MCU Iron Spider SUCKS & how Marvel RUINS classic costumes

[@pizzatime4204]

Hot take: I actually like the iron spider in the mcu. Like I don't really see how it's overdesigned since there's less lines than the stark suit, and the lines on the knees and shoulders actually makes sesne since they could be for extra movement. I also have no problem with the lights since ironman during that time also had lights around his suit. Laslty I just don't see how the suit being cgi is an issue. It's literally a skintight nanotech suit with no wrinkles in it. That's impossible to be made practically

[@amazingpsm]

I would argue that both of these have the same amount of lines, but the homecoming suit is a slightly edited classic suit, which automatically boosts it up in quality. While the leg lines may have a use, that doesn't mean that they automatically work into the design. I didn't think about the LEDs that way, that does make them much more tolerable. The suit being CGI is particularly an issue for me because I enjoy the costume making side of super hero movies, and removing that element really takes the fun out of it for me. You could always CGI around a practical suit too, if the suit was real, and Tom only had the mask off, they could have the nanotech CGI come in, then have him wearing the real mask in the next shot.

[@pizzatime4204]

@@amazingpsm I kinda see your point, but I just think fabric wouldn't work for this iron spider outfit. Metal has this certain feel and look to it. It's supposed have this heft and look very protective, which can't really be replicated with fabric. No matter how shiny or how much details you put into it, it will still come off across as just shiny fabric, and not this protective armor, which would be more apparent when the suit is next to iron man. I also think having panel lines throughout a suit, especially if it's armored is a must because it adds this layered feel to it, just like how actual armor looks irl. Without it, especially it's a metallic suit, it can make it look sort of uncanny and fake, especially without the wrinkles in the suit. Even the classic iron spider in spiderman ps4 has a lot of panel lines. The reason why the iron spider suit in the comics works so well is because of how it's drawn. It has a lot of shading variety and muscle detail, which adds this angular and sleek look to it, which can't be replicated irl. For me personally, I see panel lining as shading for live action costumes

[@pizzatime4204]

@@Optimus_Prime_2007 I kinda disagree. Yes for costumes thst are meant to be fabric, but no for costumes that are metallic or organic looking. If you made the iron spider suit fabric, it would just look like shiny fabric instead of an armor, and if you were to make the symbiote suit fabric, it would lose that other worldly and organic nature to it

[@parkermccroskey]

Same

[@pizzatime4204]

@@Optimus_Prime_2007 my point still stands though. Even if you used other materials it can't capture the feel of certain costumes that are organic or metallic without at least some cgi

[@sethurott9927]

You failed to mention how insomniac made a more faithful iron spider than Marvel Studios

[@girafael9755]

I don't really like the insomniac's Iron spider it has to many details in my opinion like the line on the face

[@mayhaps801]

@@girafael9755 I’ll take an Iron Spider suit with similar details to the Iron Man Mk. 50 over Metal Spider-Man with glowy bits everywhere

[@ccelite3782]

Anti-Ock suit will forever be 🔥

[@zeezrawesome132]

Love that suit

[@LeadMetal82]

@@girafael9755 Imo the details in Insomniac's version of classic stark iron spider is a lot more subtle compared to MCU.

[@Jay-is6jt]

I think honestly a big part of the reason they changed it is because execs thought if tom holland "didnt look like spiderman" throughout most of the movie then regular viewers would be confused or upset. Like I think people are starting to forget that superhero movies original intent was to be *adaptations* of superhero comics onto the big screen, not just its own genre for the sake of it. You can make a movie good for general audiences without taking away all the unique comic material that made comics fun in the first place

[@au6769]

🤣 what a nonsense idea. It’s nothing to do with confusion it’s clearly just a mash-up of the Sensational Spider-Man and the Iron-Spider suit

[@thebrownbanana7863]

Facts

[@ther0ach28]

@@au6769 do not under estimate how stupid people can be.

[@frdare]

Yeah that’s my line of thinking for making the MCU Iron Spider look like a more traditional design but shiny and high tech. I think it’s the iconography of seeing Spidey in one of the most important moments of the franchise’s history (the endgame battle) so they want him to look like a more easily recognizable Spider-Man as opposed to the comic accurate version of the iron spider. Like what I could’ve seen happening to incorporate the comic iron spider suit into Endgame and then Far From Home is in an extended battle, we see some of Peter’s suit get destroyed throughout the battle, then Tony swoops in and transfuses some of his nanotech suit into Peter’s, giving it more gold and it kinda of morphing into the purely red and gold Iron Spider suit. It could even be that Tony is more injured after his snap bc of the armor he transfused to Peter, making him feel even guiltier about Tony’s death. Then Peter keeps that suit for the beginning of Far From Home, and everyone calling him the next iron man makes sense, but Peter was keeping the suit as a sentimental thing bc Tony literally transfused his nanotech into that suit and has survivor’s guilt

[@user-pd9xj1bt4e]

@@au6769No this is very likely the reason why they made it look more like his normal suit. Almost every person watching the movie in theatres doesn’t read comics or even has a clue about the iron spider suit. This suit would have made him look to much like iron man for casual viewers.

[@lightningrodstudios2441]

What makes me mad is that in NWH the integrated suit had a big gold spider in the front and that just shows what we could’ve had.

[@sidecharacter3193]

Exactly Imo I’m guessing that suit was an apology for them messing up the iron spider and trying to give us a closer looking version of it

[@yucelonmaz2]

Tbh integrated suit looked ugly in some scenes

[@bionicslipper4027]

I like the webs on the MCU version and do like shape of spider but would prefer if combined both. If they made the logo fully gold, eyes gold and gotten rid of the blue I would like it

[@Vegitodraws]

Which is crazy, because the concept art for this suit has exactly what you're describing and it looks 15 times better

[@bionicslipper4027]

@@Vegitodraws I know it sucks

[@playstation.e7703]

Here, take the integrated suit, remove the black, that’s it, thats literally it

[@bionicslipper4027]

@@playstation.e7703 although it should look metal, not complete cgi but the aid of cgi, with golden eyes

[@plantainsame2049]

Why don't we just put Peter in a red onesie and have gold duct tape over the top why do people like the iron spider suit I liked it in the Marvel Spider-Man PS4 game cuz it had actual details that made it look like a suit of armor but even then in that game it looked like some sort of nanite suit

[@mcl4549]

2:29 boy do I have good news for you

[@JuhoSprite]

No news for him, everyone knows

[@tonybablony2041]

@@JuhoSpritewoosh

[@JuhoSprite]

@@tonybablony2041 buddy thats not how woosh works. also ur not on reddit

[@Nalienlikesricecakes]

@@JuhoSprite it only counts if it’s r/whoosh

[@JuhoSprite]

@@Nalienlikesricecakes I guess but its still not even a woosh moment

[@st1922]

I always thought there was a missed opportunity from the very start for Spider-Man, one that would have prevented most complaints about Tom Holland’s version of Peter. When looking around Peter’s room in Civil War, Tony should have come across various sketches, equations, and blueprint designs for the Spider-Man outfit, nanotechnology, moving lenses, advanced web shooters, and other iconic Spider-Man equipment. He could say something like “are these your drawings” and Peter would start to try and hide them and play dumb, saying “I’m just a big fan of Spider-Man”. This quick five second exchange would not only make Peter seem more like a genius, but would also remove the idea that everything Spider-Man has came from Tony Stark. Instead, Peter was indeed the one to create his technology, but just didn’t have the funds or access to technology to make them happen. Then, Tony could help Peter make his vision a reality, but in the end, the suit was always Peter’s idea. This would also make a lot more sense for a realistic Spider-Man story arc. In all seriousness, how can Peter in the comics, a poor kid from queens, create such advanced web shooters and costumes on his own? By having Stark Industries provide the funds, it would have made more sense, while keeping the fundamental idea that Peter Parker created his own suit.

[@ghoste4370]

Holy shit you fixed everything wrong wrong with mcu Peter.

[@Yuki-qs5mt]

Jesus loves you Jesus loves you

[@Bwoodlyy]

@@ghoste4370 He fucking nailed it! I’ve always liked MCU Spider-Man but this minuscule thing would’ve made a massive difference. Probably why rushing Spider-Man into Civil War wasn’t the best idea.

[@marlonkirkfernandes8098]

I have always said this too, when Tony says the whole 'top to bottom restoration' line, Peter gives him a notebook with sketches for how he'd like his suit to look, or a web shooter ver. 2 or something along those lines, maybe spider tracers and stuff as well. Tony could add his own bells and whistles, sure. But Peter is who came up with the red and blue.

[@volarex5311]

I love how Insomniac's Spider-Man opening cutscenes is literally like what you are describing. Insomniac > MCU

[@triggeredbeetle5370]

The original iron spider is my favorite spidey suit, so I can’t wait to see your thoughts on it

[@markellerodgers8830]

The suit is easily the ugliest Spiderman suit

[@triggeredbeetle5370]

@@markellerodgers8830 the new one or the old one?

[@arkwright4354]

The original Iron Spider suit is cool not because it looks like/has the colors of Iron Man, but because no matter what, Tony Stark made the suit regardless, I also hope Marvel can make a very comic accurate version of the Symbiote costume in future MCU Spidey films

[@TheMostBritishBrit]

@@markellerodgers8830the comic one definitely isn’t

[@IzzuZiq]

What's sad is that in-universe in the MCU itself, Tony Stark is the one who made the "classic design" to begin with so even in-universe, I imagined Tony couldn't be in his right mind to be able to design the comic accurate version when he could just update from the design he had for the other suit to begin with. So the design process for the comics version is "How would Tony make a Spider-Man suit" vs the MCU's "How would Tony update his own take on the classic suit to be armored"

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Izzu Ziq yeah pretty sad, always hated that, it makes sense that peter isn't a design whiz but cmon it lowkey ruins his character, that's why I hoped when he made the final NWH suit it'd be the unused civil war design or use the logo from the homemade suit (aka the todd macfarlane looking one). But what they went with was good. At least the homemade suit exists. it does make sense stark would make the spider-man suit but at least not the eyes.

[@Starsdealer]

Exactly ,Tony the one who Made a classic instead Peter is so stupid ,Peter is should be the one who design that type of design ,it ruin the character lowkey

[@Icemario87]

It was so confusing for me. I couldn't understand why he wouldn't like Tony's new suit for him if the previous suit came from Tony and the new one still looks like an armored but traditional red/blue spider suit. None of the gravity of Spider-Man rejecting Ironman landed on me.

[@levismith9572]

So, I actually ended up seeing homecoming on opening day. Approaching the end of the movie, I thought, “Hey, it looks like Tony is gonna recruit Peter to be a full-fledged Avenger! OH CRAP! That probably means we’re gonna get an Iron-Spider suit!” I was hyping myself up IMMENSELY for the reveal, chatting with my cousins who were seeing it with me, just all around excitement. Then the suit appeared. The first words out of my mouth were, “That’s not the Iron-Spider suit. I have no idea what that is, but it’s not what I thought it was.” Turns out that I was wrong, and THAT was supposed to be the suit I was so excited for. I felt a bit like the meme of that British kid trying the Popeyes chicken sandwich for the first time, “I am tremendously disappointed, and my day is ruined.”

[@akwilson1676]

You know what other meme this feels like? "Reus? Let's go that's class"

[@ebensennett3095]

I felt the same way, I went with my brother and cousins and I remember seeing the suit at the end and being like, "The f*ck is that?" I didn't even realize it was the iron spider suit until I saw a CBR article, and one of the first lines was, "Fans will immediately recognize this as the iron spider suit" I was just sitting there thinking to myself like, you sure about that?

[@user-pd9xj1bt4e]

That guy isn’t even British lol

[@opfryingpan9770]

@@user-pd9xj1bt4e nor is he a kid

[@justinjennings6254]

that’s actually crazy cause i saw it the day after it came out and as soon as i saw the suit i thought “omg it’s the iron spider suit” lmao

[@juaniferritto165]

When I first saw this suit while watching the movie on cinemas, I didn't even think about it being the iron spider. I think this whole problem could have been avoided by just making it it's own suit, with a different name or function or something

[@bluehero-96]

It was more inevitable than Thanos. The intent of the suit in the movies is still representative of Tony Stark's influence over Spider-man, but executed terribly. Changing the name wouldn't help.

[@moviehermit5631]

MCU Iron Spider is more akin to the Spider-armour Mk5 (Parker Industries suit). The Insomnaic version of the classic armour is the best version. Perfect balance of slightly bulk armour which with a streamlined aesthetic, a hint of an arc reactor the blends into the logo, great paneling that makes sense. If the MCU wanted Peter to stand out as more of an individual during Infinity War while wearing the armour, they could have added black paneling to semi-replicate the classic structure while still retaining the Iron Spider aesthetic Edit: Mk4 armour

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Mk4 you mean?

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

it's a combination of many suits in my opinion, I listed them all in a comment

[@froggo54]

I wish they used the MCU iron spider-man suit more sparingly and not like in every spider-man movie

[@criticalthought1112]

The COMIC iron spider suit will forever be on some king shit. My only complaint with that suit is that for some reason there’s only 3 waldoes… my current headcannon is that stark was cheeping out.

[@nofacedgoldfish6216]

Agreed.

[@Starsdealer]

Comic iron spider suit with 4 spider arm/waldoes would been so hard

[@galanga21890]

i'm pretty sure he gets a 4th later on

[@Mr.Allagrande]

The mcu "iron spider" design looks kinda cool, but i ain't calling it an iron spider, it looks nothing like the comics version

[@PresidentEgg16]

I think what’s annoying is that the integrated suit (or whatever that suit he has during the final battle) from NWH would’ve honestly been a better Iron Spider suit

[@ghoste4370]

I always thought that switching back into the civil war/homecoming suit would’ve been a more character driven change at the final battle of NWH considering he was accused of murder and people were treating him like a menace. In the comics Peter changes the black parts of his costume to blue so he could look LESS MENACING AND MORE FRIENDLY but the studio decided to make a entirely new costume to sell toys.

[@t.rexking441]

I used to like the MCU Iron Spider suit and dislike the Comic one because the MCU one looked more like the normal suit. But now I don't like the MCU Iron Spider suit because it is so bland and is just a more complex version of the normal suit. Whereas the comic suit looks memorable, unique, and cool despite its simplicity. I didn't even think of how using the comic suit would work better for the narrative like you said but it does.

[@HK47_115]

Narrative or not, you're not going to get the exact same simplistic design to stand out properly in the film as CGI. Carson's like that or really any costume in general for any character of all the signs can work way better in the art style of comic books or even computer graphics for games and they would in films as actual physical assets or CGI. If there's one good thing you can say about the actual film suit is that it actually looks like armor. It actually stands out well on film with all that CGI and actually looks like armor. You cannot make a skin suit out of fabric look like armor no matter how hard you try. At least not metal armor. Technically speaking if the writers want to they could make something up to where maybe Tony use some special bulletproof advanced fabric. I mean it's not like we don't have some of those in real life. And a man likes Tony Stark could definitely make something like that probably way more advanced. But the thing about the soon as it needs to be skin tight while still being metal armor. It is an iron suit made by iron Man of all people of course. No I could understand still having your gropes with the design. But my point being is the part where it's supposed to look like a metal suit. Made by the metal suit man himself. And that was not going to translate well with the design everybody wanted. Of course that works in the comic books with the art design. That's not a suit made out of metal. Or at the very least it doesn't look like it. And there's no way that's going to translate well even on the comic books. At least not without the popcorn designer. And partially what makes it look like an actual mechanic suit is not making it so skin tights where you can see the muscles. You tell me and real life what type of medicine would be able to do that? That would also be very very pointless to have a suit perfectly match your muscles when at any time they can grow from all the working out you would do in training or shrink if you stood out of the game for too long. Like you guys are not really thinking about this suit at all beyond just up it's cosmetic look. And even then you're not thinking that much about the cosmetic look at all. again, the color scheme and whatnot I can still understand not liking it. My only point is that it's supposed to look metallic. Not like a fabric suit. You're not going to get the same suit from the comic books and expect it to look right when it's supposed to be a metallic suit. Metallic suits do not reveal your muscles. Metallic suits aren't perfectly shape for your body like a skin tight outfit. And it suit like this for a Spider-Man it's supposed to be very flexible for him well again still staying a metallic nanotech suit

[@Masonhill76]

What’s funny to me is, the iron spider suit in the comics is red and gold, like Tony’s iron man suit, yet Tom’s version is called “iron boy jr”. Tom keeps his Spiderman identity with his version of the iron spider, unique from Tony, yet the one from the comic is the one everyone wants, the literal iron man 2.0 suit. I get maybe Tom’s has too much going on but I actually really like it. That is distinctively spiderman

[@Imperial_Inc]

I suppose they were trying to differentiate him from Ironman, as you said it looks more like a powered up Spider-Man suit as he is trying to stand out and be seperate from him However you are right, the ending of Homecoming would have hit much harder if it was a comic-accurate IRON Spider, with Peter turning the offer down to be a friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man Edit: I’m still kinda dissapointed that this is the suit we got dispute it debuting a while ago now Like c’mon just give us a shiny red and gold suit with no weird shades of blue in there please…

[@ΔημήτρηςΑβραάμ-φ7σ]

Well I always saw the Iron spider suit(comic ver.) as something of a metaphor in civil war, like peter first chooses iron mans side and that suit has the original color patern as iron man, red and gold, and when he goes with Captain Americas side he takes it off. It's like Peter choses what hero he wants to be and not what the others want him to be. In the MCU the iron spider suit its his official avenger suit and not his iron man team suit, and maybe Tony made it look like that because well yes he was Peter mentor and he doesn't want Peter to do the same mistakes as he did. Tony wanted Peter to be his own hero, Spiderman, and not the hero who is mentoring him, Iron man.

[@OnlyMarvelSnap]

I think it’s a cool suit imo. I think the og suit looks better and I like it more. But I don’t think this one’s bad.

[@NightWing1st]

I don't hate it but the comic one is better

[@ultamatejoker8282]

Every youtuber over exaggerates what they call bad sadly

[@TheEmperorRaidou]

@@ultamatejoker8282 Its really not a big deal for people to overreact shit like this when its not hurting anyone..

[@DemonicRemption]

I was under the impression the costume designers were incapable of replicating the Iron-Spider design from the comics. Either that or they thought making it look like Spider-Man's regular suit would make it accessible to the casual movie goer.

[@tempestflare4339]

A lot of people forget that Spider-Man has always had a gliding feature whether it be from the web wings on his outfit which are shown in the first movie which is awesome or the fact that he can shape his actual web fluid into a glider and glide along or even just make a wet parachute that last in the float for a little while so the fact that the iron spider suit doesn't actually have its thrusters is the big problem for me since they already showed that Spider-Man does utilize gliding in the MCU

[@alexnewby2004]

The most painful part of this is that the integrated suit looks like a better adaptation than the actual iron spider

[@ultrakid5306]

So true

[@ventusvanitas7544]

Not really, MCU just complete ass

[@alexnewby2004]

@@ventusvanitas7544 agree to disagree

[@ventusvanitas7544]

@@alexnewby2004 k basic normie

[@alexnewby2004]

@@ventusvanitas7544 how so?

[@braydengenter3071]

Awesome video and breakdown. I find it really interesting how one of your criticisms is that it looks less Ironman inspired and I saw another creator saying they liked that the redesign makes it more of a Spider-Man suit. I suppose a lot of it depends on what perspective you’re looking at the suit from

[@BullyGarfield.]

We need a full suit tutorial please!

[@PizzaTimeGuy]

I agree. The comic iron spider looks times better then the mcu version. But in there perspective, i kinda get why they didn't really picked the more accurate designs. Because Tony made also the homecoming suit, and it makes sense that he would incorporates most of the elements of his own red and blue design on the iron spider suit. But still, it would have bin visually more of an impact if it was more like the comic suit, Because then you could see the huge contrast of being a member of the Avengers. Or being that friendly neighborhood Spider-Man, who doesn't need all the tech in the world.

[@efejaymabs4200]

cap the comic version doesn't even look like something spider-man would wear it looks like spider-man trying to ripoff iron man

[@springblastyanimations1104]

​@@efejaymabs4200 ok

[@efejaymabs4200]

@@springblastyanimations1104 it's not even ironbou jr it's discount iron man

[@Fortnitesexgamer69420]

​@@efejaymabs4200That is kinda point. Especially if it was incorporated into the mcu.

[@ViiiRALshortz]

he wore it a lot in the movies, would be weird if it didn't have aspects of the normal spider-man desgin

[@nofacedgoldfish6216]

Or maybe, just don't wear it a lot.

[@ViiiRALshortz]

@@nofacedgoldfish6216 yeah, they probably should've blew it up in far from home

[@nofacedgoldfish6216]

@@ViiiRALshortz Agreed.

[@omoefeasiemo3601]

At least it has 4 spider legs instead of just 3

[@amazingpsm]

only thing it does better

[@omoefeasiemo3601]

@Probably Spider-Man I actually like the MCU iron spider as it's own design sure when compared to the original it stinks but juged on it's own merits it's a pretty cool design I just wish it wasn't so overused

[@Brei.]

They did the same with the stealth suit…. The comic’s design is SICK!!

[@dip.918]

I like both, but considering he wears the Iron Spider or a variant of it for a lot of his MCU screentime it makes sense to me personally that they would want it to more closely resemble the regular Spider-Man costume whilst still retaining the armoured look

[@xaenr480]

What’s upsetting is that now we can pretty much never see a comic accurate iron spider suit in the mcu

[@panicatthejojo0315]

No Way Home had a better Iron Spider looking suit with the last suit than the actual Iron Spider suit

[@silverloveguns]

its the same suit but different CGI model the one from Far From Home and No Way Home is bulkier and the blue is more saturated and no it definitely looks better in Infinity War

[@panicatthejojo0315]

@@silverloveguns I'm talking about the one at the end, his black and red suit with the gold spider

[@jrell3025]

When homecoming dropped, I had no idea it was supposed to be the Iron Spider until like infinity war or something.

[@NamelessPassenger]

Wolverine make it right in Deadpool vs Wopverine. Now, to tell the truth, sometime redesign will fit the character. Like the redesign Ironman mk1 vs 2 vs 3 in Movies is mind blowing that comic later on adapt and change from metal skin latex suit into more mechanical design. But not this time with Spiderman, if they didn’t tell me it’s iron spider, i couldn’t believe it. It’s just look like it normal suit with gold line.

[@seanrutherford728]

3:43 *FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE CARES ENOUGH TO BRING IT UP, I WAS SO TIRED OF BEING THE ONLY ONE*

[@Me-wx1mt]

I remember seeing the suit at the end of spider-man hoemcoming, and it looks different. It looks more like cloth with metal parts, not full on cgi metal like it does in other movies. I also heard the gold and black suit from no way home was originally a concept for the iron spider suit so that could make sense. also, every fan edit where the iron spider is recolored to look like the comic always slaps harder than the movie lol. sad when fortnite has better suits than the movies

[@calamari6D616E]

I think they did this design since he was paired with Tony in infinity war who was using mark 50 which has a lot of red on its design and could have been hard to identify from each other in moving action scenes when if two of them had the same color scheme

[@basilprasad2837]

The one thing the MCU Iron-Spider does better than the comic version is have four spider legs instead of three.

[@CubeCooper64]

Hyped for this video since I've been watching Kai since the Raimi suit video. Now we're here

[@TheMightyKite]

The fact Fortnite just gave fans an accurate Iron Spider suit speaks volumes

[@subhasreekumar]

Imagine spider man creating comic accurate iron spider suit as seen in the ps4 in memory of stark and then after realising it inhibits his acrobatics makes it nano teach...... Like mark 85.....which doesnt look nanotech after fully assembling

[@ArcTrooper269]

_TASKMASTER SUIT LOOKS SO GREAT IN THE COMICS,& IF YOU WANT TO TRASLADE IT TO LIVE ACTION IT WAS A PIECE OF CAKE, YOU HAVE A BIG VARIETY OF DIFFERENT OUTFITS IN CASE YOU'RE SEARCHING AN SPECIFIC TAKE_ -THE ALL NEW SUIT (A SNEAKY) -SPIDER-MEN SUIT(KNIGHTISH) -MOON KNIGHT 2006 (CREEPY) -THE 2010 (TACTIC) -THE CLASSIC (ELEGANT) *BUT INSTEAD WE GOT A TAKMISTRESS WEARING AN OVERDESIGN PADDED MESS WITH A MOTORBIKE HELMET WITH HUNDREDS OF LINES, INTEAD OF A SKULL MASK*

[@CubeCooper64]

I don't mind the suit being CG, but for me the problem is the colors and emblem.

[@joelcartagena953]

That's from the Ultimate comics. The original 1 not that new reboot. I would've loved to see more of the Ultimate Iron Spider. Although it's been shown 1 time only, I still love it.

[@diegoa0812]

They only have to paint the Spider with and change the blue parts with red. Even they can do it between Homecomming and Infinity War with the excuse that Tony was working on it after he rejected it.

[@DatMentalGamer]

i actually really like Classic Suits. it worked brilliant for Deadpool, really hope to see more of them in the future

[@TheDrexLord]

I kinda like the look. Also the reason they didn't go with the comic look is because spidey would be wearing it in 2 of the biggest films of all time and it was his first avenger film so they wanted him to look kinda like classic spidey. If it was just for one film that was smaller than the biggest event films ever made they would have done the classic suit

[@spider-man500]

Then they should of never made him wear the Iron Spider suit.

[@ceciladams4882]

@@spider-man500 he should have been wearing his homecoming suit or a more classic suit in NWH. The integrated suit is straight ass

[@gabetheanimator_]

@@ceciladams4882Honestly any other MCU suit besides the Civil War/Homecoming suit or the Far From Home suit sucks (meaning Stealth, Iron Spider, and Integrated all suck, but that’s just my opinion)

[@Neglectedpou.]

The og iron spider suit being in far from home for 2 seconds is a crime

[@jbktpl1245]

I didn't like this suit initially but it dud grow on me as time went on. But I definitely understand your grievances with it.

[@krystiangacha9469]

Insomniac Iron spider: Hey i'm looking better than you! MCU Iron Spider: What?

[@TheRevenantEdits]

As the sayings go... "Simplicity is key", and "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". ESPECIALLY with the Iron Spider suit design

[@SunAnimations1234]

I like the iron spider design to be honest. I just think it's underrated.

[@square5775]

the worst part is how good the proposed comic accurate one was

[@SpiderBrine42]

2:34 not anymore😌

[@lucas_wintle]

My least favourite part of the mcu iron spider is the blue. It’s such a weird colour that people still argue whether it was black or blue or grey when most of the time it just looks like an impossibly reflective mud colour

[@spongebobguy2cook]

I understand your commitment but the reason they went with this was most likely the marketing team didn't trust that people would understand why his suit is like this and not the classic like look

[@thatgoshdarnrat]

KAI YOU JAT HIT 100k CONGRATS 🥳 I’ve been watch you since 7k and I was waiting all day for this whip

[@AkitoVR]

I honestly think this would have been a good Parker Industries suit instead of Iron spider. Just me though.

[@nofacedgoldfish6216]

Yeah, because Parker Industries' suit is a metallic version of his classic suit made of nanobots, which the Iron Spider armor in the MCU is closer resembling.

[@stutudi4881]

I know I am late but regarding ruining Iconic outfits: My Mother didn't recognise Wolverine when I played Midnight Suns because she only ever knew him in a Tank Top

[@maltheicebear1847]

I absolutely love the MCU Iron spider suit but I think thats just me (Then again, I'm a huge Tokusatsu fan and I rlly like the concept of a suit getting more complicated the more powerful or advanced a certain character gets soooo)

[@tempestflare4339]

By the way the LEDs on the belt are actually a follow-up to the spider signal from the end of homecoming they're probably there to project it just like Spider-Man would sometimes do in the comics (also like Pizza Time said the LEDs are more to go in line with iron Man's current outfit)

[@Juanma-fb4sm]

Something I noticed while comparing suits in spider-man ps4 is that the mcu iron spider looks more like the mk III spider armor, from the colors, to the segmenting, details and "shape" of the armor. Idk it's just something I thought one day

[@sunsetvibe1063]

Personally. I think they should’ve done an adaptation of the 1610 version if the Iron Spider. It’s not as good as the classic. But I think it would’ve fit the MCU line detail way more since it already has line work. Plus we get to keep the those holographic spider lenses. Just make them yellow instead of blue.

[@SpiderBrine42]

1:30 do yall like my recolored redesign?

[@gangofheroes]

One of the main reasons for the redesigns is merch because the original cartoons already exist as merch so to make money off the new look.

[@pattik_]

they could just take out the blue and it would be a decent suit

[@nofacedgoldfish6216]

Take out the blue and change the black eye trim to gold.

[@ProjectKHI]

I think why the suit is like that is to represent Peter being his own superhero not some next Iron Man

[@mannyphantommm]

I love the MCU Iron Spider suit🏃🏽‍♂️but I can understand why people don’t like it 😂

[@IveGotTenCents]

I like that the MCU Iron Spider suit looks closer to Spiderman while having notable Tony Stark influences, unlike the comics suit which is purely an Iron Man suit built to resemble Spiderman. That being said both are great designs

[@blakeellis9171]

I only realized a year later that it was even supposed to be an adaptation of the Iron Spider suit

[@NightWing1st]

The comic iron spider just looks so cool and better

[@WebSlinger62]

By taking away the webbing pattern, replacing the blue spider emblem with solid gold, making the pants red, taking away the blue LEDs, and making the eye lens gold the suit design would've stayed faithful to the comic book counterpart but also have some small changes. It could have been a great suit.

[@KidZ3ta]

Honestly the suit has grown on me

[@icantfeelmylegs9329]

same but i definitely think their are way better iron spider suits that exist

[@KidZ3ta]

@@icantfeelmylegs9329 yeah definitely

[@andrewgrigorian1935]

I remember when I first saw the Iron Spider suit in Homecoming and not even realizing that it was the Iron Spider suit

[@isaacrogers4174]

Oh boy, can’t wait to see him bitch about one of my favorite MCU suits…

[@amazingpsm]

That’s right 😎

[@isaacrogers4174]

@@amazingpsm Wait, are you gonna do one of your redesigns in this video?

[@amazingpsm]

@@isaacrogers4174 nah, not this time. I did put the comic iron spider over the MCU iron spider in one of the shots though for a point I’m trying to make

[@isaacrogers4174]

@@amazingpsm Ah ok, for me the only thing I would change about this suit is make the front and back spider logo completely gold.

[@Gamer-Bot8820]

The only thing the MCU suit did right was giving it an extra leg, that's it.

[@marvelstarwarsfan8410]

I disagree with you I hon stay prefer this design over the comic version.

[@galaxyhuskyyy]

When I first saw the suit in infinity war I had no idea that it was supposed to be iron spider until I saw the iron arms

[@ArachnidYouth]

What makes this suit a worse slaps to the face is the fact that in FFH you can clearly see that they had the classic rendition of the iron spider. Maybe it's for the best they didn't use it tbh

[@LeviThePizzaLover]

When i was a kid, i was hyped for iron spider cuz i saw how the iron spider was in one of the spiderman shows. But when i saw the iron spider in the mcu, i thought "DAMN, IT'S LAME".

[@saidamerzaby-ob2mh]

Here after fortnite

[@ArpitKarukapallil]

Well atleast Wolverine finally got his costume 😂

[@shadowsnake5133]

The new suits not bad, wtf? Brother, you're blowing it out of proportion... Which i mean, i agree it's worse, i love the gold and red only, but that's literally it's only flaw. The rest is really good... Welp, minus the story points you mentioned, that's just good visual story telling.

[@skipturnip3137]

I like the suit and what it stood for, having elements that made it look like iron man to highlight how he saw himself in Peter and to make him “the new iron man”. That said, it would have been WAY better if in Far From Home he realized he can become he own hero and redesigned the suit to be comic accurate.

[@TheSonicSpider]

Please don’t be mad at me but I love the MCU Iron spider 😅

[@marvelmaniacs1]

same same

[@Quarkesh]

ME TOO!

[@Borger3941]

Thank you! Thank you so much for bringing this up, especially for wolverine, my favorite marvel character. You have no idea how long I'lve been waiting for someone to have the same point of view as me and finally adressing this issue. Seriously, I hate most of the fox movies for many reasons and that is one of them, the fact that there are no comic accurate costumes. But yeah, I agree with your point on the Iron Spider suit.

[@EL_INDORAPTOR]

I personally prefer the MCU design over the comic design It kinda feels more like Iron Man, with the shoulder pads that make it look armored, the miniature arc reactors throught the armor mimicking Iron Man’s, the glowing eye lenses But I agree that the design needed more gold

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

I thought the exact same

[@maddenboseroy4074]

I think you should review the Insomniac redesigns at some point.

[@jadjaber9415]

stop premiering these videos bruh 😭

[@Vinces_Animations]

For some reason my sister said that she didn’t like either of them…. because they were too shiny

[@NinjaAimless]

Dude I’m so glad someone besides me hates the MCU Iron Spider………the OG suit is one of the absolute Best! Superior Symbiote Iron Spider I’m that order for me. Spider-Man had some of the best superhero outfits 🥳

[@SpiderBrine42]

I never loved the mcu iron spider suit but I don’t exactly HATE it though

[@foxy12220]

Fortnite did it better

[@BalticOPTS]

Bro loved deadpool and wolverine since wolverine finally had a comic accurate suit

[@totallynotahuman9933]

0:30 tell me what in gods green earth is a shiny dull color??? Those 2 things are the opposite of each other you can’t have something be shiny AND dull. Edit: I KNOW GOOD AND WELL YOU DID NOT THINK A SKINTIGHT ROBOTIC SUIT WITH ARMS WOULD ALL BE DONE PRACTICALLY AND STILL BE a believable iron suit

[@sergiolangston5540]

I actually prefer the mcu iron spider costume because it's more true to spiderman, as opposed to the comics iron spider costume that hurts my eyes and makes spider man look like iron man's sidekick

[@goldenproxie7615]

bro hating to be hating, the irons-diet suit that the MCU showed looks clean as hell just because its not a original design does not mean the suit is bad, like jeez give it credit

[@YourAverageYouTuber64]

Yeah, I agree.

[@HiImTumn]

I don’t care

[@Mike0405H]

5:29 I actually disagree, I think caps suit is better in the MCU than it is in the comics The scales just look… odd and over designed, there’s too much going on… in the MCU however it looks like something that could have actually been manufactured during world war 2, and improved over the next 80 years, it also just looks a lot more comfortable… and a bit warmer Not to mention the white ish lines at the shoulders make sense… he’s Captain AMERICA… red and white stripes are kind of important, and they help make his frame look wider, they make the shoulders pop, helping show him as the symbol he was meant to be for the people of this country, and the helmet instead of a cloth mask just looks way better… especially with the brown strap, it’s more reminiscent of the helmets from world war 2… very different but… it’s reminiscent I think it’s one of the best suit adaptations, apart from iron man’s early suits, the hulk (before the dark times) and spider man’s homemade suit at the end of no way home (and yes he absolutely could have made it himself, sewing isn’t that hard)

[@PteranoLiv]

Nah MCU Iron Spider is gorgeous

[@bradleyforney4520]

Not really

[@PteranoLiv]

@@bradleyforney4520 yes it is

[@bradleyforney4520]

@@PteranoLiv no is not 😂

[@PteranoLiv]

@@bradleyforney4520 yes it is

[@bradleyforney4520]

@@PteranoLiv no is not 😂

[@tobiaskadachi]

Ok, now imagine a Spider-Man 2099 movie.