America Just KILLED China's Tech Industry

[@JohnCooganPlus]

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[@cherubin7th]

Could you please make a video why this start ups need so much money to make an app? Is it mostly marketing or so?

[@koiyujo1543]

Also china won't be able to make them because of this kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHy4g3hmasSFhqs it tells us why it's well too late because of corruption and such Please I ask you to see this

[@Wheretherivermeets]

Scam comments breed on scam videos. "we're at war" clickbait, what did you expect?

[@marctemura2017]

No Coogan, you have to understand that China's one child policy is cutting their population in half. So by 2050 there be less then one billion Chinese in China. So with that happening they are going to de-industrialize with or without America.

[@Madame702]

You don't have to worry John, Russia, China, Iran, Canada, and Germany all have terminal populations that will be cut in half by 2050. These nations will de-industrialize to a certain extend because of a shrinking population.

[@johnkaruitha2527]

The worst predictiion of the 21st Century

[@weizheng7885]

1 year passed, China's tech is thriving!

[@sighsgkj]

Well this aged like spilled milk.....

[@MisterSplendy]

I know LMAO. Pathetic, really.

[@sudjen]

@@MisterSplendy?

[@junhong888]

china tech is not killed but advanced

[@thomasrogers9146]

6 months later china makes a breakthrough in their domestic 7nm chips.

[@majesticflyingbrick]

This video aged like milk lol

[@Nahjitwhat]

Made by European machines. How self sufficient

[@mythbusterthe6749]

​@@Nahjitwhat And you think American designed chips are made by US machines??? 😂😂😂

[@Nahjitwhat]

@mythbusterthe6749 first and foremost, the USA makes its semiconductors much more advanced than China such as 3NM and 5NM. Secondly your right they use European machines but Japanese Korean and American lithography machines as well. Lastly, even if the USA didn’t use its own machines to produce chips these are all allys that will give the USA its chips no matter what

[@mickyusuf9778]

​@@Nahjitwhatbut in Iphone only name made in US 😂😂😂

[@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane]

The US also tried to keep them out of space, and now they have their own GPS system and space station.

[@telesophy]

1. The "US" didn't try to keep them out of space. They can go to space any time they want. America created a policy of not working with the Chinese in space -- and for all the right reasons because China's purpose and ambition for space differs from the rest of the world in that it is purely in the interest of militaristic reasons. Moreover, the reason China was kept out of the INTERNATIONAL space station was a also for the aforementioned factor AND the decision was not America's alone to make, but other nations also agreed -- the ISS is not owned by any single nation. Although the media cites it was because of Human Rights abuses and National Security concerns, these concerns were addressed to the ISS partners and they accepted the decision. It's ironic how America can immediately trust Russia and Japan in space, but not China. Russia / Soviet Union was the enemy in the Cold War and Japan was another enemy in WW2. It didn't take long for America to know they can trust them in space. However, as for China? Damn. They must know China's intentions are REALLY bad for America to ban NASA from working with China. 2. The Chinese NEEDED their own GPS regardless of the facts this video presented. China needed its own GPS system for militaristic (there it is again) reasons. They are paranoid about America's "ownership" of the GPS system, sudden denial of access, and concerned with possible secret reverse engineering during war time scenarios or conflicts (i.e America would be able to track their ships, tanks and etc forces if they continued to rely on GPS). Make no mistake: The Bei Dou (their GPS) system -- much like GPS -- is made for the military, not for the people. They only opened up certain less accurate frequencies for public use -- also like GPS. Therefore, China having their own GPS has nothing to do with any squeeze or pressure from America in the battle for tech supremacy. They've been working on Bei Dou since the 80's. America doesn't keep anyone out of space.. NASA is the leader in space and has way more missions in space than China, missions that dates back to the 50's. Have you see what China was like in the 50's? In fact, what's even more glaring is the latest Mars missions from both China and America. China's rover left Earth before NASA's did, but NASA's was able to land first, while China's has to orbit for 3 months to plan a landing spot. NASA's rockets can go in hot and land. It did not spend any time orbiting. That's the difference between the technology. There is no competition.

[@williamgordon5708]

Without dem high end chips, soon we'll also see how far China's space program will crumble.

[@directxxxx71]

@@williamgordon5708 So US' landing on moon was faked, since no nano-meter chips were available in 60s?

[@eitkoml]

@@telesophy The whole intent of refusing to allow China access to the International Space Station was to keep China out of space. Also, the US started developing technology for space for purely militaristic reasons. China also needs to defend itself. Just look at America's (and the west's) highly aggressive history. There was colonialism, then the continued military actions in the global south, then the coups, assassinations, etc. There are also the sanctions, embargoes, etc.

[@eitkoml]

China also developed its own nuclear weapons and nuclear reactors. I'm confident that China will develop the capacity to design its own chips and build the equipment needed for manufacturing them.

[@charchar8]

One VERY important thing you forgot to mention is that Foxconn is a Taiwanese company, not mainland Chinese. It is true that the majority of the Foxconn factories are on the mainland.

[@chriswong9158]

Foxconn (Taiwan) not only left USA mainland, but also India because of production problem.

[@alext8828]

@@chriswong9158 What's the significance of that? I'm not following. This is all new info to me. Please excuse the interruption.

[@kingwing3203]

The U.S. trade sanctions have turned the U.S. dollar into useless paper, because the U.S. dollar cannot buy what you need. The mainland reunified Taiwan Province not because of chips, but because Taiwan Province is China's inherent territory. Huawei is banned because the United States cannot use Huawei equipment to eavesdrop on telecommunications communications.

[@sighsgkj]

you must not have read the republic's own constitution

[@archers101pd7]

a year has passed and do you still feel the same John?

[@jliang70]

John does not like the way that the Chinese tech sector has developed in the past year much like how Gina Raimondo felt after her visit to China late last year.

[@living-wellon-less5669]

Supposedly some of the critical components needed for military application are going to be moved to America where they belong!

[@kingwing3203]

The U.S. trade sanctions have turned the U.S. dollar into useless paper, because the U.S. dollar cannot buy what you need. The mainland reunified Taiwan Province not because of chips, but because Taiwan Province is China's inherent territory. Huawei was banned not because of the eavesdropping backdoor, but because there is no eavesdropping backdoor, which means that the United States cannot use Huawei equipment to eavesdrop on telecommunications communications.

[@trail_mix24]

As somebody that works on the track tools that feed some of the ASML scanners, I can confirm that they're huge, expensive, and super neat. I couldn't imagine being tasked with reverse engineering an EUV scanner, as they're so complex and intricate. The track tools I work on are comparably simple. Spin wafers to spread resist or developer, bake the wafers, send it to the scanner. Most of my time is spent reteaching the robots on where to put things, while I always see the scanner guys working on crazy amounts of pipes and stuff. Even the downstairs units, where the lasers shoot out of are super weird. They have special ducts for guiding the laser up to the scanner that have to be perfect

[@TaTa-ce1kq]

China had her own scientists to do the relevant R&D. China has her own EUV machine. In a few more months great improvement will be the results. That's why ASML recently want to sell her machines to China. Keep it for the UasSA.

[@Laminar-Flow]

@@TaTa-ce1kq Yeah right… China has great engineers but there’s no way they can produce 3NM chips within the next few years without stealing IP and the whole world knows it. The closest China has gotten up to this point is like 7-12nm but I can’t remember.

[@kingwing3203]

The U.S. trade sanctions have turned the U.S. dollar into useless paper, because the U.S. dollar cannot buy what you need. The mainland reunified Taiwan Province not because of chips, but because Taiwan Province is China's inherent territory. Huawei was banned not because of the eavesdropping backdoor, but because there is no eavesdropping backdoor, which means that the United States cannot use Huawei equipment to eavesdrop on telecommunications communications.

[@fangdarhythm]

This video and headline didn’t end well 😅

[@raffashaclassic3537]

America can't challange China, America already become a banana republic

[@henrysantos121]

Matatan.🔥🤣😂🔥. Ribirin HS,

[@heatbower3729]

Seriously dude wow 👌 it's ironic how people think

[@utopiasekei6859]

"war is the mother of innovation" i wont be shocked if they do come up with their own tsmc

[@RoadTripTravel]

This is such a great video in that you have successfully encapsulated what the issues are. The real problem is the massive bureaucracy that the U.S. has aloud to develop with no leaders looking at the future, but rather a short term handout. Case in point is FTX. You didn't mention AMD? I think it will be very helpful once TSMC gets online in Arizona. I live in AZ and am astounded at how massive the plant will be. And, how quickly they are building it.

[@JohnCooganPlus]

yes, this video could have easily been an hour long hahah. it’s so complicated. AMD and Intel are obviously important, but even TSMC is building new fabs in the United States now. there are so many layers to this.

[@flethacker]

and do you think is building it and who do you think will work in it? americans? haha nope

[@joemagarac405]

Samsung, which has always maintained fabs in the US, announced plans to build a $32 billion factory also in the Austin area - before the CHIPS Act. The employees will all be Americans. Barring politicians bought off by China, it’s likely the US will be getting back in the chipmaking game big time.

[@SeoWoojin55]

Samsung and SK Hynix are also building facilities in Texas now

[@Madame702]

No Mike, China's one child policy is going to cut their population in half by 2050. In order to have an economy you need to have 20 and 30's somethings in your society but when you only have old people your in big trouble. By 2050 there will be only 600 million Chinese. So we are going see China de-industrialize. The same thing is going happen to Germany as well. They ran out of babies 20 years ago.

[@soolve1]

"China could interpret this as an all out economic war" ... Well, it is, America took away their economical ability, and chance to progress further. You can't possibly expect them to believe that was just a friendly bout.

[@marjorieross9065]

Hey John, One year has passed, what is going now?

[@mgronich948]

Good question.

[@jwatts56]

I work for ASML, more specifically as an engineer installing EUV machines at customer sites. The EUV is the second most technologically complex machine ever created. China is far from creating an EUV machine. But they are close when it comes to DUV machines

[@harrykekgmail]

Necessity is the mother of invention. Alternative technology will develop

[@JasMine-nq6ci]

Techs keep changing like de winds...maybe today's complex machines may become Bronze Age stuffs within 2-3 years with advance different machines + with different materials from other unknown countries....

[@jwatts56]

The next step is high NA which right is still in the late stage of development. The development of EUV required so many resources and funding we literally had to sell 25% of the complaint to our biggest customers; Intel, Samsung and TSMC just to fund it

[@zenscout]

@@jwatts56 TY J-Watts

[@gunsroses1293]

What is the first technologically complex machine ？

[@qpmkro]

One year later and this video is still shit

[@sleepypanda2297]

This aged badly

[@BureaucracyWorld]

A year later BYD is out selling Tesla and all auto brands.

[@mgronich948]

American just killed China's tech industry (1 yr ago). Then the Huawei Mate 60 pro and G. Raimondo was hopping mad. Then Huawei comes out with a GPU equal or slightly faster than NVidia's A100. Raimondo got even madder. Then 2 of S. Korea's semi-giants are now slow walking the construction of new fabs in the US. And TSMC's who originally planned to build 2 fabs in Ariz, has delayed the 2nd one so many years most think it'll never be built and their 1st one is taking 2X as long as their new FAB in japan. The 1st fab in Ariz is still not finished, maybe in 2025, maybe later. Maybe 50B in subsidies isn't enough.

[@MisterSplendy]

Well said.

[@hrldoliente1]

Good luck to China in being able to reverse engineer an EUV machine. Even Nikon failed to compete with ASML in the EUV sector. Only ASML was able to fully build this highly complex machine. From someone who used to repair ASML machines.

[@pikachus5m166]

More like Nikon ran out of investment money in the aftermath of the Plaza Accord. Wasn't it Nikon that devised the photonic processes that ASML used for their EUV machines ?

[@stennetmang]

Remember this is what the US says to china in space technology,now China is the only country who have a running space center independently,

[@kingwing3203]

The U.S. trade sanctions have turned the U.S. dollar into useless paper, because the U.S. dollar cannot buy what you need. The mainland reunified Taiwan Province not because of chips, but because Taiwan Province is China's inherent territory. Huawei was banned not because of the eavesdropping backdoor, but because there is no eavesdropping backdoor, which means that the United States cannot use Huawei equipment to eavesdrop on telecommunications communications.

[@XIFLEISNOIR]

China have lot of Companies in Africa,And I love it

[@patrickyong1501]

Happy to know that America has woke up

[@PutXi_Whipped]

It hasn’t. The money from the CHIPS Act went into stock buybacks

[@bumbum-k6x]

We Tried ? CCP is not a Happy Camper '

[@kingwing3203]

The U.S. trade sanctions have turned the U.S. dollar into useless paper, because the U.S. dollar cannot buy what you need. The mainland reunified Taiwan Province not because of chips, but because Taiwan Province is China's inherent territory. Huawei was banned not because of the eavesdropping backdoor, but because there is no eavesdropping backdoor, which means that the United States cannot use Huawei equipment to eavesdrop on telecommunications communications.

[@Mana-xd2tp]

I'm from the future. Nothing has changed.

[@sodacan2594]

This didn't age well - China has doubled down and their semiconductor market is booming after massive investment to produce their own chips and tooling. The city of Guangzhou alone has set aside $21billion for semiconductor and other tech projects that remove dependancy on the US. 99% of China's tech industry rely on chips that have been around for years and investment and production into these domestic 'mature chips' is also at record levels. Ironically some are now predicting that in a decade, China will surpass the US for semiconductor manufacture as a result of this.

[@eriksonyw]

As far as market restrictions go, the U.S. has also placed market restrictions on China and other foreign countries for long time. Most recent example is the EV cars. Older example is Sony's smart phones. Most Americans probably don't even know that Sony makes smart phones because of this. On the other hand, Windows, McDonald's and Coca Cola drinks have been in China for ten's of years without restriction. The world is a little more complicated than it's being portrayed .

[@dibo8879]

This aged badly xD

[@htjungle]

How do you so surely know the intention and plan of the top leading group of China?

[@marcelma]

Look at what the sanctions did to Russia. They motivated Russia to do things themselves they had been buying from others before. Till 2014 Russia imported huge quantities of grain, today Russia is one of the most important exporters of grain. I guess things will develop similarly in China.

[@robertroberto4749]

TSMC is ZERO!! without Europe's company ASML (manufacturer of the most advanced machine ever produced by humans -> 5 nm EUV semiconductor litography maschine).

[@devinjohnson1999]

Right before this ban, I remember Huawei all of a sudden block access to bootloaders (what makes devices boot). Didn't look suspicious at all.

[@kingwing3203]

The U.S. trade sanctions have turned the U.S. dollar into useless paper, because the U.S. dollar cannot buy what you need. The mainland reunified Taiwan Province not because of chips, but because Taiwan Province is China's inherent territory. Huawei was banned not because of the eavesdropping backdoor, but because there is no eavesdropping backdoor, which means that the United States cannot use Huawei equipment to eavesdrop on telecommunications communications.

[@afdave7]

Incredibly well put together video, Sir. It was exciting, and relevant. You explained things simply, but it wasn't condescending. Gently included the political piece without overeditorializing. Really enjoyed it. True that chip wars are the next gen weapon systems, both metaphorically and literally. Cheers. Thank you.

[@Yanji-o6z]

This also prepared the ground for the rebirth of China's tech industry.

[@thinkpositive3667]

It's OK to be optimistic if that's how you comfort yourself. But that doesn't change the reality.

[@yangshujian]

@@thinkpositive3667 So do you think China's tech industry has been killed already?

[@phinadelphiahlongwane3485]

​@@thinkpositive3667hope now you have heard the news... China has developed their own lithography machines...

[@jliang70]

@@thinkpositive3667 Yes, the reality does change. SMIC is now working with Huawei on their new range of Kirin chips, And also it looks like Xi's policy on semi conductor industry is working very well, China is enlarging its capacity for mature chip technology which are used in toaster, EVs, even weapons. They are also catching up fast with their advanced chip technology. This will mirror what happend in the space industry when the US and its allies rejected China to take part in their space program, China is now more or less having its own space industry. In term of talent China and India are two countries producing most of the talent in the semi conductor industries that will be a major influencing factor in the future trend of semi conductor industry. It looks like the reason for US sanction on Huawei is justified because this is a company that leads the Chinese tech industry in many area, it is not just strictly a maker of electronic goods like phones, tablet, computers, it is an all round technology firm that is also into chip design, manufacturing of telecommunication equipment, network equipment, AI, super computers, construction of telecommunication networks, cloud computing. The US attempts to kill China's tech industry is failing.

[@kazegarasu4704]

@@thinkpositive3667 So what's your reality ? The Chinese are trying their best to overcome this issue . The least you can do is to cheer for them . Thank you

[@LanyiLaszlo]

Risk is, that these moves against China might make them not just to catch up, but to overtake. Which might not have happened, if they keep getting current western tech. So this step will lead to full loss of control and in a given case also loss of leading position on a longer term. Time will tell. But we remember the story of Lamborghini for example. This sounds similar on a different scale.

[@arnepietruszewski9255]

The problem in high end chip production is that you cant just build it yourself. You are reliant on certain companies all over the world and only those companies are able to make the special part in the way it is needed. Designing a chip in 4nm is one thing but making that chip in 4nm is a whole different thing.

[@LanyiLaszlo]

@@arnepietruszewski9255 If it is achievable, then it is. And if you heard the news, they are improving with huge steps....

[@jliang70]

@@arnepietruszewski9255 I think you should try to understand the difference between 4nm chip and 7nm chip, in what way they are different, how you can make 7nm chip performs as well as 4nm at what sort of cost. Also the tech and method use to make 4nm chip and improve the yield rate. This channel does not cover that but a lot of video form digitime channel do.

[@seaventura1]

Apple products are completely open to US government as well, by NSA as everyone knows very well.

[@RetroGamerAdy]

that didn't age so well , and on forward it will further age like milk

[@Mister-Wabbit]

We have been at war since 2014 i was in the military we were not allowed to talk about it but now im out and its not a secret anymore

[@PutXi_Whipped]

LMAO

[@christopherx2216]

After 10 months, please make a reaction video to the new Chinese Kirin chips. They are saying after 2 more years, China will get most of all kinds of chip orders (since they have already gotten the most Home appliance chip orders). What do you think?

[@Helldiver211]

Please make an updated video after huaweis 7nanometer process

[@hildablanco1591]

If we use bulbs like the 1970 s TV and hand crank on car windows we could use carburetor cars instead of EFi

[@skazka3789]

Keep in mind that while these restrictions may hamper development of high tech nodes, 86% of the market share is for mature tech below 28 nanometres and China has massively invested in lots of mature fabs. So while the US may get to the highest tech first, China will have the last laugh since they control the market. Then the Chinese chip companies will have become huge and then start pouring money into RandD for the most advanced chips.

[@nickl5658]

In late 2022, China's homemade lithography machines started mass producing 22nm chips.

[@d.o.g573]

Hello Mr. CCP officer !

[@skazka3789]

@@d.o.g573 Truth hurts

[@d.o.g573]

@@skazka3789 You can squabble all day - maybe the German government should stop borrowing money to Tschina ?

[@thinkpositive3667]

Who cares about 22nm? That's so 90s LMAO.

[@mickelodiansurname9578]

So the problem with the AI wars... what we are looking at right now, is that they have a shelf life. AI is heading somewhere and very fast. So I've work in IT since the 1980's, I got my first computer back in 1979 as a kid. In that time hardware... the physical technology like chip design, memory capacity, storage capacity, networking has exploded faster than any industry on Earth now or in the past. Every time it did the software needed also expanded to make better use. My first computer had about 2 kilobytes of usable memory. My second one had about 64kb of usable memory. The one I'm using right now in kilobytes has almost one million times that and the processor is almost a million times faster, and this is my home PC. This is something like buying a model T Ford back in the day and by the time you upgrade, the next car is the size of a shoe box, cost $1 and has a top speed of 10,000mph... that's pretty much a good analogy. And that held sway until about 10 years ago. But the huge advances I've personally seen, and worked with over the past 35-40 years are nothing like the advances in AI hardware and software. The advance in the AI sector in just the past 24 months is similar to the huge advance I seen during all my time in this field, and it is accelerating. But there is a wall coming. Eventually AI will be so advanced that we will no longer need human designers, or coders or even data scientists... the AI itself will be able to advance itself. That wall, that some refer to as the 'singularity', the last invention humans ever need to make themselves, by my reckoning could be by 2030. Some put it at 2040... and pessimists might push that out to 2045. Hence the race. and hence the US putting the spanner into China, and Russia... right now. And Putin is right about one thing. Whoever controls AI really will control the world. But, I, and Putin are making the assumption here that ultimately AI is something that is controllable... otherwise AI will control AI.

[@MelaninMagdalene]

It’s coming

[@sylviam6535]

I was told that the singularity was almost here in 1995…

[@gamerplays5131]

@Donald Thompson eurobeat has an A.I. singer that sings and makes it's own songs. It mostly sings about killing itself though :/

[@shrimpkins]

I don't see how humans can possibly control a general AI; we've already been ceding control of many decision processes over the past few decades, as computers have become more efficient than us. They don't even need to achieve parity in intelligence to be superior, although I agree with you that this will likely happen by 2030. No way to predict what might happen once that threshold is crossed.

[@mickelodiansurname9578]

@Donald Thompson thats a good question, you know that art and images is a primary target for AI...and with the huge language models, then writing, news, articles, maybe soon books could be written by AI... But there is something many pessimistic critics fail to recognise. Which is, for example, people still buy handmade shoes... And they pay a lot for those. Because they want articles that demonstrate craftsmanship and skill. Music absolutely falls into that category. But when do I think hiting an online composition model to write a jingle for your advert? Or write beats? Or elevator music? Well that ship has already sailed. If someone is a business paying for music they will always prefer cheap over art.

[@mottscottison6943]

Lol this video aged like milk. Never bet against China.

[@christineyoung8345]

History sure proved you wrong. Amateurs should know their limits.

[@silentwatcher1455]

American chip manufacturers are bankrupt and closing down.

[@Emphasis213]

It's actually better to have multiple superpowers then just one hegemonic one and no superpower would dare directly attack another due to fear of nuclear armageddon- this makes for a more fair and equitable world. Unfortunately it's at the expense of our living standards. In the past almost every 10 years we would go to politocal wars, physicals war, assist in proxy wars or enable sanctions. This was usually done for ideology/revenge , protect the dollars status or to get resources (including human labor) cheaply- this helped us increase our living standards. This of course also fuels our MIC and has helped enable it to build 800+ bases/posts around the world. In return for the tangible products we would pay these countries, who give us stuff, US dollars backed by nothing but rules and regulations on what you can do with the US money. Many countries have seen through that now and are more keen to protect their own interests by building up their own military to protect their economy. The down side to the above is we can't get resources as easily as before and must go through other countries rules.

[@whiteblue3576]

Well said. Although, the west can still get resources by using a new play book and showing more creativity. For example, China would give out loans to countries, knowing these countries would likely not be able to pay back. They gave out the loans and waited for the default. Once that came, they helped the countries solve the problem by taking over their natural resources. The countries seeking loans were fully aware of their strategies and still willingly continued to burrow. That is creativity on the part of China. The West tends to use military action to achieve these sort of goals.

[@KrazeDiamond]

@@whiteblue3576 "China Debt Trap" is a throughly debunked myth. African countries owe Western countries through IMF way more money at much higher rates. China never took over any mines, every single mine in Africa that China is mining is done through lease contacts split in 6:4 that includes skill workforce training & tech transfers; while the mines that Western countries have are 100% owned by them and not the African countries. Not only that, every African country works with China received tangible assets, real infrastructures that actually benefitted the common African people.

[@piuthemagicman]

the whole comment section buzzing with wumaos, daaamn 😄

[@kingwing3203]

The U.S. trade sanctions have turned the U.S. dollar into useless paper, because the U.S. dollar cannot buy what you need. The mainland reunified Taiwan Province not because of chips, but because Taiwan Province is China's inherent territory. Huawei was banned not because of the eavesdropping backdoor, but because there is no eavesdropping backdoor, which means that the United States cannot use Huawei equipment to eavesdrop on telecommunications communications.

[@madoxxxx06]

As Africans, if we are made to choose a camp we will go with China for a simple reason, China invests in our economy/infrastructure, and its leaders make it a priority to visit the continent and build relationships with us. Compare that to the US which lectures us while its industries and politician ignore us. When five African presidents went to Libya to prevent the removal of Gaddafi, the US told them to go back home or they will be shot down, the sheer disrespect and the consequences of killing Gaddafi turned so many Africans against the US, but US elites don't think they need to consult or respect African leaders. Turks, Russians, Arabs, Indians, Asians, and many more are all investing and building relationships with Africa, its sad to see America squandering its soft power and influence in Africa by sheer neglect and disrespect.

[@pelayocf4558]

It would be better if you read the explanation of experts like Ray Dalio of the rise of China instead of reflecting the opinions of the Second Cold War newsganda you read about China. The war is also psychological, about propaganda, not only economical. If you don't believe me you would rather see the Psychological Operations promotional video of the US govt in KZbin

[@IntrepidHomoludens]

Sorry, man, but Ray Dalio is generally unreliable. Instead I recommend Peter Zeihan and George Friedman. None of them are perfect but at least Peter and George do analyses NOT based on whether they have investments in China. Note, Ray had just recently pulled all his stocks in Alibaba LOL

[@tedrees5989]

And now China is shipping drones to Russia, way more than are being shipped to Ukraine.

[@kevinescherle]

How the hell does this channel not have millions of subs already?? Absolutely amazing informative stuff. Thanks guys!❤

[@Awkd]

Because millions of people don't care about this kinda information

[@eavyeavy2864]

Asia is outside EU juridiction. Keep your imperialist hand away.

[@carlosc8329]

Ok ok, you got me. I'll subscribe.

[@halo-halo9244]

Coz millions or billions of people are only into stupid TicTok doing stupid things for their 15 second of stupid fame. 😅

[@condorX2]

That's because they're nut anti China enough. To answer your question. “In two generations, China has built 500 entire cities from scratch, moved the majority of their huge population from poverty to the middle class and mostly cornered the market in 5g and pharmaceuticals,” he said. “In China alone, they have 40,000 kilometers of high-speed rail. America has… none. Our fastest train is the tram that goes around the zoo.” -Bill Maher

[@emmawang1999]

Most of the Americans are very ignorant about China's science and technology. They still believe that they can deal with China from the position of strength. If there is a full blow-out war between China and the USA over technology, the USA will lose. China has 1.4 billion people. Each year China produces around 10 million college graduates. China will never lack talents. The USA must rely on attracting foreign talents to stay competitive. But America has become less and less attractive to foreign-born scientists and engineers. On the other hand, China has attracted a lot of top talents from Japan, Vietnam, and many eastern European countries. America is fundamentally a racist country. Non-Anglo-Jacson races are never fully embraced. Tech war is essentially a war over talents.

[@skullteria]

Hi, John! Big fan! One Question: How much of your video production and editing are you doing yourself and what exactly do you outsource and in which ways from your early beginning on yt to your procedures nowadays? in love, ur stan ur fan

[@JohnCooganPlus]

Hey, my team has grown slowly over the past year. Started with a single video editor, but now I have a few people working on various parts of the process. Thumbnail design was really really important to find someone great because that has a huge impact on video performance.

[@mickyusuf9778]

​@@JohnCooganPlusyour prediction was absolutely genius 😂😂😂

[@AZ-zk6fr]

In the past, many American politicians advocated dealing with China, but completely ignored China's unfair trade practices with the United States Taiwan has been watching from the sidelines, and has been very anxious. Fortunately, the United States is finally sober now

[@davidnixon7438]

Turn off the background music.

[@ayushgupta4376]

I was literally stuck at the moment when u used the analogy of Apple that how it refused to grant acces to police to a criminal's phone. Apple can't do such in India if police asked it to unlock a criminal's phone as our law restricts freedom heavily in favour of national interest.

[@batboylives]

Nothing is hidden from them anymore, second you type it. Restrictions on shit they already have and act like they cant access it.

[@Western_Decline]

Gawd, this video was informative but so unbelievably pro-US biased. It's like he took every talking point from US propaganda, clearly never heard the other side, and operated as an obedient mouthpiece of the State Department. I expected more to be honest. The US is behaving very similar to how they treated Japan in the 80's. At least the US is consistent in its barbarism. When it can't compete, it tries to leverage illegal means to win: coercion of allies under national security pretext.

[@vegamoonlight]

Agree. He seems to have received something from Biden's anti-China package. I even laughed beginning from the vid title. Did the US really kill China technology? Even Gates has concerns that Huawei is rising again.

[@NEAAFFAIRS]

Totally similar playbook with the Japanese. The world is slowly shifting to isolate American hegemony. BRICS is a start. Next, alternate to SWIFT?, then digital international reserved currency backed by gold. The Japanese ultimately failed because they were isolated & didn't find alliance. China learnt this lesson and has now found many alliances. I won't be surprised if countries in Africa move to BRICS since Westerners tends to be Colonist and Exploiters. I believe they are the next generation Factory of the world and China is sowing those seeds. Let me know what you think. Hope to have a productive discussion

[@condorX2]

👍 Completely agree with your statement at the end of your program. It is sad to see a once great nation using bullying tactics to keep China down instead of trying to get ahead themselves. These are the tactics of losers, not of winners. -John Zoetebier New video is up. It's call. One step closer to EUV China achieves a chip breakthrough in this way!

[@wanyijiang4940]

The difference is that Toshiba plead guilty and paid a fine but Huawei does not and Meng Wanzhou returned to China about 3 years after her arrest in Canada.

[@tomjohnson1110]

This didn't age well.

[@metinukvisa]

8 months passed since your video. How is China doing now?

[@GrimDoesMineCraft]

Chinese exports of Diodes and Semiconductors has fallen sharply since March 2023, so perhaps it has begun

[@gustavinus]

TSMC is building a fab in the US. But even with the proper supply chain and all the money in the world, it is estimated that it can take up to a decade for a 5nm fab to be operational. TSMC is trying to make it faster (probably with help from the US government). They are building in Arizona and expect to have 5nm in 2024 and 3nm by 2026. I think they started building it in 2020, but I am not sure. More than US$ 40 Billion invested there. And now we have reached a point where there are so few atoms on each transistor that we can't shrink it anymore, unless we change for a semiconductor material with smaller atoms. This means the 5nm and 3nm fabs will have a crazy long lifespan to pop chips.

[@mattmccaughen8082]

Alien tech for sure it's INSANE how complex chips are

[@joshuaprime2042]

It's not "insane" it's the result of studying science

[@mattmccaughen8082]

@@joshuaprime2042 sarcasam.doesnt get past u at all does it 🙋

[@kingwing3203]

The U.S. trade sanctions have turned the U.S. dollar into useless paper, because the U.S. dollar cannot buy what you need. The mainland reunified Taiwan Province not because of chips, but because Taiwan Province is China's inherent territory. Huawei was banned not because of the eavesdropping backdoor, but because there is no eavesdropping backdoor, which means that the United States cannot use Huawei equipment to eavesdrop on telecommunications communications.

[@Dogbertforpresident]

One of the most professional videos I've seen in quite a while.

[@RyukoMeows]

This video aged poorly, just like the US empire.

[@DrivinginNewYorkCityNYC]

So, this is the $1.6 billion USA propaganda

[@monour2840]

Every time some westeren person speaks about terr ... orism he/she links it to Islam, I thought you're better than this, John.

[@marcos-ll2yr]

''Jon Huntsman, a former U.S. ambassador to China, said that Americans are generally uninformed about how far China is ahead of the United States in some technologies. Now the vice chairperson of Ford Motor Company, Huntsman said that in the development of electric vehicles, for example, China is at least five years ahead of the U.S.''- September 17, 2022

[@halitamoldova9439]

Great video. you've reminded me of what someone once said ❤ If future generations are to remember us more with gratitude than sorrow, we must achieve more than just the miracles of technology. We must also leave them a glimpse of the world as it was created, not just as it looked when we got through with it.

[@charlottemia8721]

Innovation is the outcome of a habit, not a random act.

[@charlottemia8721]

Tech Tech!!!!

[@georgewilliams257]

@@charlottemia8721 Tech is nice but have been investing in crypto, stock and real estate

[@felipedennis6]

We are in the tech world, crypto, and real estate now

[@liammichael8504]

@@felipedennis6 Exactly, either you're doing tech, trading crypto or you're a realtor

[@georgekaradov1274]

Interesting why not mention that China is outspending the US in fundamental research in chip technology. They lead in photons chip research...

[@chrisvig123]

And yet they seem to have very little technology other then what they steal from others

[@georgekaradov1274]

@@chrisvig123 soooo, who did they steal the first operational maglev train line in the world from? Or their ability to build bullet train lines with such speed?

[@d.o.g573]

You can spend as much as you want - some things can’t be copied Teaches you a lesson in IP once you have engineered it lol

[@georgekaradov1274]

@@d.o.g573 China is outputting the US in patents by considerable margins nowadays. Wonder why.

[@Doggieman1111]

We would appreciate it if you wouldn't put all caps in the words in your title. A bit too clickbaity

[@johnpye-d2n]

The whole title is clickbait. He says China will create their own chips in the video. And a year later, they already have.

[@marvinhare]

as soon as china learns how to make their own chips good by american

[@nabie981]

Yeah, “America ‘helped China’ all out of good heart and China is doing this”. You aren’t so bright, or very bias.

[@guens01]

Tell him.

[@deathdoor]

Just temporarily right? China is working hard to become architecture and fab independent, they'll just put higher priority to these efforts. Than what can murrica do? The same? War? Why can't murrica just compete like everyone else?

[@mm-zn5hh]

Holy shashimi, this video is very compact, very nicely done. I can see top of the line research work put into this. I didn't even notice that 20 minutes have passed watching this.. Great job John..

[@JohnCooganPlus]

amazing to hear that. thanks a lot!

[@drmadjdsadjadi]

I really wish that people would stop saying that American citizens working in China had to choose between losing their jobs and losing their citizenship. This is simply NOT TRUE. Instead they had to choose between losing their jobs and losing their freedom since they could be arrested. This is, of course, still a big deal but the US is not threatening to take away citizenship. Instead these individuals are voluntarily relinquishing US citizenship to avoid the possibility of US prosecution but make no mistake about it, the US is NOT threatening to revoke citizenship, these individuals are voluntarily relinquishing citizenship.

[@MrFastFarmer]

Huawea already has better chips than the over-hyped Nvidia. American has become a global joke.

[@johnvu2690]

Awesome video John!!! Your videos are so informative and encompasing. Keep up the good work!!!

[@JohnCooganPlus]

thanks a lot! appreciate that!

[@marktrain9498]

There are so many misconceptions in this video, it's hard to know where to start. The cost of new semiconductor fab is $20 billion. Startup companies don't build them -- only a handful of giant enterprises can afford to be in this game, and fewer every day. Also, "Intel" is named for integrated circuits, not the integration of design and manufacturing -- which unlike today was normal in the 60s and 70s. Also, TSMC doesn't do the circuit design, which still takes place mostly in the US and Europe. I could go on...

[@treeinafield5022]

Everything you typed was already said in the video itself.

[@hippiealloway5336]

MAKE THEM IT JAPAN WHEN THEY MAKE SOMETHING IT WORK A REAL GOOD I LIKE TO STUFF FROM THEM 😊

[@kokwahcheah1357]

LOOKING AT THE MISERABLE STATE USA IS IN TODAY & THE THRIVING CHINESE ECONOMY TODAY, THIS ANALYSIS IS QUESTIONABLE..🤣

[@paul-martintandetzki731]

This video didn't age well...... China didn't back down from the sanctions and still advancing fast. While the chip sellers are losing a big market.

[@B21_raider]

China can’t even make 14nm chips 😂 Chinese tech is a myth

[@paul-martintandetzki731]

@@B21_raider one simple Google search and you'll see that china already starting to mass produce 14nm chips by huwei. It's just a matter of time till they get smaller.

[@dedskin1]

Those backdoors you speak of all of USA tech has it , they even had a body of hackers trying to brake it , and issue patches for the flaws found , its the Update wars , that consumers dont like , but this all depends up on USA tech constantly being changed , improved , updated before China can hack it . But this is expensive .

[@kingwing3203]

The U.S. trade sanctions have turned the U.S. dollar into useless paper, because the U.S. dollar cannot buy what you need. The mainland reunified Taiwan Province not because of chips, but because Taiwan Province is China's inherent territory. Huawei was banned not because of the eavesdropping backdoor, but because there is no eavesdropping backdoor, which means that the United States cannot use Huawei equipment to eavesdrop on telecommunications communications.

[@HSBSkier]

So while we are reshoring our manufacturing from China, including IP and process excellence we gave them in exchange for less expensive costs, we do the same with our services to India. Doesn’t matter the nature or criticality of the service -finance, IT, managed svcs, professional,etc. …our U.S. companies continue to sell out the United States and its citizens…

[@janicewolk6492]

Would that life were so simple.

[@yiping7193]

I think its a good thing, to force China and other nations to get away from US tech as will stimulate innovation and increase competition. Hopefully, we see Graphene chips and will upend the whole industry.

[@d.o.g573]

Hello Mr. Wumao

[@gurunext]

America also killed YT Rewind, but I'm bringing it back for 2022 👍 Maybe you'll even find yourself there next year

[@J0hnC00gan]

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[@franklinmayoyo]

"When they're fighting you, know you're already on the top" Wamlambez na wamnyonyez proverb.

[@robertroberto4749]

China will never solve problem of EUV litography. It takes billions of men hour of R&D to produce such a complicated machine. They tried to pump tens of billions USD to companies that promissed China litography process, but all FAILED!

[@michaelb247]

And they said the Titanic could never sink. I canot understand what tjhe USA is frightened of, but there's one thing for sure, when you have to fall back on blocking and sanctioning then it appears you're clean out of ideas. China is a country that came from a rural backwater that was considered a joke, it experienced a famine where over 25 million died of starvation, to being the second biggest economy in the world which today had lifted over 650 million and counting out of poverty. In a fraction of the time it took the Industrial Revolution to develop the West. And you write them off? A top Republican senator said recentyly only the USA has the wherewithall and ability to rule the world and thus by default should rule the world. Oh dear.......seems he never heard the ancient wisdom...."Pride comes before a fall"

[@donscott2681]

Silicon lithography has almost reached it's limits. A silicon molecule is about .5 nanometers, so 2nm lithography may be the end. Then, we'll move on to other technologies, such as photonic chips and quantum computing. It would behoove China to try to leapfrog the West and just forget about low-nanometer chips. Use silicon for the easy stuff, such as toaster chips, and use photonic chips for phones, supercomputing, etc.

[@rubbles2206]

The gate pitch of 5nm devices are still 20-30nm depending on implementation. Photonic devices are less scalable, you need Terahertz waveguides, which requires silicon lithography; photonics will not have higher MT/mm than CMOS, it will compensate in modulation frequency and has some very novel integrations with quantum computing. QC is not going to be an alternative to traditional computing. There's a lot of ways to continue to scale Si, such as CNT gates (IBM pioneered the

[@leihtory7423]

USA would simply delay the technology. China leap frog 5g and 6g. USA simply did not implement 5g regardless of how it would affect the economy and technology. Hence US problems with self driving car tech.

[@oneito947]

i think the massive actions by the us on china is a huge mistake, this will actually backfire serverly on the us. china plays the long game, while the us focuses on the short droves. china will build its own capacity, and since they already have the tech talent, they can do away with the us completely. plus getting to geo politics, remember the petrodollar, there is something cooking with saudi arabia and the BRICS, and this will hit the us where it hurts the most. they will wonder, between fighting china, figthing rusia and maintaining the petrodollar, they will be confused.

[@HTeo-og1lg]

"Thucydides Trap". The first step of the incumbent power is to believe, then smear and paint, the rising power to be the hegemon intent on dethroning the Accuser, who has been the sole hegemon.

[@bikepacker9850]

If China becomes the most powerful country in the world, the best we can hope for is that they treat us as good as they do their own citizens. Not something to look forward to.

[@Adeniyi33_]

One of the most informative and educational channels on KZbin…i love your Videos man

[@ce9916]

So glad they found your channel, this has got to be the best produced many documentaries ive ever seen

[@michaelb247]

It's not that difficult to come acrtoss SInophobic propaganda here

[@AngelRivera-wp9bg]

Boy was you wrong😢

[@72dew]

Is there any proof of Huawei 5G backdoors, I've only heard of allegations. As far as I'm aware, it's only a concern and not an actual threat.

[@khalidalali186]

Along with their most recent breakthroughs in Nuclear Fusion. I’m starting to think that America is long away from any stagnation, let alone decline, as many have been saying, including tons of American public intellectuals.

[@natgenesis5038]

as a software engineer, I love this video ,keep it up bro

[@kryts27]

This report is already dated. Many Western, Japanese, South Korean and Taiwanese high tech companies have left China or in the process of leaving. Unemployment in China is catastrophic and businesses are collaping everywhere. China needs the world much more than the world needs China.

[@-paul]

Yet another well-produced video that encapsulates digestible content. Thanks!

[@marlamewton3603]

ASML is the only company in the world that owns the technology and makes the machinery to make physical chips out of silicon wafers. Chipmakers like TSMC, NVIDIA and Intel won't be able to make the chips they do without ASML's EUV technology.

[@errolwallace3069]

Let we all sit back and watch China struck back in other words throwback

[@FaiFaiSai]

I feel guilty watching this in-depth documentary for free. Great content tho.

[@tanjim4487]

Hold their huawei mate 60 or whatever LMAO