2004 Saviors Of Kamigawa Box Opening = The Recession of Magic The Gathering

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[@AttilasWarZone]

This video just popped up in my feed, and when Rudy said "we'll never see a return to kamigawa ever" I thought he was being ironic, not realizing this was released over 4 years ago.

[@EskizoideCollectibles]

Came to say the same xD

[@mark5617]

Kamigawa will always be my favorite block. The story was amazing and the cards were very unique. Dont care what the masses say there will always be a soft spot.

[@damiendunbar5114]

Anyone watching this in 2020 during quarantine? This was recommended to me

[@spencerschultz7642]

seeing he pulled the 60 dollar oboro and tossed it in the rare pile -_-

[@jacobclark288]

its me, 8 months later, still in quarantine

[@thevuze5963]

I just pre-released

[@marcmarc1967]

Nice to see the peak of Magic artwork, before they all started looking like screen-shots from a video game.

[@eluherrahaz1165]

On point man

[@jarrybryant718]

That is so true

[@HazmanFTW]

Rduy is actually doing a line of coke when he smells the cards, he just wants you to think he's smelling the cards.

[@sullysosavage365]

I mean he is in Florida lol

[@dragonballtalk8527]

He crushes up mdma and flakka and coke then makes pills and sniffs those

[@dragonballtalk8527]

@@sullysosavage365 flakka coke and mdma

[@1u5e-Y]

I just started playing Magic like 4 months ago, and am enjoying it so far. Being born as a half Japanese/American, I love the Japanese theme, and the art style.

[@j.g5542]

american is not a race its a nationality. people need to stop using the word american as being white or black. and yes I am assuming that is what you meant

[@1u5e-Y]

You are correct, American is not a race. In Japan, they dont call you white, they call you American. I live and work in Japan, so it just slipped. My bad.

[@j.g5542]

okay I understand a bit then. The only reason why this triggered me is because I work and live in South Korea and if I try to tell some people I am american (My ethnicity is like 75% asian ancestry and 25% white ancestry but I look more asian) then they won't believe me or look at me weird because the perception is that Americans can only be of only white or maybe black ethnicities

[@xunknownqcx]

@@j.g5542 I love Bok choi and still i am a Taco face race !

[@gosisthebest]

kamigawa block + ravnica block = golden age of mtg

[@virtuazoso]

my sweet summer child

[@AdamGuite]

Actually Rudy, Sakura-Tribe Scout is not only a pretty good card, but due to it's play in recent Amulet Titan decks in modern you can sell them for 2 bucks-a-piece. Also on the financial side of things, that box was pretty flippin' great!

[@domri4203]

I'm running them in a mono green list with tracker, Excavator, Courser ect

[@JasperJanssen]

At 396 C a box and 55 commons (and not yet any land on the C sheet, afaict) you should get about 7 of each common, give or take the variance. Variance on commons is gonna even out pretty quickly at the booster box level already. 55R, 55U, 55C, sounds very much like they were using factories outside Belgium at the time that were not capable of 121 card sheets, only 110 card sheets. These days the sheets for rares at least pretty much universally work out to 121 (15 R1 mythics and 57 R2 rares), so the factories outside Belgium must have been upgraded. That, or they’re printing all the rares in Belgium and only using the overseas plants for U and C?

[@awestrich2172]

Thank you Rudy, I love Kamigawa I've been begging wizards for years for a return

[@Sealdeam]

That's what I used to think but as far as lore goes the story of the block had a pretty definitive ending and at least as I am concerned I would prefer it to stay that way rather than having the ubiquitous Super Friends come to an interesting place and taking centerstage with their forgettable blandness; and as far as the game itself is related I don't trust them enough to think they will fix what did not worked the first time while at the same time keeping the good and unique aspects that it had, not unless Dr. Garfield is involved in the design which only happens every few years.

[@桜場娃夜]

Love Kamigawa too. What you say here is definitely true, I'd also like a return on Kamigawa, but not with the Gatewatch/Bolas story which I hope will soon come to an end. An Umezawa's return on their original plane could be interesting.

[@rokmare]

Knowing wizards they will find a way to ruin that block as well.

[@tyranids4ever]

Not while Rosewater is in charge.

[@alexhurlbut]

Rok mare mtg.gamepedia.com/Rabiah_Scale#cite_note-OrigRabiahPost-3 1-10 (1 most likely to return, 10 not a chance in hell) it's a 8 and that make me sad.

[@lolkthnxbai]

that old school foiling is beautiful, I have a foil simic basilisk I found in my collection and the foiling on each of the eyes and the head just looks fantastic. I compared it to some Dominaria foils I got, makes them look terrible.

[@StonedMonkeyProductions]

Rudy just gave his age up. This puts him somewhere from 32 to 35. I'm shoot for 33, just cause Rudy has got that born in 85 vibe.

[@bartenderbobmtg9809]

Kamigawa block was one of my favorite blocks in MtG. I actually made decks AND sets with all the boxes I bought. I also loved the original Ravnica block

[@justin00521]

The kamigawa set is my absolute favorite of all of them

[@topherdale]

I loved the Kamigawa block (it still stands as my favorite block), I bought the 75 card tournament packs (which I still have 4 of). Loving the video Rudy!

[@Sutekh94]

I'm still hoping for a Return to Kamigawa set. I know, wishful thinking, but my nostalgia demands it.

[@MintChocDoublin]

Sutekh94 i want to visit murganda, but know it's a pipe dream

[@kryptickodex3846]

I think it would do so much better nowadays.

[@s.i.rjewel828]

They're doing an innistrad revival so I could see it at some point, it's to good a theme to ignore and they only need some minor enhanced mechanics and support to make this set a hit, I say split the mechanics off between ninjas and samurai a bit but also have a bit of good intermingling (exp. Tree folk/fungus) between the two that can work synergistically given the proper card effects but also take more of a dive into japanese mythology

[@kryptickodex3846]

@@s.i.rjewel828 that would be ideal!

[@banaanuitdeboom4784]

You got your wish

[@TheEmperorGulcasa]

Kamigawa is my nostalgia block. Really got into magic around that time. The books for it were also my favorite, with a great cast and a pretty cool storyline. It really is a shame they totally overcosted basically everything in the block.

[@howgamer365]

Love OG Theros. Also here we are in 2022 returning to Kamigawa, incredible.

[@Galbieth_]

Hi Rudy... so it seems we're going back to kamigawa

[@kirkstevens4103]

I think I still have the prerelease cards from that block. It came right after arcbound/disciple of the vault combo and maybe some mindslaver shenanigans. Two moments I remember from the prerelease's... Guy fogged me out using akki coalflinger to fog my normal damage step, played wrong and judge ruled wrong. Next having Meloku, Clouded Mirror and opponent does too, yet his made 2/2's while mine made 1/1's lmao play cards as they read, even if know it's a misprint, was ruling by judge on that one. Good times

[@alibisbystorytellers]

Kamigawa was always my favorite, it was the first block I bought when I started playing and it was the first novels I read when I got into the lore. Nostalgic favorite, but still I always enjoyed it!

[@MTGUnpacked]

Great artwork in this set. I don’t think I’ve ever seen this opened on KZbin before! Fave would have to be the Gnat Miser. Who’d argue with a rat shaman?!

[@Zestmistergamer]

my all time favorite block, the kamigawa series, where great artwork, tribes, and storytelling goes hand and hand :) ty rudy for this box opening

[@Doddleran]

The art is by far what I miss the most, thank you for showing this!

[@pme1967]

Hey there Mr AI...what is your opinion of sealed SOK boxes for the next 10-20years? Worth getting or is that $$ better spent of Avacyn or the Mirrodin blocks. Thanks!

[@Jerome...]

Complain there is no value in commons, loot 2$ mint common is first pact.

[@xaer0knight]

yep That Tribe-scout! there are good cards in the set, people look over them because they aren't expensive or tournament. quality. I think the whole block is best for Casual 4-8 player games, some mechanics are great with 4+ players. Bushido is up there with Flanking and Shadow, all great for white weenie decks.

[@AlexanderBalchev]

I'm amazed by the US prices.

[@AllanHathaway]

The art is AMAZING to me! All of these cards look awesome! I kind of really hope we do end up revisiting Kamigawa. I remember being a kid and seeing the boosters at Walmart, thinking they looked really cool. It was just a little before I started collecting.

[@overlordcacius]

Man this was one of the coolest blocks from my childhood.

[@MeriadocMyr]

Same here, I started around this time. Currently have a 5 colour Kamigama spirits EDH deck.

[@valkyriesprites420gtx3]

In just starting magic my first set is dominaria

[@alannielsen4099]

Valkyrie sprites 420 gtx congrats welcome to the game :)

[@kevinornduff3363]

The Kamigawa block sucked compared to Mirrodin and Onslaught. At least if you were playing Type 2. Cool art though.

[@evilgary747]

This block came out, what? A few years ago?

[@JoeyMossBBG]

The filthy, nasty, and disgusting things I would do to Liliana..

[@IgnisMorgan]

Bad Boy Gaming this is why im subbed to you

[@JoeyMossBBG]

Sempre PLA

[@HanDaimond]

She seems to love doing nasty stuff.

[@ericsmith1937]

Bad boy I'm a fellow follower of ur cha

[@sempre8135]

PSA*

[@Car_Ram_Rod]

It will never happen...many moons later. "I was wrong"

[@TheRobe-]

I first got into Magic with this set. It’s still my favorite, although AFR is a close second. I can’t wait for the new Kamigawa to drop.

[@shauntothemaxx5639]

Been waiting for one of these. Man. Love Kamigawa block. Got in just as Champions came out. Played all the major archetypes of the sets. Had so much fun with it. Great stuff.

[@jaredpetersen7343]

I really want those X-Men Fleer boxes :)

[@ms.sysbit5511]

People hate Kamigawa ONLY because it followed Mirrodin. It was a low power set following a steroided juggernaut. Considering the popularity and overlap of anime fans with mtg playerbase and the popularity of Tamiyo(her home plane) I think we’ll return pretty soon tbh.

[@francescospuntarelli7369]

Ms. Sysbit steroided juggy ahahah funny.

[@jellyfrosh9102]

As long as Mark Rosewater is in charge we won't return. He seems to think they can't return to this set and make it work.

[@xunknownqcx]

Jizz in my pants

[@mr.cuddlesworth3144]

Think we'll still get a Kamigawa set in the future?

[@Chaosmancer-jq2st]

I love legends, stronghold, and Mirrodon. The good old days. Miss them.

[@markustedsen7539]

Just found this channel and i have to tell ihave collected the whole Kamigawa Block with each card 4 times, i was so crazy for it i could not sleep well until i had all the cards i needed, bought full boxes on a weekly base.

[@KoRnJester]

I really liked Kamigawa because they tried something different. Also really liked the art.

[@jonathantillian6528]

Rudy, I don't know if you read these, but are the Fleer X-Men and Spider-Man card sets in the background worth anything? I've got about 3-5 years worth (including chase cards) sitting somewhere.

[@Tarkov.]

Man, that flip card is even weirder than most of them because it goes from a creature to an enchantment.

[@CommanderSoe]

I started playing MTG with Mirrodin back then and I really like the Kamigawa Block a lot! In this time I was totally into Anime (Detective Conan, One Piece and Dragonball) and this set has fit perfectly. I also read the lore books and I liked them a lot.

[@ernestocastrejon2378]

Hello Rudy. I've been following you channel for a while now and I was hoping you could answer a question. Im planning on buying a time walk but im therrified at the possibility of getting a fake, reputable stores in sites like tcgplayer could be the best place to buy one? I was thinking maybe they could get a fake mistake. what are your recomendations?

[@sullysosavage365]

I loved the Kamigawa block! Betrayers was the set that I really got into Magic. The Nezumi are still my favorite race in Magic!

[@vauk5081]

You just took me back to my college years. I was a super weeb back in the day and LOVED this block.

[@ralki15]

The artworks in this set were awesome. Artworks today don't look the same anymore as it used to. Card quality is really nice, better than today's card quality......

[@vidbeppe]

Kamigawa cycle: simply the best artworks in 30 years of MTG.

[@FreneticZetetic]

I yelled "BUSHIDO BLADE!" just as you said it, Rudy! 90's kids unite.

[@justinm9937]

How can we buy boxes??? I want a couple boxes of xmen!

[@yubelsgaurd]

this is a huge flashback. this set and the splice onto arcane mechanic was when i first came back to magic

[@JACKx0FxSPADES]

WHAT WE DO HERE IS GO BACK BACK BACK BACK

[@andrealmeida5408]

I have have nothing but love for this block. I loved the lore, the artwork and the mechanics. 10/10

[@Pandahboymtg]

I picked up a lot of magic cards from a friend. I traded him some video games for over 6,000+ cards. There weren't many rares but I got 90 foils which one was a $25 lava spike, Kiri-Onna, throat slitter and lots of cards from kamigawa block and original mirrodin block. I have 35 of that Sakura-Tribe Scout that are at about $3 each on tcgplayer. Also 2 Thran Dynamos from urza.

[@BrokenKhorik]

This is one of my favorite sets personaly. I had such a wicked snake tribal deck from the kamigawa block. Oh how I miss that deck.

[@leeread1234]

People just didn't connect to it, I don't think they will ever return to Kamigawa. Roll on 2022 ROFLMAO :)

[@jamespanter1686]

I was living in Asia at the time of this sets release. I drafted it in Chinese. Loved Ninja decks. Ornithopter was in the set and shuriken. You’ll never love a deck as much that wants to attack with ornithopters.

[@TNTales]

I really love watching the unboxing of sets like this because I don't have 200$ to drop on a booster box. It's really cool.

[@mrawesomesocks418]

With the mention of Bushido Blade, my respect for Rudy just skyrocketed.

[@1234573332]

Fun stuff, Erayo is auto banned in almost every commander group because of it's ridiculously easy to trigger ability, no lie it was one of the first cards on that ban list

[@tromb2ch2]

I really liked the ninjutsu mechanic. Boshido was fun. This set when it came out wasn't exactly the best but at the time the price for a box was low (so it sucked) which allowed us to draft the crap out of it. Super fun for drafting.

[@KelvinTrading]

I don’t play magic but like youre video’s and appreciate the artwork of the cards.

[@Rucarlos]

A few good ones, great quality, but most of that block was garbage sandwiched between 2 of the most iconic and historic blocks of all time.

[@r3ikobomb]

I would love a revisit as long as the power level would be closer to what it is now. I also think there is a bigger acceptance and understanding of eastern culture now.

[@masuzun6546]

It feels really nostalgic. One of my favorite sets back then.

[@chrisgaus7594]

those X-men cards hit me right in the childhood

[@FennaDG]

Kamigawa's cards are so unique in their design, and its the set I was first introduced to as a kid. It will always be the best block.

[@WaketheSheeple]

I loved this damn block. The artwork was so badass and the cards were fun to play. I thought I read that these sets were getting a remaster

[@420Pikachu]

Thanks for taking us back Rudy :)

[@whitegod9810]

I always love the asmr rudy throws in when he smells the card

[@ladiesman2048]

Hey Rudy what are Prerelease boxes and why are they special?

[@xtieburn]

People didnt dislike it because of its theme and such, they largely disliked it (As far as the groups I was around were concerned at least.) because it was somewhat resetting the power level after Mirrodin blew everything to hell. It was... so-so as a set, but Invasion, Odyssey, and Onslaught had been raising the bar, Mirrodin snapped the bar in half and set it on fire, then Kamigawa came off as an attempt to fashion a new bar going forward and was pretty forgettable as a result. I could understand someone coming in to Magic liking it a lot more, or someone just plucking it out of history to look through, but if youd been playing through set to set at the time it really was a bit... 'Meh'.

[@tekplays5366]

rudy, do you have any alpha booster packs?

[@chip_n_dip7940]

“If she looked like me, no one would care.” -2018 Rudy, from Alphainvestments

[@MrDvd05]

ive been watching you open boxes for like the past 24 hours and then you post another... good...

[@FluffyAbsol]

I started and played mostly during Kamingawa.. Even read the damned books, of all things. Good times. Would love to go back to it.

[@AUZZYNAPALM]

rudy, i'd love to see a video of your sealed box room. but i also understand not wanting to show the public exactly what kind of $ you have within your home. but, please? lol

[@Exiron64]

Kamigawa is my fave set Rudy thanks m8, I made my crazy ass spirit deck because of it

[@TripsAhoy]

Man I used to love those old marvel cards!!! I gotta have so much of that shit packed away in the attic somewhere. Used to love the foils and all the weird inserts!

[@nebucanezar]

Actuqlly I like the theros beyond death set. I love the card art the extended art cards. A set doesnt have to come with a big price tag for me to like it. Midrodin and darksteel are up there on my list too!!

[@elder7365]

i love these chinapeople btw, thanks ben you crazy lad. kamigawa was my favourite block and i dont have the money to spend so much on a box. this took me back to a time where everything was nice and easy. loved that opening.

[@elvesrus]

If I'm remembering right, when Saviors came out I was driving 40-80 miles to play LotR tcg. Davis or Berkeley on alternating Sundays, Redwood City on Monday nights. Had really stopped caring about being competitive, even at the FNM level, while Odyssey was still newish and had basically cashed out for Decipher games. Still had a janky zubera deck just in case ;) Moral of the short story is you always have some sort of deck for those times you get the itch and wish I still had the collection for Rudy to fondle. Nothing too exciting at the time, mostly nostalgia from 4th to Apocalypse.

[@xaer0knight]

the kamagawa and ravnica got me back in for a bit. the only sets where i actually bought fat packs for.. i mean bundles. the last set i went nuts before that was Mirage block and Urza... took a break after Masques to invasions and Ravnica to Scars, id get archenemy and a few parks of scars. Dominaria maybe a set where i'll get another. I would of enjoyed the first innastrad tho.

[@heartlesslucas7781]

Giving you a like just from the Bushido Blade reference near the end.

[@RizzyWow]

Those Marvel comic boxes look incredible!

[@xunknownqcx]

Marvel sucks

[@efstopp]

I started with Betrayers and I loved Kamigawa, when standard was KAM/RAV. Kamigawa had some issues, those flip cards as an early attempt at two cards in one weren't a winner and there were few stand-out great cards. However, Kamigawa block's greatest sin was Mirrodin. Kamigawa had nothing that could deal with Affinity and because of that and because WotC took way too long to ban Affinity, standard sucked for the first half of Kami's standard rotation. KAM/RAV was sooo fucking good though.

[@me0262]

Bushido Blade 2 was where it was at. Amazing game from Squeenix.

[@backlashD]

Never understood the dislike for the double faced cards. I like them so much more then the flip cards, today. How was it confusing? I understood it the first time I looked at it. They're so much easier in sleeved decks.

[@eduardogalindo5364]

Rudy if I buy a box of the new 2018 corset off of you will you open it on one of your videos let me know

[@dementionX]

Kamigawa has been a topic of demand by fans to MaRo on blogatog. There's definitely a crowd building to return to Kamigawa, and seeing that lore-wise we could be approaching the end of Ravnica, I don't see why we couldn't go back to Kamigawa as a filler arc.

[@animafallen]

Kamigawa was when I first came in to the game and I still really like the set. It unfortunatly came out between original mirrodin and original ravnica. Still a fun set.

[@golDroger88]

Loved Kamigawa when it came out but as you can tell from my avatar I'm biased. Lots of interesting art and lore. Dunno why it was received poorly.

[@owb1430]

why the jump in 4th edition booster box's?

[@Yurikan]

Okay, I have to ask this, but did you and MTGPurple collaborate on Kamigawa? He did a video on the Kamigawa block talking about the legendary stuff and then you had a box opening of Saviors. =p

[@deanpinkham691]

Those tribe scouts are $2 each. I saw an o-naginata or two and those are around the same. There’s 5 rares worth $10 or more as a nonfoil. 2 of them were opened in the first third of the box. The financial value isn’t there like it is in say innistrad or world wake but there’s some ok value. The only reason boxes are $200+ is because of age. You’re not going to make your money back on a box unless you pull a foil oboro. Then you’ll probably come close.

[@kennyyulius2879]

mark could you showcase your expensive or collection magic cards, i bet everyone would like to see that

[@Mr.Titanic]

Great pulls! Oboro, Michiki, Sakashima - amazing box

[@BigBig5]

Dominaria card feel is similar and has a ink spell that I remembered from sets many years ago.

[@wiartalexandre9349]

Just for the record , the most expensive card in the set is Oboro, palace in the clouds. Sakashima was a geat first pack tough!

[@Azriel_6]

I technically started playing Magic in original Mirrodin, but I only started loving Magic during Champions of Kamigawa.

[@andrewtaylor3167]

I was curious, so I did a quick dawnglare price check for relevant cards (Ignoring foil status, so that'd just add to the value): 1 Sakashima the Impostor 22.00 1 Pain's Reward 3.90 2 Kagemaro, First to Suffer 1.51 1 Pithing Needle 6.63 1 Mikokoro, Center of the Sea 12.37 1 Sekki, Seasons' Guide 4.24 1 Maga, Traitor to Mortals 3.41 1 Kami of the Crescent Moon 1.98 1 Erayo, Soratami Ascendant 7.55 1 Kataki, War's Wage 3.63 1 One With Nothing 1.98 1 Meishin, the Mind Cage 1.57 1 Kaho, Minamo Historian 2.20 1 Oboro, Palace in the Clouds 20.21 1 Choice of Damnations 4.04 1 Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker 11.10 3 Hand of Honor .93 2 Locust Miser .76 2 Manriki-Gusari .75 1 Ebony Owl Netsuke 1.46 3 Footsteps of the Goryo 1.58 2 O-Naginata 1.96 10 Sakura-Tribe Scout 1.77 9 Freed from the Real .87 That adds up to $151.29 on May 10, 2018.

[@snakemont]

Those where the times....of stores, friendship and tournaments!

[@asladan7566]

i ate at burger king today and i had chicken nuggets, fries, coke and garlic sauce

[@jasonblahafitness6349]

The eternal boomer strikes back.

[@ickyy]

kinda regional, but they are disappearing from California if not already gone :(

[@araceliestrada9159]

IcKY what are you talking about I work at a Burger King in the Bay Area and know of many more in the area.

[@ickyy]

I was actually talking about Long John Silvers LMAO BK is everywhere

[@araceliestrada9159]

Oh yeah Long John Silvers are rare but there a few. They've always been rare though.