AMAZING Traditional Fusion Rock! Wagakki Band '焔 Homura + 暁ノ糸 Akatsuki no Ito' | Musician Reaction

[@WavePotter]

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[@chifuhebat884]

Please see and react to the song - beggin ((keroncong) - by novia bachmid ft fivein cover👈👍

[@muxoc]

I love it when my fellow musicians notice technical, compositional and performance details that the rest of the reviewers don't care about. Thanks for the reaction!

[@thomashan4963]

You are one of very few people who acknowledge that guitarist tapping and singing at the same time. Instant like and subscribe ..

[@KebusuNiisan]

All of them are actually master-level musicians, virtuosos in their own craft with some of them used to represent Japan in worldwide cultural exchange programs. The vocal style Yuko is using is based on Shigin, an ancient Japanese way of reciting poems and she's a certified teacher of this art.

[@m.g.5073]

Here because of YT recs but I genuinely appreciate your reaction! Mayhaps the first time I've seen someone actually google for the duration of the video. I think that was cool of you to do.

[@ShikataGaNai100]

When Beni steps up with her tsugaru shamisen...everything changes...and then, Yuko sings...

[@denniseldridge2936]

Hi, I'm so glad you got to check out Wagakki Band finally :-) They've been a favourite of mine for a couple of years now (thank you KZbin!). A couple of things I've learned from following them in that time: - The name of the band, Wagakki, means simply Japanese instruments, or traditional Japanese instruments. - The singer's style is one used for traditional poetry readings, if I'm not much mistaken. She is also a wonderful pianist and fronts another smaller ensemble which plays far more reserved and beautiful arrangements. Also, she is an expert at the fan dances you see here, and sword dances which you can see occasionally in their live performances. - You asked about flutists who get to front rock bands - let's not forget the greatest rock flutist of all, Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull! I urge you to check their performances out, as they virtually created the prog rock genre, and are incredible musicians live. - Please do check out their other live performances, and certainly their music video for Senbonzakura (spelling?) which was a huge hit, and a great song in itself. They have some pretty spectacular performances, including one with a thousand swordsmen and women who seem to suddenly appear out of nowhere. It's a bit scary because if any of the band members stepped one inch in the wrong direction they'd be instant burger meat lol. - Wasabi the rock drummer is very appropriately named, as you'll see if you visit his YT channel. You may not learn much of his drumming technique, but you'll be very hungry by the end of many of the videos lol. All the best to you, and I really hope you can find time to cover much more of their work :-)

[@gatograto]

Great analysis and review as always. Did you notice that the guitar's got a capo, it was on the 5th fret in the first song and was on the 3rd in the second song. He always plays a guitar with an extra long neck for Japanese scale, and usually plays 7string but not this time. He actually a beast. He plays jazz, rock, metal, acoustic and sings pretty well. He never unleash him self and never goes wild playing at the edge of his capability, always stay under control and in ensemble, therefore we never know his limit. The singer, she is singing in a traditional poem recital "shigin" style in this song, but she also sing in regular western style too, or even mixes both technique in one song. She explains how she does it in this video clip with English sub. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h33YhmekfcyJsNE She also plays piano very well.

[@michaelpalmer3717]

I think we all go through the same emotions - what am I hearing, what am I seeing -this group have such talent and combine their expertise in traditional singing and instruments with rock. Just brilliant.

[@mightydegu]

You've found my other obsession/favorite band. Band-Maid is the best current pure rock band; Wagakki Band is the best fusion band.

[@huntress44]

Love how a lot of Wagakki Band fans are also Band-Maid fans 💓

[@PaleHorseShabuShabu]

Wasabi does get a mic at some shows, though from what I've seen, he sticks to backing vocals The singer, Yuko, can usually be seen with a mic in one hand and a fan in the other, though she does a fair amount of sword dancing (kenbu) on stage, too. Her mother was (is?) a piano teacher, and Yuko is a wonderful pianist as well. She has her own KZbin channel where she posts clips of herself playing the piano and signing, behind the scenes stuff, and recently, a solo music video. I'm not requesting a reaction to this, but if you're interested in her vocal style, here's a video where she explains how to sing "Senbonzakura," probably Wagakki Band's most famous song. The English subtitles are pretty good, so be sure to turn those on. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h33YhmekfcyJsNE Wagakki Band is quickly becoming one of my favorite music groups/acts. They always find that perfect blend of their instruments and voices, not every person is on every song, and they're always so entertaining. Their concerts in Japan have high production values, they're not afraid to go touch on other genres (their song "Synchronicity" is a perfect example of this), and they always seem to be having a good time. I recently found a channel that shows some videos from their defunct fan club where various members of the group go out and do stuff together, and even though there aren't subtitles, I can feel the chemistry between all of them. They're such a fun, interesting group with so much to discover.

[@limitlesscombo6998]

One of my favorite videos on the internet. In Okinawa we have a similar instrument, called the sanshin. It's a local snake's skin using a different pick. This song combines the best of both worlds to create something unique. To me it's almost an ode to holding onto or incorporating cultural roots in modern culture.

[@stevenhoeltzel500]

If you liked this one, check out their version of Evanescence’s “Bring me to Life” with Amy Lee. It’s amazing.

[@henriquechapisco]

You really need check all collabs with Amy Lee (Senbonzakura / Bring Me to Life / Sakura Rising )

[@WavePotter]

I will be checking that out very soon! And this is the only way i could find to contact you, but thanks so much for joining the channel! I really appreciate it!

[@leonmichaels2773]

Did you notice the lights between the frets on the Bass?

[@tonygriffin_]

Can't wait to see your cover of this! Especially Beni's Shamisen solo with a paint stripper shaped plectrum! Oh, and if you really haven't seen anyone rock out with aflute then check out Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull.

[@WavePotter]

Haha! Yeah i can't wait for that either... give me like 100 years. 😂

[@VladimirChupin]

@@WavePotter Jethro Tull is one of those Founding Fathers which everyone must know, in my opinion. Like, if you haven't heard Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Jethro Tull, King Crimson, Yes... don't listen to anything else yet. Go to the roots and cover the basics. One of my favourite albums from them: Jethro Tull Live In London 1977 16:9 HD (Full DVD) kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpqXqa2qrMh-rLc

[@VladimirChupin]

@@otobokegaijin6218 Maybe my tastes are different, I don't know 😉 But of all the American bands, I only listened to The Doors, I think. And then Metallica, but it was later. I'm talking here about rock music. Jazz was born in the US and always stayed there.

[@VladimirChupin]

@@otobokegaijin6218 Yeah, roots of rock are definitely in the US. Like, Chuck Berry and Elvis Presley. And jazz, of course, also comes from Black America, like Louis Armstrong, etc. I listened seriously to only one jazz band from Japan, Pe'z/Pe'zmoku. Great band. And, of course, all those projects with Senri Kawaguchi and Kanade Sato, I love them. But British Rock in the late 60s-early 70s was entirely different from American rock, in my opinion. The tip of the wave moved to UK, to go back to US in 80s. And now rock wave is in Japan, with a low ebb in all other countries.

[@ShikataGaNai100]

Shakuhachi - 8 Hole Flute Shigin singing...Yuko has won many national awards for Shigin singing. The tsugaru shamisen is amazing...imagine playing a Strat...with a cake spatula.

[@BM4-Life]

7:03 _Never seen someone rock out on a flute before_ should check out some *Jethro Tull* 😊

[@alex-rv-uk]

Welcome to your next rabbit hole Wave! Actually this isn't so much of a rabbit hole as an entire warren, as all of the members of this band are also involved in other musical projects and collaborations and all members are masters of their instruments. Check out their individual channels. For example Yuko is a classically trained singer in the traditional japanese shigin form and also an accomplished pianist. Your reaction to this video reminds me of when I first discovered this astonishing band.

[@jutenmu]

素晴らしい リアクション方式 でした。よく鑑賞して頂き､先ず 素直な反応……､そして基礎知識を 得て再度吟味し、愉しみながら 解説を施す。 ここまで丁寧にして頂けると、 和楽器バンドファンとしてとても 嬉しいです｡ 有難うございました。 リアクション動画を観て礼を言った のは、今回が初めてです✋😂🎶 （I beg your pardon. 　　　　　I can't speak English.） It was a great way to react. First of all, you appreciated there work carefully, then you described an honest reaction. And then you got basic knowledge of japanese traditional instrumentals and members while enjoying give an explanation. As a Wagakki-Band fan, I am very happy because you are so careful. Thank you. This is the first time I've seen a reaction video and said thank you. ✋😂🎶

[@palominokid3002]

So stoked you are reacting to this amazing band !

[@jeremydawkins8814]

Good to see you got them they have great shows and the Goddess Beni.

[@Highrider_Phil_C]

That's what I love about this band, their use of traditional instruments, they have an awesome sound. They remind me of the HU, another band that uses traditional instruments along with their style of throat singing.

[@WavePotter]

Yes! I was thinking that too! I actually just watched the Hu for the first time last week!

[@4thArmoredVet]

Thank you 🙏 for loving Wagakki Band😎

[@draconidmike]

love you reaction, you really enjoyed it and tried to learn more

[@phaeron]

Outstanding musicians who have a fantastic feel for combining traditional with modern. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 「 'Our rock never dies ever. Forever!' 」- from BAND-MAID 'Manners' 🕊️

[@rudigerpawlik2623]

Beni plays a Tsugaru-style Futozao (Thick Neck Size) Shamisen.The sharp, flashy style of tsugaru was played in the streets by the bousama (blind musicians) who developed a more lively style. Blind musicians at the beginning of the 20th century, including Shirakawa Gunpachiro Takahashi Chikuzan and sighted players like Kida Rinshoei developed a new style of play,based on traditional folk songs ("min'yo"),but with a lot Improvisation and eye-catching finger work. This style - known as Tsugaru-Jamisen, after the native region in northern Honshu - is relatively popular today in Japan. The virtuoso tsugaru jamisen style is sometimes compared to bluegrass banjo. The classic pick is called Bachi. The koto is a Japanese zither and the national instrument of Japan.The bamboo flute is called a shakuhachi and the second drum kit is a wadeiko The singer's very broad vibrato is typical of Shigin,a traditional poem concert style.Suzuhana Yuko, the singer of the Wagakki Band began studying the piano at age three and shigin from age five. She graduated from the Tokyo College of Music’s Piano Program. Yuko is currently active as a shigin instructor, singer-songwriter, and pianist. The style of dance that Yuko performs is called Kenshibu ('Sword and Poetry Dance') This is a category of Japanese interpretive dances performed to traditional music with poetry. Kenbu refers to dances that are performed with the help of a sword.and Shibu dance with one or more hand fans called Sensu / Ogi (folding fans).Kenbu or a sword dance refers in a broad sense to dancing holding a sword. Originally it refers to dancing especially to shigin (a form of Japanese poetry, which is usually chanted) with a sword drawn. The origin is from samurai. In the early Meiji period, Raifu HIBINO (originator of the Shinto school) organized the conventional dancing styles into the current ones by introducing some styles of swordplay.Singing and dancing are performed basically by different persons. The number of performers varies; sometimes one singer and one dancer, but often one singer and two or more dancers. There are no specific costumes for singers, but dancers wear a hakama (divided skirt for men), shiro-tasuki (white sash for holding up tucked sleeves), and shiro-hachimaki (white headband) to express the emotion of the poem.In some dances a fan is used along with a sword. Dancing to shigin with a fan only is called Senbu (literally, "fan dance") or Shimai (literally, "poetry dance"). Kenbu and Senbu can together be called Kensenbu (sword and fan dancing) The mask that Machiya wears is based on the Noe Theater, popular in Japan. Masks are an essential part of the Japanese Noh theater whilst the actors of the Japanese kabuki theater perform without masks. .

[@Glen.Black.]

Band members appearing out of thin air everywhere!

[@Glen.Black.]

Best part of the reaction was when you realized that there were two drummers after them being shown about 6 times. Caught me off guard. You are always so quick to see things that I never se. I finally saw something before you...LOL

[@WavePotter]

Very nice! 😂

[@ShikataGaNai100]

1. It is a mask used in Noe theater. 2. Beni is holding a bachi...the plectrum for a shamisen.

[@rakjr6]

The shamisen is being plucked by that large plectrum that looks like an paint scraper. It is called a bachi.

[@WavePotter]

I was so curious about that. Thank you for sharing!

[@hiawatha.g]

I've been waiting and hoping you would get to Wagakki Band. In Japan they are bigger than Babymetal. This is not the one I would have picked for a first go, but it's fun. Another link is below. So, some info: “Wagakki” is Japanese for “traditional instruments” The “lute” thing is a Shamisen. The “harp” thing is a Koto. The “flute thing” is a shakuhachi. The band was founded by the singer, SUZUHANA Yuko. The Shamisen player, Beni, is my jam. There are eight total members of the band, half on western instruments and half on Japanese instruments. Yes, you’ve heard these instruments a million times, in movie soundtracks, when they want to convey a Japanese atmosphere. Here is a video that really lets you see up close all the instruments and how they work together: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2PQloqhjNaWY6s It was originally written for a “Vocaloid” which is an electronic virtual singer-essentially an AI. In Japan (where else?) vocaloids have actually become pop stars. What can I say? America may be the land of technology innovation for things like social media, but in music no one here cares any more. Most of the creative action has moved to Europe and Japan.

[@TheLahaina0915]

02:45 Picking-harmonics for only one note at that speed without seeing it at all. You know, how difficult it is.

[@ElfInflicted]

I was waiting for you to get to this one and I'm glad to see you finally did. I suppose you could classify Wagakki Band as "folk metal" but somehow that doesn't quite capture what they are. You're absolutely right about the way they blend all those different instruments but still make them distinct. I'm glad you enjoyed them so much and I'm looking forward to more reactions to them. Specifically, I'm waiting for you to do their cover of Senbonzakura, so that I can then request you do the original and (hopefully) see your mind blown again. Also, nice job with the double consonant pause in "wagakki"!

[@WavePotter]

Thank you! And that sounds very interesting.

[@ElfInflicted]

@@WavePotter So yeah, I just submitted the request for it, because why not? To be done after you do the Wagakki Band version, of course. Enjoy!

[@valloriaamherst7607]

Beni on the shamisen (banjo) is picking with a mini japanese fan. It's traditional to play the shamisen with it. The way Yuko is singing is very traditional japanese. Please react to their cover of "Bring Me To Life" by Evanescence. Amy Lee actually performs with them alongside an orchestra. Amy and Yuko's voices really go well together.

[@renefrijhoff2484]

The instruments used: Modern are the electric guitar, electric base and a normal drum kit. Traditional are the Shakuhachi (flute), Koto (lying harp like instrument), Wadaiko (the traditional drums) and Shamisen (banjo like instrument). Singer Yuuko (normal writing Yūko) Suzuhana uses shigin, the traditional style to recite poems. They originally started out as a vocaloid cover band (most well known is Senbonzakura by Hatsune Miku), but are writing for some time their own songs. They have also different styles. A bit jazzy: Synchronicity kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKi7pZyKrdmcftU (full OMV version, there is also a bit shorter one) and the live version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYW6fIFspJirgac

[@falagar4567]

Wagakki Band is awesome. Their live performances are the best and there's a lot of them on KZbin.

[@rustygear447]

The Banjo-like instrument is called Shamisen. There's a new anime all about it called Mashiro no Oto. The performance in the 1st episode gave me chills. The Shamisen is an amazingly flexible instrument for just 3 strings.

[@Tibosan2]

Akatsuki no ito lyrics are used by the crowd in concert as an encore song

[@carlnietoweise4653]

A lot of traditional aspects in play here, The mask is from traditional Kabuki theater, watch Yuko's movements with her fan. Every movement has meaning as it's duplicating the movements of a Samurai sword. She's also using the traditional Japanese style of vocalization. The Shamisen and the Koto are traditionally played by Geishas' to entertain their clients while the shakuhachi has been called "the impossible flute" as it'd said to be a difficult instrument to master. As for the drums, they fall under the more familiar name "Taiko". The name Wagakki means Traditional. I always enjoy your delves into not only the gear end but also the musicality of a composition, thanks for a great review. I love how this band blends tradition with modern!

[@y.suzuki320]

👍👍👍 WAGAKKI BAND + AME LEE ・ Bring me to life 🎵🎶👍

[@dpm1057]

It's funny that you say Steve Vai... I always thought Homura sounded like some early Joe Satriani. Either way, I think this is an epic performance. I need to see this live in person.

[@Logan-Wolverine]

Da ascoltare la band giapponese Fragile,che suona una musica tra rock,fusion e progressive,tipo i Tribal Tech per intenderci...bravi davvero!!!Ascoltare per credere...

[@K.H.D710]

For you next Wagakki Band song, my suggestion is either 1. Senbonzakura - fast tempo fun song. Its MV has over 140 million views!!! 2. Synchronicity - composed by Yuko (Vo.). It is an interesting fun song. Yuko is also a multi-instrumentalist. They are very unique and fun band, and all members are very talented musicians.

[@niiru4336]

Great! Now you are familiar with two of my three favourite Japanese bands, Wagakki Band, Band Maid, I'll keep the third secret for now, just to see if you stumble across them. :-)

[@Cammy6969]

it is called a Shamisen

[@danaaxelson6200]

The type of flute he plays is called shakuhachi. Usually they start when their about 4 or 5 years old. Is very difficult instrument to play. It took me 4 weeks to just get my first tone. The umbashur is so hard to get tones out of. Most masters play seated, but with great posture. It is amazing to me that he can jump, dance, stand on one foot. Mask is from Japanese Noh theater, which when you watch traditional Noh theater, it is really no theater at all. Old joke. I’ve been playing shakahachi, flute, for a few years and still not so good. All the traditional instruments played by musicians who have been playing since they were children. The big drums, or taiko, also have very interesting history. Originally played only by women, they undergo training that would challenge any cross fitter.

[@lirazel2001]

What, never seen someone rock out with a flute?! What about Jethro Tull? ;)

[@WavePotter]

Yes my viewers made sure I saw Jethro Tull after that comment! 😂

[@lirazel2001]

@@WavePotter Ok, just found out about this Japanese band less than 6 hours ago :) Fun fact: in 1989, folk rockers Jethro Tull pipped Metallica to win Best Hard Rock/Heavy Metal Recording award; after that, many critics about the band to be hard rock, and certainly not heavy metal... Then the record company placed an ad in Billboard magazine with the strapline: "The flute is a heavy, metal instrument." 😁

[@pujek2259]

i recomended next Tsuki ni sakebu yoru live or hanafurumai live from wagakki band.. 🤘🤘🤘 metal mixed traditional genre

[@michaelhall9845]

You are surprised to see a flautist rocking out crazily in a rock band? You are young. Check out Jethro Tull from late 60s & 70s. Ian Anderson may not have been a virtuoso flautist, but he was twice as crazy.

[@dakken74]

If youre enjoying the Shamisen I would check out the -Yoshida Brothers- 2 brothers that play the Shamisen and infuse modern styles of music.

[@KANARI-OSSAN]

Recommended song.　→　和楽器バンド / Bring Me To Life with Amy Lee of EVANESCENCE　kzbin.info/www/bejne/npyUeKePgJx1gK8

[@kyriellepunongbayan6909]

do more wagakki bro... you missed yuko's amazing traditional fan dancing

[@MAWLSCORNER]

A : Hey bro. I joined with a rock band B : Oo really ? What instrument do you play ? A : Flute. B : ..............

[@expshomu]

I'm always enjoying your videos. Your reaction and analysis is on a different level compared to other stuff. I've been waiting for your reaction to Wagakki Band. Amazing live band. I reccomend this one. Wagakki Band - 知恵の果実 (Chie no kajitsu)+ 什麼生説破(Somosan seppa) / HALL TOUR 2017 四季ノ彩-Shiki no Irodori- kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZKmZ42PZbCMjMU Best regards,from Japan.

[@longcastle4863]

Speaking of two drummers have you ever got into the Allman Brothers playing Whipping Post live at the Fillmore?

[@janwoo1683]

They don't use traditional instruments, but the atmosphere is similar. Onmyouza - Ningyo No Ori (Live) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaPYd2esfrmardE

[@powbobs]

Machiya’s mask, stances and movements. Are from traditional Japanese Noh Theatre. He’s playing a custom 29 fret guitar by Sago Guitars. Beni has a beautiful voice, but she doesn’t sing much anymore. She damaged her voice. When she used to be a traditional Japanese folk singer. The traditional singing style, Shigin, is very demanding. Yuko is a master and teacher of the Art of Shigen.

[@OldMrB]

Hi I have sent you an email with a link you might like to check out.

[@JuanSan66]

Awesome band. Only in Japan!

[@missandei8371]

Great reaction. Please react to the live "和楽器バンドWagakki Band / Bring Me To Life with Amy Lee of EVANESCENCE" of Wagakki Band. This is so good cover.

[@paulread4886]

jamisan is played wit a geisha hair comb.

[@nickolai2679]

If you liked Homura then you should check out chie no kajitsu.

[@charleslatora5750]

Flute? Jethro Tull. Locomotive Breath

[@jmetallover]

Never saw someone rock out with a flute before....oh Mr. Potter shame on you, the great progressive band Jethro Tull with Ian Anderson the AD/HD demon leader who played often on one leg in between jumping all over the stage check it out (Locomotive Breathe LIVE kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4S4lZ-LotmaabM) a world class Flutist who made the flute part of rock in the 1970's!! This band is stunning and the fusion of old and new is awesome. Much like the Hu (Mongolian) except the Hu has more of a Rock/Metal edge (especially with the throat singing) while the traditional Japanese instruments soften these songs and the vocalist is doing the traditional nasal sounds. Amazing what music you can create when you have the skill and the gifted ability these musicians have.

[@hard2512]

Please reaction cakra khan - tennessee whiskey ,,,, thanks 😍😍

[@ht7853]

Request reaction talenta Indonesia Ayu Gusfan cover by Joe Satriani 🇲🇨🙏

[@muto4055]

I guess you're familiar to the traditional instruments cuz you've listened to Band Maiko🙄. Wadaiko, Shamisen, Shakuhachi, Koto. In Band Maiko Akane was hitting a Kozutsumi(handy drum).

[@ckiemnstr345]

My first real exposure was through the game Ōkami back in '06 but that's Japanese myths the game so it makes sense.

[@zabriabubakar5982]

Bro, check out HANABIE song We Love Sweets, and plz do the drum cover for this song..... :)

[@ht7853]

Request reaction talenta Indonesia Baim finger by Ozielzinho-Isbella 🇲🇨🙏

[@ht7853]

Request reaction OKI Fadlan drummer Deadsquat from Indonesia 🇲🇨

[@nellybod8742]

Rocking flutist is not a new idea.. Maybe you should search Isle of Wight Festival 1970 check out some Jethro Tull. Or any of their early Albums Benefit or Aqualung are my favorites

[@VladimirChupin]

Something like this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpqXqa2qrMh-rLc Jethro Tull Live In London 1977 16:9 HD (Full DVD)

[@mrz80]

"I've never seen someone rock out with a flute before!" *cough*cough* Jethro Tull, anyone? *tsk* Kids these days have NO sense of history! :P :P

[@ht7853]

Request reaction Isyana Sarasvati feat Deadsquat from Indonesia 🇲🇨

[@danaaxelson6200]

Wait till you hear Gacharic Spin.

[@lurkmerchant]

Anything they did around 2017 are awesome although they start sound more and more like evanescence, or a visual kei band playing with traditional instruments, which is a disappointment. You should check yoshiwara lament, synchronicity, irohauta, gobousei live as well.

[@uyyejogjalt2528]

REQUEST... SUPER MARIO THEME SONG ALIB BATA

[@ICANanimations]

If you combined the intro its a 3 for 1 but there is no better way to introduce the band than these preformances

[@WavePotter]

It was a very enjoyable and fascinating introduction!

[@rizalsh4202]

Please reaction cover alip ba ta songs vertical horizon- best i've ever had..🙏🏻

[@永安彌生]

かい

[@maximushaughton2404]

The singing style is from Kabuki. Fuki from Unlucky Morpheus uses it as well, but people tend think it's operatic, but it's not. It's a style of singing 2 notes at the same time. Just realised you've not done Unlucky Morpheus, only the sub-unit of them. Shame on you. You'll have to fix that. Unlucky Morpheus - Angreifer