Alternate History of Germany (1848-2018)

This is a collaboration with the Rat of Mapping! Recently we have seen a lot of Videos like the one you are seeing now, but we thought most of them where quite lackluster, so we thought that we could do a better one.
Music used:
Was ist des Deutschen Vaterland
Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser
Der Radetzky-Marsch
Die Gedanken sind frei
Das Deutschland (German Anthem)

[@TheRatofMapping]

We hope that you enjoyed the video! This video came to be when Imperial and me watched some "Alternate Nation" videos just to see how laughably unrealistic or even random some of them were. First we thought about writing comments, but we thought everyone would just be like "Oh yeah?! Why don't you do it better if you pretend to be so good?!" Then we raised the question:"Wait, why don't we actually do it better?". And that's how this video idea was born. We tried to give a cause and explanation to every divergence done in this video. Our goal was to try and make an Alternate Nations video that was as "realistic" as possible. Of course, the further we progress in the timeline the more we run into an area of complete speculation. Nontheless we attempted to make this scenario as plausible as possible, hopefully in contrast to all those other really unrealistic or random Alternate Nations videos that currently are popular. Anyways, thanks for watching!

[@thealternatezeitgeist5950]

I am sorry for some mistakes I have noticed too late. 1. 03:09 Franz Josef, obviously. I tend to confuse both at times, sorry. 2. 07:05 Sorry for Nigeria joining two seconds too late. I worked on both Maps seperately and merged them into one file later on, so I must have missed this. 3. It appears that there are two different Fonts used in the Video. In fact it was shown to me as the same font, but apparently it is different on my Laptop. I didn't notice that one.

[@syrialak101]

Well, in my experience, the replies you get for comments on those Alternate Nations videos usually go along the lines of "Did you read the title, you dumb fuck!?" I mean, there's a reason why they put those "This is not meant to be realistic" things at the beginning.

[@thealternatezeitgeist5950]

@@syrialak101 realistic is the wrong word. "This is Not factual history" would Work better, as an Alternate History can still be kinda realistic. It is always better If they actually Work in our world. Unfortunately most we have Seen Don't Work

[@WTFCDFoxy]

Do you mean "Alternative Countries of Europe", etc... Which ones did you exactly watch?

[@thealternatezeitgeist5950]

@@WTFCDFoxy yours too I am afraid xd Edit: Don't take this as an offense though. You are at least improving while a lot of these mappers don't

[@historylover8139]

I like how Karl lives to like 96 in this alternative history when in the real history he dies aged 34

[@ClassicalMusicMan]

How ironic

[@5nhyfiery]

cause he is cool 😎😎😎😎

[@bruitbane2781]

Without being exiled to some distant, forested island which led to his already poor health being compromised with pneumonia, he was more than capable of having lived a long life.

[@PossessedPotatoBird]

Don’t just say “Karl” that sounds so pathetic

[@historylover8139]

@@PossessedPotatoBird dude this comment is 2 years old.

[@svda4565]

Jul 1988 Germany: Never thought I’d die fighting side by side with the French France: How about side by side with a friend? Germany:Yeah, I can take that

[@dernurhalbwegsinteressiert5118]

Germany is a giant not a dwarf!!!!

[@palanisamysaravanan1656]

@Vorraboms what are you trying to say

[@charger9912]

POG

[@heatherhudec8952]

Britain and France (only France died) ant the Austro Hungarians and the Ottamons

[@everybodyisunpleasentinthe938]

WOW! The best thing is, that all these personalities truly existed, and this alternate history isnt too unrealistic. The Nationalversammlung after the Napoleonic French collapse seeked to plant a new republican government in Germany. And two options were argued upon, the kleindeutsche Lösung, meaning a new government for a united Germany, and the großdeutsche Lösung, meaning a new government for a united Germany including German-Austria. This is worth a like! Absolutely brilliant work! And finally not something absolutely unrealistic and stupid

[@orjelmort2330]

yes I love this scenario, if not for seen a small Albania I think that this should be the real timeline maybe in another universe :(

[@gort1319]

uschi flinte XD

[@edwinsparda7622]

Not to sound like a jerk but the Großdeutschland Lösung would be including Prussia-Austria (along with the other smaller German states) since they were arguing for a solution before settling on one German solution. Austrians are just as German as the other states.

[@janalmwert2372]

It is indeed bc they made us loose territory to damn Denmark this really pisses me off

[@jaloley8558]

Uschi Flinte xD Brudi muss los

[@tommygym03]

xD Uschi, Flinten. Beraterministerin

[@gort1319]

definitiv kennen wir das bild nirgendwoher XD

[@peachtv8000]

Alter ursula von der leyen ich könnt mich schlapp lachen😅 R.I.P Germany wenns so wär..

[@jaloley8558]

@@peachtv8000 aber sowas von

[@customtaper.simson4273]

Hab ich auch nen Anfall bekommen xD

[@wachtwoorden2]

Not the Germany we have, but the Germany we deserve

[@grapejuice664]

Nahhhh bruh 💀

[@Nirotheolu]

Not many would agree.

[@Kwulfric]

A germany rulled by austrians? Hell no

[@CamLeMan1309]

@@KwulfricI’m American but Austrians wouldn’t be such a bad idea

[@tigrax71]

Germany=Austria​@@Kwulfric

[@doman_m]

Well written, interesting video. You and Rat made definitely a great job. Can't wait to see your other alternate histories, made by only yourself or in collaboration. Keep it up!

[@nationalistfromcanada3497]

Belarus in this alt timeline: 2012-2015 That was short lmao.

[@teroxstep]

Oh Belarus, you are so poor

[@gravydaddy9603]

Never forget ;(

[@Sounderspore]

10:56?

[@croissant2951]

Yea 1949

[@ramen_9588]

Probably a belarusian uprising or something

[@nakoamechi]

This is hot, ahhh yess. I needed this in my life. Gott will es und Gott ist bei uns!

[@karwan6385]

That's not what I call fat germany. >:(

[@brazilianmapping56]

That Germany at the end is epic, but not epic enough *LIBERATE HOLSTEIN, SCHLESWIG AND ALSACE-LORRAINE*

[@eingamer1918]

Brazilian Mapping and Upper silesia and Sudetenland

[@Frixworks]

@FREE 3021 Maybe add in Luxembourg? they were majorly German...

[@moinsenmittag8683]

We just need the german parts of all neighbours exept for the swiss and we are good

[@sydzappa5082]

I live in Lorraine And ho boy I feel french as Well:)

[@sydzappa5082]

@DrMaster7 Moselle, the occupied land in the past.

[@qwerty0458]

the most realistic ‘alternate history of X’ ever

[@DivergencesofHistory]

Nah The biggest Issue was Poland's Population being disregarded long term other than that its great (I mean from unless we were not informed of mass genocide there are alot of angry poles in German territory in 2018)

[@Tom-cm9zt]

@@DivergencesofHistory without the Soviet Union's forced mass migrations of Germans out of the new Polish borders after WW2, the vast majority of that land would still be mainly German

[@DivergencesofHistory]

@@Tom-cm9zt Ehhh, I don't know what I was thinking a year ago. Yes the land was **Germanified** so it works, I guess maybe I meant that the large Polish Minority would cause issues in the modern era, idk :P*

[@j0nas469]

@@DivergencesofHistory there were almost no polish people in the areas Germany owned at the end. The areas had a vast German majority. Polish areas in the former German empire only existed in upper Silesia, near Kattowice, as well as in Poznan

[@sweaterketchup2730]

7:07 YES THE ANGLO-GERMAN ALLIANCE

[@AlexM-WI]

I like the amount of thought you guys put into this alternative version of history. However I would like to point out 2 things I think are missing from your line of events: 1) because of its huge area, resource riches and population growth the USA and Russia were bound to be important players of the 20th century. Maybe not as much or in the same way as in real life. But they are missing in their influence of your Central European history. 2) you have an absolute monarchy reigning over the German Confederation for a good part of the 2nd half of the 20th century without much happening or much foreign intervention. I find that implausible with France and the UK watching from relatively closeby But overall nonetheless a great thought experiment

[@herbertlandschmid3012]

I dont think the Germans would have ever given up their Kaiser if there were no lost world wars and all that shit. i mean we still have people who want to restore the throne and crown George Frederick of Prussia.

[@AlexM-WI]

@@herbertlandschmid3012 I disagree. The 1848 revolution happened. And was violently crushed. A lot of democrats and liberals either fled e.g. to the US or went into internal exile, becoming apolitical . Germany also had enough potential for democracy.

[@mayuri4184]

I could get behind this European order. Bulgaria has half of Tsargrad, Balkans are less Balkanised, Catalonia, Euskadi and Galicia are free, Ireland has its precious Northern Ireland, France has Wallonia, Sweden has Åland, the Levant is one nation, and Germany has Preußen and Königsberg.

[@miguelmontenegro3520]

@Maykil Ryfira You mean the perfect world

[@wachtwoorden2]

And the Netherlands have flanders

[@boiwhatdahellboi9180]

Hungary and Romania is sharing transilvania

[@georgios_5342]

Greece lost Asia Minor and CONSTANTINOPLEEEEEEEEEE. Unacceptable...

[@thevisitor135]

"The Thoughts are free, who can guess them? They fly by like nocturnal shadows. No person can know them, no hunter can shoot them with powder nor lead: The Thoughts are free! I think what I want, and what delights me, still always reticent, and as it is suitable. My wish and desire, no one can deny me and so it will always be: The Thoughts are free! And if I am thrown into the darkest dungeon, all these are futile works, because my thoughts tear all gates and walls apart: The Thoughts are free! So I will renounce my sorrows forever, and never again will torture myself with whimsies. In one's heart, one can always laugh and joke and think at the same time: The Thoughts are free! I love wine, and my girl even more, Only her I like best of all. I'm not alone with my glass of wine, my girl is with me: The Thoughts are free!" - Hymn of the April Revolution that overthrown the absolutist dictatorship of Kaiser Karl and restored democratic governance, liberty, and the rule of law to Deustchland. Long live die AprilRevolution! Die Gedanken Sind Frei, Herr Lukas!

[@CadetGriffin]

Bust in this darn ancient bar, Kai-Lan! These fries are hot! It's for the runt! 'Tis 'fore I grind to play the blues! 'Tis 'fore I'm bound to let it eat! O9, I'm, I'm! I'm for Kai-Lan! Most precious sign! Sign for Kai-Lan! Most precious sign! Bust in this darn ancient bar, Kai-Lan! This spy on hunt! He's tied a runt! 'Tis 'fore these harps are wringed too straight! 'Tis 'fore the 'Merica pies are wrecked! O9, I'm, I'm! I'm for Kai-Lan! Most precious sign! Sign for Kai-Lan! Most precious sign! Bust in this darn ancient bar, Kai-Lan! This bum's a runt! There's quite he learned! 'Tis 'fore the font's blob lunar bait! 'Tis 'fore the corn's across a gate! O9, I'm, I'm! I'm for Kai-Lan! Most precious sign! Sign for Kai-Lan! Most precious sign! Bust in this darn ancient bar, Kai-Lan! This ol' panda bear! That's close in, out! Islam, that's right, it gets the gold! Aslan, who toiled, is memeable! O9, I'm, I'm! I'm for Kai-Lan this Christmas night! Sign for Kai-Lan this Christmas night! Bust in this darn ancient bar, Kai-Lan! 'This ol' panda bear! This close, a runt! Go beast, this deer's just crazed for height! I'm near the corn, can see them rise! O9, I'm, I'm! I'm for Kai-Lan this Christmas night! Sign for Kai-Lan this Christmas night! Bust in this darn ancient bar, Kai-Lan! Sold panda, hay, fish, beer, that's right! So fighting ancient sword that keeps foreclosing me, I need a king! That's right, that's right! That's right, that's right! That's right, that ancient panda dye has learned it right! That's fun to Deutschland breakfast's sake! Who got the beef and cedar right? And he who ruins the bank and bites in mold, ask me to ask me, bank fight on foot! That's right, that's right! That's right, that's right! That's right, he marched the toy inside! That song is right! The song, that boy's fresh toy, is stored! - Misheard first anthem

[@gravydaddy9603]

I get so hyped every time there is a new video of yours. Edit: no matter how much time it takes, every single video is worth the wait

[@stephank9172]

First good german alt history scenario ive seen, most of the others are just wehraboo fantasies. This should be made a hoi 4 mod

[@thunderbird1921]

Another "good" one I've seen is where the Nazis are deposed and Hitler dies in a late 1930s German civil war (and most HOI4 players using the scenario have them all executed) and a bizarre chain of events follows that leads to the restoration of the Honhenzollern monarchy, usually Wilhelm III (Wilhelm II's son) or his sister Victoria. They in turn begin a campaign to purge Fascism and Communism from Europe. How exactly plausible this scenario would be in real life is of course debatable, but it's certainly a highly unusual and interesting outcome.

[@endeavour5612]

This is probably one of the best alternate history of [country] I've ever seen!

[@costantinochianale4904]

Man this is really well thought, do you think you could do one of these for Italy on the same timeline? It looks like it's history could be quite interesting

[@yamamotohiromori419]

Really interesting indeed, i want it in hoi4 mod

[@riddlie787]

Amazing, simply amazing, finally something that isn’t just porn for german nationalists but actually greatly constructed an thought out :D

[@teddypunch]

Honestly, bravo. With all the really shitty alternate timeline videos out there, this is definitely one of the truly great ones.

[@elsauce4873]

I must say, I didn’t read through all the events, but from what I could see, this was thought through very well. Typically these alternate history videos would go along the lines of; “The German Kaiser sent some troops to a country. This made another country’s leader very mad, who declared war on Germany. A war happens and then it ends. Oh look how interesting the borders are now! Oh look, that capital is here now when in reality it’s over there! I’m very creative!”

[@thealternatezeitgeist5950]

Yeah I hate these

[@elsauce4873]

@@thealternatezeitgeist5950 but dude, I totally want you to expand upon this universe, writing the history of, not every country of course, but most major ones. It would be awesome, although its your choice at the end of the day.

[@peachtv8000]

Prime minister ursula von der leyen god nooo nooo god bless this would be the End of germany 😅

[@thebenis3157]

There are some problems here: the first time Germany tries to unite, foreign countries intervene to stop this, which is accurate, because that's exactly what would have happened, and also what happened historically, but the second time, when Franz Josef unites Germany, nobody has anything to say about it? It's fair to assume that Russia, Italy, France and, maybe, the UK would have A LOT to say about this, since it changes drastically the power balance in the continent, and Italy claimed land that was owned by that version of the German Empire, which brings me to the second point I have a problem with: the way you made Germany and Italy have peace didn't make much sense to me, I mean, Franz Josef would have never handed over voluntarily such a significant amount of land for free. Then there is your version of ww1, where Italy decides to help Germany, even though it held the land whose ownership in our timeline made Italy decide not to help Austria-Hungary in ww1, and I honestly don't see any reason why that should change in this case. After that, the Great Mediterranean war seemed pretty random, but whatever, that's not as important. Ah, and we get it, you are from Frankfurt. Though I'd like to clarify that I'm not hating, I've absolutely loved all your other videos and I think you're by far the best in the mapping community

[@thealternatezeitgeist5950]

1. Well, the Second unification only worked because both Russia and France, the Nations that were most opposing towards the idea of a United Germany, were both just beaten by these Germans in a war, rendering them unable to object. Same thing happened in 1871 in our Timeline. 2. Italy was pretty content with the big gains it made during the war against France and was thus willing to Sacrifice Istria for the more lucrative German alliance. Franz Josef actually doing that is Another question, but I Think the Sacrifice of a territory Not even Part of the core Empire in favor for Peace on one front would have been convincing enough. Thats Speculation. 3. That lays the groundwork for the German Alliance in the Great War 4. The Great Mediterranean War was there to symbolize the lack of stability that lies within the European order. There was Never a Cold War, Never an EU, Never a NATO. 5. I am Not even from Frankfurt. Thats just the Place where the National Assembly went and One of the cultural Centers throughout German history, so it makes sense to choose it as capital. I am from Essen.

[@nizam5568]

This is the definition of an intellectual fight

[@thebenis3157]

@@thealternatezeitgeist5950 1 Ok, you're absolutely right about France, my bad, but Russia was beaten 15 years earlier than the second German attempt at unification, that's a fairly good time to recover from a war. I mean, I'm mot saying that Russia would have surely won that, but they surely could have tried, and Italy would have had interests in helping Russia, because of the Italian land owned by the newborne German Empire. Also, the UK wouldn't have liked the birth of an absolutist empire on central Europe, and it's not unreasonable to assume that they would help Italy and Russia in that war. Again, maybe Germany would have won, but still, those countries would have been able to try and stop this reunification. 2 I absolutely agree with the fact that it would have been a smart move to give Venetia to Italy, because not only it would have significantly improved the relations between the 2 countries, but also, if anything happened later, the new border would have been much easier to defend for Germany. But yeah, the problem is that Franz Josef is doing this. I mean, he wasn't an idiot, that's for sure, he would understand why some people would cede Venetia, but he was the pure definition of imperialism, in our he didn't agree to cede land even during ww1, when that would have meant bringing Italy by their side of the war, which needles to say, would have been really helpful, and in that situation Italy would have even given a lot of money to Austria-Hungary for that. So yeah, I really don't think that Franz Josef would ever do that, it's just not him. 3 I think that you could have handled the alliances chain in a better way, for example the UK getting better relations with Germany is possible even with the absolutist form of government, I mean, in our timeline they did manage to get along with Russia, so this would be entirely possible. Also, Spain exists, and it's easy to assume that Germany could try to spread anti-French sentiment among the Spanish population for strategic reasons, that sentiment could be based on a possible dispute over the region of Rousillon (may have misspelled this, but whatever). And again, saying that Italy would just be content with the territorial gains in France is probably too weak a reason, irredentism was still strong in Italy at the time, and just giving up on taking land with an Italian majority wouldn't be seen well by most people in the country. 4 Fair enough, that's actually a really good reason. 5 I was just joking when i said that you are from Frankfurt. Now, I've read my first comment again, and I've noticed that it probably makes me look more critical than I intended to be, so I'll say it clearly now: even though I think that this video has got a few flaws, it's still leagues ahead of the huge majority of this kind of videos, what I meant to say is that, in my opinion, this wasn't as good as your usual 100% perfect videos

[@thealternatezeitgeist5950]

@@thebenis3157 1. Russia was involved in the last war too. Take a look at Poland :D Other than that, the British knew that Germany would have Not been an absolute monarchy, as it was mainly established out of the pressure of the national-liberal movement. An absolute monarchy was not up to debate. I Don't mind about your criticism, I Think it is Good that someone voices it, but I Feel like defending myself haha

[@thebenis3157]

@@thealternatezeitgeist5950 Ok, you're right, I take back everything I've said about the German unification, I didn't notice the fight in Poland and the part where it says that the newborn German empire would be a constitutional monarchy, my bad. Everything else I said still stands though. And yeah, of course you want to defend yourself, everyone would, but I wanted to clarify that my because I felt like my comment seemed angrier than it actually was

[@zacharys930]

Most realistic scenario I’d seen from these alternative history videos on Germany! Well done

[@nizam5568]

When I was binge watching Watir mapping's glorious series, this was uploaded.

[@hawksnebula1506]

THIS IS BY FAR THE BEST ALTERNATE HISTORY OF GERMANY I HAVE SEEN SORRY FOR WRITING IN CAPS ITS JUST THIS VIDEO IS SO GOOD Just one thing when Karl the 1st is crowned wouldn't it be Frans Ferdinand because he was already assassinated?

[@hawksnebula1506]

hello old me :)

[@DeutschlandMapping]

0:13 I love this song.

[@thealternatezeitgeist5950]

Same

[@MrBeast60o0]

Same what is the name?

[@DeutschlandMapping]

@@MrBeast60o0 "Was ist des Deutschen Vaterland"

[@MrBeast60o0]

@@DeutschlandMapping thank you

[@eingamer1918]

Hahah why is Flinten Uschi chancellor of Germany at 13:56 ?

[@tanapatyangkaew4649]

That's Ursula Von der leyen

[@ronanmahaffey2996]

Definitely one of my favorite alternate history videos ever

[@diamzaphkiel3833]

Why is always Italy bullied at the end? 😥

[@nizam5568]

Because he-e is-a i-ital

[@ClayWar237]

Italy did nothing wrong #liberatecorsica

[@aurelian2641]

Well traitors in two world wars 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@TheGirard62]

@@ClayWar237 corsican already don't want to be in france, so i guess they would simply shoot at italian if they try their luck

[@tonywagner1626]

"Mom, can I have a new Germany? My Germany is kinda lame" New Germany: Germany in this video My Germany: Actual Germany

[@davout5775]

It is really interesting how other nations managed to defeat Germany that easy considering German history and how hard is really to defeat them.

[@SummonJaja]

This is Austria and not Germany and the Austrian military is very bad

[@MMadesen]

close to perfect, just need elsass, lothringen, luxemburg, german switzerland, schleswig and the sudetenland+ netherlands and flanders

[@Im_Rainrot]

Or the entirety of Europe as well?

[@MMadesen]

@@Im_Rainrot No

[@TheGirard62]

there is plenty of alternative video with fucking huge germany, so please stop being jerk and wanting to always see the same video, that's boring Alternative map are supposed to show plenty of different possibility, not just the greater german reich for the 50th time

[@lordpolish2727]

@@TheGirard62 90% of alternate history of germanys are kaiserboo fanboys from America detached from reality who just dream of a Greater Germany

[@WTFCDFoxy]

Hmm... Interesting video

[@dragonathebestbg2714]

I like that massive bulgaria

[@thanasisvoutsas461]

@@dragonathebestbg2714 I dont

[@Sounderspore]

I think he has ideas but comme version what.

[@picolasbnf]

Jeez, this is a masterpiece, this is marvellous, you made my day.

[@herbertlandschmid3012]

I love the little detail of calling Ursula von der Leyen "Uschi Flinte" as "Flintenuschi" was a name given to her when she was minister of defense

[@mfkne6117]

respect! this video really got a lot of love

[@slavic-ugridude6004]

13:56 die Gute Alte Flinten Uschi ist Prime Minnister😂😂

[@everybodyisunpleasentinthe938]

Die Gedanken sind frei; wer kann sie erraten? Sie fliegen vorbei, wie nächtliche Schatten. Kein Mensch kann sie wissen, kein Jäger erschießen, mit Pulver und Blei; die Gedanken sind frei! Ich denke was ich will und was mich beglücket. Doch alles in der Still' und wie es sich schicket. Mein Wunsch, mein Begehren, kann niemand verwehren. Es bleibet dabei: Die Gedanken sind frei! Ich liebe den Wein, mein Mädchen vor allem. Sie tut mir allein am besten gefallen. Ich bin nicht alleine bei meinem Glas Weine. Mein Mädchen dabei; die Gedanken sind frei! Und sperrt man mich ein, im finsteren Kerker; das alles sind rein vergebliche Werke. Denn meine Gedanken zerreißen die Schranken und Mauern entzwei; die Gedanken sind frei!

[@nikolasffm]

Wundervoll

[@mansnothot9619]

Me: *Sees a new upload* Me: *Fangirl scream*

[@jordanatkins4493]

Please make another one this was amazing

[@bumorhoomer8318]

It’s good but you let the Austrians rule you know that’s literally impossible even in Alternate history you have to change a lot

[@thealternatezeitgeist5950]

Disagreed. Unification was Inevitable, no matter the dominant dynasty.

[@MaxTheCat-eh5ts]

*when you 2 months wanted season 3 but now you’re just grateful that this was upload and realize the quality of quantity is good*

[@technine967]

Never in my life do I allow myself to be governed by a Habsburg, I even prefer today's Germany. I also found Prussia's role in this video to be rather weak. Prussia won against Austria, Denmark and France for a reason. They would never have let the Habsburgs rule them. They would have remained an independent state.

[@senseianderson4571]

cry

[@wurzel9671]

Siede, Preiß.

[@noobymooby-ty8gh]

Chad Habsburg Diplomacy vs Virgin Prussian Militarism

[@martindumont9186]

The chancellor at the end of the video is the new President of the European Commission irl

[@trantor2135]

Alternate history of the FKI when

[@nizam5568]

When muslims take over europe (soon) inshallah

[@Masterchief_Tito]

Alternative title:what if germany never started a worldwar and austria accepted the German Unification

[@alexandruchirita4853]

"This video is too good" "Its rewind time"

[@Menkury]

Bei der Hintergrund Musik geht mir mein Deutsches Herz auf !

[@Harry-Hartmann]

Ein sehr interessante Video 👍🏻

[@riddlie787]

You probably are oberworked on these things, but will there ever be on on Czechia? For example what if the Habsburgs didn’t get the czech crownlands or what if Beneš wasn’t an absolute coward and fought a war he could win?

[@thealternatezeitgeist5950]

My Channel is more focused on the classical "storytelling mapping" but I am Thinking of doing more of these in the Future so...maybe

[@Gonboo]

Yeah, no. Britain would not allow the balance of power to shift and would have stepped in to either stop the war in 1849 or even aid Germany militarily.

[@nizam5568]

Also just asking, what states do you and rat come from?

[@thealternatezeitgeist5950]

I am from Northrhine-Westphalia and he's from Hessia

[@thealternatezeitgeist5950]

@Death Star II Essen

[@thealternatezeitgeist5950]

@Death Star II BMW

[@TheRatofMapping]

@@thealternatezeitgeist5950 Arrogant asshole you should never be allowed to drive.

[@TheRatofMapping]

@Death Star II VW probably if it were an option, simply because it's the most affordable, but since it isn't Audi.

[@hannesschwan6284]

The best thing about this timeline is, that no second world war happend, no mass murders occurred, germans can still be proud of they are and europe is in peace.. i would love if we could change our history to something similar

[@gotcha4649]

Finally, a perfect Germany 🇩🇪

[@arkantyne7122]

11:22 lol how did we warp back to 1872? Plz correct it

[@MrCubFan415]

9:56 Bonapartes in power until 1927?!?! :O

[@DMH-bt2zo]

God I wish the Germany depicted in this video exists in real life. Such an interesting concept.

[@thunderbird1921]

The only reason I see Austria not really joining Germany if treaties didn't bar them is because their culture is slightly different and it would possibly make them too powerful on the European continent.

[@TheCroatianMapper]

*Sees German Borders* Poland: eXucuSe mE wHaT thE fUCk

[@fesco4752]

13:49 as german i must laught so hard for the name of the prime minsister, because is our current defese minister, ursula von der leyen....

[@andrerothweiler9191]

You might be surprised but I think it's good that Germany don't have oversees territories. Just look France from immigration by former territories.

[@theghostrider760]

@Imperial Mapping Despite giving it a solid like to your own version of alternate German History, this scenario is weird from geopolitical stance. In this case, Germany is now a super-state. It controls the entirety of Central Europe and influences many other countries in it's sphere. Think about how this changes the balance of power in Europe. Germany no longer needs to compete about Central European dominance and is free to focus on other fronts, especially when its' reinforced by the Austrian and Czech Populations. Moreover, not a single land concessions outside of war should ever happen. Denmark would have a monopoly over the Danish Straits, therefore limiting the German Navy's movements in the region. Germany uses the Kiel Canal to transport its' commodities in order to bypass the Danish straits and shorten the trading routes in the North Sea. It should be only a matter of time before Germany reclaims these areas. Czech independence shouldn't happen as well. Perhaps some sort of autonomy, but creating such an entity that could be used against Germany as a base of operations by a foreign power, is not option for Germany. Slovenia as well. Germany would have an utter monopoly over the trade and transport of all the goods in Europe by controlling such a huge territory that stretches from the North Sea to the Adriatic Sea. If there was a diplomatic pressure and sanctions against Germany for holding Slovenia, I can see why it would give independence. Other then that, it wouldn't make any sense. I'm not gonna even ask what in the fuck is going on in Russia and the Middle East, since this video is about Germany, so I'll give the benefit of the doubt. If France annexes Wallonia, then Flanders should be annexed by the Netherlands. no reason to have Another Flemish speaking country, if Holland exists. When in your video the Russian Tsardom collapsed, Germany would be expending eastward. Taking back Czechia, parts of Poland and create a sphere of influence over the region. It makes no sense that Germany, a country that always desired to rule over these lands, isn't going to capitalize on this rare opportunity. In this scenario of Alternate history, Germany technically could create it's own "EU" and be a formidable rival to the British and the French. Considering how modernized Germany would be, and the fact that no Germanic and big international wars took place(Austrian and Prussian wars and the devastating effects over the German generations in the two world wars, where millions of young people died, basically ruining a future generation.), the population could potentially exceed 150 million( including the minorities in this German super-state.). Germany would posses Nuclear weapons, since it didn't have any foreign occupation and sanctions on itself. This would have such a giant impact in terms of global affairs. I really liked your work and the effort you put into it. I hope you would increase your realism in your future projects.

[@hubertnowak9406]

I think you should have put bigger German minority on the linguistic map in posen and surrounding areas

[@thealternatezeitgeist5950]

I have only shown majorities :)

[@UnluckyCantaloupe4]

50 shapes of silesia

[@davilox07_15]

My Spanish heart is broken when seeing Spain chopped into pieces, but overall it seems like a much better Europe.

[@creepi0n]

I don't think Lower Saxony would exist in this timeline cuz it was created by the allies. And sad there's no franconia. :( But great video anyway! :D

[@tonywagner1626]

Fun fact: There is likely a parallel universe where exactly this actually happened.

[@tonywagner1626]

If, at the end, we could add Oberschlesien, Posen, Schleswig and Elsaß-Lothringen, this would be perfect!

[@dantedante839]

Loraine for France and Alsacia for Germany.

[@felixmiles4909]

I'd like to see alternate history of Germany in which Germany is partitioned forever between Denmark, Poland, France and Netherland.

[@UnCommuniste]

"E" Germany, 2018

[@KamepinUA]

the only thing i looked at is Ukraine still interesting

[@dantheman3378]

Looking at it seems like you are Ukrainian AKA Russian let me give you a history about your fake nation on how it began after the first world war the Germans and the Austrians same thing wanted to create a temporary nation as puffer state against Russia if they ever went to war with each other it was also to weaken Russia so my point is spread the message to your kind also the name Ukraine means Borderland in Polish when Poland and Russia used to border each other and were the Polish used to live in the (Region) of Ukraine not the country of Ukraine because there's no is no country of Ukraine other than a fake state the region of Ukraine belong to 80% to Poland and rest Russia.

[@KamepinUA]

@@dantheman3378 go commit learn history from a real source instead from a russian one because of course a russian one will say that

[@dantheman3378]

@@KamepinUA Yeah you're one these Ukrainians Aka Russians who says Russian sources are false yet you don't not know were I got this source from and btw do you live in Poland ? Because if in Ukraine I would be surprised because of bidni .

[@KamepinUA]

@@dantheman3378 1.please fix your grammar i don`t understand you 2.I live in Ukraine

[@dantheman3378]

@@KamepinUA Bidni is poor literally you don't even understand Russian and you're from Ukraine and simply to say I didn't get the source from Russian propaganda I simply read why a fake nation like Ukraine became a nation became to exist and can I ask you a question do you support UPA .

[@anthonyappleyard5688]

I am trying to work out what has happened meanwhile in the Middle East. Going by the area colors as at time 14.38, am I right in making these guesses?:- (1) Bluish-green :: Kurdistan? (2) Dark purple, south of 1: Kurdistan? (3) Light green: Greater Syria? If so, what happened to Israel? (4) Light brown: Iraq? (5) Dark green: Arabia? Under what regime? (6) Dark brown, north of 1: Armenia? (7) Blue, north of 6: Georgia? (8) Bright green, by Caspian Sea: Dagestan? I see that there is a separate Basque state.

[@Nocreabo215]

I think 2 is probably assyria

[@Ellis-zr1qd]

How did Posen become part of Russia? Did I miss something?

[@jackmarrowmapping1176]

Can’t find that version of the Radetsky Marsch at 8:09, could you please name the artist

[@Arpads_Legacy]

One of the best alternate history of Germany what I ever seen!

[@saxo9266]

Does this mean the 2nd Schleswig war never broke out?

[@thealternatezeitgeist5950]

Yes

[@saxo9266]

Excellent video we didn’t lose Schleswig Holstein Alles ein sehr schön video, länge leve die vaterland!

[@kiankier7330]

nice video, and thank for giving Denmark Schleswig

[@hafizoktarisky2704]

Such a blessing this timeline would be.

[@llabavi367]

May I just tell you that the real name of the person you have a the German Chancellor in 2018 isn't Uschi Flinte (which is a parodic and offensive nickname for her) but Ursula von der leyen

[@thealternatezeitgeist5950]

I did that on purpose. I am German

[@Livin_Fossil]

11:21 the real date should be “jan 1972”, but it’s “jan 1872

[@Nassamest]

One of the best maps i've ever seen

[@larkinshay3251]

This was a really interesting scenario!

[@sdcard7129]

It's cool and all, but I much prefer the House of Hohenzollern over the Habsburgs

[@thedanishcommunist1535]

This is fine. - some Danish mapper

[@Tyork42]

13:10 Britain would already be in this war due to their alliance with Portugal

[@tonywagner1626]

I'm starting to believe, the actual timeline is the worst possible (for Germany)

[@realjunmaybe]

This is not alternate history of Germany, But it's alternate history of Europe!

[@poplo7680]

E seriamente il video di storia alternativa più belli che ho visto

[@MrCaliforniadream]

This is how Germany should look like!!! A great, proud Empire!!!

[@morsecode980]

Since Turkey got completely kicked out of Europe by Bulgaria in this reality, does that mean Istanbul is Tsargrad?

[@thealternatezeitgeist5950]

Yes

[@BatuhanDere]

12:30 we sing this in music class

[@TheChosenFailure]

“Rather mild peace terms”

[@mjaned0528]

Finally someone who knows the German empire of 1848!

[@nexustheninja1927]

how did Karl survive until the 1980s?

[@BrownyMapping]

Beautiful scenario, well done!

[@blackstormgaming1681]

Good video +1! Btw tnx for making bulgaria great again :D

[@spaghettification8658]

Amazing work!

[@SneedPatch]

In a situation where Germany doesn’t lose all of their colonies after the World Wars, Germany could have easily held onto Namibia even to today. The country is so sparsely populated that it wouldn’t have taken too many settlers for it to eventually become a majority German

[@NewRepublicMapper]

Why You Use The Weimar Flag?

[@thealternatezeitgeist5950]

Because this is not the "Weimar Flag" but the oldest flag for a United German Nation in History. Older than the Reichsflagge. It just wasn't used until Weimar