Amalek: Who Is Included?

[@GilbertGreich]

Todah Rabba!

[@fitzroyarmour7391]

It's all been foretold thousands of years ago Zephaniah 2:4-7 King James Version (KJV) For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and Ekron shall be rooted up.This is what's going to happen: Zechariah 14 1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee. 6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark: 7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light. 8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be. 9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one. 10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses. 11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited. 12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth. 13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour. 14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance. 15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague. 16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. 17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. 18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. 19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. 20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, Holiness Unto The Lord; and the pots in the Lord's house shall be like the bowls before the altar. 21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the Lord of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts

[@fitzroyarmour7391]

And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

[@flyingcat7975]

Who is Esav? The Europeans?

[@ganykaliya7811]

Present day all non-Jewish nations. There is a great misunderstanding of how Esav works. Esav takes over a nation from the inside and replaces the entire ruling class while enslaving or rendering the conquered nation as peasants. They often take on the name, language, culture and religion of the nation they conquer though not always.

[@johnmann8659]

@flyingcat7965 Rome and Cyprus (Chittim/Kittim). Gittin 56A 1 Chronicles 29:29-> Gad the Seer 2:15-25

[@persnicketypicker6748]

@@johnmann8659 Many interpret this as "The West" in general not just Europe. This would also include the United States.

[@Lokadottir]

Descendants of Romans

[@fitzroyarmour7391]

David's & Joshua war strategies = REPENT , FIX WHAT OFFENDS GOD THEN SEEK THE LORD YESHUA 🙏🏿 THE JEWISH MESSIAH

[@jtprobst1]

seeking man, does not please G-d, it offends him. Jc is not the jewish messiah. he was disqualified at conception, Numbers 1:18, Deuteronomy 23. Such an insult that you dare say fix what offends Hashem then say to seek to offend him.... insanity.

[@venuscraig748]

what did the halacha intended? it includes sexual perverts who murder their prey. it demonstrates amalek is a spiritual entity in the flesh rather than genetics. you shall not abhor esav, for he is thy brother.., would nt that apply to ishmael too? gets complicated when you treat amalek as his/their descendant.

[@ganykaliya7811]

Hashem in Malachi 1:3 says he hates (some translations say rejected instead) Esav, and genetics does play a role.

[@venuscraig748]

@@ganykaliya7811 god also said that we should not hate esav. so what if i do? when you hate, it requires no action, nonetheless. gd condemn amalek to it s destruction . i wonder a case may be made for amalek's judgment representing death sentence from premediated evil as oppose to the unconscious on the fly evil from both it s progenitors. yes, i know on a very superficial level , there s still people uneducated that conclude that amalek is here and that nation. to state germans in holocaust can be considered amalek is fair, because of the crimes committed, which was a combination of the evil of both ishmael and esav bad traits. germans are not in genetics related to amalek genetically, neither is ukraine. it s the equivalent of stating indians are scammers.. it s of poor reasoning to treat the judgment of destruction of a people on genetics. makes a jew sound like he did nt read enough torah.

[@BigJFindAWay]

What it says is that God hated Esau. In the past. It does NOT say God hates Esau now. But if his nation, Edom, acts the way Esau acted in his youth it will be rendered desolate. And no. Genetics plays no part in this at all.

[@venuscraig748]

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[@TomShumar]

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