ALPINE BUTTERFLY Double Loop Knot (2x Tying Methods)

[@snpActn]

Very clear demonstration and explanation, good job!

[@Knot-orious]

I really appreciate you and your comment! Thank you! I always do my best to go slowly, clearly, and concisely! Because not everyone is a knot expert! Some people really need the pace to be slowed down and to have everything explained! Even experienced, obsessed knot heads, like myself, tend to enjoy the discussion and the slower pace! Anyways, I digress! I'm a rambler! Thanks for your positive comment and support! I genuinely appreciate it! =-D

[@aviduke]

Worked a treat. Thanks

[@Knot-orious]

Glad this video was helpful! Thanks for commenting!

[@joem8496]

On the cross cross side does it matter where the band sits when you set it? I dont have a rope w me so maybe its not possible but i imagine it could go on the "outside" of the regular alpine butterfly, if that makes any sense.

[@joem8496]

Or said another way, you have it on the loop side of the cross cross. Can it set on the far side of the cross and might that be more secure?

[@Knot-orious]

I'm having trouble understanding what you're trying to say. Define "cross cross." The way that these knots are dressed and set in this video results in their STRONGEST configuration. Deviating from these tying methods, and resulting knot structure(s), will result in a weaker, less secure version of this knot.

[@TredasTaurin]

Hello, that was once again a really interesting and understandable presentation of the Alpine Butterfly with 2 loops. Can it be opened again easily after use? 👍

[@Knot-orious]

Thank you very much! Yes, it's actually pretty easy to untie after being heavily loaded. Easier than the single loop variant as far as untying. Less prone to jamming due to the extra bulk. Glad you enjoyed my demo! Thanks for commenting! =-D

[@neitzsche5150]

Very innovative rendition of the venerable Alpine butterfly! I can see an application for this version if one needed a super bulky stopper know. There would be less wear and tear on the rope with two loops, as well. Also, I like the use of your mnemonic to remember how to properly tie it. Great video!

[@Knot-orious]

Thank you so much! This is easily one of my favorite knots, even though (as mentioned in the video) I rarely actually use it. This is a great knot for situations when you need to separate two anchors onto one rope, or isolate two core shots close together, or when you want a single anchor point to be spread out between two loops for extra security. I'm also pleased that you like my mnemonic (that was the word I was looking for; thank you!). Because pulling the loop through the "X" will result in a completely different knot, and I'm uncertain as to how well it will hold up. The double Alpine Butterfly is, for sure, a life supporting knot. Therefore, tying it correctly is of the utmost importance! The reason I put this video out so soon after my Pulley Saver video is because the Pulley Saver video was performing quite poorly (same with the Short I made for it), which isn't that surprising considering it's ultra niche. I will be making Shorts for each tying method for the Double Alpine butterfly in the next day or so, so keep an eye out for those! As one of my most loyal subscribers, you are now privy to insider information! It takes a lot of work to film and edit Shorts, even though they are only 60 seconds or less long! They usually take way more takes than my long form content, but, once filming is done, I have the fun part: editing! I'm always trying to improve my edits and genuinely enjoy editing! Sorry for the lengthy reply. I'm just trying to include you in my thought/action process because you've been around for so long and thought you might like to feel like an inclusive part of my community! =-D

[@ianbarnett6027]

Great video. Thanks

[@Knot-orious]

Thanks a lot! I'm so happy you enjoyed my video! Thanks for commenting! =-D

[@j-jlevy]

Not bad at all bro. Tie and re-tie is the name of the game. I wished you had included the ring in the double loop as well. Yhat would be cool

[@Knot-orious]

Firstly, thank you! I did include the ring in the double loop Alpine Butterfly in the first tying demo.

[@j-jlevy]

I meant the second tying method ​@@Knot-orious

[@Knot-orious]

@@j-jlevy Gotcha. Thre is a way to use that method to install a ring, but it's not very straightforward as far as my understanding is concerned. You'd have the feed the ring through the last two strands and you wrap them around your hand. Meaning You'd have to feed it through your entire rope TWICE for it to work! So it wouldn't be a midline hardware installation! Great comment!

[@j-jlevy]

Cool, thanks. I'll try to figure something out

[@Knot-orious]

@@j-jlevy I'll play around with it as well to see if I can come up with something for the second tying method that will allow for simple installation of hardware! Hope you're feeling better, buddy!

[@stevenimz5689]

Way too much explanation

[@Knot-orious]

Sorry you feel that way. I did my best. The vast majority of viewers appear to enjoy my explanation.

[@zoobiewa]

Not ENOUGH explanation. I want MORE details ;) Love going deep and nerdy into the fundamentals and subtle differences of every step.

[@Knot-orious]

​@@zoobiewa As you've probably noticed from many of my videos, I could talk about knots, friction hitches, and climbing all day. My target audience for my videos are people who feel the same way, and who enjoy my lengthy deep dives and technical rants. People like yourself! But I also have to balance that with the many other viewers who simply want to see how a knot is tied and that's about it. But I have to be true to myself and to my personal style of videography, and so I VERY FREQUENTLY put out 20-40 minute videos. This is because I created my KZbin channel so that I could educate and share my knowledge. It's almost impossible for me to resist sharing as much as I can, but in a way that won't scare off or bore too many people. Haha, anyways, here I am again...ranting! Thanks for the positive comment! =-D