Amber Rose and Joseline Hernandez Throw Hands | Tea-G-I-F

[@kaygieann33]

Hey, the black race has been fought at all angles even within our space. As a dark skin woman growing up in the Caribbean I felt very defensive of my color too. I was always teased and had to endure back handed comments from adults about beauty and being too black. I don't know why black skin is so hated all around this world.

[@guestguest3756]

Thank you!! I have the same issue as a African American woman. I was called Blackie, ugly, and skillet because of my skin complexion. When people describe me now, I'm the real black woman. She probably did have a hard time growing up but I feel she is better accepted in the black community more than I am.

[@MichelleMichelle203]

You know why it’s a personal attack which stems from anywhere colonizer’s interacted with the people it’s their legacy divide and rule. We have to work on unlearning and build a strategy not to take it to heart and stop feeding into it.

[@newflower8974]

🙏🏽

[@jillianumo-etuk7224]

@@guestguest3756your a beautiful woman

[@b2bgood870]

It isn't hated around the world lmao. Maybe the stereotype of how certain blk ppl act maybe

[@everythingtaj1]

Well a hit dog will holla. She doesn’t identify as Black, she’s said it but like Al said, she benefits off of Black spaces and support. Joseline is always very harsh in her delivery and at times abrasive but she’s not lying. I think both of them were upset but Amber chose to get physical, she should’ve been the one to leave.

[@DeloresGrandy]

So she benefits and

[@kmayweather2063]

This right here .. no matter what she said … keep your hands to yourself Amber

[@Kimberlyncovington]

So does Claudia with her white mother's face on light brown skin.

[@Cereal_kwilla]

Joseline hit the nail on the damn HEAD! (clearly) Her reaction said it all

[@jayro792]

So what if she benefits of the black culture. She benefits off American culture in all its forms just like anyone else making moves in America periodt. Thats life. Such a lazy attack. Change the record

[@ree4061]

Al hit it on the head…. It sounds like Amber wants only the benefit of being black to fill her pockets. She has pissed me off. She is not too uncomfortable to cash those checks.

[@hayaglamazonluxe]

Period 🎯

[@MichelleMichelle203]

The both them don’t let them fool you. I’ve never heard Joseline claim Afro Latin before it became profitable in recent years. She is very problematic and dysfunctional.

[@Alyssa-ux8ke]

Correct.

[@bladeowens]

Yep

[@dedee1919]

Sure did

[@nextdayheir3329]

Joseline is always outta line...she's a habitual line steppa😅😅😅

[@FranBenjamin-lc9uk]

lol

[@Kinksgalore]

Rick James 🤭

[@FDB_Slim]

😂😂😂😂

[@lisawhitfield3434]

@@KinksgaloreBitch 😂😂😂

[@sjones1009able]

😂😂😂

[@phyllisbrown6916]

Q is right..this conversation goes deeper

[@Blssdbydabest]

I agree. I certainly hope they do devote an entire show to biracial people that struggle with who/how they identify in certain communities and spaces. And also how they’ve benefited or not from being biracial. This would be the perfect platform to have that conversation. What do we, the audience, have to do get them to explore this topic further.

[@pinkrose4322]

True.

[@trerice8099]

Amber has publicly denied any alignment with her blackness as if it was beneath her, and as AL said she has made her come up off of blackness. She is just as disgusting as Joseline for overstepping the boundaries but Joseline did have a point.

[@Melanin360Studio]

👏🏽

[@Koko-bx5ww]

Amber is only black when it benefits her and her bank account

[@nostalgicxscaperoom]

She said she doesn’t consider herself a black woman she is biracial which is fact y’all reaching she is claiming both sides

[@BeautifulChoas1]

Facts!!

[@trerice8099]

@@nostalgicxscaperoom girl, shut up. The interview I'm referring to she was speaking fondly of her white side/acknowledging the existence. She has done no such thing foe her other half, which is what Joseline did, she acknowledged both sides.

[@blackcommunion3820]

I don’t see amber as black really but joseline was way out of line. But amber’s career was built on black people.

[@dsham5971]

Preach Al Reynolds! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@dejonbooker2450]

Facts

[@jordanhawkins5749]

Just like the Kardashians 😂

[@DeloresGrandy]

No it was built off being a thot

[@denisehenry3427]

When they can't make it on the right, they go left. It's sad that most whites don't accept biracial people. ♥

[@shawnmatthews9594]

Claudia thank you for talking about the Cape Verde culture of racism. I grew learning about this first hand when studying their music in college in the 90’s. My dad said he encountered this in the 1960s and told me about it too. Amber has never liked blackness except for what she could appropriate from black culture. Leave her and Joseline alone.

[@ms.shunte8323]

All black culture has colorism… that’s a direct effect of slavery 🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️ mixed race think they don’t fit in and dark skin feel like they have it the hardest. 🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️ this shouldn’t be a topic anymore we’re worried about the wrong things.

[@victorialove3463]

I 100% Agree With Al !!!!!!!!!!!Amber Has Gotten Her Fame From The Black Men And The Black Community Embraced Her, However She Has Every Right Not To Identify As A Black Woman!!!!!! How Ever She Has Said What She Said!!!!!!!! So Black People And Black Community She Doesn't Want Your Support Anymore So Leave Her Out Of The Community !!!!!!!!!!! No More Talk.

[@monisworldforever2839]

🎯

[@newsworthy2082]

Oh, she still wants the Black community money.

[@dedee1919]

Facts

[@SweetMissMikka]

I’m confused af. Who do y’all think built Joseline’s career??? Everybody saying the same shit about Amber, but not applying the same to Joseline. Do y’all think the Hispanic/Latin X community put her on? Or was it black men/women first in the strip club, then on Love and Hip Hop? Then on Zues? Make that shit make sense

[@Starr0010]

I don’t fk w amber fk her

[@missericanicole]

Race issue aside, Amber is typically unproblematic. Joseline is a pro at the reality tv drama. She literally thrives off of it. She knew what she was doing trying to provoke Amber. Unfortunately Amber took the bait. It’s only a matter of time before Joseline gets really hurt. The girl is a loose cannon.

[@Blissid_Waters]

💯. And I surely will not _eulogize_ her when it does.

[@cw2424]

Yup I said this too I agree

[@Sensoredcensored]

Yes Joseline is the common denominator

[@formerlyfoote3380]

I thought the same. If you take away the race issue, the root cause is that Joseline likes to antagonize and bully people. Only communication she knows is fighting.

[@alisayoung]

This is the right conversation

[@cynthiab2962]

As a black woman who was raised by a bi-racial mother, I understand both sides. Contrary to what we've been taught, it is unfair for a biracial child to claim one race and denounce the other because they are a part of both. I couldn't imagine going through life with that kind of burden. And Jocelyn was dead-ass wrong.

[@emanualcarr7408]

I wish they would make Bi- racial a whole other race. Then they don't have to pick and choose. To me it's conflicting. Just create a whole other lane. It's too divisive for society to deal with. Many pick what to identify as when convient depending on what space they are in. It does not work in American society knowing the history. It's better to be Hispanic or Latino then to be Bi racial IMO. It's the equivalent of typical Black acting White at the work place thinking it will get them ahead in society. Sorry I'm with Dr. Umar on the race mixing thing.

[@ayeshahenderson5410]

So Joselyn was wrong, but Amber wasn't? GTFOH!!!!

[@stacyr4768]

I agree, that’s it’s unfair that they have to chose .

[@creativetears1]

She says she does not identify as black so she’s not black. She must only identify as her other half that would make her a white girl.

[@melissadiamond1268]

You are a black person who has the burden of being black and get hated for being such. Stop it.

[@dmorris1256]

I agree w Al. But I’m tired of hearing and seeing all the fighting, hatred and jealousy from the black tv to be on these so called reality shows. It does not display intelligence and love of the black community.

[@FranBenjamin-yg7qt]

And I wish I had the opportunities and access to money as they do. Yet they still behave like this, not realizing or appreciative of how lucky they are to wake up daily and do something other than punching in the clock.

[@ShayTheAntiFeminist]

I didn't have a problem with Amber not identifying as blk. She isn't a blk woman. No other race but blk ppl, claim mixed ppl as their race.

[@RP.123]

To some extent. We also pick and choose which mixed race people we consider is black based on how well we like them and how talented/successful they are.

[@anaiyasmommy1]

Historically, in the United States, the “one- drop rule” was a legal mechanism for racial classification that asserted that even one drop of Black ancestry made one Black. White supremacist ideology deems folks mixed with Black to be Black.

[@blackcommunion3820]

Most mixed people wined up looking black that’s why I claim them as black.

[@lookhowshegobbledthat]

Me neither. Anyone who would see her for the first time would say she a white woman. The most she can identify as as is mixed that is all. A black woman she is not.

[@fah232]

Right

[@Quianawilson8]

I'm from Boston. Huge Cape Verdean population here and you're absolutely right Claudia. They keep to themselves and they think they're better than us.

[@NellieKAdaba]

I used to have Cape Verdean classmates.

[@sunshinemoon7075]

Amber should go. She broke the contract. Assault on set . Call the law and no check.🥳

[@Starr0010]

Yesss send dat white bishhh ta jail

[@ms.shunte8323]

Right… using her yt tears.

[@DrELewis2014]

Q is right about the deeper convo about being biracial in Black spaces. Amber Rose HAS benefitted tremendously from Black culture.

[@jackieblue4128]

These so called reality shows r so yesterday They all need to be canceled

[@mandatereporter7928]

We as black folks need to stop giving a pass 🛑

[@FG-xc5qj]

Absolutely!!

[@jessicamarie8299]

Bi-racial people are mxied! you cannot ignore their whtte side!!

[@onlythebrave4655]

there is no hope for black community ..

[@Ded-Ede]

Bs. Black peoples need to start loving one another and being kind and giving grace to each other since entire universe is against Black. Doesn’t matter the country or the culture.

[@meredithonline9784]

We should be I 🤔

[@akaziaj]

Cape Verdeans are West African, however, we know how powerful internalized white supremacy can be.☹️

[@deshonjb]

How was Joseline out of line when Amber attacked her😮

[@queentavia]

Exactly

[@DeeDiamond2981]

Joseline was rude from the jump 2 other roommates had beef with her before this Amber fight. She should have gone home on day one

[@briancombs9671]

Amber was out of line for getting physical, period. ___ Joseline was out of line for a number of things on the show thus far, but doesn’t warrant being attacked.

[@HouseOfAriaLynn]

Because She Is A Bully And Always Have Since Love & Hip Hop Atlanta

[@BiancaMcneal]

@@DeeDiamond2981 Still no reason to physically attack someone and lets be real....... Joseline wasnt lying,

[@camoore1210]

I've always felt the "Blackest" people I know are those who are "mixed". Thank you for explaining it to us Claudia, I apologize for ever feeling you weren't "Black, black". You're more than enough and we are lucky to have you.

[@talishak100]

Amber Rose puts herself in Black spaces she goes where the money goes like most. She maybe 75% Caucasian and Black people will still tell her she's Black even when she says she's not. Let them be

[@rlewis3208]

White people that know about her will consider her black too, and will still call her the N word just as quick as us. Society unfortunately will only see her has black no matter what she says and white don't consider her one of them, that's also why she does so much work with black people.

[@LasheaEvans-zq5qm]

Her mother is African not mixed race.

[@cecegiles7286]

When you are a mixed person you have the privilege of siding with both fences. It is what it is. There's European DNA and African DNA...

[@doggieworld36]

As a biracial child that grew up when it wasn't ok to be biracial, u have no idea what it's like when neither race accepts u and u experience racism from both sides. U feel horribly out of place with no identity.....

[@CaliforniaGirl1]

Grow a spine and get over it. You are black.

[@LeshaFBaby]

Joceline's behavior since day 1 on the show annoyed me..she came on like it was bad girls club..amber was trying to stay in a peaceful place and everyone just says joceline being herself..next time it will be worsewish Amber would not gave her what she wanted

[@DeeDiamond2981]

She did come in very immature. Every one was on eggshells because of her

[@CaliforniaGirl1]

Girl bye. She told the truth.

[@mmou3878]

Claudia's last take was deep. Love you sister for identifying your blackness.

[@commonsense1660]

The irony of it all; we have men who say they identify as women and women who say they identify as men and we are supposed to respect their choices!!! So, why the heck can’t she identity as whatever she wants!!! This right here is a slippery slope 🤦🏽‍♀️ I identify as a billionaire 🤷🏽‍♀️. I forgot to ask; WHO WON THE FIGHT?????

[@sbusisiweshaba1715]

I identify as a millionaire.

[@MimiCheckinfakeheaux]

Lmao

[@PeaceNotPerfextion]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@trini_islandboi]

Exactly

[@joycemasusu9890]

🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@ciarraleone2040]

The conversation for me is people benefiting from another culture but not wanting to completely embrace our culture because they won’t benefit.

[@Melanin360Studio]

🎯

[@factsmatter1172]

Bingo and that's what Joseline is talking about. Y'all see her as a troublemaker but I just think Joseline was calling Amber out...

[@devin7962]

Someone who’s mixed won’t “ completely” embrace a culture they are not fully apart of. What do you think the word mixed means? Stop trying to force blackness on everyone

[@devin7962]

Being mixed you completely embrace BOTH cultures. Y’all issue is you want mixed people to only identify as black, but at the same time if they do, they aren’t black enough.

[@Genesisonetwentyseven]

How would one completely embrace our culture? Maybe by attending an HBCU... What exactly is black culture bc it seems we take credit for all things ratchet. And both Amber and Joseline are ratched asf

[@violetseeiso8025]

She is biracial so AL , you can’t force her to pick if she is black or white and she didn’t deserve that from that lady

[@chocolatedoll1984]

Joseline struck a nerve.... called the truth nerve

[@yamomma6479]

I see nothing wrong with what Joseline said, I actually agree a little

[@queentavia]

Exactly. Amber has went on interviews and stating that she doesn’t identify as black. And she should’ve never got up and put her hands on Joseline. I think she was out of line for that

[@golds745]

@@queentavia she is not tho..she is biracial a matter of a fact she is more white than black. What is so hard for us to understand?

[@queentavia]

@@golds745 I just feel like she aims at black women when promoting things she’s trying to profit from, not hard for me to understand But I’ll still say she was out of line for putting her hands on her.

[@ericawilliams8926]

You Black Queen you ride every day for us and I LOVE YOU!!!!

[@danl9020]

I’m not biracial but have been assumed to be. Claudia you’re so right about having to claim my blackness to both black and white people. I’m proud to be black and have never denied it. Also with the Cape Verdean community you’re absolutely right the older generation strongly encouraged marrying white.

[@claudiajordanreal]

Yup! its crazy cause they are from the west coast of Africa and lots of Portuguese and Spanish would stop by and sometimes take by force sex with the black women there to create this ethnicity...and to get to America and try to further water down their blackness. is sick

[@atshabal]

I grew up with cbo verduabs people back in the day they had issues with their blackness .

[@sade9425]

Funky dineva is spot on. Claudia is a mixed woman, she is not a black woman. There’s nothing wrong with that.

[@SagittariusQueen1980]

My husband is biracial (black/white) and he said he has been told he's not black and told he didn't belong in black spaces but my husband relates to black culture more and he was raised by his black paternal grandmother and was around his black side of the family, both of his parents were drug addicts and both died from AIDS complications in the 90s. I myself is Afro-Native American and I relate to the black culture more as well because I grew up in the black community.

[@CaliforniaGirl1]

He is black. There are so many confused people out there. So sad.

[@indiasavage7]

Amber said she doesn't consider herself black. 😊

[@cecegiles7286]

Because she's not.

[@aishajackson7295]

And she uses white white adjacent White privilege adjacent she uses it Jocelyn should not have been removed from school

[@ursulatroxler7428]

I’m not surprised that Amber doesn’t identify as Black because she isn’t black she is biracial.

[@piper512]

Stop calling Amber black!! She keeps saying she isn't Black and yet folks like the panelists still want to say she is black. Biracial isn't Black - They're biracial. Now, if culturally you identify more with Black - that is accepted. But, to be the image of a "black person" when you are NOT Black but as much as what the other parent is also!! So Stop IT!!

[@AshleyAve]

Right cuz the first person you call a gay man “him” it’s Gona be a problem 🤣🤣🤣

[@christichristi5481]

I’ve been watching the show and Joseline was so disrespectful towards Amber for weeks. I wish Amber didn’t snap because she was learning so much about her “black side” that was opening her eyes. Joseline has attacked almost everyone on the show. The real issue is Joseline’s attitude towards another woman.

[@ElonSpeaker]

Joseline’s words were provoking, but Amber was the one out of line for attacking her.

[@charismao5515]

Biracial is a real thing and identity of its own. Saying a biracial person is not black is a fact by definition and genetic make up - and not a slander to demean. Its problematic to be hurt, sad or mad at those most oppressed within a community to express their wish to protect their identity. Both biracial and non-black people should understand that you can share in a community without colonizing, shaming or bullying others into handing it “all” over to you.

[@jfry7145]

What genetics or gene is stronger black gene

[@YvonAlexander]

Very true regarding the cape verde.

[@misseyyyy]

Im biracial and I understand what Amber means when she says she doesn't fit in.. Im 42 and when I was in school neither side was cool with it..

[@tirascales4216]

Joseline is a bully and surely acted as a racist on this network television show. I am surprised they even aired this at all this was way out of line. Joseline is not television material period and we're tired of seeing this ignorance in her always a fight a bully to pick a fight for absolutely NO reason at all her spirit comes off as evil and to think she's raising a little girl.😮

[@nata6835]

Claudia is 💯 on that. I was born and raised in Cape Verde. Came to the US when I was 10 years old..currently in a relationship with an African American man and have no intentions of introducing him to my family. Especially my mother and grandmother…They’re true colorists and that shyt don’t sit well with me.😡

[@daughterofzionysrayl7172]

This is why you don't mix your race. PERIOD!!!!

[@yvie9627]

Why did Joseline have to trigger her? Neither one of them is more black than the other. Amber walked away once but you cant expect someone to walk away twice.

[@The1998Deck]

Joseline is literally more black than Amber Rose, what are you saying?

[@wowwake3853]

SHE NEVER " DENIED HER BLACKNESS" SHE JUST SAIDE SHES PROUD OF BOTH BUT DOESN'T FIT IN EITHER SPACES !!!

[@realn.w.a554]

Yall lie sooooo much its a shame and just run with ANYthing instead of listening.... She never denied her black side, she said she does not claim to be JUST black, she is mixed and embraces both sides, she never denied any part of her, she actually embraced ALLL of who she is which I respect.

[@Genesisonetwentyseven]

❤

[@camilsims8246]

My heart goes out to Biracial people because the identity crisis is real for them. They are not black …they are biracial and there is nothing wrong with that!!!! But black people due to the one drop rule from slavery still haunts us. We have made biracial people feel like they have to choose. It even bothers me when I hear white people with biracial kids say my “black child” as if their child is not good enough to claim all of their ancestry. If a black person cant say they are biracial because it doesn’t make sense the same is for biracial people and there is nothing wrong with that!!! I think biracial people should feel empowered to embrace one culture more than the other but to still not be delusional about their identity.

[@Platinumcut26]

She never said she didn’t identify as black. And simply said she’s bi racial

[@tessbeautybar4792]

@platinumcut26 that's not true. She clearly stated on The Breakfast Club that she doesn't identify as a Black woman. And I respect that.

[@msnatural1000]

In an interview she said she is not a black woman and added ABSOLUTELY NOT. She is not a victim. She's "black" when it benefits her.

[@staysunny170]

You can't be black and biracial at the same time.

[@femdivinemind7777]

When Joseline said she saw her as a black girl she protested “my dads white thoooouuuggh” so clearly she just got a problem

[@nik-at-nite]

⁠​⁠@@femdivinemind7777 Some biracial or mixed people see it as a slap in the face to their parent to totally disregard their existence. And they shouldn’t have to do that just to make others comfortable or understand. She doesn’t see herself as just black or just white so she acknowledges both of her parent’s contributions.

[@Yananomics]

I'm tired of y'all calling women Black that are not Black and don't claim it. We're good over here.

[@IHYC678]

Its sounds so absurd to hear African Americans argue amongst each other about who qualifies as ‘black’ when you are all of ‘mixed’ ethnicity/race. So called ‘purity of race’ is something that very few people can claim in America and frankly it should be irrelevant.

[@echiffon4120]

Thank you

[@sunrae7680]

True.

[@EOrainbowlove1]

People like amber & Claudia benefit from having a full white parent though. It's definitely a difference

[@Vaal650]

Was thinking the same thing!

[@denisehenry3427]

Not just America. The races have been mixed for centuries.

[@sampa2nyc]

I have Cape Verdean ancestry myself and Claudia is correct about some of the older generation, but the younger generation are proud of their African ancestry, so Al is also correct. Amber should know better.

[@FranBenjamin-yg7qt]

Is amber cape verdean? I have been mistaken by many for different ethnicities and races. But I am just black and proud. When someone asked if I was cape verdean. My friend quickly jumped in and said no, she don't have hair like them. I was like here we go🙄.

[@brownandabroad4865]

@@FranBenjamin-yg7qt yes

[@sampa2nyc]

@@FranBenjamin-yg7qt Her mother is Cape Verdean. Your friend is ignorant. cape Verdeans like all people of African descent come in many different phenotypes.

[@traceyreneerivera-fernande6876]

She didn't use the WORDS SOME which pissed me off that was the 60's and 70's. 40 year's ago people don't think like that anymore. I'm Capeverdean, Puerto Rican, White, Black, Native American ( Tom Tom tribes). She threw us all under the bus everybody was racist and biased back then .In the next 10 years half the population in America is going to be mixed we don't need this decisiveness narrative especially when we all black...

[@traceyreneerivera-fernande6876]

@@FranBenjamin-yg7qt I get it from black people all the time when I'm caramel colored and look black. I go to a Puerto Rican hairdresser I was getting my hair blow dried once this chick's husband in Spanish said " She had nice hair black people hair is never that nice " . See they be just as racist and ignorant I speak Spanish my hairdresser was so scared I lit that place up. Betcha him and his wife changed their appointment time . My mother is bi racial white and black born in PR her father l is PR he let his family dogg my mother out calling her nappy head racist remarks and the n word. They the worst because they play well knowing they don't f with us.

[@truegrit2011]

I think biracial people should be able to identify as they choose. They are not just one race. Especially if one parent is white and one parent is black or some other mix of races. They can't just ignore an entire half of their DNA to make you feel better about being black. I swear that is one of the most ridiculous things that I think our community tries to push on to biracial people. Some biracial people happen to identify more with the black community, so they choose to identify as black, but that's their choice. However, technically they are not just black, and they should not be bullied by other black people to identify one way or the other just to make you feel comfortable with them. The level of arrogance with that line of thinking is so infuriating.

[@gigiarmany]

Yes.🙌🏾🔥.Claudia hits the mark EVERY TIME!! LOVE IT..🖤🖤as a biracial German/ African woman I totally agree with Claudia & as a life long world traveler I know about the hostility towards dark skin in Latino countries..so true🙌🏾🔥Claudia is always fire💥🔥🔥

[@lisalove4183]

I don't understand how people can tell others who they are, I am a beautiful brown girl and I love my beautiful black race of strong people.

[@FranBenjamin-yg7qt]

Same. I love my black race of strong ppl. I am tired of women of color phrase especially when topics are for black women. Js🙅‍♀

[@Ilovecheesecakebaby]

if you understand the idea of race its not that hard. youre either monoracial or biracial. you can still have shared roots and culture but having anyone claiming blackness can be problematic in so many ways but hey folks identify with lizards and furries so fugg it i guess

[@mandatereporter7928]

It's unfair for non black near white woman to act as if they have walked in a Black Woman's shoe 🛑 playing

[@thonyvides]

Then throw away all the points out the door. That means Claudia is not Black and so does Joseline and Amber. I swear, black community is a total joke. They allowed everybody to identified as black, comes and goes to their own personal gain (dusty black men allowed it almost all the time). Look at Amber, Cardi, Joseline, the list goes on and on. What's next, Martha Stewart is Black? If Black community and black people are a country then it's so easy to infiltrate and destroy it. Somehow it seems like alot of black people didn't know the term "Biracial". 🙄😫😒😩🤡😓😔

[@cecegiles7286]

What shoes have they walked in. Some dont like their skin or hair texture

[@rebels42wynn83]

Thank you Claudia for speaking the realness of this unfortunate situation.

[@mandatereporter7928]

Neither one of the Ladies are Black off Black Woman need to stop 🛑

[@jeanlawson597]

I'm willing to bet Amber won't do that no more. She probably got the beat down on her life.😂😂❤ I hate it happened but Amber attack Joseline .We teach people to keep your hands to yourself .

[@zasmonroe3579]

Naw ppl from the class are saying amber won

[@fergiie.]

Joseline shoved her head in a glass window. Amber was taken to medical

[@kmayweather2063]

@@zasmonroe3579 no they didn’t .. Amber was beat up real bad …

[@zasmonroe3579]

@K Mayweather yea i think imma believe the ppl who was there who said amber won

[@devin7962]

@@kmayweather2063 Actually, students who were there who are not apart of the cast said Amber won. Let’s not claim joseline won, just because we like her. Some of the casts said Amber won as well and joseline is all talk.

[@Spider-Manfan555]

Thanks so much ❤

[@kjdnyhmghfvb]

Um...Everybody tells Amber she is not Black, why is it a problem when she said she didn't identify as Black? Also, um...Joseline biracial her damn self, she ain't Black.

[@heffawtf150]

It’s the forum. Amber tried to hand the convo but then Joseline basically said “you not gone whup me” so you know what “had” to happen next. And idk why were pretending Joseline Cabaret didn’t make her feel emboldened to act like this.

[@tainabombshell8286]

Afro Latinos are Black. She’s not mixed. You don’t get to tell afro Latinos we aren’t Black. You don’t have that power. And I don’t even like Joseline dumbass but facts are facts.

[@Landima096]

Amber says that. I’ve never heard anyone I know say she’s not black, yet I’ve heard multiple times she doesn’t identify as black. Idk follow her like that though, but apparently that’s what she said on this show.

[@user-xd2nx9mh1j]

Why is she hitting people about it?

[@heffawtf150]

@@user-xd2nx9mh1j did we not watch the same video? Where Joseline said she ain’t gonna do shit? Joseline “I like to fight” Hernandez? Who has a show where she fights her contestants all the time?

[@sunshinevibestv]

We have so many different colors and shades and we are all so BEAUTIFUL 🔥 💯 🙌🏽 ☺️

[@ayysweetstea9339]

Claudia explained something many people need to know.

[@abreeanderson]

Amber Rose is not Black. She’s Irish. Just because someone can pass as black, with the culture and look doesn’t mean they’re blood is. I’m Brazilian so I’m mixed like Amber but I’d never reap the benefits of blackness because of my appearance, even though my grandfather is dark skinned black and my father was darker than me as well. Cape Verdian and Brazilian culture are very similar in white washing.

[@user-xd2nx9mh1j]

She’s Not Black! I think Jocelyn was sharing a very relevant perspective: once biracial people grow up and realize the privileges of whiteness they would rather identity as such but society doesn’t allow that and labels them as black when they are not. It’s confusing and unfair! Amber showed her deep hurt but choosing violence. Jocelyn should press charges. Too bad intelligent dialogue didn’t happen where Amber could be honest about the “disrespect”.

[@kellyprosper7192]

I watched the episode and I can definitely relate to Al's point "I'm sick of seeing our beautiful black women allowing themselves to be exploited for financial gain." It is one thing to be human and react instead of responding. We've all done it. However, I believe that Joseline knows that her sweet spot is ratchett ignorance. Which may speak to her lived experience and trauma, I don't know. Also, while Joseline did not throw the first punch, she definitely started the confrontation with her verbal blows. I do believe that both Joseline and Amber have deep rooted issues with being accepted and validated. Rejection, bullying, and not truly loving what you see in the mirror based on how you have been treated is traumatic. My heart goes out to both of them.

[@brendenhuerta21]

“Also, while joseline didn’t throw the first punch” I’m just gonna start calling everyone who lets shit like this pass Colorists. After you wrote that, what is there to say? Assault is assault

[@kellyprosper7192]

@Brenden Huerta Hi Brendan, I hope that you are doing well. I'm not understanding. Can you clarify?

[@brendenhuerta21]

@@kellyprosper7192 the title of the video is Amber and Joseline throw hands. When really it should be Amber assaults Joseline. And I’m not understanding why you would excuse Amber throwing the first punch over Joseline’s words? Most of the comments are geared towards how Amber and other biracial people feel in Black spaces, not even how black people feel about biracials in their spaces

[@kellyprosper7192]

@@brendenhuerta21 Ah, now I see your point and thanks for clariying. I respect your opinion, but stand firm on mine. Take care.

[@jennifiergensler2919]

I'm so glad Claudia spoke up about her experience we have to accept each other rather black full or black half. We have to stop the colorism in our own before we can ever stand together against others 💯

[@E1LTSaves]

She didn't go deep enough

[@gretchenbray2268]

What's wrong with saying your mixed? If one of your parents is non Black, then you are mixed.

[@claudiajordanreal]

Because "mixed" sounds like you are talking about dogs coming from a breeder. I have always found that term highly offensive. If we really broke it down everyone is "mixed" with something

[@allaboutthemess145]

@@claudiajordanrealyou are biracial. Your mom isn’t “mixed” is she? You keep trying to point out that we all have traces of white blood in us as black peoples but when your MOTHER is 100% other, you are NOT black. Sorry. Just like you can’t change your gender, you can’t change that either.

[@charismao5515]

To further clarify: the system actually does care whether or not your biracial, black, light, dark, phenotypically black etc. In fact, the privileges, social advantages, disparages and all vital outcomes of life are almost as vast/large between biracial groups and black groups - than between black groups and white groups. And these measure of disparage only get larger when considering BW specifically. Identity, racial hierarchy, colorism and white adjacency in our global world absolutely matters. The research and studies speak for themselves, so it’s crucial to understand it’s implications and the prolific issues of erasure which it promotes/creates.

[@Liyoncejones]

Joseline was bullying her and wouldn’t let her be. They already made up once. She thinks her opinion counts more than Amber’s.

[@elaineelaine2733]

Elsewhere , persons like Amber, Claudia, Penny Kravitz would be what they are, mixed and it's not a problem.

[@AngeBiampandou]

And Lisa Bonnet, Zoe Kravits, Obama, J. Cole, Drake, Halle Berry, Blake Griffith, Ben Simmons, the biraciak Jaylens with the white mothers in the NBA, Zendaya, Amandla Steinberg. Yara Shahidi....

[@purplenavajo]

Amber isn't black,so let her be whatever she is,blac people always trying to include and invite anybody to be black

[@yeswe_buy_houses1805]

Claudia I’m sorry you went through that because you are a QUEEN and I’m saying that because you have mastered so much that I admire, specially putting folks in their place so eloquently. That’s a skill to be aspired to girl. Anywho, we all experience some level of that and that’s not to downplay the severity that biracial ppl experience it but Black folks are judgmental in nature. It’s friggin annoying. Im not mixed and I feel like I’m so self conscious of everything because the ppl that judge most are OTHER BLACK WOMEN. Yes guys reread that🤕; you read it correctly

[@kandiceduckett903]

I absolutely agree

[@thecalmdaisy]

I absolutely agree with the first guy. Amber says shes not black and there is nothing wrong with that. I just don't understand why she's even on the show at a historically black college if she feels that way. I feel like if your mixed then your just a little bit of of both and theirs nothing wrong with that you dont have to pick a side. Your just apart of both races and thats that.

[@Genesisonetwentyseven]

With that being said, what's wrong with her attending an HBCU in honor of her black side?

[@Morenita892]

she is biracial I don't get it how can she say shes 100% white or black its ok to be mixed

[@DeeDiamond2981]

Joseline hurts every person who speaks with her. She is a mess

[@nylabellinger6597]

Exactly I hate her fans be defending her bull shit she's never be held accountable of what she does

[@FranBenjamin-yg7qt]

Idk wtf is wrong with Jos. She made it out of the strip club, has a better man who is committed to her much more than Stevie, she has multiple businesses, royalty checks and she still behaves like this. I wish I had it made like this. Idk wtf is wrong with her.

[@nylabellinger6597]

@@FranBenjamin-yg7qt it's a image she's portraying as this bad ass but really she's the feds

[@DeeDiamond2981]

@@FranBenjamin-yg7qt she throws a trauma at others. All her accomplishments are zero now.

[@90charim]

She hurt those who try to come for her first! Last time I checked she didn’t attack Amber! Lol

[@xavierking2505]

The problem I’m having is what Joseline thinks the identification of what being black is. She believes if you ain’t talking improper English, yelling, and fighting then you ain’t black. I don’t like the negative stereotypes that Joseline clarifies as being black. Just the fact she start it was appropriate to agonize and chastise Amber Rose in the classroom of a historic black college was disrespectful on so many levels. At this moment I don’t want to see Joseline on my TV screen unless she is talking to Iyanla or Dr. Phil. She needs help. Sis got issues 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@tashawnasanders77]

I've been saying this about Joseline she see blackness as being hood or ghetto. When she first started on LHH she identified as a Hispanic/Latino and she use to say derogatory shit to the black woman on the cast..She is no different from Amber making money in black spaces..

[@aboriginalstraightshooter7967]

​@@tashawnasanders77 she's very different from Amber because Amber just came into our community and happened to make money like a lot of people that are not a part of our community. She's always been open and honest about the fact that she's not full black and a lot of black people have always had the tendency to get offended by her stating the obvious.

[@KingQue011]

A lot of these comments are very pea-brained. The fact is that she benefits off of everything black related and denounces her blackness whenever she feels necessary. She has a black son, dates black men, has a huge following of black women, makes money off of black culture and yet she doesn’t fit into black spaces? Then once the fight happened she switched into Karen mode and saying how it wasn’t fair for her to leave after she physically attacked someone 😴

[@jUrbanity]

This…is the comment 💯

[@The1998Deck]

This right here. The perfect comment.

[@Genesisonetwentyseven]

How could a person feel comfortable in black spaces when you're constantly being told who you are. She just said why she felt uncomfortable but you were too busy being offended to listen . Look at the comments picking her identity apart as if we are qualified to decide

[@Blissid_Waters]

Yes, CV's, like legit every other culture, can be more hostile to those with darker skin. I know you know, Claudia, as Italians are historically some of the worst to do this.

[@claudiajordanreal]

yeah mostly the Northern Italians that are more fair and more uppity. My mother is from the southern part of Italy where they are more olive complected and poorer so the northerners would often look down their noses at them. But my mothers family quickly embraced my dad and us and they were very progressive especially to let my mother move to a whole other country with a black man in 1971!! They loved him and us and were very much ahead of their time!

[@kswworld5267]

Why does it matter. The girl is both black and white. Just like a mix person can identify with their black side, they can identify with their white side. It’s not Ambers fault that black men ran to her and black people bought her book and invested in her. Everyone has the choice to fund what they choose. That is not Ambers fault. If she wants to identify with her white side she can!

[@CreateYourBestVersion]

Why is Fox Soul canceling cocktails with the Queens? 😮They represent unity, strength and black Women working together peacefully. We're sick of watching black women fighting, they never cancel these depressing shows..... make it make sense ya'll ...bring back the Queens !!

[@danijones819]

wait what

[@claudiajordanreal]

$$$$ Im very unhappy about it. HOPEFULLY it will come back on TV

[@JWNS08]

Oh, I didn’t know that 😮.

[@CreateYourBestVersion]

@@claudiajordanreal We appreciate your participation in Cocktail with the Queens, Claudia. You all inspired me to put forth my best effort, and I've seldom ever seen a program where Black women could speak openly about issues while also being united, successful, and beautiful. This show will be greatly missed !

[@butterflyygyrlsworld5106]

SHE IS BIRACIAL!!!!! Nothing is wrong with her identifying HERSELF as mixed. She doesn’t have to claim “black” because she is both. I watched THE WHOLE SHOW and per usual, Joseline was DEAD WRONG. Period. I totally get why Amber snapped 😂Joseline will take you there.

[@blackbutterfly8136]

Was Amber not wrong for physically attacking Joseline?

[@butterflyygyrlsworld5106]

@@blackbutterfly8136 Joseline taunted her for two episodes straight…that girl had been constantly making racist comments towards Amber. Violence is not good and yes Amber was also wrong but Joseline verbally taunted her and she physically taunted her by putting her finger in her face while Amber was walking away…for the third time. Amber has walked away from Joselines antics SEVERAL TIMES, during this show. I have seen every episode.

[@blackbutterfly8136]

@ButterFlyy Gyrl’s World Still doesn't justify a physical attack. Amber took the bait Joseline struck a nerve.

[@butterflyygyrlsworld5106]

@@blackbutterfly8136 cause and effect…unfortunately you can’t taunt someone then control how they respond. Joseline got that twi piece she deserved, right or wrong. And lets not act like this isn’t karma for ALL OF Joselines ridiculous antics, physical and otherwise

[@jfry7145]

If you biracial aren't you half of two or more things so how isn't she black white or whatever you are you can't claim one side then say iam biracial your both

[@productionemployee8032]

Al, If this 2 are an example of black influence. That’s pretty sad & pathetic!!

[@mogetit5999]

Unfortunately with todays youth, they are🤷🏾‍♀️

[@bbeyez]

Thank you for saying this. I am not seeing any of these women being examples of black influence, good, bad or indifferent

[@shyt4312]

I HAVE TO SAY THIS WATCH THE SHOW AMBER MADE ME MAD on multiple occasions she herself wasnt interested in mostly anything the other professors said cause she felt a certain way. But as soon as she got in this class that she felt dogging the black exsperience she was catching the holy ghost and said preach but you an atheist remember. Only when it suits her. Qway defended her but where was all that hostility when she was dogging your religion where was her respect for you but you want joseline to respect her opinions

[@brendenhuerta21]

WILD! You guys when IN on Azealia Banks calling her an ugly dog face, b, nasty, all sorts of things, but white Amber Rose assaults BLACK Joseline when she walks by her and crickets. None of you guys have the energy or integrity to call her out?? For Al “it’s hard” for funky “the convo needs to happen later” not the convo on assault, but the convo on how biracials feel in Black spaces. Claudia “will say one thing in ambers defense”. Actually if Claudia could apply her growing up defensive story to Azealia growing up being called dark and ugly, then imagine if that nene mixed breed comment was met with roaring laughter from everyone. Claudia would feel some type away, she already called nenes husband a slave, It’s a step skip and a jump.

[@Genesisonetwentyseven]

Not you here crying about a woman getting hit by another woman. Joseline has physically assaulted everybody and their man but we need to have a moment for her

[@brendenhuerta21]

@@Genesisonetwentyseven dang are you a woman? Because if it doesn’t matter I can help you out the way Joseline helped amber

[@KellyMoore-mm6ms]

They not black, they are biracial.

[@BA-dev]

I’m with Q! Much much deeper conversation. This comment is coming from a biracial man who looks white and has received all the privileges that come with it compared to my darker siblings and cousins.

[@poeticpoems1234]

And???? Does that mean that you claimed/lived the white part of your mixed race and suppressed the African American part in order to receive the benefits as you say of the Caucasian part of your heritage? Just asking.

[@princetriton1308]

​​@@poeticpoems1234 when you asked a question in this tone, don't expect a constructive response 😂 You read that how you interpreted it

[@BA-dev]

@@poeticpoems1234 too deep of a conversation/discussion to be minced in the comments lol.

[@poeticpoems1234]

@@BA-dev 👍🏼👍✌️

[@yeswe_buy_houses1805]

Kate Verdian culture. 🤔 never heard of it. I tried to look it up but couldn’t find anything. Am I spelling it correctly?

[@angelb1120]

Cape Verdean

[@yeswe_buy_houses1805]

@@angelb1120 OHHH thank you. Let me look that up. I never heard of it.

[@victoriaheaven3395]

Wait Joseline is black?Since when? We are allowing a Puerto Rican woman who called black women-a maids and a monkeys m, says the N word to tell someone who is half black and half white. She doesn’t what to be black. Amber cut her whole white family off for disrespecting her black son. Yes she said she didn’t identify as black when she was younger, because of the culture she was raised in, but after having her own child that’s is black she matured and cut her family off. Joseline is Puerto Rican is not not black. So who is she to talk. As far as I am concerned, most women who are mixed that are not 100% black women love black dick. But disrespect women who are 100% black .

[@deniseandrews113]

She called herself the "Puerto Rican princess" and spoke Spanish when she was on LAHH Atlanta..

[@victoriaheaven3395]

@@deniseandrews113 ok she’s Puerto Rican. Not black

[@nik-at-nite]

Amber didn’t deny any blackness in her. She embraces everything she is by identifying as how she identifies. Having her career built in black spaces or not…she’s never waivered on that. TBH it seems like the ones in the wrong are the people telling her who she is, what she needs to be, who/what she can’t be, what percentage of her and her mother is what race (which is weird af cuz how tf would you know?), etc.

[@nik-at-nite]

@Debbie Garvey And that has to do with what exactly? We really feel good about light skinned or other races of women getting treated poorly by BM just because some of us have? As if all those women had that “oh he’d never treat me that way cuz of my skin tone”mentality. It’s giving projection and it’s not cute.

[@brendakabanda2181]

​@Debbie Garvey exactly😂😂😂😊

[@barbaramorgan6313]

Amber has come out and admitted hat her mammy and others speak poorly about black people. Facts

[@woodswal]

Amber said she does not identify as black. Sooooooo........

[@nik-at-nite]

@@woodswal Which I acknowledged in my comment. If she’s only partially black, why would she identify as such? And why would anybody be upset that she doesn’t and try to bully her into doing so?

[@ourbreakthroughpodcast9353]

I’m glad they posted this. Because I was hoping to be able to add to the larger conversation of what happened on the show. Most of reality TV has turned to ****. But I’ve really been enjoying watching this show, as I always wanted to go to an HBCU and didn’t have the opportunity to (maybe some day if I go back to get my MBA). But from day 1 Joseline has been problematic, yet unchecked. And unfortunately, as she stated in her bts interviews “Who gonna check me, boo?!” There in lies the problem!! She has never really been held accountable for her behavior EVER (on this show and all the ones she’s been affiliated with previously - Love & Hip Hop, Celebrity Boot Camp and the one she produced). As a result, this has been brewing for some time. When she made the first few comments and Amber calmly walked out, she was allowed to continue with the disrespect. I work in education and have for nearly 20 years from K-12 and have coached adults and college students(young adults) and NEVER EVER do I tolerate disrespect in my classroom (virtually or in person); whether it’s directed towards me or someone directing it towards their peers. Joseline should have been checked by that professor or those producers and been told that it’s ok to have an opinion but once you start throwing insults and disrespect and antagonizing other students you have to go. PERIOD! She could have continued that class another day or simply made up the work. But the truth is they wanted good TV so they allowed this to escalate and then say “We don’t condone violence.” Although I understand where Amber was coming from. I don’t care for her as a person and I most definitely recall when she denounced being “black.” So to Al’s point, I’m tired of celebs only wanting to claim being black when it’s more convenient. Be who you are. But don’t bring that over here if you’re not truly willing to be in the trenches and the struggle and fight with US (as a people/community) in this country. Just the night before, she shut down on her friend (Kway) about defending her like she had it all together and could handle anything that came her way. But then you allowed Joseline Hernandez (who has always been a big little girl) to possibly jeopardize this opportunity and for you to graduate...and for what?!! Because the fact IS...When you KNOW WHO YOU ARE, you don’t have to keep running around, puffing your chest every chance to get to prove it. Ok, I’m done. Haha 😂

[@londoncali6895]

Well said. Thank you, I appreciate you & all that you said. 😊

[@roxannefuentez8779]

I am Mexican but people argue with me that I am not. I wasn’t Mexican enough or black enough or Asian enough what ever that person wanted me to be . Yet I am Mexican my baby is black and Mexican she gets it to this day. I wish people understand you don’t get to pick who I am period

[@raeishere5217]

I honestly agreed with joseline for the first time in history lol but I digress

[@90charim]

Ppl benefit from being black PERIODT although we are the most hated

[@bravaci224]

Claudia, I am a Cape Verdean woman and like Q stated this is a much deeper conversation. CV didn't get out independence from Portugal until the 70's. Like many other islands that were mainly utilized for slave trade. So, yes the psyche of many older CV generations were one of racism because they were black woman that were raped by European men.Again way deeper conversation since it can apply to Dominicans etc. I immigrated at 5 years old and certainly to learn one's history is Power and healing not bashing my ancestors for their will to survive colonialism.

[@luggerphilippe8409]

Wait so the older generation wants there children to date white even with the knowledge that the white man enslaved and r-word them?🤔

[@echiffon4120]

Interesting thanks for sharing ❤

[@barbaramorgan6313]

That was a lot of nothing said

[@denisehenry3427]

Woman in the south (America 🇺🇸) were raped during slavery also. Some see themselves as Creoles, not Black 🖤

[@aboriginalstraightshooter7967]

​@@denisehenry3427 🙄🤦🏿‍♀️ I wish you all would research your family's history and know for a fact not just regurgitate indoctrination. I am considered a dark-complected black woman, my grandmother on my father's side was the same complexion as my biracial children. But my grandmother wasn't bi-racial. She was a Seminole Aboriginal. So many "black" people assume that we have some type of mixture in our family's history when in a lot of cases when you look at your records you won't find that smh

[@kt11540]

I'm tired of Jocelyn!. Amber can do whatever she wants to do she ain't hurting no body...

[@godivainc4593]

Tbh this is our fault, self included. We have to stop stamping people as black just because of their proximity to black people and culture. Her being bald is a power move, would we consider her black if she wore he natural straight hair? She’s not half black she’s a quarter and is proud of it also it’s not negative she’s admitted to having privilege so who’s to say her making it clear she’s mixed is actually a good thing? This conversation is so nuanced I’m not dragging an ambitious woman for not claiming to be black.

[@charismao5515]

I totally agree. The conversation is truly uneducated and uninformed. And it’s sad how many black women don’t value their identity or understand the very negative and dangerous implications of its erasure by those who haven’t lived it. Amber said nothing wrong…why would she identify as something she is not - by sight and genetics.

[@MahoganyGlaze]

Totally agree!!!

[@Genesisonetwentyseven]

Amen

[@nicolevt1646]

It’s ok to be BIRACIAL!!!! If you are half black and half whatever then you are not BLACK!!!! And that is more than OK ❤❤

[@Landima096]

Says who? I’ve been following Claudia for years. Until RHOA I didn’t realize she was biracial. She clearly looks black. So she shouldn’t acknowledge that she’s black even if she looks it?

[@charismao5515]

Claudia looks biracial and should have an issue being biracial. You are still apart of the community and share in its history, culture, blood line etc… - without shaming or bullying BW into handing their identity over to you. It’s ok to be what you factually are without feeling like you don’t belong.

[@brittanybitch4908]

As a Black woman I approve this message !!!

[@mamaj7104]

Yes, it is okay to be biracial, but if a person wants to claim themselves as Black, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Let people be what they want!

[@nicolevt1646]

@@mamaj7104 and that’s the issue now, people living in a world of delusion and fantasy. You are what you are. 🤷🏽‍♀️. Sorry if I see someone that is clearly biracial or multiracial I’m not calling them black. AND THAT IS MY CHOICE. Meghan is not black, Zendaya is not black, Tia and Tamara are not black. And you know what that is ok. You don’t have to be one or the other.

[@bellaminx4149]

AL you are WROOOONG once again…. AMBER NEVER SAID SHE DIDNT IDENTIFY AS BLACK within this College Hill episode! She was talking about her difficulties with both races ACCEPTING HER. Like if y’all gonna talk about a subject PLEASE watch the clips to the subject so you know what you are saying, confidently NOT ignorantly.

[@guestguest3756]

I guess you missed the part where she said she don't know how she feel if she had to attend an black school when they were discussing segregation at a HBCU.

[@bellaminx4149]

@@guestguest3756 I didn’t because guess what, I WATCHED THE SHOW! she STILL hasn’t said, ON COLLEGE HILL, that she doesn’t identify AS BLACK. when you find her saying that sentence on that episode, reply back to me…. Mmkay?

[@RayV1nce]

Omg get over it, you have both black and white. Why can’t you claim both ! If someone sees you as black claim it. If someone see you as white claim it !