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[@Homesteadhow]

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[@wilfredfish6570]

My fan stops an will go back on while the is still going ??

[@neuralglitch9063]

Great that it doesn't depend on electricity, which frequently goes out where I live, but a few well placed ceiling fans do a great job of pushing that warm air around. Heat rises to the top of the ceiling, but a ceiling fan, blowing downward, will push that heat back down to the floor where it will spread out to other connecting rooms. Works great til the power goes out....lol. This little fan is good to have around in that case. A ceiling fan in the new office, blowing in reverse (sucking air up) will draw the heat into that room. Just something I learned living on a mountain in Maine, where cold gets "extreme".

[@kt11540]

Sometimes I wish I could slide to the bathroom in the middle of the night instead of tripping over phone chargers! 😆

[@carloscarlos7044]

Who you kidding ? You didn't get that slide for Katie you got it for yourself . God bless you ya big kid

[@YannRodrigue]

Nice video, I laughed at "that slide would fit perfectly" seeing that you had to "shim it" with something two feet high.

[@stefanbachrodt7072]

I'm thinking of getting one for the ol'man and his freezing old brick house, looks to be promising and well priced, think he'll appreciate it. Just a tip for you, try mounting a small electrical fan to the top of the doorway leading to your office / bedrooms, you'll find that doing so will be far more effective at directing the heat into those particular areas. Also, the device used to power the motors is called a "Peltier Module / Pad" and works on the same principle as a Stirling engine / motor - that being the difference in temperature. Really neat technology and not all that cheap either so if you consider the price of the module plus all the aluminum, then the price of these units basically borders on giveaway prices. Well worth the money! Anyway, that's my 2 cents.. Thanks for sharing your experience, much appreciated! =))

[@johnmcclain3887]

About fifteen years or so ago, a friend dropped off a rusty 300 gallon propane tank, which I stood on end and made a wood stove out of, to heat my shop. I noticed a dead fan laying in the scrap, and a couple other bits, put an old dental pick, sharp point, into a two inch piece of old pushrod for an engine, which the fan fit snug, set screw, and set this in a block on top of the stove. The rising heat turns the fan, and it heats the shop twice as fast as when no fan at all, a full stove keeps it at about 1500 rpm. Semper Fidelis.

[@Homesteadhow]

Awesome build! 😊 🙏

[@rockymtndieselrider1133]

Just bought one. Good for looks and decor. Doesn't really do much.

[@trevino37]

I Keep reading the same, on how little it actually works. I am wondering if its the long term effect that we should look for and not the immediate fell of air flow....just as it takes time for residual heated air to heat another room, maybe the effect of the fan pushes that residual heated air a little faster compared to no fan at all...

[@Taco1.2]

I dont see a damper in your stove pipe. If you dont have one, thats the reason you are have heating issues. The damper will stop the heat from escaping so quickly and will make your wood last longer by slowing the burn.

[@toro5338]

Hi ! I have been heating the house with a wood stove since 1999. In my first stove there was a damper in the pipe. Well, I have to say that I hardly ever used it. Why ? Especially since in a good stove there is an air regulator already inserted in the body. This allows for the best inlet airflow to maximize initial combustion. Then, when the combustion is good, you can "choke" the incoming air flow a little, doing so will decrease the oxygen supply. In this way you will "keep" more heat inside the compartment, also saving wood. Usually, like my recent stove, there are two. The primary air flow regulator at the inlet (it is mounted below or parallel to the level of the fire), the other, let's call it secondary, will regulate the outlet of the smoke flow. (as it was placed in the tube years ago) That is placed in the body of the stove, right above the fire compartment and before the start of the smoke pipe. In conclusion, the external straight pipe will look better and the internal cleaning will be easier. I wish you a healthy winter.

[@trevino37]

if the max operating temperature is 350F, how do you keep it from getting damaged if most wood stove top temperature is about 500-600 F?

[@ratcat7668]

Any idea what maximum temperature these can handle before the electric motor fails?

[@foxtrot2348]

He said multiple times that it doesn't use electricity, therefore there is no electric motor. There are motors that can run only on a heat differential

[@foxtrot2348]

Well maybe anyway there's a picture on Amazon saying remove it from stove if it exceed 650°F so there's your answer I guess

[@spyrosbellos2522]

@@foxtrot2348 that fan has a peltier device in it. If you apply a voltage to it, one of it's sides will heat up, and the other will cool down. But it can also work the opposite way, if you heat one side more than the other the peltier device will produce a certain amount of volts which will depend on how many degrees difference there is between the two sides. That voltage is then used to power the electric motor.

[@plants4thewin]

that slide is EVERYTHING!!! Katie is lucky!

[@ДимаСвобода-ц9н]

-Yuo super! -Hello from Russia ! ! ! ! ! ! !

[@charleslincoln5357]

Very nice I have moved into a fire place run home in “DECEMBER” lol fail on fire wood point of view so I am stacking a lot of smaller cut dead fall/standing close but off to the side of stove so I will be looking into this to get heat directed towards my partially frozen wood

[@AgeofDoom]

Especially the warm air can diffuse on its own. Everything we use that adds air to the house has a loss of temperature. The air always wants to leave the house resulting in the introduction of new cold air.

[@chrismafilovski8352]

How much noise does it make? Mt woodfire does have a fan inbuilt, although even on the lowest setting its a little too loud.

[@oldrango883]

These fans are silent. However they move less than 100th of a CFM of air. Cool to watch hit they are absolutely useless in function. This guy has a link to Amazon to get you to buy it and even he knows damn well it doesn’t move air!

[@Corteese1980]

A $20 box fan would be exponentially more effective. FYI, it operates from a Peltier electric generator (heat differential creates dc current).

[@EarthToTroy]

Wrong. These units radiate the stovetop heat to fins that act as metal to air heat exchangers. Much much more effective even tho it blows slower.

[@Corteese1980]

​ @EarthToTroy Thank you for your thoughts on efficiency. When i stated the box fan was more "effective", i was mostly considering proficiency and value. But I am happy to discuss efficiency as well. Let me see if I understand your statement. You are pointing out that the radiant heat from the stove will be absorbed by the fan blades of the EcoFan, then transferred into the house via convection, and stating that this is slow but efficient. Efficiency of the fans: The EcoFan is a DC motor supported by a Peltier module while the Box fan is an AC motor supported by Line AC power. While DC motors are slightly more efficient than AC, since Peltier modules generally run between 5-10% efficiency the Ecofan efficiency is cut down. Now, on the good side the efficiency failure in the Peltier is just heat that was not converted to electricity and we want heat so this doesnt really hurt the argument for the Ecofan. However, the thermal energy which is converted to current and used in the DC motor will not be used as heat in the house. So, the argument of efficiency is given a slight edge to the DC motor in the Ecofan. Heat transfer: Heat is transferred through three ways: Radiation, Convection, and Conduction. The heat that we get from a wood stove in our homes is mostly convection, but there is some radiation, and if you put a pot of water on your stove you can use a bit of conduction to heat that water into water vapor. Like the pot, the Ecofan is gets most of its energy through Conduction (the base of the fan touching the top of the stove), while the second half of the Peltier module uses Convection to get rid of the heat. If the stove mostly provided convection or radiation, the Ecofan would not work as it requires the temperature difference from the stove top to the air above to convert the heat to electricity. An interesting phenomena with the Ecofan system is that the more heat is removed from the fins, causes more power to be converted by the Peltier, causing the fan to turn faster, causing more heat to be removed from the fins. This is called the P-delta effect by structural engineers. Unlike structures, this wont collapse, but rather will find a state of equilibrium. However, if you stovetop is hot yet the fan is not blowing, then you can jump start the fan by cooling the fins (this will add more power to the DC motor). Also, the more of these fans you use in series, the better they all work. Effectiveness: Ecofan can run at a theoretical cfm of 150 (according to the manufacturer), but outside of the lab settings this should be expected to be notably less (based on heat control on the Peltier module). A typical box fan ranges from 1,100 cfm to 2,500 cfm (7-16x the Ecofan lab setting) and this value is reliable as long as you live in the US where the power grid is strictly controlled to 120V. The Ecofan at max speed uses 15 watts while the box fan at low speed (1,100 cfm) uses about 40 watts. So the amount of airflow per watt is 2.75 times more efficient for the box fan. Cost: The cost of the box fan is that you have to pay for the power used in electric cost (~13 cents per kWh) while the power used in the Ecofan is wood cost (average cost purchased wood: ~4 cents per kWh). The average cost per kWh for is ~3.25 times greater for Line power than wood power. With all that, the efficiency of the Ecofan to move air per cost is ~18% greater than the box fan (3.25/2.75). However, the average person does not care about fan efficiency per cost: they care about how much these fans improve the efficiency of heating their homes. As the wood stove mostly provides heat through convection, the more air you can move away from the stove, the more efficient it will be. While the Ecofan boast about 150 cfm, that will only work on a very hot stove under lab conditions and the hotter the stove surface, the more heat that is lost through the flue. So, the Ecofan operates most efficient when the most heat is being lost out the flue... This is not a good system for the home owner. The speed of the box fan can be controlled by the home owner so they can keep adjust the fan such to pull the maximum Convective heat from the stove, therefore maximizing the heat value they get from the wood. Overall, the use of a variable speed fan which is blowing around the outside of the stove will provide exponentially more value for the home owner. That being said, if you want cheap entertainment, the Ecofan can be purchased for ~$50 and absorbs minimal heat to turn. I owned one on my last stove and it was kinda nice to have the soothing slow turn of the fan while i was relaxing. However, i got tired of the poor efficiency of the stove, so i now have a double walled stove (with a variable speed blower) for which the air intake vents through the top to provide reburn effect. This system is not as fun as my last stove, but uses half the wood. The double wall with blower allows the outer wall to remain cool to the touch (not gonna burn myself or the house) while cranking the heat into the room. The only down side is that i cannot use the Ecofan for entertainment or boil water on the stove. But for the hundreds of dollars a month i save along with not having to load the stove multiple times through the day, it is a tradeoff i am glad to make.

[@J_Trask]

@@Corteese1980 the point of that fan is if you don’t have any power either from the utility or from a generator. Simple as that.

[@corn1971]

@@Corteese1980 Who wants to hang an unsightly box fan above their stove? These are about improving hot air movement in the room at low cost and not being intrusive or ugly.

[@Corteese1980]

@@corn1971 Yes, box fans are not attractive, but these pettier fans do not do what they claim to do. They look cool, but that’s about it. There are a lot of options in between. I would suggest a nice turbo fan that hides in the back of the stove. But, you do you, buddy. 👍

[@SavageEuge]

Will it work in front of a gas fireplace insert?

[@johnjohnson4090]

Great concept for storing free energy!!

[@zacherynagy8445]

What brand of wood stove is that? That appears to be the perfect size I neex

[@kdriscoll57]

I have an Invicta wood burner, it has an enamel paint finish and stove top fans refuse to work on it, Why? Is it to do with the paint??

[@davidallred2947]

Con - The blades could cut the fingers of small children that climb up on stove.😂😂😂

[@marksmith4462]

I have an insert that doesn't protrude very far out from the fireplace. So I was wondering how deep the base that comes in contact with the heat source is? 2"? 3"?

[@scubasteve3032]

So how does it work?!

[@JonathanGrandt]

Does it make a difference if the fan is at the rear or front of the stove? Just wondering. I don’t have one yet.

[@Homesteadhow]

The hotter the surface the faster it turns. Front of our stove gets hotter. Thx

[@ASHORSHEMAYA]

Sorry, but what I hate about this kind of videos, where I want to know more about something, but a channel like this one, take me left and right.. talking about things I don't care about..

[@Homesteadhow]

Sorry, free content. If I did a 30 second video on one specific topic it would likely fail.

[@se7encureton]

I have a propane fireplace and I’m thinking it would still work? What do you think sir?

[@causetheplumstasteyum7848]

Technically it should , really depends how much heat the fireplace throws out

[@se7encureton]

Iv since moved deeper into country and it’s just wood. I’ll be buying a fan like this soon for the new placeZ thank you!

[@paulfenwick8968]

hi how good is the fan outdoors, thanks

[@kenlafex1151]

Con? If the stove is hot, having a little one put his finger in a fan is too close to the stove anyway.

[@bidinbrian16]

Using a couple fans on stove more efficient

[@JerryChanD]

Anyone try this with using on a radiator? I am curious in this but using on radiators.

[@Homesteadhow]

I'm interested to know as well, I'm not sure. If it gets hot enough it should work. Hope someone else comments if they have

[@danielroden9424]

that slide is gonna snap in half if you keep yeeting like that lol

[@Homesteadhow]

Fat shamed :)

[@danielroden9424]

@@Homesteadhow its uhhh not supported in the middle. yeah thats it!

[@Homesteadhow]

@@danielroden9424 in fairness your retrospective fat shaking worked, I've dropped 60 lbs since that video!

[@emmabanes5330]

Dad total cringe 😅😅😅 but love it keep up the good work!!

[@Homesteadhow]

What Emma? a grown man playing on an indoor slide is cringey? 😬

[@bossman6627]

I thought the slide was awesome! I need to get me one of those!

[@Homesteadhow]

@@bossman6627 it's fun. I thought a zipline would be too much, but a slide just right!

[@MrMarkar1959]

they are dang nice,,,but,,,the chip will burn out at 660F. stove thermometer is good to keep it functioning. also, i believe there are replacement( rebuild) kits on the market should it quit,,and you wonder why. Peace and Good Luck!!

[@Homesteadhow]

Thank you- I've been meaning to add a thermometer on here.

[@trevino37]

exactly my thoughtsd, since most wood stove operated at 500-600 stove top temp. Not good for these fans so what;s the purpose? Though of adding a tiny fire blanket under it or maybe place it on top of a brick or someting that would not burn our the motor....just thoughts and reason i have not bought one yet. My stove normal operating temp iS 600+ and best at 700-750. Not sure how this fan will last

[@hazley13]

Can more than one be used?

[@Homesteadhow]

Yes!

[@heinzkitzvelvet]

I have two England's brand stove fan's. A third is on its way. By a confluence of events, I got them all for $109.83! They're $80 each at Home Depot.😜

[@jerimiahake]

You should buy another one.

[@johntierney9422]

How long do they last tho ?? 🤔

[@Homesteadhow]

Mine is still turning 4 years later..Heat every day in winter

[@MichaelJosephJr934]

I have a tradition ceramic gas log fireplace. Can I set a fan like this on the hearth to pull some heat into the room?

[@Homesteadhow]

I dont think so, the surface must get very hot for this to work

[@heinzkitzvelvet]

I think most start working at roughly 130°. To get the fan turning full speed requires surface temperatures of 450°+. I have a stand alone, gas heat stove in my living room. 20,000 btu I believe, BUT it has a deflector shield inside the burn chamber to prevent the top of the stove getting too hot. The stove top, at full gas, only reaches about 150° because of the deflector, so the fans (I have 2) don't turn very fast. In my garage, I have a 55 gallon, steel barrel rocket stove set-up that reaches over 900° if I'm not careful. The fans have a 650°F maximum operating temperature. I like to keep them on a spot that's 550°F or less, and they run like champions and move lots of air. I'm soon to have a third fan that will increase circulation even more.

[@jrworsham8270]

What kind of stove is that in the video?

[@irakas23]

This fire pit is one of a few covered pits that is on the list kzbin.infoUgkxAU9pOCSV9Y5JprooHvfxTpOrt4hx8uRM of approved products for Disney Fort Wilderness. The product served its purpose well and provided excellent fires throughout the evening. We were able to open the door and do s'mores, but I had to be careful because the handle was a bit hot on occasions. Additionally, I wish they had replaced some of the standard nuts with lock nuts in some places. We lost the door handle after just a couple of days of usage. Not a deal breaker, just a recommendation. I still give it 5 stars.

[@tammyjanis509]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@icreatecrafts8462]

Another informative video!

[@CatHound]

What is so amazing about it????

[@solid2713]

whats the temp the fan will spin?

[@ShenzhenVODATechnologyCoLtd]

50

[@puertoropelu2257]

For a older 4 bedroom farmhouse, how do you spread heat if the wood stove would be in the living room?? Would you cut fans into the walls etc?? Anyone have an idea ?

[@ChrisPavlides]

for this, get an idea how energetic fireplaces works with heat air. i mean, imagine 3-4 pipes goes into fire to get really worm and with a fan you can get that hot air into other rooms. It's like some fireplaces that have heat pipes to get worm the water. there is a way but it needs tools,hands and the knowledge to do it... it's not easy mate.

[@sequoyah9367]

A heat transfer kit is what you need

[@trevino37]

i just place a small fan behind the stove with a speed control extended type cord (from Home deport) and point it towards the direction of where the rooms are. It takes time but it works. The residual heated air will flow eventually, but takes a long while before my whole house of 1100 sq ft is warmed.

[@metallion25]

I think the little ones coming too close to the burning stove to touch the fan is more of concern than the fan itself.

[@frostyguy2336]

Why not buy 3 and have all 3 blurring in different directions?

[@topivaltanen4432]

Is this working in floor front of fireplace?

[@Homesteadhow]

It has to be on top of the wood stove- it needs the heat from the stove in order to power it

[@topivaltanen4432]

@@Homesteadhow Thanks!

[@oldrango883]

These fans absolutely move less than a CFM. They are nice little science toys but are useless. I have this very fan and it cannot even register a CFM on my Anemometer. That means it can circulate zero air and is as useful as a hood ornament. It’s a shame people will make false reviews to get folks to click on their Amazon link.

[@chrisbell5032]

If any kid puts it's fingers on it, it might not be it's only injury.

[@OmegaWalple]

something I have seen in Bulgaria and other videos from the EU that I have not seen in the US is a fireplace heat exchange/radiator, I will try to email you an image if the link for a picture doesnt work ... i.pinimg.com/236x/29/05/3a/29053a456bbb42e70a4519631bdcd4c7--wood-burning-stoves-wood-stoves.jpg

[@SwapSupra]

wow i want one !!!! that seem pretty good idea instead of loosing all that head trought the chimney we can extract a bit :D cleaning must be a pain in the ass tho

[@noneone8726]

How is that ladder attached? Looks very dangerous.

[@Homesteadhow]

It's pretty secured

[@paulrichardson7905]

How far can this fan move the air?

[@Homesteadhow]

It's hard to say. It's no very strong, but over the course of the day seems to get noticeable amount of warmth into my adjacent office

[@trevino37]

Its not a matter of how far you can feel the air being pushed but creating an air flow path where residual heated air can travel a little faster with it. With out the fan, the residual heated air hits the ceiling before moving in other directions. using a regular fan will do the same but it will also cool the heated residual air more then desired. I use a regular small fan but added a speed control cord to slow donw the fan speed to prevent cooling the heated air but using electricity, which is the con....hope to switch to these fans as well

[@paulrichardson7905]

I viewed this fan and did a little competition between it and a cheap use plastic box fan placed in the room but blowing air in the room across the wood fire. The plastic box fan did a much better job of moving air to heat the room.

[@johnrichardson8048]

First con is kind of a non issue isn’t it? By the time a little one has touched the fan, they’ve already burnt the absolute fuck out of themselves on the wood heater. Wouldn’t you say?

[@ChrisPavlides]

i see too many of those and i CAN't believe that they are actually working. I mean, i can't get it. heat goes up, right. this fan push the heat lets say 1 meter away and then again it goes up again. i dont believe this is working, no, it's really hard to believe that this is doing work into houses. Maybe into tents but in big areas like houses? no way!

[@Homesteadhow]

Thermal gun has shown it to work .its not a blast of air or strong force but it does circulate it

[@sdavis7916]

That slide. One word.. Stitches.

[@Homesteadhow]

I nearly died testing it!

[@Sighchean]

You should have gotten two.

[@OscarTorres-ej9gr]

Man??!!!...did you say ten cords of wood in a year??!!!...ouch...

[@rateyesmertz3785]

They don't work that good. Got a cathedral ceiling ? Put a ceiling fan up there where it blows the hot air down. A ceiling fan will circulate more CFM than that piddling thing. So won't a heat reclaimer on the stove pipe.

[@blakebauer2722]

Actually, it works best to reverse the fan to pull the air up and disperse out for the heating months, and then switch it back to blowing down for the cooling months.

[@jonnybeware6598]

Hello people… the non-electric stove fans are not truly ’fans’. They are pinwheels. They are pushed by air, not pushing air. Just observe the angle of the blades and direction of spin… the heat from the iron frame behind is causing hot air to rise, thus drawing less hot air through the blades. Pinwheel… not actually moving air whatsoever.

[@Homesteadhow]

I disagree..people have tested these..take 2 of these fans... place fan A on non heated surface with wires running to base of another fan B on heated surface and fan a turns from the electricity generated on the heated surface

[@jonnybeware6598]

@@Homesteadhow My bad. I was unaware there’s an electric motor inside. My only reference is a fan I inherited from a relative which is simply a fan… no motor whatsoever. It’s blades spin in a way that is reverse to a push of air. It’s a pinwheel gimmick. My apologies!

[@Homesteadhow]

@@jonnybeware6598 no worries! Its amazing technology.. no battery ...heat converted to electricity powering the little motor!

[@karsenwhite631]

DO NOT GET IT MELTS WE HAD ONE

[@lightshadow3101]

if cost only 30 on ebay bruh 😎 😎 😎

[@joebovovitch7803]

Three times bigger be better

[@timneal5617]

China

[@dinokross3844]

Make sure you have a carbon monoxide detector alarm, God forbid.

[@Homesteadhow]

We have 2 thanks

[@glbrickman]

You talk toooo much about nothing.

[@Homesteadhow]

Just click and watch another video or make a better video. Thx for commenting!

[@MrJthf9]

@@Homesteadhow eh you do talk alot.

[@Homesteadhow]

@@MrJthf9 thats why I make the big bucks!

[@MrJthf9]

@@Homesteadhow #eattherichandeatmyass

[@shawnburt5653]

@@Homesteadhow pay no attention to the know it alls,great vid

[@CamppattonFamilyCompound]

First

[@Homesteadhow]

Nice timing!

[@rickbradleysr.3553]

These things are total junk. My lasted less than 6 months!

[@Homesteadhow]

Really, its been 4 years for ours. Last year it ran nearly every day for 6 months straight, still running great

[@fozalinko]

lost me at amazon

[@timborg770]

Completely useless as hot air ascends rapidly just inches in front of the fan. It serves no purpose other than looking at. A useless gimmick.

[@heinzkitzvelvet]

WRONG! Clearly, you do not own one of these fans. They move enough air to blow your hair around. Yes, heat ascends rapidly. Yes, a portion of hot air moves in a forward lateral direction. It's simple physics and it works.

[@lightshadow3101]

@Heinzkitz Velvet Here’s a good boii!