Allan Holdsworth Lead Tone with Helix and HX Stomp?

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Using preset "Hold Lead 5"
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[@gabriell8714]

I think you also forgot to mention that Holdsworth also rolled back is tone knob at around 50% to get the treble roll off and so he could keep more treble on the amp . I do agree on the low end. I think i read somewhere that he almost dial out the low end completely so the mids are more present. I found that with these two little tricks I get even more of that "woodwind" sound even on my normal amp set-up. If you listen to Prelude on Hard hat area, the sound is surprisingly more brighter and tighter than most people think. And also, the super light string (08's or 09's) is a big thing to get that natural tightness without giving too much output to the pickups.

[@johnnathancordy]

Great info that I didn't know!

[@christopher.hallissy]

Love how you’re squeezing everything you can out of the Stomp.

[@hanovergreen4091]

Line6 should have Johnnathan do videos for them...for money :)

[@yzimsx]

Do you mean that John's tones are better than what you'd expect to come out of a Stomp? I'm thinking of buying an HX Stomp, to get something a bit thicker and more singing than what I get from a $99 Zoom G1X FOUR, and it's entirely possible that the problem is just my lack of skills, which is not fixable by purchasing new gear.

[@christopher.hallissy]

@@yzimsx the Helix is a relatively old platform. The Floor came out almost 6 years ago. That hasn’t stopped Line 6 from consistently updating the firmware, but it’s (likely) at the last third of its existence. My original point to John is that he has continued to make inspiring music and squeeze tone out of a box that is, again, relatively old. My son has a Zoom G1X Four. It’s good, but the Line 6 stuff sounds better. It should too, as it’s 6x the price. It also depends on your use case. Are you a touring/gigging musician? The build quality of the Zoom isn’t conducive to getting loaded in and packed out every evening; it’s plastic. I think the Zoom stuff is good for what it is, and the price point it resides in, but it is not as good as the Line 6 Helix line, objectively speaking.

[@yzimsx]

@@christopher.hallissy Ok thanks, got it. :) An HX Stomp, that is. ;)

[@rordrom3234]

That tone sounded amazing! I like you're playing very much!

[@rockstarjazzcat]

Nice take on things. And wonderful to hear some of his more melodic phrasing in your chops.

[@johnnathancordy]

Ah I think your last comment with the link got binned by the YT gods?

[@rockstarjazzcat]

They might be demons. Did you see it before it disappeared?

[@johnnathancordy]

@@rockstarjazzcat not properly!

[@simonanthonymusic6992]

Oh yeh. Sounds smooth. 🙏🙏👏👏

[@srubel59]

Amazing playing to a classic backing track. Outstanding!

[@gordoncrmn]

Awesome playing and great tone !!

[@saralowe_arts]

Sounds sooooo goooood

[@aaronvalure178]

Do you have any Allan Lead style presets for the FM3?

[@TitoSilversax]

Tone for days…. 🔥🔥

[@Minotauro_di_Chieti]

Gorgeous tone man, you nailed it, and amazing phrasing.

[@ludlowfalls8856]

Sounds great!

[@proequipments7210]

beautiful sound..i just bought adam t7v and u sound fantastic..

[@YuriStolov]

Great dounds wow - I have line 6 pod go,so how exactly I get this kind of sound on it or should I convert from hx stomp to pod go may be?

[@HenryChinaski614]

Great playing and thanks for the tutorial. I’ve never used a modeler and they seem great. What type/level compression are you running if any? I’m actually referring to Allan’s playing on Chad Wackermans albums in the early 90’s. Thanks.

[@briane.paulson]

Good stuff

[@lawrenceadams1649]

By any chance are you a fan of another Alan?... Alan Murphy

[@johnnathancordy]

What I've heard is amazing

[@fusionfan6883]

Ha yes I mentioned AM in another post and I think it is fair to say those who love Allan also love Alan😊🎸🤘🏻 I love how he managed to create his unique pop fusion style and literally every solo he recorded sends shivers, especially on the first Go West album, the track Warning Sign by Nick Hayward, and of course on his own SFX album. If you are not familiar with Ronnie Johnson, I urge to check out the album How the Land Lies by First Light🌈

[@sampokantele]

⁠​⁠@@fusionfan6883Thanks for mentioning Ronnie Johnson - I hadn’t heard him before.

[@fusionfan6883]

@@sampokantele Happy to help👍🏻 If you don’t already know of her, also check out Susan Weinert. Whilst not necessarily Allan sounding, you might also want to check out a couple of other lesser known rock fusion albums such as Shaun Baxter’s Jazz Metal, Keith Moore’s Guitar Stories, and any albums by Gamalon, Matalex and Five After Four. Enjoy🎸🤘🏻

[@sampokantele]

@@fusionfan6883 Thanks again! I've heard Shaun Baxter and Gamalon before, but I will also listen others mentioned here. Thank you for taking the time!

[@jayboy6895]

Although I’m afraid to say the tone isn’t anywhere near to Holdsworth. Sorry. The playing more than makes up. You have more chance finding the tone in your fingers and amp. I would suggest forget the pedal. I know it’s my opinion. I can see what your aiming for but that pedal isn’t helping you maestro

[@fusionfan6883]

Yep love John’s incredible playing but the preset is nothing like Allan, not least because it has way too much reverb. But am grateful for all the great sounds John does drop🎸🤘🏻

[@jayboy6895]

@@fusionfan6883 Agree mate. John’s playing is Superb. His ideas are cracking. Love what he is doing. Have a great weekend

[@DaviSiqueiraSilva]

I agree with you both. Maybe with a little more mids, not so tamed highs, and less reverb, this tone would be more like Alan's. But the playing makes me completely forget these differences.

[@jayboy6895]

@@DaviSiqueiraSilva Great point buddy. The playing is sublime. Have a great weekend I hope I haven’t offended John?

[@DaviSiqueiraSilva]

@@jayboy6895 you too! And you probably shouldn't worry about John. He always seemed to be a nice guy and I'm sure he knows how to deal with a little criticism, specially when it's done so politely and gently like you did. I'm sure everything is just fine.

[@paulcaton7093]

That is a cool tone. The variety and quality of the sounds that you get from the Stomp is impressive. (Great playing, too - but we take that for granted on this channel.)

[@pvdmac]

Brilliant

[@smooth_jazz_escola]

Killer tone and play, but I think there's something kind of fuzzy there that I don't hear in Allan's tone, anyway, lead tones are like parfums...each person perceives it differently...lol

[@memalley]

dude, sick UK reference.

[@jeffmedina8839]

What an Awesome Tone!! I want it ! Thanks for sharing!!

[@TirelessG]

Where can I download this preset?

[@cris_horizons]

I wish make that tone on the pod HD 500

[@mgie22]

That San Bern always looks great! Matches your outfit as well.

[@hanovergreen4091]

That is a GREAT tone!!! Best Regards!

[@john808welk]

Good to see san bernie back. Sounds awesome as usual