allu opens up on Aleksib removal, sergej stepping down, ENCE's mentality | HLTV Confirmed S5E20

What made ENCE remove their in-game leader? What issues plagued the Finnish team as they tumbled down the rankings ever since?
Aleksi "allu" Jalli, Finnish CS:GO player representing ENCE, took part in the HLTV Confirmed podcast to answer community questions about the team as well as his former and current teammates, including suNny, Jamppi, and xseveN. The AWPer also touched on the implication that he told NiKo not to pick up Aleksib on FaZe, and commented on the Tweets made by sergej and suNny while the show was live.
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0:00 - Podcast intro
Hotseat with allu
3:57 - End of 2020, ENCE out of top 30
5:40 - Rewinding to the Aleksib removal
11:17 - Looking back at ENCE results after Aleksib
20:22 - Leadership & mental health in ENCE
27:03 - Jamppi signing, xseveN as sixth
33:02 - How Twista's coach bug ban affected ENCE
36:48 - Aerial, sergej out, Finnish army
42:47 - Future with doto, SADDYX,
49:34 - State of Finnish scene
Recent news
57:31 - CSPPA and voice comms drama
1:02:42 - allu gives player perspective on public communication
1:11:30 - Extra Salt sign ex-Cloud9
IEM & BLAST
1:15:03 - Are Vitality the #1 team of 2020?
1:23:42 - NAVI, Astralis in contention for Global Challenge
1:31:00 - Liquid’s last chance
Playtime
1:38:03 - allu responding to sergej’s tweet
1:41:57 - Why do ENCE players hate interviews?
1:44:06 - allu building a dream team of his all past teams
1:47:20 - Did allu tell NiKo to not get Aleksib?
1:49:50 - Options to go international?
1:53:01 - Which team has been the best in 2020?
1:56:29 - Online vs. LAN - how it’s been?
2:01:40 - Final words from allu
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[@Professeur_CS]

I guess you will go to 1:38:03 and then (hopefully) back to the start. Timestamps: 0:00 - Podcast intro Hotseat with allu 3:57 - End of 2020, ENCE out of top 30 5:40 - Rewinding to the Aleksib removal 11:17 - Looking back at ENCE results after Aleksib 20:22 - Leadership & mental health in ENCE 27:03 - Jamppi signing, xseveN as sixth 33:02 - How Twista's coach bug ban affected ENCE 36:48 - Aerial, sergej out, Finnish army 42:47 - Future with doto, SADDYX, 49:34 - State of Finnish scene’s Recent news 57:31 - CSPPA and voice comms drama 1:02:42 - allu gives player perspective on public communication 1:11:30 - Extra Salt sign ex-Cloud9 IEM & BLAST 1:15:03 - Are Vitality the #1 team of 2020? 1:23:42 - NAVI, Astralis in contention for Global Challenge 1:31:00 - Liquid’s last chance Playtime 1:38:03 - allu responding to sergej’s tweet 1:41:57 - Why do ENCE players hate interviews? 1:44:06 - allu building a dream team of his all past teams 1:47:20 - Did allu tell NiKo to not get Aleksib? 1:49:50 - Options to go international? 1:53:01 - Which team has been the best in 2020? 1:56:29 - Online vs. LAN - how it’s been? 2:01:40 - Final words from allu

[@reaper15th]

Allu responding to the tweet was painful to listen to, you can tell that he was caught off guard lmao

[@mindfucker88]

Tnx dude

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

@@reaper15th People are washing hands and looking for someone strong enough to blame for everything, People cracking mentally and loosing the trust and will of fight in a finnish CS scene, Now our only successful team is falling a part and AleksiB is at Team Og with all his Fans supporting him... Feels bad man.

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

as every problem includes both Allu and AleksiB, only Allu getting the blames

[@mindfucker88]

@@kinuspacemouse1631 sure so why is he the only one left from the original lineup? Wach the tweet part

[@cfs7338]

Allu definitely did not expect those tweets. you can see the sadness in his eyes

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

His team members has been mentally bullied for year now because of this decision of the company some broke down as mental health as there is hundreds of finnish people bullying them daily, all AleksiB fans. Who would not be sad? also now people turning against him even i am sure he does all he can for his team.

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

also our YLE (national television channel) hosts a streamer that constantly talks bad of team Ence and praises AleksiB.. AleksiB took the martyr position in this drama and his comments has been: "They just did not want to play with me, i dont know, no comment" it must been damn of a ride for a whole Ence team just a because this mess

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

As Finnish person i am ashamed of our behaviour and how we represent us in to the other world

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

but im proud of Allu handling this like a man, standing up and showing how strong person he is and how strong a one finnish man can be, admits mistakes, being proud of success and keeps goin.

[@maxmustermann5902]

@@kinuspacemouse1631 standing out like a man? He says he made mistakes, not saying which mistakes, obviously pressured the other teammates, and now tries to act like he actually is the victim

[@lleyton8791]

Without Chad the show feels like there is no one to steer the ship

[@Temedin]

I do agree, but Prof and Striker still did a really good job without him! Props to them.

[@Valmentaja]

37:48 military Service is mandatory for male people in Finland and it takes a maximum of one year. You have an option to do one year civil service instead of military service; OR if you don’t want to do either of those you can go to jail for two years. So Segej can influence / pick the timing and duration of his service.

[@niilotalala3153]

Nobody wants to destroy Allu, but this interview told the terrifying truth about everything. If HLTV and ENCE wanted to start talking about this, would it be easier to tell the whole truth? Aleksib removal, Xseven to Havu, Aerial taking some break and Sergej taking break to complete the military service, but still he wrote a tweet about this whole case. Finnish media hasn't been active about this case, because players didn't want to talk about it. But now when they talk, we could avoid speculating and fake news if somebody just said something concrete.

[@Jallu0]

++1

[@joonahanhisuanto48]

Moro nipe +1

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

Hopefully AleksiB puts a dot on this whole drama

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

Aerial taking some break, do you mean mental break? i sure hope mad fans did not crush his mental health that would be new low bottom of our finnish team spirit

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

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[@chrishackett4824]

Really Really appreciate Allu to step outside of your comfort zone and do this interview. I've always been a big fan of your play and also curious about your finnish style in how you carry yourself. Thanks for doing this interview! & we are cheering for you always

[@patrickh4419]

Right, doesnt matter who is right or wrong. Everyone made mistakes and he didnt kick aleksiB alone for sure, but he seems to be the only one having the balls to talk about all this. the other kids just hide behind their twitter.

[@adarshmakwana9562]

Damn this was fire

[@Moe90rules]

appreciate allu coming on and talking. he went completely out of his comfort zone, gotta respect that. not too much into the entire ence discussion and what has been going on, must have been tough times for the full team, with mistakes being made along the way

[@joao.ribeiro]

Felt kinda bad for allu in the last half of the interview, even though he might be not telling the complete story, we cannot judge that as outsiders. Anyways, props to him for trying to be more opened to these kind of interviews.

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

Now we just need AleksiBs view of things and we in Finland can forget this sad drama part of our CS History and we wont be remember as a bunch of crybaby drama lovers in the E-sports scene... As we shoot hard and fight harder, Gl ty please end this "tasty" drama and let us focus on real things

[@yesterdaystech86]

I was very dissapointed when they dropped Aleksi and had a feeling Allu is behind it. But its been a long time and we know Allu is anxious doing interviews so its a shitty thing to bring that tweet up live as he already talked a lot about ence. So not a fan lf Allu but everyone turning on him seems a bit shitty just discuss these things in house.

[@AQ-me7zr]

1:41:45 SAVAGE!! This guy fr😂 ”which is the most important thing in ENCE, having fun”

[@K-Var]

I can see that Allu has tried to make Ence top 1 team but aiming to best result he has missed entirely mental side and team chemistry. Now he finally starts to realize that. Not even best 5 players in world would make it to top 1 if team chemistry is failing. I'm most sad about new Ence players. Must be hard for them to realize they have jumped in an terrible mess. I really hope they can fix it somehow.

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

Now we just need AleksiBs view of things and we in Finland can forget this sad drama part of our CS History and we wont be remember as a bunch of crybaby drama lovers in the E-sports scene... As we shoot hard and fight harder, Gl ty please end this "tasty" drama and let us focus on real things

[@RajSankla123]

No. It was about internal politics

[@MusHrOOmsonaCid]

respect for allu for opening up like this

[@bigguy4002]

sergej made him open up

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

Yea huge respect to him!

[@rankaisijaTNT]

@@bigguy4002 sergej is just a sad alcoholic and he is one of the problems. 9h past 2 werks before a big tournament and he wasn’t even practicing invidually just driving with his mercedes with mates and drinking every weekend. Ence was kinda recovering but sergej wasn’t playing at his level at all

[@raju-jo9zk]

@@rankaisijaTNT that's normal, guy just turned 18 of course he wants to do something else than play csgo

[@keimojeppe]

@@rankaisijaTNT drinking and living life at 18 is pretty normal tho

[@Lybrel]

Drink a shot of Finlandia Vodka every time you hear the word "like" *legally not culpable for your death

[@mindfucker88]

O its on shitbrain

[@haveheart1000]

Dude, reading and seeing+hearing allu doing these statements here are two different worlds. Kippis!

[@ohWaltsi]

Its sad to see how people react in a way allu is some kind of victim. He owns stocks at ENCE and greed got best of him. 500 000 sellout and he gets part of it. He could not handle the fact that Aleksib was face of the team and he was the reason for success. He was so bad influence for everyone that 3 players needed break for mental issues and 4th got kicked out with other management of ENCE and yes, got slice of the money.

[@el060248]

What kind of money are we talking here? I hope you are not suggesting that this 500k sale somehow slipped past the books? How big of a part does Allu own? ENCE reported net profit of 90k in 2019. What was the dividend paid to the shareholders? You must know since you are talking about this with such confidence.

[@ohWaltsi]

@@el060248 6~ %

[@DopplerGB]

Sergej tweet: 1:38:03

[@gokusaiyajin3910]

Sunny being co-owner of Ence does explain something.. Sunny left for better team after he found Ence early in his career, and wanted to come back after Ence's fairy tale run at major & aleksib was the odd one who isn't tagged up with his teammates hence is kicked out!!

[@SilentAttackTV]

This actually makes sense. Maybe Allu and Sunny were friends and Allu didn't want to go against Sunny, or maybe they both thought it was a good idea and it just didn't work out at all.

[@KristianMejnert]

This isn't Allu guys. It's Adam Sandler playing the Little Nicky character. 100%..

[@Yukari_MAiG]

Literally can't tell the story without the other side's as well, just like with the one in Faze with Niko. Although there must be a reason why the original 5 of ENCE all left the active roster but him.

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

either this is backstab to the one that tries the hardest or it is a man inside the team that wants the team to disband

[@NiyaCathrel]

I didn't follow the ENCE drama when it happened, but I appreciate allu coming on and giving his perspective. By that he's already done more than those teammates who only ever vaguely allude to 'more' or 'the whole truth' but never actually say anything. If I could give one point of constructive criticism for the show: I think Prof and Striker should be better prepared for the viewer question segment at the end. They know the segment is coming, but always seem to have prepared only one question and then start scrambling.

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

including AleksiB that has not said almost anything but playing the victim, Sergej tweeting little bird, Aerial + xSeven washing their hand in a silence.

[@tabull8180]

Sry to comment your old comment, but; Allu is not employee but a owner so he has different type of contract with him. Meaning that Allu could speak more with no repercussions to him, while others would violate their contracts (and maybe law also) by speaking something sensitive information.

[@botswanaenjoyer]

Mikhail Gorbachev approves of Aleksib and the OG organization

[@t1ssue]

I felt really bad for allu, he has such an innocent voice and he’s talking about the failures that has happened. Especially sergej’s tweet.

[@andice8588]

Devil in disguise

[@paloman95]

@@andice8588 He even asked for a lamb

[@liquidmilk5323]

Aleksib has now won a major, allu! :)

[@no3396]

lol he sounds most enthusiastic when he’s making a sardonic comment.

[@MarkoLomovic]

This is so weird without chad

[@raflyassalam1965]

1:41:49 "having fun"

[@parkervx1k]

nice work allu. If he never got benched he wouldn't have the major winning with Navi. ALESKIIII

[@ImaTip]

I understand Mibr now's good Now it's ence turn

[@mmiikkaa1550]

if they would have worked it out somehow in sep 2019 that roster would maybe be the major champions 2021

[@martinolsen007]

allu looks like the most depressed person ive seen in a while, has anyone seen him be more hype?

[@moma026able]

He's like always like this, at least on the media side of things. I obviously don't know him privately.

[@Onedeag-qw3yc]

@@rikusalo6873 6 hours a day seems ok tbh

[@ryancurran8408]

@@Onedeag-qw3yc when those hours fall when most people are working it means you never get to see the sun except on your days off, if you work inside.

[@hansgerber8654]

I don't blame Allu for being lost for words. That Sergej tweet was vage af

[@lobsterknight4165]

Lol I was so excited about going army here in Finland

[@sankalpsreekar9295]

I think allu's alt is commenting on all the comments under video lol

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

Nop man, Im just standing up for the only man of the group at the moment, Allu has given so much to us as Finland nation that its unbearable how people are now treating him, as he is most known finnish E-Athele among Serral. The thing that somebody got kicked out from the team is not at all as dirty as what is happening to Ence after it.

[@iqbaltaufiq17]

1:46:08 faze NiKo in a nutshell

[@cocorambo9587]

allu's ego had a price, one way or the another. seems like tearing ence apart was the price this time #notsoez4ence

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

You think Allu would have not won majors without Ence never forming? how about Aleksib? Aerial? xSeven? Sergej? hmm.

[@5upl1an]

fun game: count how often they all said the word "obviously"

[@mrskizzot]

Eh sometimes people see things differently, no one knows everything that goes on. I don't think Allu is purely to blame for anything. But who knows.

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

Id like to hear AleksiB point of view as he said he does have one, but then added that Ence just did not want to play with him, i dont know and no comment

[@rovaliski4073]

Sergei just wanted play with real m4's

[@ReallyPro0011]

More like real ak's

[@rovaliski4073]

@@ReallyPro0011 there is no ak's in army

[@ReallyPro0011]

But Rk is ak's bro

[@mattisbubba8372]

depressing episode:(

[@omerfarukpolat4256]

Allu a good guy.no question. accepts that he made mistakes.

[@spilledbeansrecords5685]

lol hell no. hes pretender

[@winglurre5178]

i dont know why but i am still mad that ence kicked aleksiB

[@100kbeforesummer3]

hm

[@cassu678]

aleksib didnt have any weakness he literally was the reason why ence got into major finals allu just was jealous and wanted to lead the team like aleksib

[@meichan3130]

He didn’t know any better and don’t put so much pressure Jesus and also chill

[@RajSankla123]

@@meichan3130 lol why not. If allu is being an egotistical douche, why not give him shit for it

[@ghost_ib9928]

@@RajSankla123 being a douche is one thing,but everyone deserves a second chance, especially if they realise their mistake

[@RajSankla123]

@@ghost_ib9928 he didn't tho. He continued kicking people at his whim and completely rekt Ence

[@nonnonnoo1898]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6qXZZhspsZ9q5o Just wondering if allu broke finnish laws there? As a part owner, I think he cant speak about his "employees" weaknesses because that can affect to their job opportunities..

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

Now we just need AleksiBs view of things and we in Finland can forget this sad drama part of our CS History and we wont be remember as a bunch of crybaby drama lovers in the E-sports scene... As we shoot hard and fight harder, Gl ty please end this "tasty" drama and let us focus on real things

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

and thanks Allu for standing up like a man.

[@tabull8180]

Funny thing that Allu did not give anything away in this interview. He said that "we underestimated Aleksib's social skills" and "I sometimes was not the best teammate, sry lol". Meaning that we are still waiting for any explanation or information about why Allu decides to burn Ence to the ground.

[@d4xni728]

Just have to say that team liquid need to replace grim with autimatic

[@Mallerlipski]

That could be something

[@iProsenjit98]

I don't understand Why Ence benched Alexi.. And after that things went terribly wrong for ence.. I'm not blaming allu.. But Everyone except him leaving / Benched in ence.. He know atleast some part of it for sure

[@TheSkyrux]

Allu misunderstood. Everyone hates him because he kicked aleksi

[@albinforselius2381]

Bringing that tweet up during the show was stupid. Allu litterally just talked about not Reading forums or chat for a reason and you just show that tweet from nowhere and expect a reaction? Thats pretty shitty, all love to god allu❤

[@MarkoLomovic]

Wrong that is exactly what they you should do. He went to the show into the hot seat, if he wasn't ready for something like this he shouldn't even came to it.

[@albinforselius2381]

@@MarkoLomovic segej being unclear in his tweet makes People blow everything out on allu. Obviously not all his fault as People seem to Believe.

[@MarkoLomovic]

@@albinforselius2381 Exactly and he had opportunity to respond and he didn't. It wasn't just sergej it was sunny and xseven.

[@albinforselius2381]

@@MarkoLomovic yeah true i guess, but he wasnt ready thoughh

[@MarkoLomovic]

@@albinforselius2381 That is the whole point, he can't just wiggle out of it with planned response and he shut down because it was bad for him. When he didn't say it sunny tweeted how he was betrayed by him not telling the truth.

[@deneuve5090]

Hes kinda famous for being God/Bot allu so his ego built up crazy Rip

[@torsyenlee2920]

Allu spoiled 2 teams in a year - Ence and Faze, well done

[@hidingman3578]

Bit new to cs, in what way did he spoil faze?

[@taavilahti8240]

Explain it to me or I think are sad guy without point

[@okleon]

@@hidingman3578 there was a rumor that Allu persuaded NiKo not to get Aleksib. At that time FaZe really needed an IGL. But here Allu says that he told NiKo, Aleksib’s strengths and weaknesses and NiKo said he wasn’t a good fit.

[@hidingman3578]

@@okleon Oh that's what it's referring to, ok thx a lot

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

@@okleon AleksiB again mentioned, every problem includes Allu and AleksiB and you are only blaming Allu?

[@tipushehreyar8055]

First 10 seconds of the video and Allu already downplaying Aleksi's IGLing, what a loser lol!

[@burritopadre7590]

Wtf r u talkin bout. He praised him and admit that kickin aleksib was bad move.

[@tipushehreyar8055]

@@burritopadre7590 Read the comment again numbnuts I said Aleksi's IGLing, which Allu just glossed over and went straight to his impact outside the game. Ence stuck to using Aleksi's strats loooong after kicking him, no acknowledgement or praise for that.

[@kinuspacemouse1631]

Now we just need AleksiBs view of things and we in Finland can forget this sad drama part of our CS History and we wont be remember as a bunch of crybaby drama lovers in the E-sports scene... As we shoot hard and fight harder, Gl ty please end this "tasty" drama and let us focus on real things

[@maxmustermann5902]

@@tipushehreyar8055 facts

[@theobvu]

I can't blame Allu tbh for kicking AleksiB he was not playing good for them in last months in ENCE so it make sense to make a change its blessing for Aleksi now that he got something to prove like Woxic which brings the best in them

[@chrisvadz763]

45 iq max

[@saratchandrab4384]

Dude, do you even watch CS, just compare the them before vs after......

[@bigguy4002]

aleksib was the leader mate

[@saratchandrab4384]

@@bigguy4002 yup, not the IGL only but he was a leader......small sentence, but definitely big meaning

[@ok-sj7bx]

@@chrisvadz763 It is an honor to be your 45th like.

[@lessan99]

but like, like , like

[@Dasplitz]

Professor is pretty bad as a host. Indifferent, slightly awkward and very low effort to build rapport with allu

[@tabull8180]

Yeah it was sad that from all the podcasts they have done, this one was the one where Spunj wasn't in. Allu didn't talk enough to drag the show forwards where as with Cadian or Threath for example there would have not been as big of a problem. Also maybe Spunj would have asked Allu the right questions...

[@deepankar853]

Good episode because MF SpunJ crybaby wasn't here !

[@kzc2035]

Im better than allu!

[@AB-yf5ei]

No, you're not.

[@kzc2035]

@@AB-yf5ei allu is like amateur player hes not even good lol

[@lucasmartin3969]

@@kzc2035 And he still much better than you

[@ahmadinejadohladimoizad4720]

Sorry to say this but notwithstanding what a nice guy allu may be irl its still one of the least interesting episodes IMO simply bcos I dont want to spend 3 times as much time as the video lasts in order to trynna point out what's the guy saying, that's literally hard to understand him. No wonder he ended up back in finnish not international roster, I got it now. EU fellas just couldnt comprehend what was the info allu was providing them with.

[@fiveleavesleft]

allu not cool man. only thing he can do to redeem himself is join an international team and make it up to the ence boys.

[@Raptorftw]

Allu, you don't "win" a team. You win *AGAINST* a team. Wrong: "We won Heroic" Correct: "We won against Heroic" This is basic English.

[@Tony-qw1df]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rofdfGpvqtOXmJI&ab_channel=WRLD

[@Raptorftw]

@@Tony-qw1df Idk how it's possible to be almost 30, having played half a decade in international teams, having traveled internationally and been in higher echelons of CS where all communication happens in English for the last decade and still having such poor English.

[@Raptorftw]

@Naufal Hafizh 1. No one is talking about perfect grammar. We're talking about basic sentence structure here. 2. Of course you don't need perfect grammar to communicate in CS: I never said that was the case. The point is that it's actually baffling how someone like Allu is still unable to speak English better than this especially considering that he has had to use English a lot during his life. If we compare Natu's English to Allu's for example, the difference is drastic.

[@Tony-qw1df]

@@Raptorftw Because there's no need for him to improve if people understand him? If you really want to talk about great English. Many CS pros who have English as their second language will give you the same result with an interview like this. They're not giving a valedictorian speech. Relax your rectum ^^

[@Tony-qw1df]

@@Raptorftw kzbin.info/www/bejne/rofdfGpvqtOXmJI&ab_channel=WRLD