AMAZON FORGE REVIEW! Simond Store Duel Burner. Is it any good??

[@OEF_Vet_0331]

I’m really loving all of this getting back to working with our hands more and re learning lost knowledge. The past few years I heavily dove into woodworking and now blacksmithing and I love it. I love making things and watching other people just like me. Great video! I really feel like there will be a shift in our society towards making more of our own things and growing our own foods in our own communities. Everyone can contribute with their own expertise! Let’s get to learning!

[@keithcampbell7820]

Thank you young man. Semi-retired looking to start blacksmithing as a hobby. You did an excellent job with your video, keeping it short and sweet. Looking forward to seeing more. 👍

[@Asthmos]

dude, i love it. im about to start a shop with a friend and your video fortified my hopes that an amazon forge will be something i can work with. i plan on bricking around mine with fire brick and using the same material for a makeshift door

[@saometalworks]

It's DEFINITELY worth the money!

[@keithwillenson8314]

The top of your anvil should be at knuckle height when you are standing. That way a natural hammer swing will have the hammer face parallel to the anvil.. I see you bending over and that is not good hammering posture for your arms or back. Sorry I did not notice how old this video was.

[@ArborlyPainter0]

Hey this was pretty helpful I’m also just starting out and was looking at a forge to start with so thanks for the great review 🤙🏻

[@saofilms6260]

I'm glad it has helped you! It's a wonderful forge to start with in my opinion 👍

[@FixerMerlin]

Thanks for the video, My forge is very similar I made it from an old propane tank but need to add a way to cap off some of the air coming in as I don’t think the mixture is correct and as a result it doesn’t run hot enough

[@the_fafologist]

Cant wait to see how you develop. I started out full throttle making my own forge from scraps and spent over $1000 learning how to do it all wrong lmao. Made a ribbon burner forge that worked amazing but sold it like an idiot. Now I plan to get an Amazon special and make another forge press since I sold that as well lol. Take it slow and learn the basics. Looking forward to more and see your progress.

[@saometalworks]

I've been trying to learn as much as I can! Definitely a slow, time consuming process. I've had plenty of wasted materials so far.. But I'm getting better! I love hearing opinions, and getting comments about the things I do. I've always enjoyed making videos, and I thought it would be fun to share this experience.

[@arcanewyrm6295]

@@saometalworks Keep your waste, and organize it by types of metal. You can always use it later for Damascus or something.

[@AllThingsGamers]

I have one of these, but it doesn’t put out any force and the fire goes back up the pipes. I even got a new top burner and it still doesn’t have any force, user error?

[@dlane7217]

How far down did you install the burners?

[@statix108]

Good stuff love to see more people making things and learning. One thing I will say is don't use a glove on your hammer hand. You will strain your arm way more than you need to trying to grip.

[@saometalworks]

I'll give that a try! It's been cold enough here lately, I've worn gloves for everything. No heat in the shop.

[@arcanewyrm6295]

@@saometalworks Forge = heat, man. 😁

[@christophercrahen9302]

Hey man, Thanks for the great review. You've got skill. Sadly, I've gotta say I don't think you put refractory cement over Kao wool. I use refractory cement inside my mini firebrick forges I build straight onto the brick, but puffy insulation probably shouldn't be compacted. I was actually given a very similar forge and wondered why the heck it came with the refractory powder. You can buy some scrap Kao wool at some places ( or a roll on Amazon) and reline over the refractory cement and your single burner should get WAY hotter...as in possibly forge weld hot, but make sure to buy some of that crazy expensive rigidizer to spray over the wool for your health and safety. Just my 2 cents. Looks like you're rockin the leaf smithing. Best of luck to you.

[@saometalworks]

It only makes a thin layer solid, and leaves the rest puffy. It helps hold heat, and prevent tiny wool particles from flying around all the time. I watched plenty of reviews on it before I messed with it! I wasn't going to at first, but I quickly realized how much dust that stuff putts off..

[@christophercrahen9302]

@@saometalworks yeah, that fiberglass dust freaks me out

[@charliesybert2683]

Very helpful

[@jessebradley1339]

Have you got the forge welding temperature?

[@saometalworks]

Yes! For welding temp, it takes a little longer to heat up. But it is definitely capable!

[@chrisspeller8213]

Whats used to seal the burner holes in the top

[@matthewdell4504]

There is a packet of the fluffy kaowool material which is intended to be cut and placed as a heat plug in the holes.

[@Larroparko]

Great job! I'm interested in getting into forging as well and this information helps, thanks. Q- Between the tank and the forge, will I need some kind of regulator? Thanks again!

[@saometalworks]

Yes, a propane regulator similar to those you find on a torch set up is all you need. Very simple!

[@coltandrews4578]

Have you modified the forge any and how’s it holding up?

[@saometalworks]

I've added more fire brick to help hold heat, but that's all I've done to it. I probably haven't used it more than 25-30 hours total burn time, but it's held up great so far.

[@johnnias4442]

Question, did your gas inlet thread into your propane tank ok? Mine seems to be just a hair too small

[@saometalworks]

The first tank I threaded it into, it did feel a hair loose. The other tanks I've used, seem to fit just fine.

[@dracopinkish4166]

I have a question, I've seen people saying you have to line the inside and can't just use it out the box. Is that true because it's making me hesitant on purchasing one because I've never done anything like this and my knowledge is pretty much none existent

[@saometalworks]

The KAO wool is usable without coating it in anything. HOWEVER, it is also terrible for your health, and I wouldn't recommend anyone use it without coating it. It's a very easy process, and is ready to go 24hr after you apply it. Don't be afraid to try it out! It's much easier than you think! 👍

[@dracopinkish4166]

@@saometalworks thank you I appreciate the advice and I will definitely try this when I have some extra cash

[@Simondstore-connect]

good

[@csteimel]

What pressure are you running at on your gage when you run it hot?

[@saometalworks]

The regulator I have came with green, yellow, and red. I've never actually looked at the numbers, but right before you hit the yellow, it says "weld" temp, and that's as hot as I e ever needed so far. I'll check again, and see if I can get a pressure number!

[@saometalworks]

I normally run around 5Bar. That's about as high as I've needed so far!

[@randygray8273]

Have you tried forge welding with that yet?

[@saometalworks]

I actually have not. I've never turned my regulator over 30-40%, so I know it's definitely possible. Maybe I'll do a video on that soon!

[@randygray8273]

@SAOmetalworks I just got their 3 burner forge the other day. Any idea why the regular has a red line after 20 psi? I know acetylene becomes unstable and will blow up at 30psi but propane doesn't

[@saometalworks]

@@randygray8273 My guess would be, the regulator can't handle any more than that. I'm also not sure that you would ever need more that 20 psi, would you?!? Lol

[@ArcanePath360]

That steel in your forge is maybe not a great idea unless you turn the forge on and off a lot and want it to retain heat with sporadic use. Adding it robs the workpiece of heat, as it absorbs a lot of the heat in the forge. It will take longer to get up to temperature, but will stay hot for longer in there if you keep turning off and on. It may also be detrimental if you plan on doing forge welding, as it won't get hot enough in the centre

[@rtcoleman3626]

Yeah I'm new to it too I'm looking to buy my first Forge I was looking at the one just like that one except it has the double doors I'm ordering it this Friday I'm going up to Amish Country in Berlin Ohio and get me a blacksmith anvil

[@jdnotariano]

I am between this one and the Hell’s forge. How is this one holding up?

[@saometalworks]

I haven't used it much over the summer, but I've had no issues with it so far. I really only use one burner at a time, due to all the small things I've been making, but I love that I can fire up both whenever I need to 👍

[@jdnotariano]

@@saometalworks I just ordered the 1 burner model with the brick doors on the back for $140. It will do what I need to start out.

[@JJhancock]

What did you light it eith

[@sarahsalvano8948]

He used a torch to light it

[@einarlotric]

Alot of people use the refractory but you really dont need to. It works perfectly fine without it.

[@saometalworks]

In the very little research I've done, I've heard it prolongs it's use time. So far, it's as good as it was on day one.

[@ianmoore2850]

I feel like the hardest part of this is waiting for the refractory to sit

[@Manimal805]

😎👍

[@jmbstudio6873]

You should really get a 12" piece of pipe and extend the gas line from the burner with it. Then hook your hose to the extension, if not the heat will rise and soften the rubber tube and it WILL come loose. Ive seen it several times and it is dangerous as F. Kaowool is highly toxic and should be handled with a respirator and NOT a dust mask. Also the steel in your forge needs to go as it will absorb the heat and not reflect it like the refractory does. The steel is ruining the effectiveness of the forge by absorbing and not reflecting. Also forced induction burners are far more effective as they do not rely on atmospheric pressure to operate correctly and they will use way, way, way less fuel. Forge On!!!

[@dennisvanpaeschen1532]

You’re burners need to go lower. They should rest on the bar thats between the two shafts.