America’s China Strategy, With Rush Doshi

[@organizer14]

US should focus on domestic problems and prioritize needs of Americans not foreign affairs.

[@JasonMarchusi]

Wumao

[@michaeljiang960]

"America’s lack of China Strategy", fixed the title for you.

[@photo3338]

I think that it's more of a lack of a consistent strategy. The strategy changed so much during the Trump years. That's not how things were done during the Cold War. I think that we haven't really had a coherent strategy since Xi Jin Ping took power. We had the "Pivot to Asia" that was more of an empty promise. I think that we've really pivoted to Asia during the last 4 years. Was it too little too late? A greater concern is what will happen next year when we have a new president?

[@Western_Decline]

The Pivot to Israel

[@tocreatee3585]

there is. more trade more money for bankers thats the strategy. .

[@JasonMarchusi]

wumao again

[@waichui2988]

Power is a relative game. Your own condition at home is a very important part of the power dynamics. You talk about Chinese demographics. How about domestic problems undermining American power? Culture wars? Increasing inequality and decreasing trust in important institutions? What good does it do you for China to peak when the United States falls off a cliff?

[@JasonMarchusi]

wuuuumaaaao

[@igolfer]

The Taiwan issue is the last piece of colonialism and will be resolved in due course. It is time that Western imperialism and colonialism finally come to an end. That’s why politicians in the West are hysterical and delusional and desperate to stop the rise of China. The so called “coming collapse of China”is, in reality, the coming collapse of imperialism and colonialism, or the collapse of global hegemony. For the last 500 hundred years before the beginning of the collapse of colonialism in the 1950s, Europe had been colonizing the rest of the world, mainly for its endless resources and cheap labor to feed its own economic growth. The West had been fighting wars among themselves for colonies and control of raw materials and energy. Ever since the end of the WW2, independence movements across the globe had first set free countries in Asia, followed by Latín America, the Middle East and lastly Africa. The West is, now, no longer able to get free resources or labor or land, to support its dominance over developing countries, or the global South in general. Under these circumstances, Europe, or the West including Japan, is losing its own economic independence; they are relying heavily or existentially on the support of the U.S. In the meantime, on the other hand, the global South with the cooperation among the BRICS COUNTRIES like China, Russia, Brazil, South Africa and so on, are focusing on their own economic growth and social development. The new world order is emerging with multipolarity and international democracy for shared prosperity. The West is feeling the heat and threat of its hegemonic collapse. That’s why they are following the marching order of the U.S., in its proxy war in Ukraine against Russia. The European countries have become totally dependent on the U.S. for its resources and strength. Without their old colonies, they submit themselves now completely to the hegemony of the U.S. However, with the united front between China and Russia, the global south is awakening to a new world order. They see their hope and prosperity in China’s BRI as well as the strategies of the BRICKS. That’s why the West can not defeat Russia in Ukraine because it doesn’t have the unlimited resources it used to enjoy with their colonies gone forever. The bottom line is how can the West or NATO expect to beat the united front between Russia and China in the long run without getting into a nuclear Armhcsageddon?! It is a self-indulgent delusion that the West under the coercion of the United States would be able somehow to stop or contain the rise of China with so-called small yard with high fences. It is a self defeating hypothesis. The U.S. and China should be partners and friends instead of enemies or competitors, for the benefits of the humanity and for a better world for all.

[@NorCalMoDo]

This guest talking "we tell you how and why we are putting all the sanctions against you" Be understandable, and supportive.

[@organizer14]

Prof. Jeffrey Sachs has the best foreign policy re China and for world peace.

[@CautionCU]

Well said

[@netizencapet]

China didn't support the invasion of Ukraine, has sent aid to Ukraine, has proposed a peace plan, has refused to sell arms to Russia, has cut down on other exports to avoid secondary sanctions.

[@JIANGTG]

1. America's China strategy is basically short-term and failure-prone tactics. 2. U.S. is not keen to implement long-term foreign policies , regardless of China or other countries , because it wants the " immediate gains " , but it ends up with " heavy losses ". One typical example is its view on Africa. U.S. looks down on African countries and thus has no interest to deal with them. When U.S. sees China's influence on Africa , it feels uncomfortable and vents its anger. 3. China strongly upholds its basic foreign policies based on Confucianism , including mutual respect , mutual prosperity , peaceful coexistence , etc.

[@bobmorane4926]

It always comes back to the sane issues that hv alienated 2/3 of the world against Murica. Condescendence , lack of vision , lack of alternative to the Chinese initiatives , lack of follow throughs. China has already surrounded the West bcos of their weaknesses which their blinding arrogance prevent them from seeing. The West is a dead man walking already and they don't know as they keep spewing their propaganda which the Gaza war has exposed the propaganda machine.

[@JasonMarchusi]

silence wumao

[@colinadevivero]

Fair and balanced analysis

[@NorCalMoDo]

Unilateral. No balance

[@JasonMarchusi]

@@NorCalMoDo not at all, wumao

[@453chopinetudeandbachprelu7]

Sadly, this discussion is based on one fatal assumption: that China’s world view is the same as western

[@JasonMarchusi]

wumao silence

[@netizencapet]

US should eliminate tarrifs on anything not widely produced in the US: businesses, workers & consumers lose out if we refuse affordable essential inputs to power our own productivity.

[@bubblebobble9654]

Most kinds of guardrails are inherently biased towards the status quo. China is (presumably) the up and coming power and US represents the "reigning global hegemony" in air quotes;) that explains the resistance of China for guardrails in many cases, I think.

[@姜磊-n5h]

"great changes unseen in centuries" means the collapse of colonial world order

[@Antiwumao]

Haha, yes look at big bad Russa, which was meant to be the start of that new world order. Its now been reverse invaded and lost land for the first time since WW2 due to China and Russia deluding themselves after russia declared an illegal war of aggression against Ukraine, with chinas instructions to commit war crimes. Now Ukraine is turning it around and Putin and Xi have no clothes

[@CautionCU]

The colonial world order has been dead since Britain left India and France left Indochina.

[@姜磊-n5h]

@@CautionCU no it's alive and well. Ever heard of neo colonialism? Of course some never remember such phrases even upon hearing Bangladesh PM ousted after refusing to let US take one of their island and turn it into military base.

[@justwanderin847]

CFR is Not Your Friend

[@jameschu512]

Your discussion is a waste of time if you are not talking the truth instead of half lies and twisted facts. Nor wonder if your policy is not working. I think you reflect the reality, solution will emerge.

[@Nik-ik8mv]

Untill you keep feeding the tiger by providing China with US/Western technology, markets, and capital, the problem will only grow. US can win against China but that requires serious across the board economic decoupling. Once you stop feeding the toger, it will not grow. That's the moneyshot in China strategy. Once you economically decouple from China, you can design all kind of other domains sttategies - militarily, politically, diplomatically, culturally etc. but not cutting economic links with China, bearing the costs of that decoupling (basically US companies' loss pf Chinese market), and mitigating those costs (more incentives in R&D and manufacturing at home, opening allied and third country markets, less regulation, workforce and STEM education building, infrastructure building, and export incentives) and continuing on the current path of feeding the Chinese tiger via providing unfettered access to US technology, markets, and capital will only compound the problem and eventually it will become unmanageable.

[@paytonmcdermott9111]

Who is this propaganda for? CFR is for journalists and politicians but why bother preaching to the quire? I just don't get why anyone would take the time to put out such a rejection of reality when the media and politicians are already so far off the rails. Are you guys working on getting a new grant program off the ground or something? EDIT: One guy just said Xi lied about not militarizing the south China sea and I almost died of asphyxiation from laughing so hard. You guys may not tell the truth but you sure tell some entertaining jokes 😂

[@bobmorane4926]

Let's put it this way. Both sides lie heavily and it's about managing interests and finding a balance for existential co existence. Xi Jing Ping might be lying abt SCS, but who's lying abt soldiers on the ground in Taiwan ? Would Murica accept that China is sending special advisors to Oknawans to kick the Us Military base out of Okinawa ? The Okinawans themselves cannot stand the presence of Muricans there.

[@dancerinmaya6813]

and it's such a dumb effort too...Re not militarizing the South China Sea, Kishore Mahbubani said in this "Has China Won?" that Ambassador Roy told him that Xi offered to Obama that both China and the US demilitarize in the South China Sea, but Obama refused. Roy considers this a grave mistake on the part of the US.

[@yanghailun]

why Indian guys became expert on China. Amazing, the Chinese in America must be somnambulent.

[@xijiangyu644]

seem to me most of the Chinese China experts are ultra hawkish on China, which is reasonable consider complementing China might bring their loyalty into question, which probably structurally make them pretty biased which aren't great if you want fair analysis.

[@jennylee685]

@@xijiangyu644Exactly, even their comments are as though U.S. should have the say in what China should or should not do. This double standard, hegemonic & American exceptionalism mindset is incredible! It’s like your family (the U.S.) within a neighborhood or a village (the world) telling other families (especially China in this case)your way is the only way & all families in your neighborhood must all follow your standards or rules, otherwise these other families are belligerent & are the outcast! It’s simply ridiculous & so arrogant!

[@JasonMarchusi]

@@jennylee685 he's american, not indian. but a wumao like you wouldn't understand

[@fajarliong]

Discussion without meat, just chit chat

[@姜磊-n5h]

So ironic if you take opposite meaning of each word the video suddenly start to make sense.

[@JasonMarchusi]

silence wumao