Why RIVEN is the WORST CHAMPION in the GAME

[@Certified_Unfunny]

"Reddit users are a special... species" Most accurate thing ever said about the internet

[@xKernNie]

Was excited to listen to a focused 34 min nerd out on why reddit is incorrect or correct, damn.

[@michasobczak7910]

Man I was so disappointed when he changed all of that nerdy reddit thread to league game 🤮 it looked way more fun ;(

[@Jrip3630]

Hot take, riven should be reworked so that her kit functions like it should in 2024 and not the buggy jank that it is.

[@Real4Vengeance]

Hot take, riven needs an ASU not a rework.

[@Bsebt]

Lukewarm Take: We give riven a hat instead

[@eseltv7050]

@@Bsebt Based

[@geni_fetahu]

i dont think riot is touching riven expect buffing her, easterners love riven

[@brubie7584]

Riot touching riven in any way that aren't number changes or bug fixes would cause an insane amount of backlash. It's the case of too many dedicated players to rework

[@ChesterZirawin]

2:56 and this is why riven mains have the lowest winrate out of all the mains. Not because the champ is weak xD

[@matteomarku7177]

i never played riven but shes outdated, loses every match up does nothing and dies

[@Angrychairr5883]

@@matteomarku7177 yeah ok never played riven but knows everything

[@cautron2]

​@@matteomarku7177riven have 56% winrate in challenger

[@kristianbojinov6715]

​@@matteomarku7177 True the way he 100-0 xin zhao at lvl 1 shows us her weak early game

[@absolblack5629]

@@kristianbojinov6715 isnt she an early game champ that has weaker early than renekton but scales better and requirs snowballing?

[@mech2605]

As as masters applied math student who has quite of experience with this, there are some misleading things with this thread. The author implies that the standard deviation of riven is 1.61 as a reason to say the character is bad. For reference a standard deviation of 1.61 means that roughly 54% of characters perform worse in high elo than she does. So even though her winrate may be lower than other characters, it's still overall better than most of the cast.

[@vinkrilldude]

as a guy in high school who can read, 1.61 standard deviations **below the mean** means she ranks in the bottom ~6% of the "top 25 top laners," which is the misleading part of the thread

[@TheMilchBroetchen]

can u do my homework please?

[@IvarTheBoneless77]

2:57 Wow Riven is so weak, definitely Riven's fault here, Kappie

[@forgedwithsteel]

Alois with the fresh propaganda

[@Desilos100]

That’s what I’m saying. Wild title for a champ that gets a 500 health shield every 3 seconds.

[@NotShantrix]

@@Desilos1004 dashes with little to no cooldown on dashes if used properly.

[@DomenG33K]

@@Desilos100 The post was about statistics not your opinion. I don't like Riven, i think she is very strong. But if you have thousands of games analysed and notice Riven loses more then that is just facts...

[@nikklon3401]

@@DomenG33K its just a fact alois was like top 20 kr with riven weak champ for sure

[@Great_PatBingsoo]

@@DomenG33Kriven has a low win rate because she is played by a bunch of idiots who should stick to malzahar. But with all the animation cancels she is absolutely oppressive to lane against. Her dashes and dps are gigabroken even at lvl 2, not to mention her shield. She is broken af. But so is jax, which I main, so I understand why people will say theyre weak because they dont want the idiot Riot devs to nerf the champ.

[@ea8455]

Camille and Riven mains fighting on whose the biggest crybaby on the toplane.

[@PaladineAvenger1]

the only bigger crybabies than them are kata mains

[@AstrumDeus]

@@PaladineAvenger1 have you ever heard of tank players?

[@PaladineAvenger1]

@@AstrumDeus i'm the tank player myself, ask your questions if you want xd

[@MHD69420]

@@AstrumDeus i dunno what you'r on to but ADC's is all i have to say

[@AstrumDeus]

@@MHD69420 You are right actually

[@alescognamiglio4557]

after death's dance buff i think she'll be good again, finally! Also, ninja tabi is more expensive now which is super good for her

[@sanderbrouwer91]

HES A CRIMINAL! Or hes an absolute genius outplaying your flash xD.

[@tomprairie8767]

probably most informative streamer on earth

[@Bsebt]

TIL Time management mentos, because alois uploads 10 minutes after i get off work if im fast enough

[@Robmek]

maybe the wallhop at 3:09 was over the ornn Q?

[@WanderingHeroZayra]

Editor putting Rayman 2 (or Revolution) OST is the biggest chad of them all

[@ivanng7626]

I for one, would love to see Alois play Atelier games as a change of pace for him and his mental health

[@Maxoule22]

I dont think i have ever seen a Riven lose a game in like 10 years of league

[@fredericobaleta1227]

You had an frustrating experience against aurora/quinn as RIVEN who has 4 dashes, now imagine how is it playing an non mobile champ atm like darius/garen/sett agaisnt this bullshit lol

[@edtheminecraftian]

Proposal: Mundo

[@taop4ipa1]

Or nasus

[@mirramig]

> non mobile > darius Good joke bud wait until darius presses Ghost

[@kristianbojinov6715]

Riven exactly is ultra hard countered by Quinn. Her 4 dashes are worthless vs Quinn e. Meanwhile Darius with ghost has better chances

[@fredericobaleta1227]

@@kristianbojinov6715 yea he has so many chances each 5 minutes with flash lmao quinns W out runs gosth buddy

[@fesantvna]

bro.. ur edditor is insane

[@joelferreiramaia68]

Outsmarted trying to outsmarting 2:55

[@Pavilon0014]

crazy how after a win all the teammates apologized and admit to being toxic

[@sturmnacht8503]

I once had a game where we were all toxic to another until the moment the enemy jgl said 'ff already its too ez' We stomped them immediately afterwards

[@2kamilos146]

Second game was crazy, only top stats on + and blue won the game

[@flatlary]

Finally I can drink water alois thank you for the hydration reminder

[@noneyabusiness7664]

Add a cooldown in between Qs until max lvl or with CDR. That many auto attack resets PLUS movement makes her busted.

[@MikeAsbestos]

Aurora is too safe. That champion is disgusting

[@Szczepanneczek]

finally some riven video 🙏

[@bohomazdesign725]

Her main issue is that she is literally the last AD Fighter champ in the game that didnt get an ability update to make her deal with all the bullshit that we have in the game now which means that while other champions have in their kits effects that cover a gameplay aspects that Riven needs to cover up with item purchases. Examples - doesnt mean that you cant double down on the following qualities): Camille - doesnt need to purchase penetration Kled - doesnt need to purchase anti-heal nor % max damage Pantheon - doesnt need to purchase max % damage nor armour % pen Fiora - doesnt need to purchase armour pen nor healing Aatrox - doesnt need to purchase healing Olaf - doesnt need to purchase healing nor armour pen Jax / Irelia - have mixed damage so 9 out of 10 times they dont need to purchase penetration This means that compared to the listed above champions Riven is starting the game always from behind in utility / effects which is why it feels always so bad to brake even with your oponent. Sure, if you get ahead you snowball out of your mind, but thats due to Riot pushing Rivens AD scaling to absurdity instead of actually updating the champ therefore causing this absolute feast or famine situation for the Riven player and the oponent (Pantheon also used to be like this). My humble shortened opinion about Riven - she is good right now, maybe even nerf worthy, but she feels bad to play.

[@lestonclark2398]

Riven have to absolutely shit on u in lane to be good if she doesn't she has to just resort to splitting and clean up or a big ult flash W where there are other champs that do that something but better her only upside is skill expression...

[@walkelftexasranger]

All of those are Divers (except Camille who is mix of Diver/Skirmisher), Riven is Skirmisher.

[@josebaltoomarnilson4762]

riven has 4 dashed and 2 hard cc, her kit is fine, its her numbers that have to be low due to how absurd her kit is

[@bohomazdesign725]

@@josebaltoomarnilson4762 lol, her 4 dashes cover less ground than Jax Q while being one of her damage sources meaning she wastes damage while gapclosing. Also her numbers are not low. Her AD scaling on Q (50% - 70% per rank ability) is pretty decent. The fact that you dont know that tells me that you have no clue what you are talking about. Having that said Im going to shock you know. Belveth has longer range dashes on her Q while having 4 of them with basically no cooldown in late game without being forced to buy ability haste and she has 100% AD scaling on them and her dashes can crit and apply on hit effects :) Rivens kit is not absurd by modern standards. In fact her kit is probably on the weaker side if you compare her to modern champs.

[@Calabacho]

@@bohomazdesign725 Riven can dash more than a belveth late game lol

[@libertybelllocks7476]

ALOIS going to the Super Server to take on Xiao Chao Meng. Thats why he gotta get "in shape".

[@sgtmaggi]

7:46 was hella confused for a sec lol i was like "bro what are you trying to lick?"

[@walidhentati2727]

I remember around patch 6 or 5 there was a bug for riven q ir cancel automatically without doing the trick

[@amirtaktouk555]

I KNEW the music in this video sounded reallyy familiar, it's from a crash game but I don't remember exactly which one, maybe mind over mutant?

[@TheWanHui]

1:17 Fudge n’ Mentos

[@MrRebelion79]

2"56 outplayed 😂😂

[@bra1N2k11]

Love the Rayman soundtrack ❤️

[@christopherfrka2716]

i love q'ing in a random direction when i didnt....

[@Nunyachuks]

not random... q goes in direction she last walked.... unless you followed this and went a different direction? her e will go towards mouse so easy mixup.

[@muamua69]

@@Nunyachuks no, its a bug since around s13 or 14

[@BHisme123]

I'm convinced Riot wants to kill the game.

[@yellybeam2869]

All I got from this is that Kayle needs a scaling buff. She needs 16 levels (25-30mins of good gameplay) to be relevant while a mini dragon just farms minions and gets infinitely stronger... Has mobility, long range, all skills are aoe and deals true dmg that executes... While Kayle has... Auto attacks

[@kaipubgmobile8698]

Imagine Riven has to match with poppy and other tanks

[@tsap9]

Make her Q cast in the direction of the mouse and I bet the win rate plat and below skyrockets and maybe just give her some a bit more base attack speed so you don’t have to fast Q for what is really pretty minor reward for the effort

[@dragonfire2078]

do u ever choose alacrity in ur runes as riven? if yes when?

[@cboymemes5181]

Please alois more riven games

[@jesperahlstrom4550]

hes going to be an olympian witch these mechanics

[@koulaed]

Game 2 is why I like Alois lmao

[@AdamTheVox]

Secret content? Playing riven till challenger? Getting back in shape? Must be mundo till rank 1, I'm so happy!

[@oscarvazquez3271]

alois, i'm trying to pick up riven, but these scenarios where we are ahead are so unrealistic in my games. Is there any way we can see an up to date game where we are even and find a way to get the w? plz and ty love u

[@oscarvazquez3271]

on riven* lol

[@_VinSi]

​@@oscarvazquez3271Even on riven and useful are two words that can't be in the same sentence, you need to snowball with her. If you find yourself even then look for your wincon in somebody else, maybe your adc/mage is fed, so just play to peel for them, maybe a squishy champ on the enemy team has a big shutdown, try to pick them off etc etc.

[@dariosusu1529]

so, what about that german stream? did it happen?`

[@KinScourge]

More Riven pls Alüiz

[@yamatoko219]

I love your content Alois, but.... *Someone pops all cooldowns and gets away from riven player* Riven player : Disgusting....that shouldn't be allowed! *Riven smashes Q and E add infinium and gets away scot free from anything short of a three man gank* Riven player : Perfectly balanced...as all things should be.

[@fotis3v480]

I haven't seen a vid with such a hyperbole title including Riven since hashinshin with long hair days. I'm old...😂. I remember Riven with red pot start into brutaliser,cd boots and last wish rush...fun.

[@iko8465]

Man i wish Riven Q had a built in Auto reset and not having to do it King of fighter cancel in a MOBA with movement command. Other champions doesn’t have that problem, why it’s only the case for her ?

[@Alex-we9uc]

Whats the song playing at the end

[@lusigia]

Hot take, i prefer riven to be strong than meat monsters like mundo, nasus, garen or any tank with damage for hp or resistances

[@tomekl3476]

"i cant lick it yet" Bro...

[@Oofnes]

complaining about Riven being worst top laner when Sion exists

[@mirramig]

Just make her W shred resistances so theres other playstyles like W max 2nd or new combos that incorporate the shred.

[@direboy]

riven needs a rework with keeping her trait of dashing and making her more beginner friendly. Like remove the need to know secret autoatack trait

[@ineedanoriginalname]

Just make riven a non-buggy character and give her the needed changes that come with it. Difficult to balance a champion when they get more just for clicking extra buttons

[@jarsssthegr829]

Why not go titanic on riven for to add an auto reset to the combo and faster use of passive autos

[@BomberDavi]

It costs a lot and the auto reset isnt that valuable on riven because She already has 3 auto resets

[@kentuckyfriedchildren5385]

As a Yone top main, Riven is the bane of my existence, I literally can't win at any stage of the game, they don't even need to be that good, they can easily 100 to 0 me early game and even if I play safe and farm they still outscale me later

[@ake4736]

Still waiting for a video on flickerblade jax video

[@Ark1i]

Du bist lustig weiter so bro!

[@Nitroxy_]

Riot balance team: Let's go gamble!

[@porkkana9898]

AoE dashes with hard cc and big damage with ad scaling dash shield with AoE point and click stun with AoE ranged execute. Urf level cooldowns. Maybe the best champ in game?

[@_VinSi]

Watch her actual cooldowns, then try to tell me she has urf level cds again. She has those cds because she builds a shit ton of haste, it's so important to build it because her cds are long af, to the point she can't utilize items if they have no haste because of how bad it is to not have cdr on riven

[@porkkana9898]

@@_VinSi Her actual cooldowns with a few items. Q = No CD - few seconds. W = 3s. E=3s. R=Up for every fight. Not like haste items are bad. They're actually pretty much the best items in game.

[@razvanmargineanu]

Why after killing Xin in the first game the experience meter doesnt budge. And you level up to 2 after exactly 7 minions. It seems that killing xin only gave you money but no Xp.

[@comsaqe8744]

Riven need passive magic damage

[@itzamkndo3950]

3:00 why do u predict 😭😭😭

[@Theso-nj4mf]

Honestly, the game just doesn’t suit her anymore. She used to be the most mobile skill expressive snowball champ in the game. Now there are players with instant speed boosts, point and click glide across the map! And let’s not even mention the amount of CC there is to basically negate her biggest strength. Mobility! Assassins pop you in 1 combo, champs you used to be able to crush instantly, are now able to out scale you early on and by the time you come online the game is over. She will shine again, in 2XKO…. Where she belongs. True to her nickname, she will be an exile from League soon too. Sadge.

[@amvgod4786]

Yeah man sure. alternative title: Riven mains crying for another season again

[@djmortebeats]

Editor fundamentals 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@isitreal1947]

Just give riven armor pen as ult passive maybe 10/15/20% and nerf her ad scaling a little and it would be fine she got really frustrating to play after they changed how cleaver and last whisper items count as unique

[@maguc5906]

ENEMY ORNN MIND CONTROLS RIVEN OTP

[@viniiciuslm]

Title is right, Riven is so bad that you actually need decent mechanics to make it work, unlike 90% of the champs.

[@2g4u56]

I'm glad Riven is "underperforming". Riven's "average" performance is to overperform against every champ. Her underperforming right now is really just her being not broken and normal

[@1samsnow1]

!fat will be daily and also since when alois became a rapper he rthyming like spearshot

[@Antonfinger1]

for years tbh i play her every season since season2 or 3 meta is high dps or mixed health or max heath dmg/ hybvrid dmg if u cant heal or tank alot while doing alot of dmg you are useless she needs armor pen or tankshred to be viable again

[@koulaed]

You had me at "kiss me in the face"

[@Cat_are_cool7]

Riven is the worst champion in the game: Casually kills Xin Zhao in 3 seconds at lvl 1 Yeah, buff Riven

[@firstname9845]

Silver

[@MercurialDecree]

Riven is unplayable. Honestly, just delete her. By far, the most annoying AD fighter in the game. Kit is buggy, but still broken in the right circumstances, yet she, in general, is not crazy strong until she is. She's not to to play with, against or as.

[@MrVonzine]

So without watching, why exactly is Riven the worst?

[@thestix1906]

Riven is without a shadow of a doubt the strongest top laner in the game she beats every single champ with ease exept the obvious like fiora poppy maybe olaf maybe a jax the maybes clarifying that the champ is so overpowered that someone like jax who denies autos and does massive dmg with that to, loses to an aa champ, olaf because his ult is disgsuting the obvious one. My main point is that her q aa q aa q aa combo is the most disgsuting in the entire game has no counterplay and is strong at every game stage this wouldnt be a problem if riven didnt have the msot brainless ult like having a missing hp scaling on r that basically acts as an execute against champs that do not build massive amounts of armor like ornn or a garen with w again riven has a single combo that deletes every single champion (obvious the ornn doesnt but you get the point), and on top of that she has a literally 5 second q if i remember it correctly level 1 which you stack your passive last second q and you have 5 seconds q even if you build steelcaps again it does jack shi because she has r and w which guess what deals very balanced damage early game oh and on top of that she has negative cooldown e w too oh and the e has a shield too even more funny is that riven is the user of eclipse the cheapest brainless item the only reason this champion isnt gutted is because no one plays her shes clunky and looks disgsuting base design but lets say you do play her and you are not at least masters while being otp that is just a skill issue. For as many games that i played against her bad player good player its the same brainless gameplay where she runs you down and you cant do anything about it literally poppy is the only champion that can solid beat her and have the upper hand

[@thestix1906]

the champion is literally an abomination level

[@UltmateDaniMAster]

editor ❤️

[@ivogada]

Make Riven passive %hp dmg and give her E or R %pen like Darius or Pantheon ez fixes that could be tried in PBE

[@K_Petar]

Im no Riven main but I think Riven is "bad" because shes too hard to play in low elo. At least in my experience. For example when i play Sett and Chogath my 2 mains i just turn on some music and play braindead and focus on warding mostly as the "hard part" but when I play Riven i need to completely focus, be ready to mash my keyboard for the perfect combo, and I think out of 30-40 games i played on her i maybe won the lane 2 times, every other time i get solo killed once then dived 9 times or I just go equal with the enemy and get outscaled. Shes imo the worst top laner for low elo.

[@saftigebadewanne5650]

He only looked at high elo stats. In low elo she doesn’t suck THAT much (depending on what low elo means for you) because you can just get fed on anything realistically. And a fed Riven is a strong Riven even if you can’t play her

[@K_Petar]

I completely disagree. I think a fed sett is a good sett even if you cant play him, a good darius, garen and simpler champs that can 1v9. Trust me i know IV been silver most my time playing now my peak is Plat 2. Im low elo hardstuck and Riven can rarely carry because like I said she's too hard for low elo players. Why bother mastering her and hitting every combo just to get a kill when you can play something braindead like sett, walk into enemy team and 1v9. Riven is rly bad in low elo unless you're a smurf but thats not in dicussion any champ is good when ur smurfing. ​@@saftigebadewanne5650

[@xetaxero]

21:22 😂😂

[@austinhampton7999]

People who flash to ks bother me so much. Fundamentalist

[@hallucinusgaming3283]

Aurora's name 😂

[@MellowMelo7]

I've seen enough buff riven

[@ibrahim5463]

just give her max health scaling on q and all the problem will disappear, but the redditors will still complain anyway since that is what they do best

[@Calabacho]

Broken champ with multiple challenger otps surely

[@iatemyshoe.617]

Give her WHAT

[@justrose4905]

@@iatemyshoe.617 unkillable riven tank ;3

[@ibrahim5463]

@@iatemyshoe.617 why are you suprised, almost all toplaners have some kind of max health damage

[@OmarAhmed-b1r]

​​Giving a character max hp damage does not mean that he is good against a tank, as Viego main he has max hp damage but he is bad vs tank 😂. The only one who deviates from this rule is Rhaast. Also, giving a character only true damage does not mean that he is good against a tank, because he simply can build hp. If you want to be a strong character against a tank, you must give it to him. max hp damage and true damage and healing to ignore tank damage, and the best 5 anti-tank characters, in my personal belief, are 1 - Fiora 2 - Rhaast 3 - Gwen 4 Vayne 5- Lillia​@@ibrahim5463

[@alexandrudrekaru-solo8789]

Man when you unleash the wisdom u just dont stop. Like u talk and talk and omg...:)))

[@rzxd1]

riven lost to renekton so hard they needed to giga buff her. and now she still losing to renekton and blow up everone else

[@skelet8337]

You know Riven loses hard to cho gath ..... need i say more.

[@Emj2679]

Anytime I face a riven I just pick nasus and chill under tower.. riven is just to annoying of champ to play against

[@NAPOLEON44421]

Hi pls do some fundamental videos for new commers

[@mxrtyrer7954]

Riven is the most infuriating top laner to play against for me. Not bc she is strong, i just really despise this playstyle of "dash + cc + e" and then get back out to wait for the next cooldown. And then obviously if she gets fed, being aoe one hit in cc or her just perma dashing after 3 items is just not fun to play against.

[@firstname9845]

Just pick one of the billion champs that stomps her? You aren’t vsing high elo rivens so you should stomp

[@mxrtyrer7954]

@@firstname9845 like i said, they are not strong. I mostly win the matchups. But its a shitty playstyle to just poke and run all the time, because she is so fcking mobile. Like a yas that just e's in, q's u ince and dashes back out

[@ricardorodriguez8497]

Bro starts the video about how reddit is special then immediately fails to to interpret basic statistics :D Homie, League players are special, no matter where we congregate. It takes a special breed of soul to voluntarily queue in this game.

[@devianalvis2178]

day 2 of Urgot climb !!

[@Slimnz-89]

I'm a low elo player so my opinion is basically irrelevant. But I've always hated riven. Lot's of mobility, Lot's of burst, Lot's of sheilding

[@coolbrotherf127]

Riven is good in theory, but she gets absolutely destroyed by all of the ranged top laners and many of the brusiers. Play Riven into Vayne or Urgot and you won't be having a good time.

[@wardonvoid9598]

Play Darius into vayne or sett into vayne or voli into vayne or illaoi into vayne ??? What does that even mean bruh. Riven beats anyone that doesn’t rush armour and even then can still win with conqueror stacked and Ult

[@kristianbojinov6715]

"Play Riven into her bad match ups see how it goes" ass comment. Riven players are ready for when the mental gymnastics make it to the olympics

[@coolbrotherf127]

@@kristianbojinov6715 I'm not a River player. I'm the guy beating all the Riven players with Vayne and Urgot. She has basically zero range on her abilities and the Q is on a 13 second cool down level 1 so she has to get early value off of the ability or she just gets poked out and can't contest for early lane pressure.

[@kristianbojinov6715]

@@coolbrotherf127 "Pick riven into her terrible matchups see what happens." So far it's what I said previously as well. Pick Mundo or Kayla into riven and see the same as well

[@_VinSi]

​@@coolbrotherf127Her q isn't on a 13 second cd only at level 1, it's on a 13 sec cd the whole game, it doesn't decrease when you put points in it, but people will still see a riven use q every 3 seconds, ignore the 100+ ah she built, and say she has no cds

[@sedarium5307]

League of legends subreddit is either filled with stuff about proplay or filled with people that have the worst takes ever

[@aramtopaloglu1415]

Riven for me is a briliant champion but you can't do much without knowing much, for instance you can get crippled by a Sett which is does nothing but AA But you have to do Q to start fight First AA to open passive Second Q maybe to dodge his E and second AA and third Q to stun and open Conquerer third AA W E to get shield for his W and bla bla bla after a fight of 20 seconds sett becomes a winner XDDDDDDDDDDD

[@brocolive1950]

Proof that riven sucks : 16:29 : lvl 13 riven with R gets statchecked by lvl 12 quinn without R in a melee fight with equivalent items, without any kind of outplay from quinn.

[@PongsiriHuang]

XD nice bait