Cuenca Ecuador & Medellin Colombia: Similar but Different!

[@losangelesdefrancis7548]

Love your videos. I spend time in Cuenca and Medellin and with all due respect Medellin is just way better to to live in and the quality of life is amazing.

[@natalias8305]

May be but how about residency? It's very hard to get in Columbia

[@Keyznguitarz]

Tight synopsis. Love you guys. Keep up the good work. Cuenca is "it" for me for several reasons. US Dollar, CD interest rates, varied visa types. Siempre verdad...

[@solgiv3872]

Medellin is divided onto 6 "stratas", El Poblado where all the tourists go/stay is strata 6 which is the most expensive. You can stay at strata 3 or 4 and it still very nice and safe but much cheaper!

[@frankkluz9787]

Please - can you tell me ? > Are there small nicely furnished but frugal studios in the 3rd strata (?) for the $200 - $300 range ? -- Also I heard sometimes rooms in peoples homes can be found for rent - $50 - $150 range ?

[@solgiv3872]

@@frankkluz9787 Hi Frank. I usually stay in a strata 3 for about $500-$600/month furnished 2 bdrm thru airbnb. you can definitely find rooms with people/families for $50-$150 but those are not advertised anywhere. You just walk the neighborhood and see signs on the house/building/balcony with price and phone number. Usually, the longer the rental period-the better deal you may get. Hope this helps!

[@billcasper9915]

@@frankkluz9787 Now, more like 400-500 with all the digital nomads coming here.

[@therehastobesomethingmoore]

We are considering Cuenca and Manizales. Manizales is smaller, safer, and about 25% less expensive. Currently in Matagalpa, Nicaragua…

[@billcasper9915]

Manizales is not as cheap as you think. My wife is from there and we go there often from Envigado.

[@therehastobesomethingmoore]

@@billcasper9915 The same as Medellin ? Could we live comfy on say $2000/month ?

[@Raschkodreamvacations]

We agree with you on Medellin. In fact we are moving there from Mexico in just 8 weeks. The cons of traffic and tourists were considerably less in the area we stayed in Laureles in March in Laureles than where we stayed in Poblado last year. And no pool water in Laureles. 😂 Good news about that new direct flight to Quito.

[@NeonAnimeDreams]

Wow, Medellin over Mexico, really? I know its a little cheaper compared to Mexican cities of the same size but Mexico offers a much better lifestyle, and the beaches are way better in Mexico, it's not even close.

[@hoppeanofasgard1365]

I think the reason why people say Colombia is cheaper is because you can get breakfast and lunch for as little as $1.80 and there's no where in Ecuador you can get it for less than $2.50, but the thing they don't seem to take into account is portion size, these breakfasts and lunches in Colombia for a $1.80 are very small. One thing that truly is cheaper in Colombia though is electronics.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

You can find $1.50 almuerzos in Cuenca and other areas in Ecuador. They’re more expensive in Guayaquil and Quito. And at nicer restaurants.

[@christerman]

So, the delta of $.70 for breakfast is a reason to consider Cuenca over Medellin?

[@hoppeanofasgard1365]

@@christerman Never heard of $.70 for breakfast in Ecuador, seems like an underestimation to me, Even Amelia and JP said $1.50 is about the lowest. But here's what I think from having visited both countries, if you're just looking for a croissant, or a fruit plate it's going to about the same give or take $.10, but if you're looking for an almuerzo Ecuador will be a little cheaper once you consider the portion size, Ecuador just gives you more rice and chicken on your plate then Colombia does with it's rice and mixed protein options.

[@jeffpalm7972]

A couple of months ago about 10 miles outside of Gyuaquil, I got breakfast and coffee for $1 it was very good breakfast on a side street. I wouldn't make my decision to live there based on fifty cents more for a meal. I really enjoy the mountains of Ecuador and the people are amazing

[@hoppeanofasgard1365]

@@jeffpalm7972 That's pretty cool, were the portion sizes good?

[@aileena2898]

I spent 3 weeks in Ecuador last month and traveled to Cuenca then Puyo then Banos and absolutely loved it!

[@patnewman1]

I choose Cuenca. I loved the temps, I prefer to wear a light jacket to shorts and T shirts. I am in Chiang Mai Thailand until March 2025 but I will definitely go back to Cuenca and spend more time there. A couple of really big cons against Cuenca is the use of horns when drivers approach an intersection and also single pane windows. When my neighbors were outside, at times it felt as though the windows were open. Next time I will live further away from the city center in a house, in a quieter neighborhood.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Noise is a major issue in EC. Some of the newer condos have double pane windows but the older places don’t.

[@patnewman1]

@@AmeliaAndJP I preferred to live away from “Gringoland”, next time I will look more Northeast of the City.

[@EricEric-v5p]

​​@@patnewman1 Hahaha.....ALL of Cuenca is Gringoland now! Cost of living has skyrocketed.

[@peggywankowski7128]

@@EricEric-v5p Everyone’s “sky rocket” is different…but it’ll never be as expensive as the US

[@juanvaldez7633]

Same issue in Medellín with the constant street noise, only here you don't have the option of closing your windows because of the warmer climate - you'll quickly start sweating in your apartment. I really have to wait until the quieter evenings usually to engage in my hobbies like playing guitar and keyboards and reading - just too many distractions otherwise...

[@johnnash9523]

I lived in Medellin for months at a time over years, just tired of having to have my guard up, especially with Scopolamine poisoning..

[@stayyoungandstrong.260]

whats that

[@josephpanzarella1417]

I was in Ecuador, including Cuenca, in 2019. Your comment about the airport being tiny made me laugh. When I was leaving Cuenca it was pouring rain. The cab driver said "I hope your flight takes off." I said "They take off in all weather." He said "Not at our airport. It's considered too dangerous to take off in the rain." I wish he hadn't said that because, obviously, I was thinking about it. But, the rain tapered off and we took off from one of their THREE gates with no problem.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

We’ve taken off in the rain. I think he was pulling your leg. 😁

[@jimmyjohn5162]

Great video JP and Amelia. That’s a question I asked myself months ago and you read my mind. I enjoyed the info and gave me lots to think about.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Great! 🥳

[@jeannetteordonez8529]

Love your videos, just came back from Medellín and was blown away by the architecture food people affordability, Looking forward to visit Cuenca which by the video can be compared to the tows near Medellín ; Rio Negro, Llano Grande, El Retiro, Marinilla… Thank you for the awesome videos enjoy them very much ❤

[@suetrublu]

In Cuenca now and have definitely found my happy place! The restaurants and healthcare are fantastic and the people gentle and helpful. Many Cuencanos are making their living helping us gringos adjust to life here. On my way back asap after closing up shop in the US. Hope we all choose to be good neighbors

[@ivonnezaragoza9936]

Cuenca is the eternal Spring. Is beautiful, I was born in Guayaquil and I loved my city. ❤ I lived in Cuenca during my " rural " when I graduated as a dentist, and I felt in loved ❤ But now I lived in your country and I loved it. ❤. ( Over 30 years!) 🙏 .

[@makeyourlifeeasier5794]

Nice video guys. More of these city/ country/ small town comparison videos would be appreciated.

[@9344music5]

Will be in Medellin on the 27th of May. Have already been to Cuenca (wonderful) great place, would consider moving there. Will let you know what I think about Medellin (will be there 7 nights)

[@steph01879]

I spent a few weeks in Colombia over Christmas. If you're looking for cheaper groceries, go to the plaza. Grocery stores normally cost more. Like you reported, motorcycles are everywhere and I'm definitely not used to that. There's a huge difference in overall cost of living from different cities. People in Colombia have always been very warm and friendly to me. My biggest complaint is that even the small towns seem to be overpopulated. I do want to visit Ecuador and compare for myself. Loved the video.

[@drakepassage4255]

Can't be understated about the taxation system. Get qualified tax advice as Colombia does NOT have a tax treaty with the US. Even your Social Security is considered taxable in Colombia if your total income exceeds certain levels.

[@billcasper9915]

I pay no taxes. Very simple: federal taxes paid in the US offsets any tax burden here. I know of no one who pays taxes here unless they make Colombian Pesos

[@kenskaer4311]

Thanks for the video! I have spent a ton of time in these two countries and all of Latin America and I CONCUR! Medellín is definitely my favorite city in Colombia and Cuenca is my favorite city in Ecuador!!! ❤ I can’t think of a better option than these two cities other than possibly Mexico 🇲🇽 due to its proximity to my homeland.

[@valeryferdin586]

I love Cuenca. The people are very honest. I was almost never ripped off by taxis, I always ended up paying what the meter says. The longest ride was $3. I really like Cuenca ❤

[@QuinnPrice]

Excellent comparison. I'm in Cuenca as we speak but I've been thinking about a trip to Medellin.

[@JohnSmith-SdTkt]

Hey I met your dentista Gracia … she’s selling her condo on 3 de noviembre. It’s unbelievable !! You guys should buy it …

[@juanvaldez7633]

Take it from someone who has lived in Medellín two-plus years now - you don't get used to the motos...

[@giacomofibonacci1022]

Medellín.....CLEANER than any any city in USA. !!

[@CARACAS1]

The air is cleaner in florida than in Medellin

[@dr.davidmiller6682]

Although I speak Spanish, and have travelled quite a bit in Mexico, most of my time as an expat has been spent in Southeast Asian countries, notably Indonesia,Malaysia and Singapore. My experience has been that there is no “one economy” in these countries, but rather a tiered, or stratified one. You can eat at a local “hawker center” here in Singapore for just a few dollars or go have a 100 plus dollar steak at an upscale chain like Jamie Oliver’s or Gordon Ramsay’s. There are Chinese mercantile stores where you can get whatever you are looking for from a mop to a bottle opener for cheap cheap prices or you can find your Braun Shavers and Dyson Vacuums at an upscale mall at aHarvey Normans. It depends on the lifestyle one wants and needs. As for medical, there are world class hospitals and local “poly-clinics.” You choose what you’re comfortable with and what you can afford. I would imagine it’s similar in Latin America. Now bigger costs like housing, and vehicle purchases are a different story.

[@michaelfutch5634]

I’m new to your channel. I appreciate your refreshing kindness and positive attitude. Very informative videos and you have become a resource for me in my quest for a retirement location. Thank you!

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Thank you so much! Happy to help!

[@oscargonzalez6822]

Both Cuenca and Medellin are tired with so much foreign immigration because it increases the cost of rent in the cities, that is reflected in street propaganda. In Medellin they are also tired of seeing so many idiotism from many digital nomads based on poor comments from KZbinrs. I really liked what a New Yorker said, "we are talking about this beautiful city with incorrect comparative points, in New York City we find clean streets but also many very dirty places that smell of urine and other odors, and a lot of garbage, a lot of crime, a lot of indigence etc, here in medellin I see it too but even in that I see them more organized, it is idiotic to compare cities in this way"

[@AmeliaAndJP]

People love to complain about the rent increase on properties that the average local couldn't afford to begin with, but neglect to appreciate the hundreds of millions of dollars pumped into the local economy by foreign tourists and residents. That money creates jobs that fund social programs and they're the reason why more high-end homes and shopping areas are being built. All that construction creates jobs and generates tax revenue, too. It's too bad people listen to media propaganda rather than looking at the issue objectively and with an open mind.

[@Arfareth]

​​@@AmeliaAndJPI am from Medellin, and I agree with you 100%. The fact that Medellín is atracting so many turists, digital nomads and expats, is a demostration of a succesful city. All these turists inject investment, creates new jobs, increase value property of medellin owners, creates oportunities for business, and helps Medellinian Goverment to collect more taxes to be invested to the lower classes. Having to move out of Poblado to a more affordable Sabaneta, La Estrella o Bello, is a very small problem, Its actually good news for these side towns.

[@jackieboy1593]

@@AmeliaAndJP Also, there are locals on the other end of that equation getting rich from the transactions. The business owners always benefit in whatever economic climate, because they have equity. Those trading time for money (wage slaves) always have something to complain about.

[@taniapino8658]

​@@AmeliaAndJP hay migración de mala gente y hablo en general no quiero referirme a un grupo específico que ha llegado a Cuenca a delinquir y a dañar la tranquilidad e imagen de la ciudad, eso no aporta nada bueno, por otro lado son bienvenidos los que vienen a aportar al crecimiento de la ciudad.

[@antoniaortiz-oq6ys]

Ecuador is no longer safe overall. There is a big crime wave throughout the whole country there is gang war between different drug cartels. Robberies, kidnappings, shootouts, extortion, terrorism. The violence from the coast has spread to la sierra. Now there are many criminals around the Sierra as well.

[@Ron-rk6iz]

I would choose Merida in Mexico. Very safe, has good affordable health care, has nice weather is cheap, and is a nice clean city with good affordable public transportation. Closer to the USA.

[@kenskaer4311]

Merida if you like it hot, Cuenca if you like it cool, and Medellin if you like it just right. 😉. You’re right about the convenience to the US and I’d probably consider Merida to be safer than the other two (although I walked the streets in many parts of Medellin at night without even feeling uncomfortable.)

[@Ron-rk6iz]

@@kenskaer4311 You are right about the heat, it is all a matter of personal preferences of course.

[@rayvogensen2983]

I chose Portugal or I should say Portugal chose me since I came to teach and liked it so much that I stayed. Anyway, I do have a special liking for Mexico, having lived there on several occasions back in the day when the word narco didn't even exist. Anyway, Mérida, despite being one of the safest cities in Mexico, has all-year-round tropical heat. In fact, there isn't a month in which the daytime high doesn't drop below 30ª and the night-time low rarely drops below 20º, and it is a humid heat. Its climate is comparable to Managua or to Manaus. You would need non-stop AC just to survive.

[@ecuadorexpat8558]

Cuenca is my home..FOREVER ❤

[@tonyortiz1890]

Definitely went to Cuenca for vacation and now can’t wait to retire there. It’s so beautiful.

[@ecuadorexpat8558]

@@tonyortiz1890 yes it is..we all love it here

[@udufalcao3434]

Porque lo dices? Te agradezco un resumen en los comentarios. Los comentarios los puedo traducir al español. Soy argentino. Me interesa. Gracias.

[@davidtimney2307]

Just a FYI. Avianca airlines will begin flying from Panama City, Panama to Manta in June of this year.

[@floriankurzl1331]

I will move to Cuenca next year. I am looking forward :-)

[@rayvogensen2983]

I hate to bring bad news but Ecuador is beginning to have many of the same problems that its neighbors have always had--namely political instability, spiraling crime rates, and turf wars between narco groups. The President has become discredited and is facing impeachment. People should not make any hasty decisions before waiting to see what the future will bring. According to CNN, " Ecuador was known as the “isla de paz” - an island of peace - in the 1980s, when compared to its neighbors Colombia and Peru, some of the world’s biggest producers of cocaine. But a deadly escalation of violence has upended that reputation in the past few years, as rights groups say the Andean nation has clocked some of the highest homicide rates in the region. In April alone, the country has seen a prison riot, explosions in the port city of Guayaquil, and the slaying of at least nine people during an armed attack on a fishing port. Civilians are finding themselves caught between criminal groups battling for control of the cocaine supply chain, which passes through Ecuador, according to Glaeldys González, an expert on organized crime at the International Crisis Group."

[@D_Marrenalv]

I'd prefer Cuenca, EC and the area surrounding Cuenca.. I'm tired of living in or near very large cities (and Medellin is Houston-sized or larger, although with a very comfortable climate and nicer people).. my wife and I are now ready for medium/small cities, or living in their outskirts, with a cool mountain climate surrounded by tons of greenery...Simpler, with no car ownership. Cuenca is only an hour's flight away from a large enough capital city of Quito and an hour's flight from the beaches, while still having beautiful colonial and modern architecture, parks, and all the other venues of a city (though I wish Cuenca would manage their dogs and dog-poop on the sidewalks better). Loved this video and details.. grácias como siempre!

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Gracias! Glad you found it helpful!

[@bhutchin1996]

Amelia, you're right about being nervous with All the motorcycles in Medellín. A lot of robberies in traffic take place involving 2 guys on a motorcycle, especially phone theft at gunpoint. I'm thinking they have ways of determining who's using their cell phones in stuck traffic.

[@kitthornton2336]

Heh. I live across the street from the Cuenca Botanical Garden. Sorry I missed you.

[@markminister2599]

I enjoy your perspective.

[@keayrhyasen3401]

I just cleared Migration for the first time at Aeropuerto International Eloy Alfaro in Manta last night. I am still smiling. No more Quito and waiting 10 hours to fly into Manta = )

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Congrats! 🥳

[@RKELS69]

THE PEOPLE OF MEDELLIN ARE WAY NICER AND IM SINGLE THE WOMEN DNT EVEN COMPARE THE GIRLS IN COLOMBIA BY FAR ARE BEAUTIFUL!

[@nala3038]

Quit SHOUTING

[@RKELS69]

@@nala3038 VALLASE ALA PINGA

[@ThomasEHughes]

I spent a month in Colombia and really enjoyed it but I I am leaning toward Ecuador for the simple friendliness, dollar currency and the seeming slower pace of life. Love your videos Amelia & JP!

[@ambrosejoseph4843]

CUE is international because it can accept an international flight in an emergency. I'm open to a correction on this issue.

[@japeri171]

Medelhin is an example to be followed,as it managed to rebuild itself after many years of violence.

[@NeonAnimeDreams]

Back in the 90s was Medellin even more violent than Cali?

[@billcasper9915]

@@NeonAnimeDreams Much more

[@NeonAnimeDreams]

You guys should have compared Manizales to Cuenca, climate and population are much more similar and Manizales is alot safer than Medellin. I think cost of living in Manizales might be cheaper than both places too, I know it's possible to find a 2 bedroom apartment for under $400 a month there and last I checked even Cuenca wasn't that cheap.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

We haven’t been to Manizales. This was a members choice video. We did this comparison because a lot of people asked for it.

[@NeonAnimeDreams]

@@AmeliaAndJP ah ok, no, biggie, hopefully one day we will see a Manizales video 😊

[@bruxi78230]

​@@AmeliaAndJP ----- Agree with City of Neon Dreams we live near Manizales and it is a wonderful medium sized city. Bucaramanga and Armenia are 2 other comparable cities that are both lovely places as well.

[@billcasper9915]

Manizales is getting $$$$

[@ambrosejoseph4843]

I've been in Cuenca for a year now...I love it.

[@merrillkingston8807]

I've been living in Colombia, about 20 minutes from the international airport, and I have to say your review on Medellin is pretty much spot on. Life in the smaller cities is, however, very different... Much more laid back.

[@nickolouszahar2193]

Are the smaller plces generally safe, with a few exceptions, or are they generally more dangerous, with a few exceptions. Compared to mede llin in general.

[@merrillkingston8807]

@@nickolouszahar2193 generally speaking, it's the north and south of the country that are most dangerous. I've visited several small and pretty remote towns and found them to be far safer than the cities. I have always found the people in the farming communities to be super friendly and helpful but, you must speak at least some Spanish because, they speak zero English. Even a feeble attempt to speak Spanish will earn you a lot of trust on their part and they'll bend over backwards to help you understand. Stay away from the department (state) of North Santander for sure.

[@merrillkingston8807]

I do have one significant criticism to offer about Colombia in general. The education system here sucks big time. Classrooms are severely overcrowded and totally out of control. They're a literal free for all. Even many of the private "colegios" are no better. If you have school age children do not consider Colombia, period.

[@billcasper9915]

@@nickolouszahar2193 The pueblos here are very safe

[@dinapawlow1622]

Spring weather all year long…… that’s for me.

[@elcubanito2442]

I think I would pick Cuenca over Medellin just based on how many more people are in Medellin. I am not a big fan of crowds. Excellent video as always.

[@peggywankowski7128]

Definitely Cuenca for me when it’s time. And that might be sooner than anticipated being the way the government is acting out these days. Ugh! Thx for all you both do! ❤😊

[@michealjoseph9943]

I agree, I have to keep increasing the height of my boots to live here. Let me know if you’d like a travel partner;

[@MichaelTrujillo-eg3mo]

I totally agree I can't deal with the hatred that is being spewed by our supposedly leaders. I recently returned to the States after a 15 day exploratory trip in Ecuador spending 5 days in Cuenca. I originally planned to relocate mid 2025 but I'm moving that up to early next year.

[@gillesbelanger1090]

Cuenca is like autumn all year

[@D_Marrenalv]

Aahh.. I love hearing that (even if their trees don't change colors, but the general autumn/spring climate..aahh).

[@gillesbelanger1090]

@@D_Marrenalv It's comfortable indeed but too rainy

[@AmeliaAndJP]

I agree. People say it's like spring all year, but I think it feels more like early October in Kansas.

[@gillesbelanger1090]

@@AmeliaAndJP I felt like the end of October in Canada but at least it doesn't announce a hash winter, I gladly didn't miss this year ;)

[@Bobchai]

One of my very good friends on Facebook (for years) has been a New Yorker expat in Medellin for years, and he loves it! I should probably introduce him to you sometime. He has lots of information about living there. I'm 71, fluent in Spanish, and I met and married my late wife in Cuernavaca, Mexico 50 years ago. I almost grew up in Mexico and lived there as a baby and later as a teenager, because my Anglo parents lived and ran a restaurant business in Mexico City in the early 1950s. Cuernavaca is still, nostalgically, one of my "home towns". I live on the Big Island of Hawaii right now, not retired, still working to supplement Social Security and not wealthy. Kona, Hawaii is the best place on earth as far as I am concerned, but the cultures of Colombia and Ecuador are so much richer. I follow your posts for exactly that reason! Cheers and aloha.

[@daviduribe3111]

The Big Island of Hawaii is such a beautiful and interesting place. Aloha!

[@AmeliaAndJP]

I loved my time on the Big Island! Absolutely beautiful!

[@jlynnburton9718]

The altitude is much more to my liking over Cuenca since I have Asthma

[@jaimechang3794]

I just can't see how we can compare a city that has half a million population with one that is over 3 million. I'm sure there are more differences than similarities.

[@srice6231]

Cuenta sounds like more my type of place...smaller, cooler, and slower paced!

[@D_Marrenalv]

Same here.

[@cryptomojito]

Awesome comparo

[@ericbuckner8182]

Thanks again

[@CJP1012]

I'd like a 5 minute walk to a nice beach that you can walk on and go swimming. Ideally in a golf course community or within a 5-10 minute ride to a golf course. A place where there are some decent churches, amenities, and good health care. Where is that in either Ecuador, Columbia, Costa Rica, Panama or perhaps Mexico or Belize?

[@lupitam.209]

In Ecuador you find all that in manta or in Montecristi Manabí, near the sea all that. Golf courses, mountains, ocean etc.

[@bram781]

Cuenca es mi ciudad favorita

[@natalias8305]

Talk about moving we always should start with visa/ residency and tax issues.

[@carlosv.1278]

Big cities have more western life style. More organized and services more structured. Laws more rigid to allow survive between millions of people around. Small towns are more informal, flexible and you feel more welcomed.

[@gillesbelanger1090]

More welcome? My Spanish teacher in Ecuador suggested me large town since there a large variety of people and activities, a balance between expats and locals (that don't seems reliable in friendship). Stay in cities.

[@SenorJuan2023]

Both sound great. I'm also considering Peru, Mexico City, and Buenos Aires.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

All great choices!

[@kenskaer4311]

Great flight specials came out for BA this week, John. Hurry!

[@hoppeanofasgard1365]

Mexico city is just to big and to polluted for my tastes, but egh, to each their own.

[@fernandoherranz4095]

Argentina's economy is not great sadly. You might want to do your homework, especially regarding their very bad inflation. Heard something about 100% inflation but this might just be hype.

[@hoppeanofasgard1365]

@@fernandoherranz4095 It's about 30 to 40% per year, but there's a robust informal market that people can acquire most things at relatively decent and stable prices, it's not as bad as the new portrays thankfully, not great, but it's not super bad.

[@robertkling6233]

Lovely video. How does one become a dog walker in Medellin ?

[@kingchakazulu7762]

I'm heading to Belize.

[@susanshaver912]

Medellin sounds too crowded for me. And, yikes, the traffic.

[@centralphx8204]

Thank you for an informative video. You are so right that the service level in Cuenca is lacking. It was not pleasant to shop nor eat, and somewhat uncaring even in hotels. Cuenca is small and nice overall, but comparing Medellin to Cuenca is like trying to compare Phoenix to Chicago...they are too different in size, vibe and social mix. Like the say...Its like comparing apples to oranges. Prices in Colombia for many products are much cheaper...example: Electronics and appliances. In addition one can't compare Colombia fashion innovative, textile and quality to Ecuador. The variety of products offered in Colombia is much higher. Ecuador product offering seemed limited and somewhat provincial. Even the way people dress is so different. Medellin is all fashion and neatness. (Visit the two places and see what i mean) Colombia full of music and spice all over . Great vibe that is lacking in Cuenca. You were staying in the most expensive neighborhood in Medellin. In Cuenca everything is in dollar...even a small black coffee "tinto" will cost you a dollar...in Medellin in a nice neighborhood "tienda" one gets a "tinto" for 50 cents or less. Great "Almuerzo" in medellin cost much more in Cuenca. One needs to compare the quality and presentation and the service.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Thanks for sharing your comparison. We compared them to highlight the differences like you have done 👍

[@centralphx8204]

Thanks for showing that no place is perfect and educate people b4 they travel or spend their life savings on a quick move to the wrong place. Years ago there were internet sites who painted Panama as paradise retirement. Always claimed that its #1 place in the world to retire. Real estate investors bussed humble north american retirees to condo complexes in the highland ...and sold them expensive condominiums. Bus was like a tour bus with wonderful friendly yuppie English speaking young and handsome sales personal that melt the heart of the humble retirees. So many retirees bought properties and a short time later sold them and lost a lot of their hard saved money. The retirees never realized the existence of the real poverty, crime, and poor infrastructure around them. As in Brazil, it's an amazing culture and country but people live in golden cage type high rise apartments...and in most cases can't even walk the streets! Brazil is amazing but not every one aspire to live in a golden cage in their retirement. Thank you for always being honest and not sugar coating everything for other motives.

[@centralphx8204]

True, you are absolutely right. Tinto for sure Is not an artesanal coffee, however, I just compared tinto to tinto...the same "poor" quality cost at list double in Ecuador.

[@williamhayes8391]

Thanks for your informative videos

[@andreac596]

Can you do Cuenca vs Quito please

[@therehastobesomethingmoore]

Cuenca is on our list….and Manizales, not Medellin.

[@whacked00]

Cuenca rules! I don't like big cities!

[@gregoriopuro]

I lived in Medellin 2017 to 2019.. gonna try out Cuenca later this year.. currently in Taxco, México

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Very cool!

[@2DXYSU]

Meanwhile in today's Wall street Journal: Surging Numbers of Young Migrants Try to Reach U.S. Violent gangs in her native Ecuador had killed her cousin and extorted her family’s liquor shop until it went out of business. So in April, the 17-year-old packed up and, with two small children, embarked on a 3,000-mile journey to seek asylum in the U.S., as have a growing number of underage migrants. .... Minors make up more than 25,000 of the 128,000 migrants who passed through the 70-mile stretch of jungle at the Panama border in the first four months of this year, compared with 3,000 of the 20,000 migrants who made the trek in the same period of 2022, according to Panamanian migration data. Migration authorities say as many as 400,000 people are expected to cross the Darién this year, with about 20% of them children, or 80,000 underage travelers. Last year, 248,000 migrants in all made the journey.

[@gg13308]

Do you know which city gets the most sunshine between the two cities? I have been to Medellin, but not to Cuenca, so i am curious

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Medellín, Cuenca tends to be cloudy most of the time, but the weather is still great, just less sunshine.

[@billcasper9915]

Medellin does and ranges from 60F to 88F

[@ryfusr2687]

Colombia ciudad blanca también tiene las mejores mujeres en laz ezquinas un orgullo conocer la gran Colombia ❤

[@OllieCat7]

JP & Amelia, you chose the wrong neighborhood to stay in, in my opinion, because El Poblado is too gringo. There's a lot of other nice options that would give a better feel, a more authentic feel, for living in Medellín. I've been going there for 12 years.

[@rhyslud]

I think Manizales Colombia is a better (fairer) comparison to Cuenca

[@juanvaldez7633]

Yes, far more similar in size and character to Cuenca than Medellín - which I think would be more likely to attract expats with completely different goals and needs. Considering a move to Manizales myself after 2+ years of dealing with all the Medellín big city hassles - I found Manizales far more peaceful, scenic and manageable size-wise.

[@rhyslud]

@@juanvaldez7633 I liked Manizales a lot. I just felt Cuenca had more of the kind of things we like to do. But Manizales seemed like a great place.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Our audience asked for Medellin / Cuenca.

[@kenswindle4860]

Super video! You both are providing a great service. Keep it up!

[@D_Marrenalv]

Yes it was, and yes they are!

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Gracias!

[@luisquinones2108]

I been living in medellin for 5 years now I love it and don't plan on leaving

[@AmeliaAndJP]

It's a great city! We loved it too!

[@asadastronaut]

You’re interestingly not mentioning the cartel war occurring in Ecuador.

[@Jonahc-u6h]

Where are you guys living at now? Not manta anymore but I missed your ‘move’… still in Ecuador?

[@AmeliaAndJP]

We're still in Ecuador. :-)

[@gerar10s]

Hello, I'm enjoying your videos a lot. Where are you guys living these days?

[@AmeliaAndJP]

We are still in Ecuador.

[@stephenmocanu408]

Hi Amelia & JP LOVING your videos! I left USA in 2012 at 35 and went to a place you have skipped over, GUATEMALA!! You guys need to start visting Central America - just fell in love with the whole region and been to every country here. I Gotta get back to Ecuador someday!!! could go on forever but - agree with so many of your insights!!!

[@garydavisguatemala6185]

GO GUATEMALA!

[@hoppeanofasgard1365]

Not a fan of Guatemala, there's just not enough to do there and there's to much poverty there for my comfort, Ecuador was already pushing my comfort zones with that, but Guatemala is just a whole other level of poor, nope, no thanks, not for me.

[@garydavisguatemala6185]

@@hoppeanofasgard1365 it depends on what one is looking for. As an expat who will want to retire there someday (but probably still be in the USA some)-proximity to the USA is important. Air travel from dfw to gua is 2 hours 45 minutes -like a domestic U.S. flight. That was very important for me. Poverty not so much-a gringo moving to Latin America probably is looking more for “their affordability in housing etc “-that’s the comparison I’m looking for. And finally weather/walkability is important-antigua Guatemala is at 5000 ft and spring like all year round. And tons of things to do and walk to. I’ve been to Cuenca many times with my job and absolutely love it-but it’s hard to get to and far from the USA. And the weather is a little too wet and cold for my tastes But everyone has their criteria list!

[@hoppeanofasgard1365]

@@garydavisguatemala6185 What I mean by poverty is just how poor the typical local is, even if you're not looking for work in Guatemala, which the vast majority of expats aren't as they have other sources of income, the problem is you'll always be looked at as a potential person to rob or exploit in someway by many of the locals, especially in hard times. Now I know this is not all or even most people down there but it's enough to be concerning. Also for me personally I would just feel out of place owning a modern 2000 plus sqft house in a Guatemalan city, where the locals are living out of homes often times less than 500 sqft and sometimes with out windows or doors on them even because they never had enough money to finish the homes with that. it's weird living among people that many times can't afford to get cable or satellite service even if they have a tv in there house, and I think I'd still feel this way even if I didn't get the evil eye he's a rich gringo stairs, but to each their own.

[@4nshale]

This is another great video. I have been to Colombia many times and enjoyed every trip. Your description of Medellin was exactly how I view it. I have never felt in danger in Colombia. However, we do take care not to put our selves at potential risk as we do in all of our travels. My spouse and 3 of my children are Colombian citizens. So, definitely, a potential option for retirement or part time place to live. I have not been to Ecuador. However, it is definitely on my to see and explore list. For now, it is great to explore through your videos. Keep making these informative, fun and interesting videos!

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Gracias! Glad you enjoyed it! 🥳

[@greencraig8570]

Hola a todos. Have you guys ever done a video on Uber use/transportation in Ecuador?

[@AmeliaAndJP]

No. It’s available in Quito, Guayaquil and a few other cities. In Cuenca, you can use AzuTaxi. It’s similar.

[@greencraig8570]

@@AmeliaAndJP Thank you. And, it finally came to me who Amelia looks like- Cheryl Hines, from Curb Your Enthusiasm. (And JP looks and actually kind of talks like Jeff Bridges)

[@jaybarr8098]

11 years in Medellin and love it here !

[@petermichaelcapani7253]

How can we find a good insurance broker? The quality of healthcare and cost of insurance will determine to where we will relocate.

[@billcasper9915]

Heath care in Colombia, private that is, in Bogota, Medellin, and Manizales is awesome. It blows Blue Cross of California way at 1/5 the cost.

[@NeonAnimeDreams]

What's the cost of utilities in both cities?

[@billcasper9915]

Depends on how many people and how big the place, but figure 1/3 to 1/4 less than the states

[@CyndieGawain]

How are allergies? I am concerned about living in cities of eternal spring because spring in Texas is brutal to those of us with allergies. When I was in Boquetta Panama in January i noticed I was beginning to have allergies in the short time I was there.

[@therehastobesomethingmoore]

Cuenca’s population is around 450,000 ? Seems like a better comparison might be to Manizales at 435,000. It is far safer than Medellin and cost of living is about 25% cheaper than Medellin. Just a thought….

[@AmeliaAndJP]

We went to Medellin so that's why we compared them. Also, a lot of our viewers are trying to decide between these two cities. We talked a lot about the differences in this comparison, including the population.

[@NE-gw5rz]

It's really not advisable to make a determination about a place if you haven't lived there. One needs to spend a long time in a place, years, to be able to speak about it in a sophisticated way and proffer advice. I appreciate what you do but it's also a little bit like fast food and makes these places more like commodities than what they are.

[@gregoriopuro]

Are you guys still living in Cuenca ? If not, where are you living now ?

[@daviduribe3111]

They moved away from Cuenca long ago, and they prefer to not mention where they currently live.

[@lareekline8232]

Love your videos! Are you still in Cuenca? If not, where are you now?

[@tadatomalinakloans5995]

Aren't you missing a key difference: the arts? Particularly popular music and dance. Cuenca is sometimes called an Arts City, but it feels like a sleepy backwater compared to Medellin. Salsa dancing, international music artists, etc.

[@rogerjackson3227]

The best way to deal with the government in the US is to ignore it all together. You can’t do anything to change it so don’t follow it. I have not watched the news in over 10 years and I am so much happier because of it. Montecristi Ecuador or Manta when I come down. You guys do a great job thank you!!

[@thomasbarchen]

So stick your head in the sand while you get shot in the ass.

[@yasminbarry7941]

I hope it's OK for me to add this: For those interested in Medellin, the channel entitled "Life with David" has a ton of really great information, especially on safety issues.

[@sinnombre3855]

If you like being lied to, eventually you will find yourself surrounded by liars. That about covers it when it comes to Davie boy and his merry band of followers.

[@deanc2000]

What about Panama City?

[@hoppeanofasgard1365]

Far more expensive than any city in Ecuador or Colombia, crime rates are about inbetween Medellin and Cuenca but a little closer to Medellin, probably has the most convenience between the 3 cities though, Panama has many American companies and Amazon functions there.

[@guillermogouldburn763]

@@hoppeanofasgard1365 Panama City's main drawback is heat/humidity. If it had Medellin's weather it would be unbeatable. Lots of Colombians there, by the way.

[@hoppeanofasgard1365]

@@guillermogouldburn763 Lot of people like the heat, so I wouldn't say that's the main drawback persay, but it certainly can be. For me personally though, the main drawback is it's just to expensive, the cost of living there is about 85 to 90% of what it is in the states on average, in fact you might even be able to find a lower cost of living in states like Tennessee, Arkansas and West Virginia.

[@guillermogouldburn763]

@@hoppeanofasgard1365 True.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

It’s on the list 👍

[@billyandpk]

What healthcare are you using in EC? I have been on IESS for 11 years and I do not like it. Thank you.

[@JoseRB]

Medellín en población es cinco veces más grande que Cuenca como dicen ustedes pero Cuenca urbana es más grande que Medellín urbano en extensión. La cantidad de población no tiene nada que ver con el tamaño de una ciudad. El mapa que ponen ustedes de Medellín está con pueblos aledaños como Bello al norte, Envigado al sur etc que no es Medellín, son cantones como decimos en Ecuador como Paute, Gualaceo etc que son parte de Cuenca solo que están distantes y no tan cerca como Medellín, como es el caso de Bello o Envigado y otros más aledaños a Medellín que están juntos prácticamente. Bello o Envigado tienen su propia alcaldía o municipio.

[@robinlambert2286]

We have been enjoying you show since 2021. We ❤Ecuador. Have you done any videos in Loja? We are planning a visit in November, to look at some properties. Having a difficult time decided between Loja and Cuenca.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Here’s a playlist for Loja: kzbin.info/aero/PLuE28kB_I-ceN3qK-ky1KVdSwZApAlF_x

[@hoppeanofasgard1365]

Medellin may be more dangerous than Cuenca but I highly doubt it's more dangerous than Guayaquil.

[@niko_walks]

More . . less . . how many fairies can dance on the head of a pin? Both are places with long entrenched organized crime, severe poverty and no go neighborhoods. Medellin crime is a bit more focused on getting cash out of extranjeros . . while Guayaquil has seemingly more internecine warfare . . much of South America requires one to have their head on a swivel.

[@JuanGArangoTV]

Hope you to the cable cars.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Next time!

[@JuanGArangoTV]

@@AmeliaAndJP if I am relocated there by next year... will be my guests to head to Fredonia and Guatapé

[@anthonyduckworth6380]

Wow, I really enjoyed this one. I live in Medellin, in zona El Poblado. I originally came here expecting to stay one year, and here it is, four years later, and I'm still here, with no plans to leave anytime soon. I'm retired and ex military, and there's plenty of us here

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Thanks for sharing!

[@spiritosa0123]

Prefiero la ciudad con la mayoría de productos y restaurantes veganos. lol. o just lots of fresh markets!!