Amazon Prime Released EA Propaganda... And I'm in It!

I signed a press releasing allowing 5 of my videos to be used in an unnamed documentary covering Madden. It turned out to be (in my opinion) corporate slop and pro-EA propaganda, using John Madden as a well timed trojan horse to push Madden NFL 25 sales, as well as help EA negotiate with the NFL on a license extension. Ironically, my voice is featured in it. Here's my opinion on it all.

[@SOFTDRINKTV]

Quick note: I originally included clips from the "It's In The Game" documentary trailer to illustrate my points. However, every clip was hit with copyright claims despite being clear fair use for criticism. Rather fitting that a video about corporate control of narratives would face exactly that - corporate control. Instead, I'll show what Amazon wouldn't: critical footage of Madden from my own documentary.

[@shawklan27]

Copyright ruins everything. What else is new? Definitely knew the documentary would be favourable bullshit since EA is directly involved with it.

[@murzyn_official]

Can we get timestamps of parts with you included in it? Interested to see how exactly did they show your clips but I wont bother watching the entirety of this crap

[@jaykobanstaett1183]

Angry Joe can get a little carried away sometimes.

[@jonpapi_2247]

​@@jaykobanstaett1183I mean he's called angry Joe for a reason 😂.

[@jaykobanstaett1183]

@@jonpapi_2247 I know that.

[@ikoppel]

Never release without payment or a script

[@StateoftheFranchiseGaming]

true but then they'd move on to some other voice who might not be nearly as constructively critical

[@JohnOMalley-c6s]

They barely even used his voice anyway

[@EverlastingMemes-t9c]

@@JohnOMalley-c6sThey still used it.

[@russellpuff1996]

Yeah I would want to know more about what their plan is before giving permission. If they couldn’t elaborate, they wouldn’t have permission from me, and with something like this, I wouldn’t even want payment because then I’m selling out and not doing my journalistic duty.

[@PowderHeight]

Correct, idk what soft drink was thinking

[@marcj.tillery8290]

I got a voice on radio and i'll use it. I'll tell people to boycott that documentary on a daily basis.

[@keyyyzus]

✊🏽

[@Joeyboots80]

You're doing the lord's work sir, I salute you.

[@GOCAPSDMV]

@@Joeyboots80 by the Lord’s work you mean complaining about a video game?? I want EA done with the NFL video game market as soon as possible, but saying it’s the Lord’s work is a bit of a reach don’t you think??? Yes f ea, but that’s stretch 😂.

[@mystic_cloudzzz7202]

Bash ea too

[@keyyyzus]

@@GOCAPSDMV anything that involves practices that aren’t honest is the devils work so…

[@ST0NE_206]

Amazon really hit SDTV with the ultimate uno reverse card “oh you think it’s not in the game? On the contrary! It IS in the game!!” 🗣️🔥

[@MinusLife]

One of NFL's biggest partners twisting your words and the words of other content creators. I already gave up on Madden and EA, but this will permanently keep me away. 👍

[@GOCAPSDMV]

Yep super dirty, a reminder to always ask questions and to not assume… especially when it comes to million/billion$ company that wouldn’t care about one’s opinion but their own😂.

[@contentm3893]

@@GOCAPSDMV We need a big game company that can make a USFL 2K style game that will show everyone how bad Madden is and what could be. Everything they do is to give the illusion that you need to buy the next Madden each year and hide the fact that in 2024 football games should one near perfect.

[@KTC__21]

We really got EA propaganda 😭🙏

[@therichest96]

And before GTA 6

[@blaizedias-mw7we]

Before gta 6

[@DirtbagLexi]

Even Noam Chomsky wouldn't have predicted manufactured consent for Madden lol

[@Ryan-kt7xn]

Kim Jung Electronic Arts

[@kloutfitness5548]

@@DirtbagLexia Noam fan in a madden comment section. Thought I would never see the day 😢

[@WW-jt2sq]

I didn't even watch that garbage, I thought of you instantly when I saw it advertised. Your deep knowledge of the Madden Franchise is the true retrospective the community needs.

[@Whoyouwishyouwere]

Madden probably has a 40% 8 - 12 year old customer base. And there's always newly turned 8 year olds every year that want a Madden title.

[@Dietghostscp2107]

Nah most of the base is grown ass adults.

[@keyyyzus]

ITS UP TO THE PARENTS😂

[@RenitentHat5269]

@@Dietghostscp2107exactly aint no 8 year old got the money to compete with the whales on mommy’s credit card

[@Whoyouwishyouwere]

@@Dietghostscp2107 I'm gonna need a study for that

[@GOCAPSDMV]

@@keyyyzus yeah, and what parent is going to tell their kid that he can’t get his favorite sport video game for Christmas or for his birthday?? Sure Madden is a really really bad game, but kids don’t give a rats *ss… it’s a video game

[@codycordeiro9772]

I totally understand you signing off. You were optimistic at getting your content out there and really exposing EA especially with the videos they selected. At the same time, if it was on Amazon the chances of them actually being unbiased when you have TNF there and it being part of the NFL shield, was highly unlikely. It’s straight propaganda and to me this locks in EAs partnership with the NFL. We are gonna get the same product. Hopefully people have become smart enough to not believe the nonsense. Can we get one final push this year to ban or expose EA? That would be great. Lead the charge Softdrink.

[@TheLuckyShepherd]

I just have to be honest, this dude is outright dumb if he thought Amazon, who's now hosting NFL (partners with EA), was about to spend some sort of budget on the "fall of Madden." The game is selling as well as ever but they're going to do some documentary because some gamers complain about a lack of major changes? Lol I mean how dumb can you be? 😂

[@BichaelMallack]

@@TheLuckyShepherd + given consent to everything without explicit written down guidelines like for example only accepted if used in the right context or only as a continuation of the narrative the original video contained. In the world of capitalism of course the Company/Corporation will try to do everything to paint a "positive picture" of their partners.. to obviously ultimately increase the number of customers.

[@SaviorGabriel]

The fact that they used you like that tells me they acknowledge you as a threat. You're doing the right thing. I don't really have a horse in this race as I don't play very much in the way of sports games, but I so badly want you to succeed in your mission. Keep up the good work!

[@walkermusicandother3374]

No seriously.. that should be even more motivation to keep going..

[@bnso3692]

With all it's flaws, this I what I love YT for. People want this to have a platform, so it does. No meddling producers, no stakeholder pressure, just fact based reporting.

[@tommymaroon4189]

EA is the Scientology of video games. Change my mind

[@Americalovesme2008]

Don't let Nicholas Cage read this lmao.

[@tommymaroon4189]

@ or Tom Cruise

[@r3y354]

I don’t think Cage is a scientologist. At least, he’s not confirmed to be one like Tom Cruise is.

[@ILikeHotDoggies]

@@Americalovesme2008whos that

[@EthanKosobud]

The documentary is a total lie.

[@SimFootballFanatic]

It's not enough to simply stop buying Madden. Notice they talk about the number of users at the shareholders meeting. We *may* need to stop buying and playing any Madden where playtime is tracked. Stop buying, stop playing, and you'll get their attention.

[@joshuaallegretti9576]

Agreed, that’s why I refuse to even download it on GamePass and I won’t be playing the new college game. EA gets zero dollars and eyes from me

[@keyyyzus]

@@joshuaallegretti9576ncaa is actually worth playing though.. madden is the problem. I’m more worried about the nfl sim license than the ncaa one

[@GOCAPSDMV]

Tell that to the kids who played video games for their purpose… to have fun. Yes, we don’t have fun because we realize how bad of a game it is but kids do have fun believe it or not. Yes it’s a bad game, no people won’t stop buying nor playing it. The demographic isn’t just adults who b*tch about video games (me included)

[@keyyyzus]

@@GOCAPSDMV well the kids ain’t the ones paying $75 for garbage

[@matthewcarroll2533]

@@GOCAPSDMV You're not wrong but also wrong. If parents don't buy these young idiotic kids Madden then the problem gets solved on its own. Problem is the same as EVERY problem in America - PARENTING. Always boils down to this. *edit* Parents NEED to limit entertainment consumption across the board - not just video games. Kids being glued to screens worldwide is a massive problem and again, it falls to the parents - or lack of parenting.

[@TeamStudNation1280]

We got EA Sports propaganda before GTA VI

[@dmolenik]

The newest Madden is so good though. I love watching my linebackers and corners blow their assignment in man coverage for no reason. Or my wide receivers run routes mindlessly and ignore the defensive backfield depth (GO IN FRONT OF THEM!). It’s SO COOL having create a team back and NOT be able to edit the uniforms how I really want (and were available 15/20 years ago) and be super buggy. IT’S SO FREAKING GOOD Y’ALL.

[@jonpapi_2247]

Aye but don't worry it'll get patched in the next update and will be broken again on the release date of Madden 26 😂.

[@dmolenik]

@ 🤣🤣🤣

[@Telluswhyyoureclosed]

Same exact problems in cfb 25 too. I really don’t understand how there is not a GOOD football game that has realistic gameplay.

[@AllenChavis-z5z]

Cfb 25 is beautiful stop that shit . I woll die on this hill its the best game released in years. Its a video game stop thjnking its gonna be some realistic simulation i understand madden its ass but cfb 25 is great​@Telluswhyyoureclosed

[@Telluswhyyoureclosed]

@@AllenChavis-z5z it’s better than madden, but there’s too many things wrong with it for it to be considered a good game. Glad you like to suck off EA though

[@joshuaallegretti9576]

I know it’s just a game at the end of the day, but I really appreciate the work you’re doing to bring these issues to light. I usually can’t be bothered to leave a comment on YT videos but I just wanted to say thank you for all you do. You speak for all of us who remember how good madden was and how we simply want those game experiences again with today’s tech. Thank you again

[@rayodfilms]

The doc didnt even mention any madden past madden 06, i was so heated

[@SwampFox178]

Because they know the 360 version of it was God awful and it was downhill from there 😊

[@cookiemonster64]

You will live lol

[@EricDieterich]

I bought the MVP bundle when I bought CFB 25, just to have Madden for when I moved my RTG player to Madden. I decided when Madden came out to play it and give it a run. I played it for about 5 mins (about 1 offensive drive into starting a new franchise mode to be honest) and shut it off, removed it from my console, and went right back to CFB. Its depressing to see where Madden has come that it is completely unplayable for a casual who does ZERO MUT at all. Very frustrating. CFB is great though and a great fix for a football game, but would love another company to come make a fun NFL game.

[@BigBoiUltra3741]

Well, maybe you should try NCAA 06 or 14. In my opinion, those games are way better than 25. Better AI, better gameplay, better everything.

[@JohnThree-f8e]

CFB 25 isn't an exception it's going to go down the drain with Madden as well. A lot of ppl stopped playing it when 2k came out but seeing how 2k25 is shitty as well ppl went to Bo6 but it's trash as well, so I think we're screwed for sports gaming because TBH nerds never cared about sports to begin with.

[@EricDieterich]

@@BigBoiUltra3741 my comment wasnt about hating CFB 25. I like CFB a ton and play it way more than even if Madden was good. The "fix" comment towards the end was actually a great thing cause I would force myself to play Madden to get a football fix. I bought steam deck for NCAA 14 and to play revamped and its one of my fav games, and having something great on console to play is amazing

[@EricDieterich]

@@JohnThree-f8e it was a great first edition of it. Lets see where it goes, but I don't think it'll go downhill like Madden. As SDTV has said, Madden code needs to be absolutely stripped and re-worked, which is a tough thing. I think thats where CFB will succeed, heading into further editions of the game.

[@deantephillips2689]

CFB plays like madden with a lower speed threshold

[@Whatever-is1rz]

I am genuinely surprised you hadn't reached the point of cynicism to be immediately suspicious of the documentary both you and angry joe. Not saying its a bad thing, I hate having the mindset I have but I would have presumed even taking videos of those titles it would be a fluff piece / paid advertising just because I think so little of the world and gaming media today (aside from those passionate grassroots folks such as yourself and Joe ofc)

[@VurtAddicted]

💯 they were naive. And I also hate being cynic and being right. But we are always damn right. I am 49, I bought my last Madden in 2018, I will most probably never play a football game anymore in my life. AI is my very last hope, maybe EA can use it to clean the code. I wouldn't give it more than 5% chance, though.

[@SemperReloaded]

Remember when ESPN produced Playmakers, which was an amazing fictional show that used real things that happened in the NFL to make a highly rated and incredible work of fiction, and the NFL threatened to pull their license from ESPN if they didn't cancel their highest rated show? There was no universe where Amazon was going to be honest about the NFL's flagship game.

[@Clown_Shingles]

The documentary was too scared to be negative or else EA would have shut them down 💀

[@GOCAPSDMV]

No one is shutting down Jeff Bezos’s company😂😂

[@EthanKosobud]

That's a shame!

[@SlimCharles17]

Lmao, Bezos could buy EA in a heartbeat.

[@김교포]

I can tell you straight up: the people saying, 'Enough with your EA rant,' aren't actually annoyed with Madden-they're still playing the damn game. And let’s be real-true supporters of you or this movement dont say shit like that so just ignore em. I was a die-hard Madden fan until 2019, but I stopped buying and playing it altogether. As someone who truly loves football, I’ve chosen to sacrifice my entertainment for a greater cause. People need to stop buying this game because, at the end of the day, the higher-ups at the NFL only care about one thing-money. As long as people keep buying, they’ll never feel the need to change or improve anything. That’s why I make it a point to support videos like this by hitting the like button and clicking share (just clicking share counts as a share). Keep making videos like this. 👍

[@markjones952]

I watched this series! I was stunned the series acknowledged Madden has declined since the mid 2000s.

[@StateoftheFranchiseGaming]

the way they staged it makes it seem like people who criticize the game are liars

[@EthanKosobud]

@markjones952 The agreement with EA and the NFL created Goodell.

[@StateoftheFranchiseGaming]

@@EthanKosobud incorrect the NFL license exclusivity started in 2005 Goddell didn't become commissioner until 2006

[@fifasims1996]

Just thumbs downed the documentary. It's not much but it's honest work

[@EthanKosobud]

The documentary is pure propaganda.

[@bk_nreynolds3278]

Bro got bamboozled

[@dakotashutt3066]

Got hoodwinked fr

[@sammymac2546]

Led astray…flat out deceived !!

[@dakotashutt3066]

@@sammymac2546 man of culture I see. Lol. SAS tha goat

[@Fsojack]

Malcom X quoted in 2024 ‼️

[@jonathannichols1560]

The second I saw that thumbnail on Prime I knew it was nothing but a Madden EA puff piece. I can't wait to see what Angry Joe does lol

[@FyNest90]

LOL! Bro, NFL literally already has a deal with Amazon! Why would you think they'd jeopardize that?? You should never let anyone use your material without seeing the "final cut" of it first before it's released to the public!!

[@ColAngus-yf9xg]

Rule of thumb if it’s ever corporate it’s most likely a bunch of yes man mentality and do what we tell you don’t be critical

[@tylerwhaley4872]

shouldn't have signed that press release...

[@JuanMunoz-ie2lr]

You got used in the worst way possible.

[@trent.langley]

I am so glad that you are covering this. Can’t wait to watch your take

[@user-vr8ul3fd7d]

Its the Madden Industrial Complex at work in that documentary. Thanks for giving us your rebuttal.

[@codyisrude]

Never fall for the trap i think it would be funny if you angry joe and a production company got together and made a Documentary that tells the real story of madden rather than this amazon bootlicking shit

[@piemuggs]

Netflix might buy it

[@fabioj2353]

3:54 exactly! Most people don’t understand how terrible Madden has become. I wish Amazon would’ve done the right thing with this documentary. Disappointing.

[@GOCAPSDMV]

I agree I wish Amazon would’ve done the right thing too. The thing is most average people could care less about a *video* game!

[@Ben-p3b]

Oh madden is terrible huh? Why dont you make a better fucking game? I am SICK of people saying this

[@fabioj2353]

@@Ben-p3b ah yes compare one individual person to a billion dollar company that makes video games. The game is terrible. Madden 08 is better. 2K5, a game from 20 years ago, is better. You’ll stop hearing it when it gets better.

[@TMeek94]

​@@Ben-p3bbrain dead sheep type comment

[@43turkkkless]

​@Ben-p3b look we found the lead designer 😅

[@SimGunther]

4:56 When you mentioned Angry Joe used in that way, that's when I knew: This "documentary" is 100% bootlickerMaterial! Nowhere for them to go but more downhill as they say....

[@205madekash6]

wish this video gets millions of views seriously

[@LoveRetroBTW]

As you know, I'm a huge fan of football video games-been here since the start. I appreciate you, dude, and all the work you do to get EA away from this license. I will say that I did enjoy maybe only the aspects of the early days of development I got to see from the documentary, like seeing John’s scenes actually showing his development and also the early days and success Trip brought to it. That said, I totally agree with you and just want to say you have my vote and support for anything you need to continue to push the needle and open this license, bring

[@nicestoriesnottherealstori3006]

What's funny is that there was actually sales data for NFL 2k5 and Madden 05 in the insomniac games leak from November 2004, and it showed that NFL 2k5 sold better then Madden on Xbox though not on PS2 at the time.

[@RobElderton]

I'm not part of the Madden Creator Community per se, but I made a one off video being critical of the Madden Franchise and as a result I also signed a similar waiver for A&E. I asked them what specifically because I made an edgy joke at the end of the video for comedic effect, and wanted to make sure the hit piece wasn't against me, and they definitely framed it as a hit piece against EA and Madden, citing a 20 second segment where I was critical of the laziness of the developers because of the lack of competition. I kind of forgot about it because I signed the release at the end of August. Then I saw this video, and instantly remembered the email exchanges. I went to Amazon Prime to watch the first episode, where they used a clip of my face, (which is fine, I didn't come off bad and I know what I signed up for) but it kind of felt a little slimy how they made me feel like they were on our side of the argument, used our clips, then made a puff piece for EA where we kinda seem like the bad guys and ungrateful for this amazing feat of video game engineering. I'm only one episode in, so I will update this once I've seen more, but I too have mixed feelings for sure!

[@v.k.rt.m.6030]

That sounds illegal and treacherous on EAs actions. Edit: someone thinks you're bluffing on this in a way

[@RobElderton]

@@v.k.rt.m.6030 bluffing in what way?

[@RobElderton]

@@v.k.rt.m.6030 link me that if you could

[@v.k.rt.m.6030]

@@RobElderton for thinking it was a hit piece towards EA. I dunno some dude named Zach Hirschler. I had an argument with him in the comments section trying to put forth the claim that grounds for sue should be for misleading you, Softdrinktv, and Angry Joe.

[@RobElderton]

@ ahhhh gotcha, I don’t think we have a case because we signed the release forms but I wish they were a little more transparent in the way we were going to be used. I don’t think they made me or SOFTDRINK look bad, but Angry Joe definitely wasn’t shown in the most flattering way

[@lolluke54]

It’s infuriating that they obviously watched your vids, and instead of seeing extremely valid criticism of the lazy yearly roster update of a $70 game, they take small clips and label it as “hate”

[@spirenguard]

I audibly laughed when you said you thought Amazon (A&E) would expose Madden like they exposed Diddy, like what kind of skeletons do you think are in EAs closet.

[@Dollabill09]

Amazon Prime is hosting weekly NFL games and is now pushing for island games like the Black Friday game, and we thought the doc would be critical? They would never risk pissing off the NFL so that was never going to happen.

[@Wully2K]

With all due respect, you really thought that Amazon would publish a documentary disparaging a NFL-licensed product while they have a working releationship and actively bid on hosting NFL games on their media platforms? Never trust a corporate entity, especially one as corrupt as the NFL. Regardless, it's cool to see that your vids are gettting this kind of attention after watching the channel for years now. Shame how they ended up being used to paint a false picture.

[@Baguenaudeur]

For real 😭 Him blindly accepting after the first email without even asking what the documentary is about is almost criminal, it's like he was asking to get owned.

[@EmmaKing30]

@@Baguenaudeurcan’t blame him tbh. A corporate entity asking to feature literally his most critically acclaimed videos in a documentary is hardly the time to get suspicious about their intentions

[@pureo_nikku]

I don’t plan on watching the documentary but wow that’s shameful. Poor Angry Joe.. well I’m proud to be part of the niche and helped whatever little bit I could in the past. And on the bright side I’m glad you’re still around getting recognition

[@traebishop3846]

Two corporations sucking each other off... No way! I love ya, man, but you should have seen this coming.

[@youdontknow7190]

1:17 this is exactly what Activision would’ve done to Nero if he signed and let them use his clips for call of duty

[@VINLR]

All that documentary showed me was that the EA can’t handle competition

[@TheLuiscelaya]

Is EA the Diddy of video game companies?

[@mustwinsports4813]

Yes

[@envoydroid4027]

Yes

[@88playmkr]

No I think that most of them are scummy. The ones that are not are trying to be.

[@antoinestroman3431]

“They love their passionate fans…” Their “passionate” fans are no longer fans and are passionate about them changing the game.

[@RandyPeterson17]

Anything on amazon prime won't be critical of anything NFL related while simultaneously broadcasting a weekly NFL game.

[@stout8807]

The only fix is consumers filing an antitrust lawsuit against EA and the NFL

[@TheFridge7285]

@SOFTDRINKTV its always soothing to hear someone share the same criticism of Madden today. The people that tell you to keep you're mouth shut are the same people that will settle for the same bland ass game and will waste there life on MUT. Its just sad how far this game has fallen all because "Money". I hate hearing "Stop buying the game thats how you fix it" but lets be real does that really fix the issue cause in reality most people much like myself will buy the game because we love football and love the NFL. You're videos have brought more awareness to the ongoing issues that Madden has had for the last several years and I'm thankful for that. Keep you're voice alive and don't stop for anyone

[@tonystarks2024]

This is the first time I'm hearing about this documentary. If you hadn't made this video, I wouldn't have known about it, even though I use Prime every day. Keep up the great work, because the fact that they've created this documentary shows that they're listening to you all and that you're making an impact.

[@icemanx5085]

I watched the documentary i dont think EA thought that 2k was legit competition. I think EA thought they were going to be in a battle for a long time. The NFL picked a side after 2k dropped the price of the game. I think the NFL is wayyyyy bigger problem then your giving credit. I think your heat is aimed at the wrong people. I think the NFL is the bad guys here.

[@Mr123Parka]

This just shows they know they are taking advantage of ppl who don’t know they are getting ripped off

[@blackgemstone801]

11:37 that blocking logic is exactly why I can't abide by them pretending that Madden NFL is a legitimate attempt at making a simulation game

[@thewiseone2717]

After recently reading 1984 for the first time, seems like it wasn't just a novel, it was a prophecy

[@uniqueweirdo1403]

Thank you sir, this is the video that I've been waiting for! Two enthusiastic thumbs up you are the real MVP for this one as usual!

[@Kinlui1022]

It is truly remarkable that they would choose to allocate resources to produce such propaganda rather than investing that budget into addressing the many issues plaguing the game. I haven’t played it in over a decade, and those of you who continue to play regularly should feel rightfully frustrated. However, on a more positive note, the fact that they felt the need to generate such propaganda indicates they are aware of the growing criticism. During their renegotiation period, they saw fit to take such action, which is certainly more than nothing. I must say, your efforts are making significant waves in this regard, and I encourage you to persist in your pursuit. We, the football fans longing for a truly great football game, will one day be grateful for the brighter future you are helping to create.

[@cmo_buckets]

I have been watching you since 2018. PLEASE keep pumping out the content the way you are. Consumers need to know that a game that hasn't been good or improved in 20 years when the constant lies are peddled need to have a voice that cites against the mob. The saddest part to your videos now is that you have to claim legalities in portions of your videos (early often) to prevent blowback. This is the time to keep trudging forward. Time is not on their side. Theirs 2 years left till the deal is up. There's no way a company that cares about profits like the behemoth of the NFL won't take notice at some point. The detail you lay out, the layers you pile on, the levels of detail that you consistently shape in consistent yearly fashion is a true testament to your passion to this endeavor and as somebody who grew up playing this game from 2003 to 2016 when I finally gave up on the series for ALL THE THINGS YOU HAVE LAID OUT, your videos have answered my childhood frustrations of things I've wanted the game to address/improve/common sensically attack to make this game possibly the greatest sports game ever. People forget 2004. They forget Madden and 2K football were in the conversation with possibly the greatest video games EVER at that time and for those respective years. Sports games didn't do that back then, and they were. I have been following you for a very long time and I am begging you to continue, to keep shoving these dirt bag greed mongers to their ever loving graves so that the children in all of us can relive a game that so desperately needs some sanity stricken back into it regarding the improvement that it is at minimum 20 years overdue. You are riding a journey that I have been step for step on you about and I'm here to say, keep pushing, your content matters to those that understand how insanely unique this game could be.

[@ThatCreoleMan]

No way Tyreek Hill has played Madden this year. He has 12 kids to worry about.

[@Americalovesme2008]

Amazon and the NFL are never gonna bash each other and EA I believe is in bed with both companies. It does not shock me to see this happen and its a shame that essentially they fleeced you and your work. It sad to see how bad gaming companies have gotten. I dont know what the answer is to fixing the issue is either realistically.

[@kalebmartin9926]

NFL eras would be so cool like how they do nba eras with what the camera looks like based on the time your playing in that would be so cool

[@cheffreysailto8937]

This is why I will watch your videos in their entirety and interacts and share as often as I can. I appreciate your take on how far Madden has fallen. Everything you say is factual.

[@glennyg2235]

Madden has lost my money long ago, after watching this I'm never going back

[@Mateus_Carvalho]

They really did the Simpsons' Rock Bottom editing. Jesus, that's pathetic.

[@Labfrm217]

this corporate slop deserves to fail in every way, lying to creators about how their content will be used to suck off ea is ridiculous and totally unsurprising from a giant corporation like amazin

[@thatmobi]

This is sickening, the audacity, the ignorance, the deception to do this is insane. This should open the NFL's eyes on EA, if the NFL didn't make it like this.

[@whataboutrob442]

As much as I dislike the current state of video football games, I never thought 2k was all that. Very robotic and the fun factor just wasn't there. And I wasn't the only one in my group of friends that thought this.

[@KS__99]

Did you really expect the same company that partnered with EA before to make a hit piece about them? Much less a major NFL partner that gave a vested interest in Madden doing good?

[@MasenkOG]

I bought college football, but haven’t purchased a madden in six years and have no desire to. I really need to update my all pro football 2K8 easily the best football game we have ever got from a gameplay perspective

[@jasonpdsi]

Kind of bums me out that one of the all time greatest coaches is still associated with this game. "Madden" and "sucks" are two words that should come nowhere near each other.

[@ngelwings]

i agree, John madden doesn’t deserve that

[@cbrittner117]

They should rename this “documentary”, “The Circlejerking and Legacy of Failure of EA”.

[@wizardoferror9942]

That was disgusting of A&E, EA, and Amazon.

[@giggityguns123]

The saddest thing for me is that no developer thinks theres a market for a competitive simulation football game, licensed or not. Idk if it replicates the NFL cause i dont even care for that product anymore; i mean the players not tackling NFL stars and the lack of refs on the field were ironically super realistic to the modern league. I just want a gritty, hard-hitting, intuitive football game. To hell with a license, we just need SOMETHING on this hardware.

[@Playeressence]

Out of touch, wack and failed to be fair Bars 🔥

[@priorwitness]

I watched the first episode and only the first episode. Just a few minutes in after seeing how they chopped up yours and Angry Joe's comments I knew I wasn't watching an unbiased look at the history of how Madden came to be, but rather as a propaganda piece to sell the latest Madden. I was getting so upset my wife actually told me I either had to shut up or turn it off lol. Every time they showed Clint's ugly face on that thing I wanted to throw a shoe at the TV. It was a disgusting piece and definitely did not show Madden as what it has become. The silver lining behind it is my daughter started asking questions about why I was so upset. Hopefully, in some weird inadvertent way, this documentary brings more awareness to how pooptastic the game is. Keep doing your thing, Brother!

[@Mainsterr]

Im sorry that happened man. They really fucked you over. Keep going though man, dont let this discourage you!

[@AJAJ-tg6uw]

wow SDTV, isn’t this crazy? Keep doing your thing, they definitely feel the movement.

[@swordboy5477]

This is why I don’t buy EA games anymore. Haven’t since 2018. Really not that hard guys and it’s the only thing that’s gonna change anything.

[@joshprice7527]

i honestly think this is your most important video. everyone involved: ea, amazon and the nfl are awful for this.

[@michaelwhitman24]

Fuck this current state of Madden a fall from grace indeed not giving them money until something changes keep doing your thing SoftDrink

[@dvon1097]

Not only has madden gotten worse for years, the NFL has gotten worse as well.

[@justinreina9271]

Need a hashtag to start for the nfl to notice. To not sign this deal

[@luxerhusku2609]

It's like EA is trying to shut you and AngryJoe up as much as possible by showing mainstream media that Madden is completely fine and it's the loud part of the community that's wrong. That's really messed up.

[@KazeShikamaru]

You shouldn't have been so naive but so happy to see you grow as a channel to a point you got EA's jimmies rustle.

[@rpg8402]

At 10:06 when you mention diehard madden fans. There are no diehard madden fans even the youtubers who almost exclusively post madden based content hate madden. Bengal talked about how he's not having fun on madden 25 and we'll MMG literally got his 3 letters banned from madden for a while.

[@cjfrasier3996]

Playing Madden 08 on the ps2 as I listen to this, I haven’t opened my wallet for Madden for a couple years now. It sucks that opting out is the best way to fight.

[@CharlesH-t9r]

Yup same here with created teams from the xfl and usfl for my franchise modes Still fun and I have a team in Las Vegas and they literally have casino based options for the fan day and even Las Vegas's actually newspaper from that time

[@StateoftheFranchiseGaming]

It's voices like yours that validate what I do on my own channel

[@Angrychef-jx8bp]

I need angry Joe to make a video on this now

[@Royal_Assassins]

So EA has the time, money, and patience to create a whole propaganda documentary, but they dont have the money for a new engine? EA rlly is a sickening company, im literally disgusted that they're using their connections with amazon and the NFL to lie and tarnish the reputation of you, Angry Joe, and the old 2k games rather than simply improving their game.

[@Adalwolf17]

Should have asked them exactly what it was going to be used for.

[@deander7653]

Right?

[@ngelwings]

they would’ve lied to him, corpo is never for the righteous

[@lilruse]

I feel bad. I can see how excited you were but you got played. I will not watch this documentary and will go back and watch yours instead. I appreciate your willingness to acknowledge this is a niche community, even though you’re spot on.

[@RayvonBrooksII]

13:26 if i make it to the nfl thats definitely going to be my celebration.

[@muppet474]

Remember me when you make it 🙂

[@SphinX504]

Even worse is that EA is banking on this documentary's hype to help propel that extension. Disgusting.

[@basedzoe]

Even though you didn’t get what you expected it’s still a big honor to get featured in a documentary you one of the best content creators out there 💯

[@stu8095]

My feelings too. Even though they didn't criticise the game, that has to be huge external validation that one of the biggest company's out there noticed your videos. That you aren't just talking into a bubble and that people outside of your intended audience are listening.

[@braves4life25]

We know he’s one of the best… but the way it’s shown to those who don’t watch this channel will now think negatively on him, because he’s “bashing” the game and he’s just “another complainer” online

[@matthewcarroll2533]

Maybe to you guys, I'd be disgusted to have my voice in any part of their bullshit. Some people still have their dignity and don't bend over backwards at the first sight of $$.

[@SOFTDRINKTV]

@@matthewcarroll2533 I'm not sure if you're implying that I was paid for this, but I wasn't. Payment wasn't discussed, I let them use my clips for free (I made the false assumption that this would be critical)

[@matthewcarroll2533]

@@SOFTDRINKTV No i'm not implying you were paid by anyone, I'm saying that you get paid to make videos on YT covering the very topic you dislike so much - Madden. Without it, your channel takes a significant hit, if it takes off at all. So it seems counter-intuitive for you to take any hardline stance against Madden yourself, since you benefit from its very existence - unlike others who can actually boycott the series. *edit* TL;dr, you get paid by the very corporations you claim to dislike so much in this video and by that very fact you come off as hypocritical. Your channel is basically free advertisement for games like Madden and companies like EA. Lastly, think or do whatever you want - no one controls your actions except you. I can sit here and tell you all the moral bullshit but it doesn't matter in the end, it's just words. This is the last I'll say on the subject since having any sort of civil debate on YT is foolhardy.

[@kellykwp5135]

The ending monologue of this video got me feeling optimistic and excited. We believe in the mission brother

[@TheHuskyK9]

Well, let this be a learning experience to ask more in detail of what your footage is going to be used in for next time. It's understandable that you were excited to be included in a documentary and signed off immediately.

[@ProdByAD21]

Unless you’re a super young naive person, there’s no reason to buy sports games in 2024.

[@letsgoOs1002]

I am sorry but you thought Amazon, who has a deal with the NFL, would shit talk the NFL? That's kinda on you for thinking that would happen

[@Mannieskywalk3r]

Keep fighting the good fight! I remember back in my day when we started superstar mode, our parents would dictate our ratings. Create a fan, stadium, etc. The competition was crazy back then. Imagine being able to walk around a city like 2k has does it. Bro we need them to give up the exclusive rights!!!