The muon-powered, universe-bifurcating, random number machine

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AlphaPhoenix

AlphaPhoenix

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@melody_florum
@melody_florum 3 жыл бұрын
Him just punching random numbers into a calculator, getting a syntax error, and continuing to punch random numbers sped up is way funnier than it should have been
@himselfe
@himselfe 3 жыл бұрын
I believe my local supermarket uses this process to decide where and when to place products.
@mrmurpleqwerty4838
@mrmurpleqwerty4838 3 жыл бұрын
They actually put the "staple foods" (i.e. bread, milk, eggs, sugar, etc.) as far away from each other as possible, so that you spend more time looking at stuff you wouldn't normally buy, so that you're more likely to buy more stuff. This is what causes you to go to the supermarket "just to grab a loaf of bread" and come back with a trunk full of groceries.
@mashmachine4087
@mashmachine4087 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, but the numbers rolled in this video are no longer random, because they were recorded and will come out the same every time now.
@Rotem_S
@Rotem_S 3 жыл бұрын
They are what defines this branch from different ones though
@chalkeater1427
@chalkeater1427 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rotem_S nothing defines any branch from any other; everything is completely random to an infinite degree. In this way, everything is the same. In an infinite amount of trials, something unlikely will happen the same amount of times as something likely. It’s like an infinite number of $20 bills and $1 bills.
@scrambledmandible
@scrambledmandible 3 жыл бұрын
@@chalkeater1427 What kind of chalk do you like to eat? I like the blue kind
@Fidder492
@Fidder492 3 жыл бұрын
@@scrambledmandible Personally, the white ones are better. My family thinks it's cocaine when it's actually chalk.
@dimosk7389
@dimosk7389 3 жыл бұрын
true...but only in OUR universe ;)
@niemand262
@niemand262 3 жыл бұрын
Q: How do you make a truly random number generator? A: Bombard a planet with sunlight for billions of years.
@mrspeedrunwastaken1348
@mrspeedrunwastaken1348 3 жыл бұрын
technically my dude, it'd be mostly star light or black hole radiation actually. :nerdface:
@shoof_5839
@shoof_5839 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrspeedrunwastaken1348 i believe he is talking about sunlight which birthed life on the planet, and in turn birthed random number generator - generating humans :)
@billyumbraskey8135
@billyumbraskey8135 3 жыл бұрын
every planet gets bombarded with sunlight lmao
@niemand262
@niemand262 3 жыл бұрын
@@billyumbraskey8135 I invite you to try and prove there aren't teslas on every planet near a star.
@mutantcube1737
@mutantcube1737 3 жыл бұрын
Technicaly speaking there is no true random, it may be unfathomable to be able to predict the outcome of the response, but it is still technicaly possible. Also humans aren't random either, every action you take can be predetermined, and could be predetermined from the beginning of time. With enough computing power you could predict the end of the universe and everything that happened during the universe, from the moment the universe began with 100% accuracy, because physics is absolute, and every reaction and interaction that occurs is bound by those same physics Edit: I've finished watching the video and I've found that he covers exactly what I'm talking about here, however I find that the explination given doesn't make much sense. Now I would love to explain why but im not typing out a 3 page essay in a comment reply section, so ill just leave it at feel free to ignore this message.
@Monkeyshaman
@Monkeyshaman 3 жыл бұрын
It's okay to admit you built a thing to show all your quantum physics memes.
@liggerstuxin1
@liggerstuxin1 3 жыл бұрын
I respect the flex though. Most couldn’t care less how things work and exist.
@crazydog3307
@crazydog3307 3 жыл бұрын
is it really possible to show all possible quantum physics memes?
@spacedoohicky
@spacedoohicky 3 жыл бұрын
@@crazydog3307 The device may be universe bifurcating. So maybe he did in other universes.
@gama5942
@gama5942 3 жыл бұрын
1000th like
@Monkeyshaman
@Monkeyshaman 3 жыл бұрын
@@gama5942 to me it is tuesday.
@satyajeetjena6758
@satyajeetjena6758 3 жыл бұрын
It could be a prototype for Divergence meter. May the choice of steins gate be with you. El Psy Congroo.
@fgvcosmic6752
@fgvcosmic6752 3 жыл бұрын
This is definitely a Beta worldline
@fwa8590
@fwa8590 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, this is me. It seems that the organisation is at it again. Don't worry though, I already my move to. This is all the choice of Steins;gate. El Psy Congrooooo
@rimmertf
@rimmertf 3 жыл бұрын
i am mad scientist
@anameaname2042
@anameaname2042 3 жыл бұрын
A divergence meter would require a baseline reading. You would need many gravity sensors.
@TheJunky228
@TheJunky228 3 жыл бұрын
My first thought as well
@Garbaz
@Garbaz 4 жыл бұрын
Props for using no Arduino (or any microcontroller at all)
@AlphaPhoenixChannel
@AlphaPhoenixChannel 4 жыл бұрын
*made by the discrete component gang
@Monkeyshaman
@Monkeyshaman 3 жыл бұрын
*relearns what a gated IC is* _y-yes._
@vikingursigurdsson
@vikingursigurdsson 3 жыл бұрын
Well what's wrong with microcontrollers?
@annaw.1951
@annaw.1951 3 жыл бұрын
@@vikingursigurdsson Nothing, really. They're just so ubiquotous in DIY electronics projects on KZbin these days that it's nice to see a project that doesn't use one.
@matthewe3813
@matthewe3813 3 жыл бұрын
@@annaw.1951 Thats why I like ben eaters 8-bit breadboard computer project a lot.
@someusername121
@someusername121 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, you can also call an RDRAND instruction on an Intel cpu made after 2012. It uses thermal noise in the chip to produce a true random number.
@Malaphor2501
@Malaphor2501 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it was nice to see a Nixie in a project that WASN'T a clock.
@jamescollier3
@jamescollier3 3 жыл бұрын
So random 🙃😉
@midgetman4206
@midgetman4206 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet right? Well time to go make a nixie clock/watch
@mr.0x373
@mr.0x373 3 жыл бұрын
Actually that was a clock that shows the time when a muon hits the tube
@official-obama
@official-obama 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.0x373 only one digit
@philb8437
@philb8437 2 жыл бұрын
@@official-obama well, 10 seconds instead of the regular 12 hours of the round clock, but it still goes round, just many more times in unnamed and unfollowed cycles
@adamstolen4965
@adamstolen4965 3 жыл бұрын
Very smooth execution and presentation. Phenomenal job with putting the random number generator together! If you could make a double nixie tube system, I’m convinced there are some dedicated D&D players that would demand one of these elegant quantum systems to make their game proper.🤓
@vhaelen326
@vhaelen326 Жыл бұрын
i hate to admit it.. but yeah that was my idea aswell, rolling up to a d&d game with one of these, preferable with: 1. more lights, preferably different ones with all the common dice numbers plus a d2 or some way to configure it into such 2. loads of buttons and switches like oh if i switch over this here this is a d6, if i switch those 2 aswell its a d100 but if i only switch those 2 its a d10
@DavidZMediaisAwesome
@DavidZMediaisAwesome Жыл бұрын
This was on my mind the whole time while i was watching (and of course i’m a dungeon master)
@piousminion7822
@piousminion7822 4 жыл бұрын
Make another one that just toggles between 0 and 1 (Randomly) and label it "Schrodinger's Vegan Cat".
@ryuguy032197
@ryuguy032197 4 жыл бұрын
Lol.....Im sure PETA would like that version
@Asdayasman
@Asdayasman 3 жыл бұрын
Then finally make one that cycles through only the number zero for full zen mode random number generation.
@MJFallout
@MJFallout 3 жыл бұрын
Could you explain that please? I don't get it.
@draghettis6524
@draghettis6524 3 жыл бұрын
@@MJFallout After opening the box, the Schrodinger's Cat experiment has two possible outputs, dead (0) and alive (1). This guy suggests to do one machine like the one of the video, but that randomly chose between 0 and 1, making it be in essence a Schrodinger's Cat that don't use a cat, wich make it vegan.
@MJFallout
@MJFallout 3 жыл бұрын
@@draghettis6524 Oh, thx! catfree is the vegan option, got it.
@PretzelBS
@PretzelBS 3 жыл бұрын
I want one of these. Always been bugged how nothing in computers or physical objects that you can hold can be considered “true randomness”
@specific_pseudonym
@specific_pseudonym 4 жыл бұрын
If you made more of these, I would totally buy one.
@TheOpticalFreak
@TheOpticalFreak 3 жыл бұрын
How much would you pay for it?
@iIiWARHEADiIi
@iIiWARHEADiIi 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOpticalFreak quamtum amount of money
@TheOpticalFreak
@TheOpticalFreak 3 жыл бұрын
@@iIiWARHEADiIi was that a joke?!
@iIiWARHEADiIi
@iIiWARHEADiIi 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOpticalFreak yes.
@notquitehadouken
@notquitehadouken 3 жыл бұрын
thrice the price to make it
@Steph.98114
@Steph.98114 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine rolling up to your dnd game with this
@mjrippe
@mjrippe 4 жыл бұрын
I have to say that I love everything about this project. The graphics around the box telling the story of what's going on inside are double plus good.
@OH0PO
@OH0PO 4 жыл бұрын
36 years later and some are still using those adjective forms
@Gunth0r
@Gunth0r 3 жыл бұрын
what does newspeak have to do with all this? :D
@thatoneguyonurleft5338
@thatoneguyonurleft5338 3 жыл бұрын
"The ground is radioactive!" "The sky is radioactive, too!" AAAAHHAHAHAAHHAHAAA
@KlaasDeforche
@KlaasDeforche 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I do not subscribe to the many worlds interpretation but I did subscribe to your channel.
@AlphaPhoenixChannel
@AlphaPhoenixChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha thanks! (Yeah it seems kinda weird to me too but it makes for great sci-fi when you ignore like ALL of the details...)
@matthewcahill4475
@matthewcahill4475 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it defies thermodynamics, creating a second universe out of nothing nah, Copenhagen interpretation for me
@alkestos
@alkestos 3 жыл бұрын
I hold onto the pilot wave. I know it's having _little bit_ of problems currently but it makes most sense to my human mind and _obviously_ I am the center of the universe so this conclusion is only logical. lol
@lollertoaster
@lollertoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Which means you didn't subscribe in the other half of the universes :p
@knaveHearted
@knaveHearted 3 жыл бұрын
There's a world where you both subscribe to the many worlds theory, and didn't subscribe to the channel.
@axaide4210
@axaide4210 3 жыл бұрын
13:20 "using this mill feels like overkill for this project" - guy using the properties of quantum physics to make a random number generator
@isaactrockman4417
@isaactrockman4417 3 жыл бұрын
Best comment today
@sangeethav1247
@sangeethav1247 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Video, haha didn't expect the multiverse editing, that was fun to watch.
@AlphaPhoenixChannel
@AlphaPhoenixChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I certainly had more fun watching it then my graphics card had trying to encode it xD
@dafoex
@dafoex 4 жыл бұрын
There's only supposed to be one dot on the screen or something?
@emanu1674
@emanu1674 3 жыл бұрын
@@dafoex "Oh, crap, are you kidding me? Two dots? This never needs to be more than one dot. The two of you made us uncertain!"
@CyanStudios24
@CyanStudios24 3 жыл бұрын
The visuals paired with your explainations are so well thought out! Absolutely love the parallel universes part
@EgnachHelton
@EgnachHelton 3 жыл бұрын
You should try to build a device driver that integrate this device into your computer as /dev/random
@12-343
@12-343 3 жыл бұрын
But keep around the nixie tube, just for fun.
@kiraPh1234k
@kiraPh1234k 3 жыл бұрын
This device I don't think can serve as /dev/random without some work. Need consant source of numbers at any time, it cannot afford to wait seconds between requests - what do you do if you need /dev/random 13,000 times this second, 4,000 next second, etc?
@nikkiofthevalley
@nikkiofthevalley 2 жыл бұрын
@@kiraPh1234k All you need to do is scale up the area of it. The more area, the more muons you can detect
@stagger9660
@stagger9660 2 жыл бұрын
@@kiraPh1234k just have it backlog a bunch of random numbers and save those number for future use. As one is referenced, toss it away. Place a piece of radioactive material next to the device to crank out random numbers faster.
@unflexian
@unflexian 2 жыл бұрын
believe it or not this actually exists commercially, it's called an HRNG and there are many types using many quantum random process
@enchantedplayer6168
@enchantedplayer6168 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'd really like to see this being sold somewhere, it'd make games really interesting
@thelegend8570
@thelegend8570 3 жыл бұрын
"I swear if this thing doesn't have a nixie tu- YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES"
@ganelonhb
@ganelonhb 3 жыл бұрын
I always wondered how Okabe Rintaro could build a machine that “detects” what worldline he’s on. This it literally it. Lol
@westonslc
@westonslc 3 жыл бұрын
He is future gadget lab member 001, he just doesn't know it yet...
@matthewhubka6350
@matthewhubka6350 3 жыл бұрын
Admit it, you just unplugged the detector to get the one without any numbers getting picked for a long time
@nickkonkle541
@nickkonkle541 3 жыл бұрын
shhh
@ahuman2533
@ahuman2533 Жыл бұрын
Shhh
@idontwantahandlethough
@idontwantahandlethough Жыл бұрын
@@ahuman2533 shhhh
@davidjohnston4240
@davidjohnston4240 3 жыл бұрын
As a designer of random number generators of the sort you find in your CPU, that's a not-very-good random number generator. If you sample fast enough, you will get highly serially correlated data since it's an up-counter with a partially random clock. You use the term "Truly Random" when you should say "Non deterministic". To get to full randomness (1 bit of entropy per bit of data) you need to study up on entropy extractor theory. All the non-determinism in normal electrical RNGs come from quantum effects that lead to electrical noise. So there's nothing particularly special about a Geiger counter based RNG.
@jayjasespud
@jayjasespud 2 жыл бұрын
True random is non-deterministic. This is still pseudo-random.
@LogicalFindings
@LogicalFindings 6 ай бұрын
​@jayjasespud the only right answer in this whole room of pseudo intellectuals
@davidjohnston4240
@davidjohnston4240 6 ай бұрын
@@jayjasespud The term "True Random" is used differently by different people. In all cases it seems to mean nondeterministic but for some it means full entropy and others it does not. Since cryptographically secure, nondeterministic, deterministic, full entropy, partially entropic and other terms like that are vey well defined and accurately define the properties of an RNG, poorly defined terms that don't really match what they mean like PRNG and True Random should be avoided if you want to make your words unambiguous.
@RSHastingsIV
@RSHastingsIV 4 жыл бұрын
So... hypothetically, if I asked to purchase this box off of you, how much would you charge + shipping? Also, how would you go about making a D20 version?
@Randy14512
@Randy14512 3 жыл бұрын
You could have the number counter count up to 20 instead of 9 and have 2 tubes instead of the 1 the circuitry isn't that hard its pretty cool to think of possibly having a toggle to chose what the highest number could be and then beable to toggle between diffrent standard dice
@Sick1982
@Sick1982 3 жыл бұрын
MTG?
@Xeth247
@Xeth247 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, I found the ttrpger. I also would like one. Or 8. In the d2, d4, d6, d8, d10, d100, d12, and d20 type. I knew my quest for perfect dice was not over.
@DarkMetaOFFICIAL
@DarkMetaOFFICIAL 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone ever: True randomness is literally impossible. Fact. Quantum Physics: lol hold my beer/not beer 😂
@errorninja1019
@errorninja1019 3 жыл бұрын
it can also be both in quantum physics
@doctornobody6845
@doctornobody6845 3 жыл бұрын
This isn't true random
@DarkMetaOFFICIAL
@DarkMetaOFFICIAL 3 жыл бұрын
@@doctornobody6845 ?
@DarkMetaOFFICIAL
@DarkMetaOFFICIAL 3 жыл бұрын
@@doctornobody6845 how come
@aloysiuskurnia7643
@aloysiuskurnia7643 3 жыл бұрын
Shoulda been written as "hold my |beer> + |no beer>" lol
@lukaaaaaaaAAAAĀĀĀĀĀ-b7n
@lukaaaaaaaAAAAĀĀĀĀĀ-b7n 4 жыл бұрын
Could you plllllleeeeeaasssseeee show us how to make one? I'd really enjoy making this
@Leekodot15
@Leekodot15 3 жыл бұрын
Well.... I mean, make a tube with a thin wire in it, vacuum it, maybe slap a different gas in it, I don't know, wire that through to the circuitry shown in the video, make a container for it, set the outputs, and uh... work yourself to death trying to figure out what you actually need to do.
@iIiWARHEADiIi
@iIiWARHEADiIi 3 жыл бұрын
Just buy Geiger tube and some sort of counter with the external triger and reset
@jedstanaland2897
@jedstanaland2897 2 жыл бұрын
When I was in the military I proposed a setup for random number generator that used subatomic particals to pick a randomly selected number that was then used to pick a random number of algorithms for a second number to be run through and then that will be your result the order of the algorithms could be determined randomly along with the starting algorithm and you could also make it repeat any number of times you want at random and the whole idea was to introduce as much difficulty as possible to determining the final value and what might have made the whole thing possible is that you could possibly just get it to work on a smartphone of the time.
@OMJames
@OMJames 4 жыл бұрын
I found you with the "tiniest KZbin plaque" video. Glad I stuck around! Really looking forward to what you have to show, man. GREAT editing, and I can really tell you put your heart into your videos. I'll be here for the long-run :)
@AlphaPhoenixChannel
@AlphaPhoenixChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Editing can be a pain but it's also a pile of fun! I love when I get to release a new project - next one shouldn't be too far out. I'm literally right now making final renders out of matlab for a Snake-playing AI... (tell your friends) =D
@Gunbudder
@Gunbudder 3 жыл бұрын
i love a good pure random sequence. there was an urban legend that the random number sequence used in Doom's source code was generated using a nuclear generator. probably my favorite thing is using nuclear random sequences in a completely deterministic way. That is, you get the exact same number sequence each time, but the sequence follows no pattern at all. this can be incredibly useful for various things. it is like seeding your PRNG with 0 each time you use it, but on steroids
@phyricquinn2457
@phyricquinn2457 3 жыл бұрын
Amplification. That is an amazingly intuitive way of looking at quantum measurement that I had never considered before!
@Rotem_S
@Rotem_S 3 жыл бұрын
The next step is noticing amplification is associated with decoherence, and voila - a nice, logical (and completely rigorous, with no further axioms) reasoning behind the many worlds interpertation
@word6344
@word6344 3 жыл бұрын
When the players you DM keep fudging their dice rolls:
@Kellysg126
@Kellysg126 3 жыл бұрын
Please please please post the schematics and plans for this, or sell them. Id love to have one
@PotatoBoiYT
@PotatoBoiYT 3 жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel, and I’ve gotta say, this is crazy stuff to even think about.
@Scrogan
@Scrogan 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, I’ve always pondered the use of a Geiger counter as a random number generator. In fact I’ve got a tube just like your one in my parts box in a breadboard boost converter circuit that may or may not have experienced one too many exciting discharges. As for your use of a nixie tube with an upside-down 2 as a 5, I like your style.
@AlphaPhoenixChannel
@AlphaPhoenixChannel 4 жыл бұрын
The SBM-20 was an upgrade from some really really tiny glass geiger tube I started with a few years ago. Other than making some toasty arcs inside when I got the test source too close to it, it's a great tube! I think I may have too little resistance in series or something to get very high countrates... As for the upside-down numbers, what can I say but I bought the cheapest tubes I could get!
@Scrogan
@Scrogan 4 жыл бұрын
AlphaPhoenix Different GM tubes have different gains or counts/area/second or whatever the metric is. There was a website I found a year or two ago when searching for a comparison between tubes that comprehensively measured a dozen or two of the tubes with alpha, beta, and gamma sources, both solid can and end-window tubes, chances are you’ve also stumbled across it. Really great resource, but I’m the end cost becomes the major factor when choosing, at least for me. I initially picked up the tiny SBM-21 as it was the cheapest GM tube on eBay, but I tried to solder a wire to it and it turns out that the plug in the end to keep the inside at low pressure melted at under 300C, so that ruined that tube. So I bought an SBM-20, as the ends of it perfectly fit a standard fuse holder bracket. The positive end of the SBM-21 is too small for any common size of fuse holder I know of, so I’ve no clue how it’s supposed to be held. I assume you’re also using fuse brackets yourself. As far as nixies go, a lot of the surplus ones around today are of soviet origin, where cutting costs by using the same digit for a 2 and 5 was somewhat common. I personally quite like this, it gives the display a character not found on other displays. I haven’t began a foray into the realm of nixies just yet, but when I do I plan on going for tubes which have symbol versions, e.g. Ω, V, A, Hz, etc. I’m also considering some of those obscure panel-mount electroluminescent displays, since they can be used for alphanumeric applications. From what I’ve seen on Applied Science’s channel, multiplexing EL displays is quite the task.
@AlphaPhoenixChannel
@AlphaPhoenixChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah inside the lasercut wood humps on top of the box I've got some bent-up fuse holders I had to be very careful to not let touch any of the screws I use to hold it together lest I zap myself with 400V... I have also noticed that nearly all ebay vacuum tubes seem to come from former soviet states. Kinda interesting
@imdeadserious6102
@imdeadserious6102 3 жыл бұрын
For those interested the special relativity that allows muons to reach the surface is basically a way of describing the fact that in real time (our practically stationary frame) these particles should decay before reaching the surface. However due to traveling at such a high rate of speed they can travel that distance while experiencing less time then it would take to travel that same distance from a stationary frame of reference.
@LogicalQ
@LogicalQ 3 жыл бұрын
Alpha Phoenix is a God. He created RNGesus.
@Leekodot15
@Leekodot15 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, he just created a vessel for him to manifest in that uses the real world instead of the computer world.
@Gunny1971
@Gunny1971 3 жыл бұрын
Well done. This video really made me think. The quantum made visible (in a way) and a reference to The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy...Solid Gold.
@_badsine_
@_badsine_ 4 жыл бұрын
I love that quantum mechanics can, in a way, be explained with math or philosophy interchangeably. It's a deliciously counterintuitive intersection of thinking.
@AlphaPhoenixChannel
@AlphaPhoenixChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I’d say it can only be adequately described (ie. predicted) with math. Philosophy is just the approximate interpretation from a human brain. When you try to wedge something that’s pure math into everyday life, it just doesn’t work...
@mikhailmikhailov8781
@mikhailmikhailov8781 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say more - Modern Physics in general is a window into incomprehensible through mathematics. The fact that humanity can formulate and manipulate that which it cannot understand is insane.
@officersoulknight6321
@officersoulknight6321 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaPhoenixChannel Man, I wish Philosophy was actually useful. I find this kinda stuff extremely interesting, and I can _kinda_ swallow it, but I’m more talented for philosophical thoughts.
@kingcrimson4133
@kingcrimson4133 3 жыл бұрын
@@officersoulknight6321 Philosophy is useful, just not in a modern sense. Philosophy can be the difference between a life spent in contentment and a life spent in dread. But unfortunately, the modern definition of "useful" is "makes corporations more money", so the viability of important human practices like art and philosophy is tanking at the moment.
@norude
@norude Жыл бұрын
But the time between muons passing by can be completly predicted if you knew their positions before they pass through the box which makes it not truly random. Of course muons get to the box truly randomly, but the cube is also truly randomly in your palm
@Rossilaz58
@Rossilaz58 3 жыл бұрын
You're creating new universes for as long as that machine works.
@T_for_teth
@T_for_teth 3 жыл бұрын
I kind of want a version that cycles between 1 and 20. If we can randomise a D10, we can randomise a D20 as well.
@MichaelRuppe
@MichaelRuppe 4 жыл бұрын
Such a project! And extremely well documented. Love this!
@AlphaPhoenixChannel
@AlphaPhoenixChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This one was literally years in the making! (Granted shelved for most of that time)
@martinwood744
@martinwood744 3 жыл бұрын
The numbers rolled on the die may very well be truly random as there may well be quantum level effects acting on it, which mean that it might land on a different number if it was rewound to the same starting conditions.
@gljames24
@gljames24 3 жыл бұрын
Dice are decently chaotic. I think I'll stick with dice for dnd.
@Ensign_games
@Ensign_games 3 жыл бұрын
this one is better though
@PolarDoc22
@PolarDoc22 3 жыл бұрын
Dice are lawful neutral, change my mind
@alejrandom6592
@alejrandom6592 3 жыл бұрын
This channel deserves infinitely many more views
@ThreeProphets
@ThreeProphets 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most overengineered D10 I've ever seen
@Leo99929
@Leo99929 3 жыл бұрын
I like that you addressed the uncertainty between if the process is truly "random" and "unpredictable", or if we just do not have the scientific knowledge required to predict it accurately yet. It vexes me that the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum physics is tacitly assumed to be the "correct" interpretation, even though there are alternatives that are at least arguably at least equally as compelling such as De Broglie-Bohm.
@PabloRomanelli
@PabloRomanelli 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, please post stats about randomness of the device
@elisanovelo
@elisanovelo 3 жыл бұрын
"your so predictable" "PREDICT THIS" *builds a muon powered random number machine*
@sligovolts
@sligovolts 4 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to watch a new video from you. Thank you very much and happy New Year!
@AlphaPhoenixChannel
@AlphaPhoenixChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Happy New Year!
@dandaigle4546
@dandaigle4546 2 жыл бұрын
once again your presentations, youth, excitement, enthusiasm keep me wanting more and more, ty
@GTRichardson7
@GTRichardson7 3 жыл бұрын
you should find a company to make and sell these! I want one that has multiple Nixie tubes that each would have a different die value, so you have your full set of polyhedrals displayed ( a d4, d6, d8, d10, d12, d20, and d% or d100).
@scottmarshall6766
@scottmarshall6766 3 жыл бұрын
Just a random (ah.. yeah) thought - You could use 2 (or more) events to set the clock frequency, then a another to start and stop the counter, if you wanted to reduce the averaging of time between muon events as a way of predicting the next event. Start at random a counter clock whose period is determined at random, then stop it at random. When recycled, there would be no way to predict the next event especially if you run the clock in the mhz range. You could even use several GM tubes and select the tubes used for the events based on a previous muon event. If you wanted a bigger more elaborate randomizer model. I've been a student of random since 1977 when I built my 1st big computer, a 6502 machine overclocked to 2mhz. True random is much harder than most people realize, but this is one of the better method I've seen. Cool too, using natures random events as an engine. Nice project. Enjoyed the video, thanks!
@SollowP
@SollowP 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect for my D&D games.
@chicken_punk_pie
@chicken_punk_pie 2 жыл бұрын
I need to apologize (to you and the almighty algorithm) because I've seen this video in my feed multiple times in the past but not clicked it. I finally clicked on your Veritasium response a while ago and I'm now watching a bunch of your videos, and they're all fantastic! Wish I had done so sooner.
@dimosk7389
@dimosk7389 3 жыл бұрын
7:40 talking about total randomness, and the device gives 8-9 and then again 8-9...spooky
@dimosk7389
@dimosk7389 3 жыл бұрын
@Michael Darrow ye i understand that. it was just a joke ;)
@satan.is.my.copilot
@satan.is.my.copilot Жыл бұрын
I noticed that too, and I don't understand. Was that indeed random that it did exactly the same thing twice?
@dimosk7389
@dimosk7389 Жыл бұрын
@@satan.is.my.copilot i guess it is. if we are talking about total randomness, there is nothing that prevents the number 8 for example, to randomly pop 10 times in a row. or the number 5555555555 to exist somewhere in the Pi number
@johngalt4657
@johngalt4657 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! More about Muons! Also you should show a how to step by step video on how to build a machine. Where can your viewers buy one? Maybe you should sell them! Doesn't need to be that fancy. No need for special tube counter.
@fwa8590
@fwa8590 3 жыл бұрын
Is this how Okabe built the divergence meter in Steins;gate?
@Cpruett
@Cpruett 3 жыл бұрын
was looking for the Stein's Gate reference.
@FFmax33
@FFmax33 3 жыл бұрын
From Little Brother my favorite definition of randomness is that the fastest way to tell a computer to print the number is just one line of code that says print 142513469205813846... because if you take the 100-200 digits of pi it might seem random but it is a lot faster to tell a computer to find digits of pi and start printing at 100 and stop at 200
@tailez606
@tailez606 3 жыл бұрын
I think a great improvement for this would be to add some kind of memory component. Then, when a random pulse is detected, instead of displaying a value on the display, store the value in memory (or store the time between detections, since that's where the randomness comes from). Afterwards, a user can just press a button and the device will display the oldest stored value and delete it from memory. This can be made more or less complicated as needed, for example by making a system that stores lots of values and can also recall previous random values instead of deleting them, or random numbers for specific dice types (like d6, d8, d20 or others).
@taylankammer
@taylankammer 2 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely amazing. I subscribed after watching some other videos already but after this one I can't understand why you don't have more subscribers!
@tubeDude48
@tubeDude48 4 жыл бұрын
Where's the schematic for this?
@TheRmbomo
@TheRmbomo 3 жыл бұрын
The many-worlds you sequence was very satisfying to watch, thank you.
@TrabberShir
@TrabberShir 3 жыл бұрын
"SOON"* unless I am just filing to see the video in question, you are really milking that asterisk for all it is worth at this point I think. Awesome work though, only recently found your channel, but you do awesome work.
@AlphaPhoenixChannel
@AlphaPhoenixChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Man well nobody watched this video when it was new - there are a bunch of follow-ups I passed on cause nobody cared and making another video after the project was “done” wasn’t nearly as interesting. It’s a whole lot more worthwhile now that KZbin is showing millions of people my thumbnails out of the blue!
@the.gamer112
@the.gamer112 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaPhoenixChannel My best guess is youtube hooked themselves up with a quantum computer XD
@LiMCRiMZ
@LiMCRiMZ 3 жыл бұрын
"Aggressively terrible cold open"? That was the trippiest intro I've seen in YEARS
@ironbeard4627
@ironbeard4627 3 жыл бұрын
I truly want upgraded version. Connection to computer, ability to change the range of numbers, and program that allows you to roll any dice easily. Not sure if possible, but connection to discord bot? Then nobody could say that the "random generator hates them", becouse that would just be "universe hates them".
@Sleeplessmaster
@Sleeplessmaster 2 жыл бұрын
I need 7 of those machines to make a D&D true random dice set
@mojeimja
@mojeimja 3 жыл бұрын
You play with that devil's machine long enough - TVA will come for you and they prune you, just like every other unwanted VARIANT
@i18nGuy
@i18nGuy 11 ай бұрын
What a fun, instructive and inspiring video! Great stuff and very much appreciate all the hard work that went into it.
@garybrisebois2667
@garybrisebois2667 3 жыл бұрын
Two U237 atoms are sitting at the bar. Bartender asks them "how late are you guys staying?" They answer "well one of us probably needs to split within the next 30 seconds, but we arent sure which one of us yet."
@kongqianfu
@kongqianfu 3 жыл бұрын
That casual slow mo scene in the beginning was very cool. I was not ready
@humanperson2375
@humanperson2375 3 жыл бұрын
I had this idea and I'm so glad i found this video. You could use this box to create a name for each universe, use it to identify nearby universes. You would have to have the box and result cause something do the universes arent just copies with different names so i would suggest using an output in a search engine and finding the first link that comes up, then find its creator get incontact, ask them what their job is and try to visit it. That should make a reliably random output, with travel cost, time, location and experience varying between the copies of the universe.
@ZeroEight
@ZeroEight 3 жыл бұрын
found your channel on a KZbin suggestion and I have been enjoying your videos for the past few days. I think you'll hit 1million subs in no time.
@melody3741
@melody3741 9 ай бұрын
The fact you used a nixie tube for this is incredible.
@TheTechAdmin
@TheTechAdmin 3 жыл бұрын
My old job gave us these key fob sized things that would give us a pin number to use for the 3rd door in the building. And I was told that it works similar to this.
@That_Freedom_Guy
@That_Freedom_Guy 3 жыл бұрын
I used to be the assistant to a curator in a big art gallery in Sydney Australia. Yeah, I was the go-fer . Anyway, I got to see some tricks of the trade and I can tell you with confidence that if you placed that gadget on a plain plinth and turned a few spotlights on it in an art gallery...you have a hit on your hands! A modern art gallery or museum of course . I get what you mean when you said it's more of an art piece than anything else. It's really interesting! It's art! 🎨🖌️
@jaycobwhaley3974
@jaycobwhaley3974 3 жыл бұрын
Just discovered you, and I absolutely love the content! This is one of the most satisfying diy gizmos I’ve seen yet 😊
@bronchiel
@bronchiel 2 жыл бұрын
this man is the StyroPyro of a completely different field. 10/10
@alexdacat7052
@alexdacat7052 2 жыл бұрын
Does the number display really have to be that fancy tho
@possiblynova
@possiblynova 3 жыл бұрын
6:25 The Expanse reference is what earned my like, love it
@parmesanzero7678
@parmesanzero7678 10 ай бұрын
With sufficient information about every dimension, I am sure we could actually predict radioactive decay.
@edenironworks2
@edenironworks2 3 жыл бұрын
Tabletop rpg players: "I'll take your entire stock!"
@Mulakulu
@Mulakulu Жыл бұрын
To upgrade this, add memory that stores the randomly generated numbers in a list, and a button that reveals the first number in the list, deletes it and iterates
@HalfInt
@HalfInt 2 жыл бұрын
I am glad you made clear, that it might still not be random, we just don't know.
@dsdy1205
@dsdy1205 3 жыл бұрын
AlphaPhoenix: This RNG is absolutely random. Some nearby supernova: I'm about to end this man's whole career
@Waynesification
@Waynesification 2 жыл бұрын
The events leading to the random count are observable by others. So they can work out the ratio of counts, and back work out your random number stream when applied to an application. So, in past tense, it's not so random.
@MrDoboz
@MrDoboz 3 жыл бұрын
you should put a FIFO buffer into it, so you can get a random number instantly on demand. Would make it much more practical for let's say like a board game. Awesome project btw, hats off to you
@andrewchapman2039
@andrewchapman2039 3 жыл бұрын
Of course if you put the device in an opaque box, you can tell your game master you rolled a superposition of every number.
@NGabunchanumbers
@NGabunchanumbers 3 жыл бұрын
"this is basically spitting out a new universe for every instant of time" is a pretty raw and powerful line
@yteicosf1103
@yteicosf1103 2 жыл бұрын
This is sooo fricking cool. Glad I discovered this channel.
@tehs3raph1m
@tehs3raph1m 3 жыл бұрын
Completely and truly unpredictable *under our current understanding of physics* there's no guarantee we can't work out how to calculate radioactive decay timing
@57boomer44
@57boomer44 Жыл бұрын
I swear the Geiger counter in your video looked precisely like the one I used to test on a weekly basis back in the 70's. Civil Defense FTW!!!
@Khyrid
@Khyrid 3 жыл бұрын
To now make this useable for table top games, make it so it can store random numbers, but keep them hidden. A button can be pushed to show one of the numbers and remove it from the memory. This way all numbers are still generated as randomly, but stored over time so the user can get random numbers on command instantly, leaving enough time for the machine to generate more into memory. Table-top gamers invest a ton into their hobby, they would definitely throw down some cash for something like that, even if it doesn't really change their game experience that much.
@wiktormazur7027
@wiktormazur7027 3 жыл бұрын
I love your channel. It's also nice seeing some crystalography because i liked it a lot in high school.
@baddspella
@baddspella 3 жыл бұрын
just stumbed onto yoru video, love your style, effort and presentation ! subscribed !
@leobasil1
@leobasil1 2 жыл бұрын
"Electronics is as entertaining as it is frustrating"... Truer words haven't been spoken.
@jlong613
@jlong613 3 жыл бұрын
The parallel universe part got me subscribed. Awesome editing.
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