Pro Nuzlocker Race, but they buy their Pokemon

[@cromtes]

If this happens again, there should be a pokemon that, after buying it, turns out to be zoroark

[@bengoodwin2141]

And another one for ditto

[@lavi5802]

And another one for mew

[@bengoodwin2141]

@lavi5802 mew doesn't do that???

[@lavi5802]

@@bengoodwin2141 mew can use transform

[@zecendia]

@@bengoodwin2141 Mew also learns transform

[@AJTower_]

What I absolutely love about this is how much these guys analyze. After the winner finished, they all were so interested in things like “what was your biggest bargain? What did you spend the most on but never use?” It seems like everyone enjoyed the race and it made it a great watch too.

[@tidalwave5422]

"It's the first time I've made content with you, i thought you were just rockin the shitty mic" SENT ME

[@pingvinbromma9451]

Me too lmao

[@Ondas563]

I love the draftlockes, and auctioning Pokémon was a really fun twist. I'd love to see more of this type of video and cant wait for the edited version

[@greedyProphet]

3:31:35 The calm "I have defeated Winona" from Flygon with Drxx just popping off in the background is a perfect pairing.

[@amendersc1650]

The end was truely: “I’m in peace and in charge of my own destiny” vs “FUCK IT WE BALL! FUCK IT WE BALL! FUCK IT WE BALL!”

[@streaksmeargle9785]

Not Kidd calling Decidueye trash and then it coming in mad handy on Whacko’s team at the end lol now that’s poetry. We love to see grass owl succeed This was a great race, can’t wait to see the highlight vid eventually

[@simonarancheva6946]

i don't know how much influence we vod watchers have but this was absolutely my FAVORITE draftlocke, i loved watching the professionals go at it and i also loved your commentary and analysis, i am soooo looking forward to another one in the future! you've got amazing cast, it was such a delight to have so many creators i love in one place. one of the alpharad vods of all time for sure

[@GaugeFullyAnimated]

The kubfu to Flygon could have been so funny but Jan came in at the correct time

[@oscarmeldgaard5407]

Yeah though I'm happy it didn't since it could maybe have made the Flygon's extremely optimal plays throughout the late game felt a bit less strong, and of course the E4 run wouldn't be as hype

[@smargio]

This would be really cool to do for charity. Like obviously start with a reasonable amount of money to be considered disposable for everyone involved and use that.

[@TheAwkwardevan]

Or do it in waves, like a few at the beginning, then when the donation goal hits x amount, start new auction with amount raised split between everyone. To spice it up make all streamers donate at end based of standing. First place is nothing, second is x amount of donation, 3rd is 2X and so on, anyone who fails to complete is 5X. Just to give the streams a sense of urgency.

[@smargio]

@TheAwkwardevan an interesting take for sure

[@TheSpeep]

I was thinking give them a lower cap but anything they bid over that comes out of pocket for charity. But yes, definitely, cool charity idea.

[@oscarmeldgaard5407]

Honestly just making it a streamer thing, with some popular boys, where the donations they get are what is used for the auction could be pretty fun. Though you would need to make sure everyone is around equal level of popularity, or even include some popular ones, with some of the streamers with high skill. So if you can see if it is pay 2 win, or the talented nuzlockers would still do better.

[@smargio]

@@TheSpeep great idea.

[@heyitsjupie]

not Flygon’s audio input being floor mic for the first 30 minutes

[@TheLeftWolf]

Haha after he fixed it being like "oh! So nice to meet you flygon"

[@Bergzbot]

Since Jacob mentioned a good few times throughout this that he wants feedback on this style of content, ill go ahead and mention that i love this. Seeing races and general competitions in games like pokemon or maybe some mario games is a lot of fun. And having Alpharad as the host basically get to just be watching along with us is like grade A non-slop reaction content

[@starlitcentaur]

agree!!!

[@discaredcashmaz7360]

It’s so funny to see the stream that only knows Pchal and Kidd saw they have the best odds. No one knows vanilla emerald better than Flygon and Wacko is crazy.

[@TheWhiteWight]

What better way to be introduced to new content creators?

[@SwanTB]

Flygons bidding strategy was hilarious

[@Amon_Star]

The whole draft nuzlocke has been an interesting concept. It’s cool to see the change when “experienced” nuzlockers tackle this. It is interesting to see their knowledge of the game specifically influence their choices. From the routes they take to the mons they pick up. It’s amazing to me how quickly everyone was able to come up with a plan with new mons in front of them. As I’m sure they were already somewhat team building before/ during the draft.But, I know that they did make use of new Pokemon as well as some staples from previous runs they have done. Looking forward to when this happens again. With either a new cast of characters, a new rom, or a new twist. I think an interesting direction to take this might be a “coaching” aspect. There are examples of this in the Pokemon community. But, as far as the draft it could be that each player has a coach and they share the same cash pool. Each round alternates between players and Coaches (all players do a bid then the coaches it could be an alternating thing or all the players could go through a set number of Pokemon then the coaches do the end of the draft). Keeps the draft fun and there is another layer of strategy and comedy. Having to either get the silly Pokemon you want or thinking about trusting your coach to pick out better Pokemon with their share. Once the draft is over each team has some time to converse a bit. Once the run starts the coach and the player they are matched with play the game. The coach gives guidance on where to go, who to bring,etc. But, for every “important fight” (bosses, rivals, gym leaders,etc) the coach isn’t allowed to give any guidance during the actual battle. So it would be important for things to be discussed beforehand. The no communication thing might be a little to strict (even if it’s only for the important fights) so maybe per gym they get 1 sos emergency time out that lets the coach talk them through a series of plays to maybe make but, after the player takes 2-3 turns they have to deafen(back to no communication for that fight) again. More rom hacks are also a cool way to spice up the formula but, it could be dangerous if they are rom hacks that only some are familiar with. I would personally like to see how the draft might change in a draft centered around double battles. TLDR I love drafting in Pokemon. Having “pros” do the drafting was super interesting to see. Having double battles or a team/ coaching element might be really cool. But, honestly there is a lot you could do with if you choose to revisit this format. This stream proves that there is still a lot that can be done with the draft nuzlocke series.

[@augervongaribaldi]

Drxx pointing at people is my favorite thing

[@SsS-fx5rn]

Please host more of these! I put this vid on expecting to be entertained by the auction portion and be able to fall asleep during the gameplay race, but here I am at the Flannery part way too invested and excited to sleep lol Great choices for the background music, too. Good thing this was posted on a Friday night and I can watch the whole thing!

[@jordanrijsdijk5496]

Idea for a future draftlock: Hardcore nuzlockers and people that have no nuzlocking experience, after drafting have them pair up (preferably randomly) pro with noob and now we have a soullock, the first drafted mons for both are linked together and so on You give the pros a reason to coach the newbies, have way more chatter to listen in on, more losses which gives possibilities for comebacks and uses more of their boxes and shakes up expected teams because they still have to check which pairs of mons can be used together on a team according to soullock rules

[@yoshi6421]

This would be such a good twist, though maybe a bit hard to implement.

[@parkerd2151]

Alpharad was doing a great job as a host, keeping it exciting during the auction when it was getting stale and trying his best to make it sweet

[@ZeroRanger423]

I'm so happy to see FlygonHG collab with Alpha! His vids are great, I highly recommend you check him out!

[@josephchacra2840]

Flygon is such an agent of chaos

[@DianaDingg]

Loved the auction idea and being able to see all five races at once, this was a fantastic event. Also FlygonHG is one of my favorite KZbinrs, hope you two do more collabs in the future!

[@TheSpeep]

Next time you do this: Lower budget, but players can go over it. Any money they go over their limit they have to donate to charity.

[@MaidenOfAir]

Agreed but maybe let’s cut the starting cash by a factor of 10 to not completely break their wallets

[@josemarioperozofuenmayor3475]

maybe it would give folks like Pchal or kidd an unfair advantage as they juust generally have a lot more money.

[@invertebrado]

Ngl that sounds like a bad idea, since it then becomes entirely pay to win instead of strategic. It honestly defeats the purpose in my eyes

[@cobaltsable1800]

Flygon bidding the minimum for that garchomp and immediately bailing 😂

[@greedyProphet]

If you want to do this again and also participate, you could have someone else make the list and then do auctions like they do in the monopoly videogame where it cycles through everyone and it's either bid or drop out. Might even be able to make a think with a few buttons to automate it. Edit: Also have any leftover money take off from your time, a minute per $100. That seems impactful enough to matter without being an actual strategy. Basically functions as a handicap. Edit2: What about a Draftlocke where everyone submits 20 Pokemon to be in the list. If more than one person picks the same Pokemon, it still only gets added once. No one knows the final count.

[@Tyfonen]

Could there possibly also be an angle for the auction to either sell you eggs with any remaining money and only being told both the egg parents typing?

[@whoahanant]

"1$ is overpriced for Ditto". Ditto being bought for 400$ lmfao

[@funkycichy2722]

58:00 Alpharad out here trolling giving them more money

[@PurGePose]

this is cool to see and def repeatable with the optional improvements about the drafting and a different set of pokemon. it makes me want to watch everyones POV with their own commentary as well

[@albaniaalban]

That is a great looking suit! I love the patterns!!

[@Avarice愛染]

Adef can be the perfect auctioneer and even caster if you really wanna compete next time

[@Red_Phobic2]

Alpha just assuming flygon sounds like shit normally is so funny

[@danksteel13]

Loved seeing Jan save that double battle to set up his guts swellow. Great job to everyone, this one was so fun to watch!

[@gettingiggywitit9970]

Damn Whackos e4 splits were insane

[@ThatoneGuy-ts7xd]

I watch the Vods to listen to alpharads voice and also to hear him insult the chatters

[@joewaldeck]

I see Dr.FlygonHG I’m excited

[@fritothedemon6647]

God I feel bad for Flygon during that last fight but man Whacko played so well especially during the e4. Killer race

[@GoblinzGames]

Something that might be interesting in future attempts is have something to do with left over money . Lets say Some one loses the last bid and has 1000 bucks, that could mean they start with game corner coins or some vitamins . Nothing too crazy but still a consultation .

[@Ironpecker]

Agree! Another option, maybe harder to code on the fly would be that for every 1k over they get 1 more level beyond level cap.

[@invertebrado]

@Ironpecker no because that is broken, I would get 6 good mons and leave all my money to increase to have 10+ levels above the cap and steamroll everything.

[@gwynethelodie4575]

I think it was good to add some money part way into the draft, but I think it could have been a smaller amount so as not to punish the players who were saving up as much. But yes, it definitely made the drafting more exciting again. This was very entertaining, thanks for introducing me to Whacko!

[@jasonmacgregor2833]

You could do a “restock” point in the auction- like every 25 Pokemon everyone gets $XX added into their bank- then you can still save or spend and you’re not really out of funds ever - you might just end up with a lot at the end if you were frugal throughout

[@niaxeno]

It's funny to see everyone way overvalue kubfu because they're all run and bun pilled lol. Extremely entertaining as always and nice to see "experienced" nuzlockers try this for a change!

[@Gamesmarts194]

Kidd mentioned the “Nuzlockers vs speedrunners” event he hosted and honestly having a team setup would be kinda cool for this. Like everyone would still draft for themselves, but people would be on teams so they’d have to coordinate their drafts to they don’t accidentally leave someone on their team without a specific type coverage/gym answer, which also gives the other team an opportunity to snipe said Pokemon. (And also instead of just fastest time, it’d be the total time of all of the team members.)

[@sarabearas.7645]

I think a fun idea for a future auction would be allowing players to TRADE 'mons after the auction! Then there could be fun strategies of a player trying to monopolize all of one specific type of 'mon to hike up its value so they could trade them for several 'mons! Or maybe throw some *items* into the auction pool with the pokemon? That might be dope.

[@ohmybratz]

3:13:08 omg this is so sweet, when I found out Arlie was gonna be a part of the thing I was so excited because all my favorites were doing something together

[@awkward.anonymous]

Really love the auction concept but agree with the sentiment that throwing in extra money halfway gave a huge advantage to early spenders, especially since the good picks seemed to be more front loaded. It resulted in them getting good picks and then still having enough buying power to deny the savers from being able to reliably pick up cheap mons at the end (which is the whole point of saving your money). I think doubling the money would have the opposite problem - those who saved would be massively advantaged and it wouldn't help those who blew their money early (if anything it would actually make it almost impossible for the people who run low on funds to get back into the bid, which I think was the entire goal of offering out more money). Genuinely I think the fairest thing is to just not offer extra money and let people strategize about whether it's better to gamble on early or late bids, or give people extra money only if all bidders agree to it.

[@spirtjam]

Pchall is that guy that trolls strategically it's needed but welcome to your villain roll 😂

[@XdemiraX]

Caught this live, was fantastic viewing! Both the auction lart and the race part were incredibly entertaining, and what a finish!

[@mochi_ni3608]

At 1.5 to 1.75 speed makes it feel more like an auction

[@boomfanfic-a-latta8996]

Try 2x speed

[@zchomp2574]

Ideas for next race: *Trading period after draft, before race *some H2h battle element at end *Alpha spontaneously controls AI or injects chaos some other way during race *Players allowed some custom nominations during draft *general quality improvements to draft: Salary values visible, bid timer, highlight highest bidder *auction some held items *some chat selected pokemon for auction pool (dono incentive or polls for the memes)

[@bryce1197]

Love this! Suggestion would be if in the black space between all the screens we could have like a badge list to easily see what gym each person is on? Since they announce when they complete the gym leader, wouldn't be too difficult beside the graphic formatting. But I love any competitive nuzlocking.

[@Jojothejman]

I think it'd be cool to add certain items to the auction next time. Like that one that lets you switch to a pokemon's hidden ability, or just being able to have a boosting item guarenteed at the start.

[@trolledchaos6531]

Unironically, even with the 20 minute pause to fix the starter situation, this is your best video idea. I want more of this SO bad.

[@rath-and-shield]

Don’t know if Jacob will see this but maybe having a list of types (probably just the 1st) for all the Pokemon in the auction, then around like around 12-16 Pokemon per person Edit: or have auction tiers like early game, mid game and late game for more budgeting

[@naaberz3]

if you ever want to do it again but mix it up a bit you could have the draft be groups of pokemon for each sale, was fun to watch!

[@Samutroll]

Love these events and would be wonderful to see you host more. It'd be nice to see a progress bar for each one just so it's easier to follow where they're at and I think it would be nice to throw them a challenge or something mid-way.

[@Overcast2626]

awesome idea! next time, if they run out of money, they can bid by using a time handicap! like 10 seconds = 100 dollar bid or something like that.

[@AndrewLawton16]

I can't believe that ending. Insane!!

[@attonthejedi]

Different idea for something like this: you know the "you have $15 monies to spend on pokemon what do you get?" And then there are like 4 categories ranging from $5 to $1 why not make something like that, give people the different cards and a certain amont of money?

[@DaftPragmatism]

I really enjoyed this! I think there's a lot of variation that could be done in the auction, increasing minimum bids over time, organizing by types, mystery prizes, auctioning some held items/evolution items, there's a lot of options that could be fun.

[@Pikaton659]

Alpharad talking about how he's never hosted an event he hasn't competed in, forgetting about the Neon White video that got me addicted to that game

[@Ironpecker]

One thing I'd probably add for this is to give everyone with money left some fodder pokemons as bonus, something like a zigzagoon that can't ever attack (nor use the cap candy on) for every 300/500/any amount you agree on. So that at least the people who saved some money have a little bonus

[@AAAOfficer]

Pchal Sold the kubfu "are we waiting for the others" - 🤓

[@start9829]

I’m not sure you’ll check the comments of the VOD frogs but I absolutely love this idea and format and would love to see more

[@KazeTheCursedOne]

Conceptually this is one of the best nuzlocker racers I've seen, I'd love to see A redux of the format with some quality of life tweaks, first and foremost less pokemon because the auction was long and slow at the end. Winnowing it down to 'these are all pretty good mons, what ones do you need for your team?' rather than 'these pokemon are alright but you've probably already got your teams planned out' we saw later on. For part two maybe try 'the last pokemon is Arceus, but there's going to be five other legends' every ten/twenty pokemon' or something similar.

[@GoldenPiggy56]

I absolutely love this challenge. This is going to be one of my top 5 vids to watch! Good job

[@misscutenar2333]

I really enjoyed this, it was super fun and nice background noise for me, I hope you do this again, maybe as charity as someone else mentioned

[@KHfan0011]

Whacko winning was well-deserved. I love him so much. He's just so silly and fun.

[@cjjulius4138]

Maybe, I will say Jan was fucked, he was smart and saved budget and everyone got equal money back, so he lost alot of his late draft advantage

[@darknessrex9211]

Lowkey wish thered be a buyable item to give someone a hidden ability or something using an earned credit or something. Feel like it would enable pretty good viability

[@animewarrior3]

The idea of 1000 dollar buy in on a nuzlocke pokedraft with a winnings of 3k to first place, 2k to 2nd place sounds fantastic

[@Sticowish]

I love this type of stuff and you are a great host/commentator

[@nicoleloomans3271]

Really liked the group of nuzlockers you asked to participate. I think everyone had valid criticism at the end, but really enjoyed it

[@GarrettisFarret]

Love me some Flygon collaboration!

[@ohwhoaitzjoe]

This is a cool idea - thanks for hosting it!

[@Sepricotaku]

"I should have brought a hammer" could have borrowed Ludwigs from the charity auction with Conner last year lnfao. Oh and I like the way point Crow does his races, chat gets set to emote only no Infor sharing allowed.

[@Nothing2150]

Definitely have an announced top up of money before hand. So they can still have money saving strategies and the betting can be interesting but anyone that plans around saving won't be screwed over

[@superpuddlejumper101]

"If people like this, I will absolutely do more..." YES, PLEASE!!!

[@jacobmcglue5996]

I could watch this cast do this same challenge so many times. I hope they do this again soon

[@TravoC]

To keep the last pokemon from just simply going to whoever has the highest money maybe players should have some sort of reward for the money they've kept, perhaps money in game but I doubt that's super useful

[@PirateOfGermany]

Something like "The 3 players with the highest money have a 5 minute headstart" Which is a boon, but doesnt knock anyone outta contention

[@TravoC]

@@PirateOfGermany A straight up downside for whoever gets the last mon is heat but like in a bad way where it probably won't feel as good

[@MallowPokes]

I absolutely loved this, can't wait to see more races like this in the future

[@joshjosh9757]

Since you're asking: I like you as a commentator overall (participant, host, whatever). I'll watch 95% of the VODs you put up, even if it's just on the other monitor over most other youtubers, streamers, netflix shows, etc.

[@tarcmaylor]

I dunno if you check the YT VOD comments, but if (and hopefully when!) you do this again, I'd like there to be something for people that have money left at the end, that way if they're not top dollar in the last couple of mon they'd still get something even if it's minor.

[@keizervanenerc5180]

Love the format! Also mad respect for dropping Ironmon. It's waaaay too RNG heavy and repeatative. There are like 5 poketubers that i used to watch freaquently, that i basically completely stopped watching because all they did was ironmon for MONTHS!

[@GinthTX]

Blind draft nuzlockes with talented runners? I need more please, thank you.

[@heath6802]

This would make a wonderful charity if chatters bought the pokemon for their streamer, maybe you can also buy them a randomized berry or held item?

[@PseudOnym-mc6vg]

Flygon got screwed out of nearly a fifth of his new money at 59:50. LMAO

[@PulseFire215]

Damn, sucks to see Flygon just get DESTROYED by RNG in the very last fight.

[@pallavprabhakar]

This is a great idea. Keep such videos coming!!

[@obviouslyanonymous]

Would be cool to see this done with speedrunners, where they bid time which gets added to their total run time.

[@gerdbrauckmann9911]

its funny how jan was the first one to tell flygons using the wrong mic and that also took 30mins

[@Cowmaize]

2:03:30 I think the difference between mythical and legendary pokemon is really interesting, bc while the pokemon company makes a point of differentiating them from each other, they don’t seem to be all that different from legendary pokemon? Aside from perhaps event/acquirement gimmick

[@UndeadJohnGaming]

Whacko honestly lives up to his name. He is indeed WHACKO but that;s a good way to go.

[@kingether4486]

A valid strat that I learened from multiple auction series is if its something you dont want personally but someone else wants raise the bid 3 times cause this gets them spending more money on this item and having less money on items you want

[@yoshi6421]

I'm pretty sure that's what Pchal was doing 😂

[@madwaltz9812]

Rather than the idea of "you have to use every pokemon you draft/buy," I think perhaps "Each pokemon can't be used again after being brought to a gym leader fight" might be a better way of forcing people to use a wide variety of pokemon. Though, that would mean you actually have no incentive to keep your pokemon alive in each fight, and it also means you'd need to draft a LOT of pokemon which would take a long time. I think ideally you'd do something like "each pokemon can be used for 2-3 gym leaders" or something, but that's significantly more clunky because you have to keep track of how many times you've used that 'mon. Also, this was a great idea! I loved it!

[@bobrossdahoss]

Had the same idea. I honestly didn't think about the lack of incentive to keep pokemon alive, but maybe have a time penalty if a Pokemon faints or maybe it limits the number of Pokemon allowed out on the next fight? Still think it could be a nice way to even out the playing field from just having a single sweeper (not that this race was bad at all).

[@kms4093ks]

The auction was really entertaining for some reason!

[@tomjackal5708]

this was an awesome thing to watch, would Love to see more stuff hosted like this

[@Karchtopher]

For next time: Put in a extremely weak pokemon that can be traded in the late game for a some legendary. Reward the players for picking a bad pokemon at the auction!

[@ForumExplorer]

I like this idea, but I want to see it with a harder game. Like one of the Kaizo mods. They build their teams and actually have a really hard fight in order to win rather than just being a straight speed race.

[@zoom161]

The E4 nail bitter was so hype! Please do more of these!

[@randolfthegray9841]

I don't watch a tooooon of alpharad content but this was an instant click. Love this idea

[@mrSift27]

Awesome. The child inside me was pinballing. This was my last gen. Thank You Gentlemen.

[@ezrafoehammer4515]

You guys should absolutely do this as a charity stream, maybe in a moded ORAS?