Alpha 20 - How To Get The BEST Loot in 7 Days To Die [Check Pinned Comment For Update]

[@IzPrebuilt]

Naturally, TFP Updated the game the day after I made this video. Experimental Alpha 20.1 included some loot changes. The short version is that most of this video is still accurate but: -Tech 2 was shifted from 80 to 100 -Tech 3 was shifted from 118 TO 190 WTF -The ideal loot stage was moved from 262 up to 289 -Loot chests were massively reworked and the loot you get from better End of dungeon loot chests was made INSANE -As an example I got to LS289 and opened a T5 Hardened chest and here's what I got: =4 Stacks of 9mm ammo, 1 stack of shotgun shells, 5 gold, 5 firstaid kits, 9 timed charges, 2 nailgun schematics, 1 pocket mod, 1 pocket mod schematic, a WEAPON MOD BUNDLE BOX, a level 6 robotic drone and a level 6 steel sledgehammer. This kind of loot is actually fairly low-end compared to the other chests I've opened. Most of the LS289 EODs now have acid, 2 level 6 weapons/armors, some valuables, lots of ammo, a few schematics and a random bundle.

[@Haxior5506]

😲

[@makishae9811]

That loot is bonkers, just wondering what day was that on?

[@missteach9853]

This is so helpful! Thank you so much!

[@So98902]

what's the dungeon?

[@a0zero556]

i didnt understand when i reach age3 can i still get age2 tier 6 weapons?

[@orthochronicity6428]

"Shamway boxes will give you a brain hemorrhage". This is a common misconception, it's not actually the shamway boxes but each seed and rotten flesh looted from a Shamway box that has a small chance of causing a hemorrhage; it's in the game file with the tag "player_irl_bleed". Accidentally looted some of these last night using R instead of dropping them and promptly passed out and hit my head; I am now zombie.

[@andrehashimoto8056]

What is with those Shamway boxes and getting such ridiculous debuffs/effects because of the damn loot?

[@brodriguez11000]

@@andrehashimoto8056 : Shamway is good for those that don't want to get into farming. Add in traders and one could go without it, even though I got a lot of farm plot bundles in early airdrops.

[@rembrandtshadows]

lolz

[@Dimumouto]

You CAN max out Lucky Looter by lvl 10. 4 points from the tutorial quest - Perception 5 Lvls 2-5 for 4 points - Perception 7 Lvls 6-10 - Lucky Looter 5 You'd be lacking in survival/weapon perks, but if you're rolling in loot in the wasteland, that could make up for it.

[@valkasolidor6727]

Good point. I may have to try this out for a challenge.

[@shdwfxgamerz7667]

That's usually the first thing I lvl up then mother lode and the one that goes with that can't remember the name but with those four skills maxed out it's pretty much easy mode till you hit the 5th or 6th horde night

[@Hellraiser_Sr3]

doesnt lucky looter not have a very good effect until you already have a high loot stage tho? why would it be something you focus on early? at level 10 with max lucky looter your loot stage would be roughly 12.5 in a forest, but at level 40 with max lucky looter and in a forest, your loot stage would be roughly 50, so the higher your base loot stage, the better lucky looter is so you shouldnt focus it early

[@Dimumouto]

@@Hellraiser_Sr3 It was more of an observation than anything. IIRC, he said you couldn't max out Lucky Looter before lvl 10, so I did some quick math. Also, I would HOPE that LL adjusts as your gamestage increases. Seems like a logical thing to do for a perk that works like that; it reworks its calculations every so often. Also, LL would be great for a no crafting playthrough. It wouldn't be optimal, but it'd be interesting to say the least.

[@whimsicalchronicles8798]

@@Dimumouto interesting thing to note is if you take a forgetn elixer you effectively lose the 5 skill points from the tutorial quests

[@juancarloang]

Ah, I get it! I'm currently at a very high level, with a base loot stage of 273 (when I stand in the middle of nowhere on the Forest biome). So that means that, at my current loot stage, it's pointless to risk my neck out on the Snow or Wasteland Biome, I can get the same loot from the Forest Biome as I get from those others! Thanks for this!

[@BartanTirix]

Super informative! I know it seems minor, but at 4:14 -ish, color coding those numbers just makes things so much easier to keep track of. Seriously, you are wonderful at explaining and teaching this stuff 🧡

[@IzPrebuilt]

Glad it was helpful!

[@johnj.petersoniii9617]

Thanks to you I made a craft base in the forest biome and a horde base right inside the wasteland. Ya rock Brother. Thanks again fer the info

[@IzPrebuilt]

Glad I could help!

[@RulleTheSkool]

This is quality content. Thanks for using tech to avoid confusion. Your consideration for the player is why I watch your videos

[@josephphelps5213]

Your videos have inspired me to play insane for the first time. I'm getting chain killed by fetch quest POIs with ambushes I can't avoid, but other than that, I'm enjoying the experience.

[@SubconsciousGameJournal]

I love this. Excellent job reverse engineering TFP's secrets. I knew they were adding more "risk vs reward" playstyle options, but now we know exactly what we're gaining. Letting risky plays pay off adds some serious replayability to a game that already got tons with the new RWG. Now I'd like to see an additional modifier for difficulty if there isn't already something like it in play.

[@itsnetts]

The Game Stage controls the amount of zombies and special zombies in hordes, so you technically already have a difficulty modifier. The higher the game stage, harder and more zombies in hordes at least. Idk about the world itself, but I feel like by day 20 I'm getting bears in the city a lot more frequently even with difficulty level default, or the second from the easiest.

[@frudi]

One minor correction, since they have become hard to come by and everyone wants to know where to get them, so they might get false hope from the video. Pop n Pill crates will NOT drop beakers or acid any more! Beakers are now only found in destroyed chemistry stations, chemical sets/piles and air drops.

[@IzPrebuilt]

Noted. I'll add this to the corrections when I fiddle around with A20.1 because they made some changes to loot, literally the day after I made this video :(

[@frudi]

@@IzPrebuilt I didn't know there was A20.1 out already when I wrote my reply earlier. I updated and went to double-checked if they changed beakers in A20.1 and sure enough, they added them back into Pop n Pills crates loot table lol. Guess they heard all the complaints how beakers are too rare now :) And they've also added a bonus items group for T3-T5 end-loot chests, and that bonus item group also includes the beaker. I think those bonus items are supposed to prevent finding empty or almost empty end-loot chests at very high loot stages, which started to happen in A20.0.

[@Jasonwolf1495]

Honestly I'm glad they made it harder and take longer to get rarer loot. The game dies off pretty fast if you just get everything by sheer luck of loot.

[@redarcher3599]

damn! thank you for making this. I'm definitely making some new strats in a clean playthrough now with this in mind.

[@GunsNerdsandSteel]

Great vid man, very thorough!

[@Quint1975]

Superb vid, really helped me narrow down game choice of biome and tier quests vs my limited gaming time to make progression at reasonably good rate.

[@madmommy]

Actually very easy to understand when you broke it down. Nicely done!

[@fernandoperez5064]

Great info! Been playing for years and just learned this from you lol..

[@Fierysaint1]

When your loot stage is high enough go to the wasteland and bounce from car to car searching. You'll get good sellables quick.

[@mikekollross8810]

Level 5 & 6 power tools galore

[@brodriguez11000]

I noticed traders, loot boxes, and some airdrops, give good rewards even though the same item sold regularly is much lower, which I suspect is set by the crafting level set in the skill tree.

[@wowiwon8828]

thank you thank you thank you! this is what I have been wondering about when trying to get higher quality gear

[@slowdotmotion]

Always appreciate the hard work and math you do in your videos.

[@maestro2266]

great video, now i know how loot finally worksss!!!

[@tmullet]

Perfect vid, thank you so much for the info!

[@user-c4b9b]

xD someone please tell the devs that EOTech on that hand cannon is mounted backwards 🤣 Great video I'm actually having a bit of fun in this janky ass game!

[@steveelsner1406]

Sorry to say, this was actually useful. Even noobs like me can hit level 60 without a huge amount of play time.

[@CrabClownJimmy]

Bro, I stay impressed with your quantitative skills. Keep up the good work. AND BY GAWD PRODUCE AN AUDIO BOOK ALREADY!

[@havic2259]

My question: Can you Loot Stage yourself out of getting certain loot? If my Loot Stage gets too high is there loot I will never get? If I want the Bacon and Eggs cooking recipe and I don't find it early on, will it only get harder (or impossible) to find as I progress?

[@IzPrebuilt]

Yes you can lock yourself out of low tier items, it only really happens up in the 190 loot areas *but* bacon and eggs schematic specifically should be immune to this.

[@frudi]

To add to what @@IzPrebuilt said, most tiered schematics have multiple loot sources you can find them in, only some of which use the tiered probability tables. Other loot sources ignore those tables and use fixed probabilities instead. So for most schematics (maybe all, I haven't checked that thoroughly), you will still find them in some places regardless how high your loot stage gets. For instance, Spear Hunter perk books are in the T0 perk books group, which means they'll stop showing up in places like Crack a Book crates, book shelves, filing cabinets etc. after loot stage 65, because all those use the tiered schematic loot tables and can drop all types of schematics. But they will still drop from Savage Country crates, regardless of your loot stage, since those can only drop a small subset of all schematics and specifically don't use tiered loot tables for those. This also works in the opposite direction, to get some schematics that normally require higher loot stage than you currently have. For instance Tech Junkie perk books are in the T2 perk book group, so they only start showing up in tiered loot containers at loot stage 80+. But they can drop from Mo' Power crates right from loot stage 1, because, again, those crates ignore schematic loot tiers.

[@brodriguez11000]

One can always vest in the Master Chef perk if one can't find schematics.

[@crapsound]

Ooookay...I'm subscribing, mainly for that accent. I love it. XD Plus I love 7 Days to Die.

[@xAnAngelOfDeathx]

Great video, thank you. Liked and subbed.

[@outerentity]

Very helpful video thank you very much.

[@troyh3628]

"Sham-way boxes will give you a brain hemorrhage." and I died from laughing.

[@KamuiAlmighty]

So to get the best loot during a horde, you have to set up a base in a T5 POI in the Wasteland. You can exploit this very easily, for various situations.

[@DustedAsh3]

Didn't think of that... I'm gonna go test it.

[@blainebickle1178]

Hey, I have an idea for a video I'd love to see. Your ideas for end game goals a player can set for themselves, since there is no end game right now.

[@blainebickle1178]

@@chrishubbard64 those are generic goals most people go for, but I was looking for more creative and specific goals to reach as an end game goal.

[@HappyAspid]

Thanks for the info.

[@RSNightRogue]

What lootstage do i need for tech 2? I would prefer a pump shotgun over an autoshotgun since it feels it has better hipfire accuracy over autoshotty

[@IzPrebuilt]

80 is when pump enters the loot table.

[@SighClops201]

Great video 👍

[@morotr_co]

Great breakdown, Prebuilt! One question I’ve had since playing in A20 is how these new loot mechanics seem to interact with the Loot Abundance game setting. I usually play on a private server with a group of friends, and in previous alphas we always maxed that setting because we’re all a bunch of loot goblins and the default setting just didn’t provide enough to go around for our tastes. Now, for a completely anecdotal statement with no evidence to back it up, in A20 it seems we’re not just getting more loot, but also better loot earlier with this setting raised. I’m wondering if it was changed at all, if it’s just a side effect interacting with the new loot system, if we’re just very lucky, or I’m just off my rocker. If you happened to see anything related to that when you were digging around, I’d be interested to know.

[@IzPrebuilt]

As far as I'm aware lootstage and loot abundance should have no real effect on each other. One is about quality and tierr while the other is about quantity.

[@Mark101dg]

@@IzPrebuilt Are you sure about this? I increased my loot abundance to 150% and found 5 wheels on day one as well as 2 acid and a crucible schematic. I was dumbstruck.

[@IzPrebuilt]

@@Mark101dg Yes I'm sure. Neither wheels nor acid are lootstage locked and crucibles schematics are found extremely rarely in construction related containers at any lootstage. The word abundance literally means quantity.

[@mikekollross8810]

Just did a tier v quest in the waste land. Checked my loot stage. 419. I think I’m good. ;)

[@thepiemonk8]

Awesome video! I do have some confusion, still, though. I know that gamestage is based off days survived as well as level, and I have heard that loot stage is just game stage plus those modifiers. Is this true? Or is loot stage not affected by days survived?

[@IzPrebuilt]

Lootstage is completely unrelated to Gamestage. Previously lootstage was gamestage but the 2 values have been seperated.

[@Fluffi_Bunni]

Fun pimps have broken their game from screwed up loot drops to structural integrity issues, it's completely broken. Hit boxes are still screwed up. You'd think after 9 years they might get this stuff fixed rather than adding more stuff that's bugged after day one

[@ryanm2533]

If ur buddy has lucky looter and higher lootstage, should u let him loot the whole poi and u just fight?

[@ozarinsky]

Had me laughing at "Shamway Crates give you a Brain Hemorrhage".

[@woulez]

I've started playing the game after the alpha 20 patch release and I'm curious if you'd be willing to make some sort of list of which foods are the better ones to procure and cook, in terms of acquiring the ingredients, the number of ingredients, acquiring the recipe, cooking time and the stats of the food item itself.

[@ladybug591]

Hi there Wouex - The 7DTD WIKI has a section on all the foods and their stats - Go to the Home Page and choose the heading "Lists" - perhaps you will find that very handy because one cannot tell what the stats are until the food has been cooked. The Wiki is great for that sort of thing. Hope that helps. Regards to all.

[@dominikspieler5308]

With the "Look here" Code done as comment correctly in the file - do you have a tec Background? Business informatics man here

[@LordGrim1313]

So in terms of loot/difficulty it's 1. Forrest 2. Desert 3. Blizzard 4. Wasteland So in my recent game as a level 10 or so character jumping into the city in the wasteland was a pretty bad idea. lol

[@ironarkq579]

So, Horde night is over and im about to start looting the bags the zombies drop; is worth using eye candy, loot goggles etc? My friend argues that the loot is set when the bag drops, and using eye candy etc. does not improve the loot in the bags that the zombies drop.

[@ironarkq579]

Would the eye candy matter, if i used it before i killed the zombie? Or what is the case?

[@TOjo_38]

Sick Videos

[@shrimplomein6509]

Anyone else miss the old hunting rifle model? Looked and felt like an old school hunting rifle, versus looking like a homemade hunting rifle lol.

[@TheWarmotor]

Hadn't seen the holo sight before, just noticed it's on there backwards. Derp.

[@VRStuz]

Can't wait to start setting up in the wasteland biome from now on

[@labintatlo13]

The wasteland is super scary. One time I went and there were so many birds, new puking zombies everywhere, and worst of all I saw a random demolisher that was just wandering around. I was around level 30 I think.

[@MajesticLawnGnome]

Same I love the challenge of it building a nice fortress out there

[@kadewiedeman3127]

@@labintatlo13 and the bears. Don't forget the endless amount of undead bears. Like wtf why did all the bears in the country decide that was where they should chill after getting zombaids?

[@thegemguy1334]

Is the loot stage only affect the quality of loot? I have seen many high tier main stash have just 3 items in them and very rarely have more.

[@IzPrebuilt]

Yep, quantity is unaffected by lootstage. if you open a t5 chest and get a couple of things it was just bad luck

[@-JA-]

Thank you.👍

[@John-dp3lo]

Just to be clear, once you are level 262 all the bonuses and biome modifiers don't matter anymore?

[@kadewiedeman3127]

Yes, that is the case.

[@IzPrebuilt]

It would mean that yeah. If I interpreted the loot templates correctly which I'm certain I have.

[@pjs5340]

Well explained

[@Stebo1212]

If say one is past the point of getting Ak im lvl 200+ is there still a way to get Ak and ar for eg ?

[@IzPrebuilt]

they'll still drop but they'll be less common than when you're lower level

[@Stebo1212]

@@IzPrebuilt Thank you it's being over a week of playing none stop 3 of us in a dedicated and still not found but long as there still a chance I'll keep going amazing videos BTW tyvm

[@IzPrebuilt]

@@Stebo1212 you can also do lower tier quests to get lower tier rewards, for example the AK is a reward from some tier 2 and 3 clear jobs (and fetch/clears) and you can always craft them too.

[@JeffersonRedeyes]

But how do you get the best lute?

[@IzPrebuilt]

The Bards College of-course.

[@MajesticLawnGnome]

Lol

[@MajesticLawnGnome]

Bottle of a acid you out there? I just want some tires 😂

[@mortisCZ]

No it has ran away with my beaker that I had to wait until day 47 to spawn. :-D

[@StrifeA217]

my last couple of play thoughs I just had too buy the chem station out right because even if i had the skill to get it early I cant find any acid.

[@gehan2320]

How to re read the modified XML content without quitting the game

[@PatrickMettchen]

The game crashes everytime my brother or I go in the wasteland. The console open and can't be closed anymore. Does anyone have the same problem or a solution?

[@alexhall5458]

What happened to the TNP streams?

[@IzPrebuilt]

They're in a playlist you can find in the playlist tab on my channel :)

[@paxcu201]

How can I get stage 6 weapons and Tools? I can only craft stage 5

[@ladybug591]

Found in loot as far as I know - you cannot craft 6.

[@JustanOlGuy]

How many years to level 262...?...

[@skrillec1223]

the 4x4 truck is painfully slow and trash, they should change it. 2 birds are aggroing me and i cant drive cuz the truck weighs 5 grams

[@IzPrebuilt]

truck moves at the same speed as the motorcycle

[@brodriguez11000]

@@IzPrebuilt : Does the supercharger mod change anything?

[@oddball6969]

doesnt the cigar give better loot?

[@IzPrebuilt]

no

[@danzloblaha]

Loot goblins go go go !!! D:

[@Raven-Blackwing]

Don't get me wrong, I am glad we got a better system then the one in A19, but did the dev really need to make this complex.

[@IzPrebuilt]

Complex? Noooo.. there's only a million things to think about.

[@StrifeA217]

@@IzPrebuilt I feel like its a good driving force to get out of the forest biome and into other arias of the game.

[@andrehashimoto8056]

man... be glad it's at least well rounded logic..... that WORKS.... not like failout 4 and 76 where you can get... a RADIATION DAMAGE ONLY gun with the "Extra damage vs Ghouls" perk attached (failout ghouls HEAL HP when under radiation), or PZ where if you set loot type frequency/availability a bit it ends leading to stupid results (sure, let me turn the oven while i prepare my food.... only to find somehow that oven had PROPANE TANKS stashed inside, cue my would be base for the night burning and attracting every zed in the city) or many games with RNG based loot stashes containing shit that makes no sense for either my level and/or biome (hello Evil within 2 and me getting an explosive bolt in the gas (flammable gas) fille segment; hello me playing Prey 2017, desperately in need of some Health kits, only to fin five SG packs.... when i am near dead and having no more space or need for SG ammo even)

[@Cam-sl8ve]

A cannae believe it!

[@AverageBrodie]

Is it petty that it bugs me that the EO-Tech style sight on the magnum is on backwards? 😂

[@IzPrebuilt]

Ofcourse the sight is on backwards, TFP made it.

[@AverageBrodie]

Maybe they'll fix that when they buff the spears.

[@remyxremus]

This was a Tech 3 level video

[@DevinHebert]

I miss when you would say my name at the end of the video

[@IzPrebuilt]

I prefer videos not having to be 20 seconds longer for a part that *everyone* clicks off

[@mezcallll]

so what you're sayings is, the axe is the best melee weapon ?

[@brodriguez11000]

Club weapons early on. Sledge if one's going for the strength.

[@nephalemd3654]

So, forrest biome is new "stone age" now? I don't like this.

[@IM024]

tech 4 commander EXP

[@mindbreaker2415]

A level 10 player in the wasteland is a dead player.

[@IzPrebuilt]

hardly

[@shadowrypre]

I have been living a lie...the mustache...IT'S FAKE?!

[@enkidu3k]

Lol the brain hemorrhage comment

[@scottwilliams7726]

To slow

[@userxkxmgc]

kinda stupid how t4 and t5 quests give you best items i got a lvl 6 steel pickaxe today just from a t5 quest

[@WafelixRox]

So you're telling us high risk shouldn't be rewarded with high reward?? What supposse to be in reward pool in your opinion on TIER 5 quest?? Stone axe and pipe weapons?? Da hell dude..

[@shad885]

$$$$

[@FACEBOOKS-WBDS]

I have played over 150 hours( days) and my game stage over 2000 and i still get crap all the time

[@IzPrebuilt]

Gamestage is capped at 720 in Alpha 20. Also gamestage has no effect on loot.