hear 'Princess of Wales' and I actually find it useful to call the current holder Princess Catherine just to distinguish her, even though it's not technically her title (just as Diana wasn't really Princess Diana). Your point about the country's political/economic problems is a really good one too.
@maryloumawson60062 күн бұрын
@@HistoryCalling Your example is spot-on! Exactly what I meant. That "respect" was felt so deeply, that the current Queen never dared to call herself by her rightful title before Charles inherited. Indeed, when she married Charles, the royals put it about that she wouldn't be called Queen - if I remember correctly. She was to be Princess Consort or some such. But that was changed shortly before QEII died unless I'm dreaming.
@PamelaClare2 күн бұрын
Interesting. I've always wondered about this.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful :-)
@tonyk15843 күн бұрын
Truth: sitting in the Explorer lounge on the Viking Jupiter in the Harbour of Montevideo Uruguay getting my History Calling fix. Your recitation of these royal families reminds me of going to baseball gameswhen I was very young in the 1950s and 60s as the vendors that sold programs shouted out ” Get your programs get your programs you can’t tell your players without a program. Really enjoy your stuff thanks.”
@HistoryCalling3 күн бұрын
Sounds lovely. Enjoy your cruise. I just Googled the ship and it looks amazing :-)
@reginapopihn98532 күн бұрын
I always felt reminded of the title of the french king´s brother, Monsieur, when hearing about the Princess Royal. So thank you very much for this interesting video. Apropos of the french kings: I would love for you to make a video about Elisabeth Charlotte, the sister in law of Louis XIV. She was not a very important person at the french court, but she was a very interesting woman, who left loads and loads of letters. She is one of the few historical persons to let her feelings being shown in those letters, and as "Liselotte von der Pfalz" (Liselotte of the Palatinate) was for a long time a well known person here in Germany. As to Princess Anne, I think she well deserved the title, and it came to her rather late. King Charles was made Prince of Wales in 1969...
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
I'm not familiar with Elisabeth Charlotte actually. I might dip my toe into some non-British royals a bit more with some more famous figures and if that goes well, I'll look at some of the lesser knowns.
@reginapopihn98532 күн бұрын
@@HistoryCalling I´m sure there will be lots of fascinating videos coming. 🙂
@edithengel22842 күн бұрын
@@HistoryCalling She is absolutely fascinating, a very human and down to earth voice in the French court, and as mentioned she left a lot of letters. (There is a book of them, wonderful and amusing reading.). She was Philippe of Orleans' second wife after Henrietta of England, Charles II's sister. "Liselotte"was a granddaughter of Princess Elizabeth Stuart, Queen of Bohemia, James V and I's daughter, and closely related to both the ruling and the exiled Stuarts and to the Hanoverians. She was a niece of Sophia of Hanover, a first cousin of George I, a second cousin of Queens Mary and Anne, and of the Old Pretender. Philippe is a subject in himself, he of the fluid sexual inclinations; his mother dressed him in feminine clothes and called him "my little girl.' She's also the great grandmother of Marie Antoinette. Unlike some other lesser known historical figures, there is a wealth of information about her and her husband, and a good deal is scandalous, so it would seem to present a very good topic for a video.
@catherinelee32982 күн бұрын
Really interesting😊
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you :-)
@paillette20102 күн бұрын
Every time I google Princess Mary, Princess Royal, she looks like she married and older wiser time-travelling Benedict Cumberbatch. Anne's career ended as I was getting into eventing. I always give her props for having the guts to ride at those fences. It's scary, and I've ridden field hunters and done hunter trials. Nothing compares to the size of jumps at that calibre of competition.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Haha, now I'l never be able to look at Princess Mary without seeing BC! See what you've done to me? 😊 I could never do the riding that the royals do. It would scare the pants off me.
@paillette20102 күн бұрын
@@HistoryCalling At least I won't be alone now! LOL!!!
@ArtTara3 күн бұрын
Thank you for your awesome history videos. Will you be making a video about the discovery made by Tim Thornton, Professor of History at the University of Huddersfield, who uncovered a mention of a chain belonging to Edward V in the will of the sister-in-law of one of Richard III's trusted servants?
@HistoryCalling3 күн бұрын
Thank you. I already have a video on that from a few weeks ago. Spoiler alert though, he didn't actually make that discovery. The will has been in print since at least the 19th century, which I thought they should have mentioned in the documentary.
@ArtTara3 күн бұрын
@HistoryCalling Ah, ok. Thank you for letting me know!
@nicolamarchbank18462 күн бұрын
I loved the sass on the "tipped to become" comment around Princess Charlotte. "Expected to become" is a more elegant way of phrasing things. Apparently Princess Mary was George V's favourite child. Princess Anne is generally understood to be Prince Philip's favourite and her marriage was breaking down at the time, so perhaps that was an aspect of the process and they were hedging their bets on what to call her longer term? Princess Victoria was supposedly Prince Albert's, so their is a definite theme developing and Mary II was definitely NOT James II and VII's.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Haha, thank you. :-) Yes, it is interesting to wonder if parental favouritism plays a role in if and when a woman gets the title.
@edithengel22842 күн бұрын
At 6:35 : First cousin marriage is not incest. Obviously, if it's repeated every generation, as in the case of the Habsburgs (thank you for the Don Carlos video), it will eventually amount to the same thing. But to refer to both situations as being the same in general is, in my opinion, confusing.
@missanne29082 күн бұрын
In the US, nineteen states allow first cousin marriage, while an additional seven others allow it under certain conditions.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Hmm, it's not illegal in many places I'll grant you that, but I think in this case we could say it's a matter of opinion what one considers moral or genetic incest. For me, 1st cousins is a bit too close, but I accept if you have a different view on it.
@edithengel22842 күн бұрын
@ Let's call it a somewhat different view: One or two cousin marriage in a family is probably nearly harmless, and not incestuous. Repeated cousin marriage, including double first cousin marriages and uncle/niece marriages create a situation which is certainly incestuous in nature even if it doesn't precisely fit the legal definition of incest. (Yes, 14th-17th century Spanish/Portuguese royalty and your Hapsburgian cousins, I'm looking at you.). I guess, as a further thought, I wouldn't want to offend those who are legally partners in such a marriage or their children, by describing the marriage as incestuous.
@missanne29082 күн бұрын
@@HistoryCalling It's funny, I'm adopted and marriage to a first cousin would have been a way to guarantee it was not genetic incest in the era before DNA testing. My nine year old first cousin proposed to me when I was eleven. I mentioned that fact to my aunt when I was an adult, and her response was pretty wistful. She said she would have liked it if I had married her son. He certainly would have been a better pick for me than any of my boyfriends (I was lousy in picking them), but we were raised so closely as children that I never thought of him as anything other than a brother
@theconqueringram52952 күн бұрын
As a Yankee Doodle Dandy, I had no idea about the title. I am thankful that this video not only brought awareness to me, but even explain its (admittedly fascinating) history.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Happy to help :-)
@yvonne39032 күн бұрын
Love your humour 😊
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you :-)
@Shane-Flanagan2 күн бұрын
I was confused so had to look it up, you mention around 13:11 that George V was the nephew of Princess Louise but I see they were in fact siblings 😊
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Oops. Sorry. There's always some silly little thing like that that somehow slips through. It's endlessly frustrating to me. I really don't know how I miss the stuff sometimes.
@Shane-Flanagan2 күн бұрын
@HistoryCalling It's so easy to slip up. The family trees of royalty can be quite confusing and complicated 😁
@Shane-Flanagan2 күн бұрын
Mary, Princess Royal and Countess of Harewood is an interesting yet underrated figure. We don't seem to hear much discussion about her and besides being a holder of the title of Princess Royal, Mary is kinda a forgotten member of the Royal family. You'd be forgiven for forgetting that Queen Elizabeth II had a paternal aunt.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
I totally agree. I knew (and still know really) next to nothing about her.
@david_walker_esq2 күн бұрын
I think it's more meaningful or of greater value that the honour or title is given at the monarch's prerogative, rather than it be automatically inherited. I believe Her Royal Highness, Anne, Princess Royal is well deserving of the title. I have a feeling that Princess Charlotte of Wales will follow in her great aunt's footsteps and do the Royal Family and Commonwealth proud with her service to her King and Country.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Yes, it's a nice way for the royal parent to show their love and approval of their child.
@shanenolan56253 күн бұрын
Thanks hc
@HistoryCalling3 күн бұрын
You're welcome Glad you liked it :-)
@lyndanickerson13733 күн бұрын
Thank you
@HistoryCalling3 күн бұрын
You're welcome. Enjoy :-)
@SurferJoe12 күн бұрын
For an extra little tiny way to support this wonderful channel, let a commercial play now and then. Give it thirty seconds. I just did, and now I'm ready to begin my wavy hair journey. (For some reason, the algorithm is certain I'm a twentyish woman!) Seriously, let an ad play and say 'thank you' to our excellent teacher.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you so much Joe. You're the best :-)
@alexrafe2590Күн бұрын
Aside from the first Anne to become a Princess royal, the daughter of George II, not outliving her father, I believe she also gave preference to the other title she acquired when she married, like the first Princess Royal, Mary Stuart, another member of the House of Orange, Prince Willem, and unlike Princess Mary , daughter of Charles I, or Mary II wife of William III (or Willem of Orange) Anne produced a son Willem of Orange and a daughter (whose name escapes me) who survived her and both would go on to produce children who both are ancestors to the current Dutch royal family. And Anne when she married her Dutch husband gave preference to using her husband's title, thus she was known as Anne the Princess of Orange, rather than continuing to use her previous title of Anne Princess Royal.
@jbos51072 күн бұрын
I fell down a rabbit hole while looking for your book! I'm ordering it for my husband. I used to find genealogy very interesting but lost interest. I made the mistake of buying my husband a DNA test, and then he had to have an account with all the bells and whistles to look at all he wanted to see. He's been driving me crazy ever since. I'm sure he'll enjoy your book. Do you have an opinion on the various paid sites like Ancestry or MyHeritage? I've noticed that some history channels from the UK get sponsorships from MyHeritage. I'm sure that means nothing when channels are just trying to survive. I'm just curious of historians opinions on these types of sites.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for getting the book. Ancestry (and FindMyPast for that matter) have some great record sets and I've used them myself. I haven't used MyHeritage very much. I looked at a MyHeritage sponsorship too once, but they wanted me to put my family tree on the screen to show people and with how fussy I am with my online privacy I wasn't prepared to do that.
@jbos5107Күн бұрын
@@HistoryCalling I don't blame you for that at all. Thank you for replying. I'm sure my husband will enjoy your book!
@Elora4452 сағат бұрын
@@jbos5107 As far as I have understood it, both sites work fine for American's at least, since they tend to be the most major group. I favor MyHeritage since they work fine, not great, even if you don't pay them. Also, if you have ever had a sub with them and then stop, they tend to really, really want you back and give you bigger and bigger discounts the longer you wait. As a random Swede, it has worked fine for me.
@jillkearns5252 күн бұрын
I might be biased by the amount of work Princess Anne has and continues to do as Princess Royal. Definitely think she should continually be the sole holder of that title in her lifetime.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Yes, I like the idea of it being held by one person at once and Anne certainly deserves the honour. No doubt about that.
@true05angel2 күн бұрын
Does the title come with lands or income like the Prince of Wales? Or is it just a title?
@Tugela602 күн бұрын
It is just a title. There are no lands associated with it.
@janetpendlebury68082 күн бұрын
The land belongs to the Duke of Cornwall title not the Prince of Wales title.
@true05angel2 күн бұрын
@ Thanks for clarifying.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Just a title.
@johnnzboy2 күн бұрын
Pedantry alert: 9:14 Sophia Dorothea was not the Queen of Prussia, she was the Queen *in* Prussia - her husband, Frederick William I, was styled the King in Prussia as his father, Frederick I, had accepted this 'lesser' style in deference to Emperor Leopold I (long story) - it wasn't until Sophia Dorothea's son, Frederick II aka Frederick the Great aka Old Fritz, that the title changed to "King of Prussia". Anyway, great video!
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you. I didn't know that, but will try to remember it if I do a video on her in the future. :-)
@johnnzboy10 сағат бұрын
@@HistoryCalling When I lived in Germany and discovered this semantic nicety (König in Preußen cf. König von Preußen) it amused me so I've always remember this historical oddity ("most of 17th C., Fred I to Fred Billy to Fred II, King _in_ Prussia"), and this is far from the only example of the in/of distinction in various royal titles in Euro history e.g. King of the Belgians -King of Belgium- Oh, suggestion for a future episode, a look into unusual/quirky royal titles? ;)
@James-eh6mg3 күн бұрын
Really interesting video - I wonder if Edward VII's appointment of Princess Louise as Princess Royal had anything to do with the fact that his youngest daughter Princess Maud became Queen of Norway approximately 2 weeks later - it had been in the offing for several months and the result of the referendum seemed a sure thing and so its hard to believe the two were not interlinked in some way. Edward had got himself very excited in promoting his son-in-law's candidacy for the Norwegian throne and perhaps saw an opportunity to further develop his international stature - his mother had been known as the grandmother of Europe which left him as the mere uncle as none of his daughters made grand marriages. Suddenly he now counted a daughter as Queen and maybe saw an opportunity to maximise the marriageability of his granddaughters in the European marriage market by making his eldest daughter Princess Royal and her daughters princesses of the United Kingdom - even with the status of Highness it was still higher than most princesses - Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg became Queen of Spain and she was mere Serene Highness. His granddaughters Alexandra and Maud Fife would never have been able to marry into any of the European royal houses as despite their maternal heritage, their titles and rank was determined by their father's status and so such marriages would have been considered morganatic had they not been princesses. For quite some years it was reported Edward dreamed of marrying Alexandra to Manuel II of Portugal as he was very close to the Portuguese royal family.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
That's a really interesting idea. Maybe, yes :-)
@arde292 күн бұрын
Dear Princess Victoria, she really did get the short end of the stick😅. Also, a small correction regarding Princess Victoria Eugenie - she was also born with the style of Highness due to the Royal Warrant of 1886 issued by Quen Victoria which granted this style to all of Princess Beatrice's children
@dorothysutton51622 күн бұрын
Boosting the engagement algorithm.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Thank you :-)
@eliscanfield39132 күн бұрын
What do you know, I am too! 🍵
@dorothysutton51622 күн бұрын
7000 from 300K subscribers... let's get HC there.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Haha, thank you. Yes, hopefully that particular goal isn't too far away now. I'm almost at 10k on Instagram too which is nice.
@littlemiss_762 күн бұрын
There you go, thank you for that information I knew very little of The Princess Royal, I thought and it sounds awful that the title was a consultation prize for the poor girl who should have been next in line but wasn't. Anne is one hardworking royal and what I've seen of her Anne isn't opposed to hard work. I still think Anne should have been the Queen now. 😊
@janetpendlebury68082 күн бұрын
Anne was never next in line to become Queen, when she was born she was 3rd in line, and when her mother became Queen she was 2nd in line, quickly going down the line after her brothers were born. She is now 17th in line.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
I understand your point, but Janet is correct that Anne was never directly in line to become Queen, so hopefully that takes the sting out of it for her. 😊
@littlemiss_762 күн бұрын
@@janetpendlebury6808 I know. It was wishful thinking
@agatha69992 күн бұрын
The Jacobites’ story is so amusing to me because of how many titles they declared that are invalid and how many chances they did have to validate it that just didn’t happen
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Yes, their existence certainly complicated matters for a long time, with multiple people claiming the same titles at once.
@kaloarepo288Күн бұрын
The inversion of the words gives a big clue to the French origin of the title -had it been English the words would be 'royal princess."
@dlxmarks2 күн бұрын
It hasn't happened but I suppose if a Princess Royal were to succeed her parent to the throne, she would surrender the title to become queen regnant as the Princes of Wales do. Under the 2013 Succession to the Crown Act, succession is now in birth order without regard to sex so it's likely to happen some day.
@missanne29082 күн бұрын
Good point! I have also thought about the case in which the oldest child is a girl (who would be in directly in line to the throne), would her younger brother be eligible to be Prince of Wales? As it is now, it seems that it could technically be a possibility, but I can't see a monarch naming his eldest son as Prince of Wales unless he also was directly in line to the throne.
@dlxmarks2 күн бұрын
@@missanne2908 Yes, I get the feeling that a Princess Royal could be a female heir apparent or not but the Prince of Wales will always be reserved for a male heir apparent.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Yes, I think the title would become part of the Crown again, just as the Prince of Wales title does and would be available to be bestowed once more.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Now there's an interesting question. I wonder if perhaps a female heiress to the throne will just eventually be made Princess of Wales in her own right instead? I don't think a younger brother would be eligible to be PoW because then the title wouldn't be available to give to the new queen's son, if she had a son as her first child.
@sarasamaletdin4574Күн бұрын
This is why I hope George’s oldest is a girl. It is just interesting to be able to see what can happen
@briandrzewiecki58612 күн бұрын
I'm of two minds about how it should be bestowed. I think it's a great tradition to be passed down. An automatic bestowal where there is more than one "Princess Royal" doesn't make the title feel special. Having a monarch parent bestow it is the best option for me, however, if there is more than one princess in the monarch parent's immediate family, I can see a jealousy issue, even though it is a title designated to the eldest daughter.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Yes, it must be a bit of a pain when your sister is the Princess Royal and you're not, just because you weren't born first. I suppose that's the way the whole system of monarchy is constructed though. Birth order matters and until recently, boys were more important than girls.
@OzzieJayne2 күн бұрын
I'm just waiting for Princess Anne's Villain era 💜
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Have you ever seen the comedy show 'The Windsors'? She's a villain in that, as is Camilla. It's very funny though.
@OzzieJayne2 күн бұрын
@@HistoryCalling Yes! Love that show!
@lisapetrison-beautyreviews2 күн бұрын
It seems to me that if the monarchy survives, probably some family members are going to choose to be working royals and others are going to choose to go off and pursue other careers (as already has started to happen). Maybe what would make sense would be for the Princess Royal title to be given to a senior female family member who has chosen to be a working royal, as Anne has done, rather than to necessarily the eldest daughter of the monarch. Though what should happen to the title if that woman later decided to go off and do something else, I don't know.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
I imagine (and this is just my opinion) that a lot of them would love to be able to go off and have their own quiet careers and lives, but unfortunately the media attention on them from birth makes it basically impossible. Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie seem to have made it work for them, but they aren't senior royals and I bet their fame has still been tricky for them sometimes in the working world.
@lisapetrison-beautyreviews2 күн бұрын
My guess is that Princess Anne didn't care at all if she had that title (just as she didn't find it desirable for her kids to have titles) and thought that it might be better to give it to the hypothetical daughter of Charles after he became king. But that by 1987, it had become seeming probable that Charles was not going to have any more kids because his marriage to DIana was a mess, and therefore Anne was persuaded to take it after all. That hypothesis seems to fit the timetable anyway.
@Tugela602 күн бұрын
Her kids are entitled to titles whether she likes it or not. They have the rank, they choose not to use the title. It is up to them after they reach the age of majority, not Anne.
@lisapetrison-beautyreviews2 күн бұрын
People Magazine, 12/21/23: Zara Tindall is explaining why she's grateful that Princess Anne didn’t give her the title of princess. "'From my point of view, I was obviously very lucky that my mother didn't give us any titles so I really commend her on that," the pro rider began with a laugh. "We were very lucky that we got to do it a bit our own way," she continued, referring to her upbringing with elder brother Peter Phillips. Princess Anne, 73, welcomed Zara and Peter, 46, during her marriage to Captain Mark Phillips, which ended in divorce in 1992. When she became a mom, the Princess Royal broke decades of tradition by opting out of royal titles or HRH styling for her children. While Peter and Zara were not entitled to royal status by birth, Queen Elizabeth extended a courtesy title to Anne’s children, which her daughter politely declined in the hope of providing a more normal childhood.
@janetpendlebury68082 күн бұрын
@@Tugela60 Zara and Peter are well over the age of majority, they do not want titles.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
Perhaps, yes. We'll probably never know for sure what caused such a long delay in the title being bestowed.
@HistoryCalling2 күн бұрын
I wouldn't say they were entitled to titles no matter what. Titles come from the father, rather than the mother and as their Dad had no title, they wouldn't have had any either unless the then Queen had made a special grant to them. It's not like Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor and the Earl of Wessex who are entitled to be Princess Louise and Prince James, but opt not to use those titles.