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Machine Thinking

Machine Thinking

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@TheJttv
@TheJttv 6 жыл бұрын
With content this good this channel is gonna explode soon.
@4n2earth22
@4n2earth22 6 жыл бұрын
Boom. Another sub. yer rite awn, Jttv.
@DasButterBoat
@DasButterBoat 6 жыл бұрын
I concur, wholeheartedly. Well done!
@Max_Marz
@Max_Marz 6 жыл бұрын
You're done bud. Hope you're ready for the responsibility of keeping this stuff coming.
@DasButterBoat
@DasButterBoat 6 жыл бұрын
Max- lol, he knows not what he has done! We must have fresh content on tap with weekly updates; each more powerful and mind expanding than the last! Field trips, expensive props & animation! A Christmas special might be nice....can I get an official Machine Thinking mug? ;)
@calholli
@calholli 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sold
@superiormusic
@superiormusic 4 жыл бұрын
The quality of "amateur" documentaries like this easily rivals most stuff on TV these days
@mariusschubert4737
@mariusschubert4737 4 жыл бұрын
Dead right mate!
@ratheonhudson3311
@ratheonhudson3311 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. The dialogue is clean, well researched, and no stumbling or 'um' added.
@laifmatsuk6057
@laifmatsuk6057 4 жыл бұрын
A knowledgeable speaker is so much more engaging than scripted narration
@Faraonqa
@Faraonqa 4 жыл бұрын
not rival, they are faaar superior
@aprilkoyyen7720
@aprilkoyyen7720 4 жыл бұрын
I would suggest that a lot of that is probably because they're not being required to be at least x amount of time
@c7042
@c7042 5 жыл бұрын
Back in the 60's Bonney Forge in Oxford, Ne had the privilege of making the swivel engine mounts for the descent stage of the Lunar Excursion Module for Apollo. The reason I know this was I used to go there every 3 months and certify their instrumentation using standards traceable to NBS. Their drop forge hammer would make everyone jump every time it fired. Mr. Charles Lewis who was the manager said that only a very small percentage of the mounts they made for Grumman passed their QC but Grumman never complained because no one else could make even one mount that passed. As you can imagine, they were very proud of their contribution in getting a man to the moon. 24 of their mounts are on the moon today. Because of my age, I wanted to get this historical information on the internet or it would be lost.
@supersportimpalass
@supersportimpalass 4 жыл бұрын
I found the video and your comment very interesting. Thank you!
@jakubdziatkowski9947
@jakubdziatkowski9947 4 жыл бұрын
@@c7042 you better write it down and stufg
@deltavee2
@deltavee2 4 жыл бұрын
c7042 And thank you for posting this. The internet grows better and better as more and more information that could be lost to the world is added. Every bit and byte added gives us reference to the billions of things, events and stories that make us what we are today and not only that, the net possesses the capability to help us link, compare, plan and move forward. Your observation and information will now be preserved forever. The internet never forgets and your contribution may well start or be a part of something decades or millennia from now. This is much appreciated by many many more than myself.
@hulado
@hulado 4 жыл бұрын
im glad you told us. thanks. ive had the opportunity to hear/feel/witness some large drop forges. they are awesome.
@corysturgis6660
@corysturgis6660 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. That's amazing and beautiful. So many things like this will be sealed from younger generation s unless they were privileged to the information from close friends and family. Thank you so much for sharing. Happy new year
@hawk5183
@hawk5183 5 жыл бұрын
When I was a young engineer I took an interview, and was offered a job, at that Cleveland plant where that 50,000 ton press operates. Saw it in operation. It was forging the landing gear struts for the 747 in the early 1970s. The metal looked like play dough being squeezed by that press.
@chrishayes5755
@chrishayes5755 5 жыл бұрын
what's the benefits of pressing vs some kind of plasma extrusion or laser sintering system? it seems pressing should be outdated by now?
@epistte
@epistte 5 жыл бұрын
Where in Cleveland is the press?
@johnbattista9519
@johnbattista9519 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Hayes , the size of the parts it can handle. Try those other processes on huge stuff and see if you get the same results I would imagine.
@darthvader5300
@darthvader5300 5 жыл бұрын
Pressing improves the metallurgical properties of any metallurgical product much further and besides it follows a time-tested and time-proven wisdom "IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT!" and "JUST BECAUSE IT'S NEW DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN IT IS BETTER".
@billykersh7061
@billykersh7061 4 жыл бұрын
The Curious Mind Your excitement and enthusiasm for this technology is touching. I hope you get to see this press in action some day. If I had the financial means I would see to it that you could. This country was built on the dreams, and wonder, of people like yourself. I wish you well.
@nmd4332
@nmd4332 3 жыл бұрын
I work for the same company which owns and operates the 50, and I had no idea the amazing history and engineering behind it. Thanks for sharing this, seriously. I am adding a plant tour of that press to the bucket list!
@machinethinking
@machinethinking 3 жыл бұрын
I had the impression that public access to these was extremely rare given the sensitive work they do? At least the one in Cleveland. Please write to me via the contact page on my website if indeed public access is possible! machinethinking.co/contact
@cockssmithin2688
@cockssmithin2688 Жыл бұрын
​@@machinethinkingno as long as you aren't a criminal they hire anyone lol, I work at the Fontana location
@mastersaxmb
@mastersaxmb 5 жыл бұрын
12:26 "there wasn't the need" or should I say "It wasn't a pressing matter" ...........and I'm out
@djslothario
@djslothario 5 жыл бұрын
I'd be hard pressed to come up with a better pun
@YoungHeartedSoul
@YoungHeartedSoul 4 жыл бұрын
All these answers are DEpressing me
@TheShire26
@TheShire26 4 жыл бұрын
They ironed out the details on this and probably found they could squeeze out anything we need.
@OldManMilligram
@OldManMilligram 4 жыл бұрын
Just imagine the Pressure they face must have had alot of pressure and man the press on the project
@massiveheadwoundharry6833
@massiveheadwoundharry6833 4 жыл бұрын
A crushing defeat for those who wanted bigger presses.
@phillycheesetake
@phillycheesetake 6 жыл бұрын
As a mechanical engineer, this channel is pure bliss. Also if you could marry my sister that would be great. You don't have to spend much time with her, we could just chill.
@barryo9065
@barryo9065 6 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@thereaction18
@thereaction18 6 жыл бұрын
Netflix and chill?
@aircates
@aircates 6 жыл бұрын
The Reaction - No, watching "How it was made" and chill
@jayasuriyas2604
@jayasuriyas2604 6 жыл бұрын
Haha
@peakhead7087
@peakhead7087 5 жыл бұрын
What? no need to marry your sister though you can be friends and can talk about machine too.
@ericchandler90
@ericchandler90 6 жыл бұрын
This is like Modern Marvels, only 1000 times better.
@Nacalal
@Nacalal 4 жыл бұрын
10:12 "55 tons for just the nut!" I know how that feels
@billparker244
@billparker244 4 жыл бұрын
She's a big girl, eh? My sympathies, sir.
@mickblock
@mickblock 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. You sound like a big nut. 😁👍
@daveshaw9344
@daveshaw9344 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta slay a few dragons before you get to the princess
@jamesarmstrong-jones5082
@jamesarmstrong-jones5082 4 жыл бұрын
@@billparker244 nah bro. She just toight
@VidarrKerr
@VidarrKerr 4 жыл бұрын
Adds a whole new dimension to "Bustin a Nut".
@CV-ly6ct
@CV-ly6ct 5 жыл бұрын
About 7 years ago, Alcoa in Cleveland, spent $100m to rebuild their Mesta 50 ton press due to cracks. The whole plant's operation hinged on that project.
@NossyDrelich
@NossyDrelich 5 жыл бұрын
It was a pressing matter...
@ΑΡΗΣΚΟΡΝΑΡΑΚΗΣ
@ΑΡΗΣΚΟΡΝΑΡΑΚΗΣ 5 жыл бұрын
@@NossyDrelich well played sir...
@donjones4719
@donjones4719 5 жыл бұрын
When I saw that in the video, I wondered what it cost. Also wondered what the aerospace industry did for part while it was under repair. Sourced from the other 50 ton press, I guess, but that must have been overbooked. Bet the military and the aerospace companies were very nervous.
@Daydreaminginmono
@Daydreaminginmono 5 жыл бұрын
I imagine that work was completed to a super fine schedule. I know at least where i work, the machines i operate must be running all the time to maintain a positive cost ratio. Wonder how much cash they were losing as that press sat dormant
@liquidsleepgames3661
@liquidsleepgames3661 4 жыл бұрын
@@NossyDrelich pressing your luck there pal
@DarthErdmaennchen23
@DarthErdmaennchen23 5 жыл бұрын
It took 60 years to form stress cracks? WTF, that's damn impressing!
@Mr.DMZ.
@Mr.DMZ. 5 жыл бұрын
Right! The freaking sidewalk gets stress cracks 30 days after being complete.
@Rx7man
@Rx7man 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.DMZ. But take a look at the people walking it, OMG!
@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr 4 жыл бұрын
Impressing... I see what you did there. Very nice! 👏👏
@nfscsk
@nfscsk 4 жыл бұрын
why are u posing with underwear??. is that any sort of gay thing???. is your dad still alive..🤦😂
@nfscsk
@nfscsk 4 жыл бұрын
@noo dles , public...
@amitavamanna2696
@amitavamanna2696 6 жыл бұрын
I am from India. Not an interesting place by modern standards. I was fond of two USA magazines-Popular Science and Popular Mechanics (father’s library) from childhood days. They taught me great stuffs. I distinctly remember a hydraulic press back then that you ought to include in your video. First picture-splitting a log (dia about 4…5 feet) LENGTHWISE. Second picture-tapping an egg; the new-born CHICK standing on the ram beside the broken egg shells. I have no idea why all that makes me burst in tears. Maybe I loved machines a little too much.
@nemo227
@nemo227 6 жыл бұрын
Amitava Manna, No, you don't love machines too much. You understand and appreciate machinery, the value, the usefulness, the daily benefit we all receive because people had the vision and desire to make something truly useful. Some people get excited over sculpture and paintings and music and that's okay but the watching a lathe, or a power saw, or a crane, or a train engine running . . . that is art too but many people take it for granted and don't see it and understand it in the same way as you and me and the many people who build, repair, and operate machinery.
@duramax78
@duramax78 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve ran brakes from 20ton to 750 ton, I could take a piece of oak, 4”x4” put it in flattening dies and explode that piece of oak, wood is no match for a press.
@doughtymqan
@doughtymqan 6 жыл бұрын
You have understood the true glory of human endeavor and the potential of mans mind.
@88njtrigg88
@88njtrigg88 6 жыл бұрын
Amitava Manna You Sir have passion & appreciation for life, technology & machinery.
@88njtrigg88
@88njtrigg88 6 жыл бұрын
doughtymqan N°1
@ericmarriott5274
@ericmarriott5274 4 жыл бұрын
As a machinist this is amazing i thought my 100 in table was big. Gotta love big machines and the amazing engineers that developed them before cad, is just awe inspiring!!
@MattNeufy
@MattNeufy 5 жыл бұрын
Eyyyy KZbin recommendations working out for the better yet again
@danielmonostori3480
@danielmonostori3480 5 жыл бұрын
When I hear the words Hydraulic and Press together, I now insinctively think of Finland
@brokenacoustic
@brokenacoustic 5 жыл бұрын
"Vat da fak?!"
@raybin6873
@raybin6873 4 жыл бұрын
Dániel Monostori Finland (1 n )
@raybin6873
@raybin6873 4 жыл бұрын
Dániel Monostori OK - my parents were born in Finland - all is good!
@seandalman1958
@seandalman1958 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty good
@Erotified
@Erotified 4 жыл бұрын
And here we go!
@frequentlycynical642
@frequentlycynical642 4 жыл бұрын
What an amazing learning experience! The older I get, I'm 73, the more astounded at the many processes and technologies that make our world today. I had no idea about these presses. And as you say, all this done with slide rules. Thank you!
@erikviking471
@erikviking471 6 жыл бұрын
STUPENDOUS JOB TAKING A COMPLEX TOPIC AND KEEPING IT LIGHT, FUN, INFORMATIVE AND QUICK-PACED!!! You are one of the best justifications for KZbin I've ever seen...
@godfreypoon5148
@godfreypoon5148 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, it was very heavy.
@samvimes1083
@samvimes1083 5 жыл бұрын
I work in mining, I'm surrounded by giant machines all day, it's almost forgettable at this point. But the sheer scale and power in that mesta 50 is insane. Really cool video.
@pooorman-diy1104
@pooorman-diy1104 4 жыл бұрын
if i am the employee ... i will sneak into the press machine at night to make artificial diamond .. lol
@matthewsteinert1002
@matthewsteinert1002 Жыл бұрын
@@pooorman-diy1104good luck they run round the clock 🤣
@Mirinmaru
@Mirinmaru 4 жыл бұрын
I love how you manage to sound exactly like one of those old 40's 50's infomercial presenters. Your voice fits perfectly
@TheDesertRat31
@TheDesertRat31 5 жыл бұрын
8:56 using a wooden form to achieve a final precision tolerance.
@schwig44
@schwig44 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like I learned a lost art form when I was trained on making paper patterns by hand that would be used to make literally every part made from sheet or plate on an industrial fan. Some of them were monsters too, I mean, we had patterns for inlet stands that once you put them together could block out your average suburban home if it wasn't for the giant hole in the center... and we were still doing that shit in 2015
@sparked3113
@sparked3113 3 жыл бұрын
That was an amazing memory, seeing a hydraulic copy milling machine with a wooden form template. As a young toolmaker I made wooden 'masters' and milled out dies for casting sink taps.
@beshkodiak
@beshkodiak 6 жыл бұрын
It has been my greatest reward to have been in the metals trades all my adult life. From being a silversmith and goldsmith, to building tunnel boring machines, and many things in between. I feel a kinship with the people of this metals industry when i see videos like this. Thanks.
@paulk3652
@paulk3652 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! My father worked as a mechanic at Mesta in Homestead Pa for 17 years- he will appreciate this so much!
@ButterBallTheOpossum
@ButterBallTheOpossum 4 жыл бұрын
It's a small world, my Dad has worked at Whemco in West Homestead for 25 years. The Mill beside the waterfront
@stonefitzgerald2398
@stonefitzgerald2398 6 жыл бұрын
"just the N U T"
@skeezixmccat
@skeezixmccat 6 жыл бұрын
Das a fat N U T
@vacuumelite2065
@vacuumelite2065 5 жыл бұрын
If there's two.....that's the Bollox !
@epion660
@epion660 5 жыл бұрын
50 tons of *N U T*
@sparked6886
@sparked6886 4 жыл бұрын
Wow a fantastic storey I havent heard before, almost thrilling for an old engineer. As a young toolmaker in the 1970's we used wooden forms for copy milling, the wood was painted with a hard epoxy coating.
@WestForMiles
@WestForMiles 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how it was possible to get such accuracy from wood. Thanks.
@stevensablan7814
@stevensablan7814 5 жыл бұрын
3:27 you know that dudes ears are getting blown out
@elijahtourtillott7550
@elijahtourtillott7550 4 жыл бұрын
Oh definitely
@elijahtourtillott7550
@elijahtourtillott7550 4 жыл бұрын
@red headed stepchild the guys ears are getting blown out from the echoing bang of the large hammer machine they didnt have earplugs back then
@Argonak1
@Argonak1 4 жыл бұрын
red headed stepchild Work in a steel factory without earplugs, you'll leave with ringing ears for the rest of the day.
@TheTNTmaster808
@TheTNTmaster808 4 жыл бұрын
Umm guys I think red headed stepchild is making a joke about the fact that you would have hearing loss
@SuperOtter
@SuperOtter 4 жыл бұрын
@@Argonak1 not necessarily
@tea4223
@tea4223 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a commentator that could be easily understood.... and no loud background music. 👍
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 6 жыл бұрын
My father worked at Mesta Machine (West Homestead, PA) . They built the machines that built the steel mills that made Pittsburgh, PA "The Steel City"! Good to see Mesta get it's due!
@nemo227
@nemo227 5 жыл бұрын
James Slick -- Pennsylvania and Ohio had many, many steel mills at one time.
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 5 жыл бұрын
@@nemo227 Yep! and Mesta built 'em!
@nemo227
@nemo227 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesslick4790 We were almost neighbors. My hometown was Clairton, PA or, as one of the actors in "The Deer Hunter" called it, "the armpit of western Pennsylvania". I read it somewhere, don't know if the actor actually said that . . . but I wouldn't argue with the remark. A lot of those towns along the rivers were built on hard work and sweat . . . steel mills, coal mines . . . somebody always has to do the hard physical work. We left for California around 1942 and I was about 4 or 5 yrs. old. My parents did the right thing (besides taking me with them : -) Your father was an important part of history.
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 5 жыл бұрын
@@nemo227 Most definitely almost neighbors! At one time I called McKeesport,PA "home". (amoung a few other Mon Valley towns!) I still live in Pittsburgh (on the North SIde).
@nemo227
@nemo227 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesslick4790 I was born in McKeesport. Really. 1938. It's a little strange that the world is very large with billions of people but paths still cross once in a while. About 30 years ago there were two men in our local Toastmasters club that knew each other when they were kids 40 years previously and they came from the same little town in Kansas or Nebraska, a town of maybe 1500 people. They weren't friends but just knew each other and they end up in the same club at the same time in the same town on the California coast.
@pedtrog6443
@pedtrog6443 5 жыл бұрын
3:41 Eye protection?? Just look the other way! Hearing protection??.... DID YOU SAY SOMETHING?!
@chriscubbernuss3288
@chriscubbernuss3288 4 жыл бұрын
"Engage safety squints!" - AvE
@nfscsk
@nfscsk 4 жыл бұрын
fate of mens... reward for being strong
@Argonak1
@Argonak1 4 жыл бұрын
orton cap Punishment for progress more like.
@eugenecbell
@eugenecbell 3 жыл бұрын
It takes a lifetime to realize a new industry can have negative heath effects over a lifetime.
@salt-emoji
@salt-emoji 5 жыл бұрын
I never even considered how much engineering went into technology I've had my entire like.
@RA-uj3nm
@RA-uj3nm 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best things I've seen on KZbin... absolutely amazing content.
@neelyUScongress
@neelyUScongress 5 жыл бұрын
My friend is all kind of good information out there on KZbin or any other site and it's not just porno LOL
@doodskie999
@doodskie999 5 жыл бұрын
The qeustion we all have been asking for: "Is there a hydraulic press than can crush the hydraulic press from the hydraulic press channel?" MESTA: Hold my beer
@pgtmr2713
@pgtmr2713 3 жыл бұрын
Aaand here ve go.
@msjohncox
@msjohncox 5 жыл бұрын
Freaking awesome. So amazing to think these 10 machines are still in operation 65 years later and have been kept busy making parts for airplanes, tanks, missiles, space ships and more with up to 100 million pounds of pressure! They seem amazingly adaptable and are now controlled with computers. It was a huge investment, engineering and construction project but I'd say we got out money's worth out of it. I wonder how they even made them in the first place. I'd like to learn more about the die making process.
@timlovett2673
@timlovett2673 3 ай бұрын
Well, the 100 million was actually FORCE, not PRESSURE... but hey, he's just a narrator...
@Iconoclasher
@Iconoclasher 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the enlightenment. I'm a retired tool & die maker and I've worked on some big projects in my 40 years, but amazingly this is the first time I've heard about these presses. And here I thought I knew everything! '-)
@dumbo800
@dumbo800 4 жыл бұрын
Saw your recent screw video. As a gear cutter and generally interested person, I'd love it if you could do a video on gears (I noted the brief image of a lantern gear and pinion in the screw video). The involute tooth form and the ways of generating it and approximating it (hobbing, shaping, form cutters, milling) are both incredibly simple AND incredibly complex. I would even be able to get some video of hobbing, shaping, and form cutting if so wanted. It is also worth noting that although screw lathes are the original way to mass produce screws and worms, hobbing can also be used and will generate proper involute threads in screws and the more commonly hobbed helical gears.
@machinethinking
@machinethinking 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, please get in touch with me machinethinking.co/contact/
@mountainsriversandtrees1474
@mountainsriversandtrees1474 2 жыл бұрын
@@machinethinking Did this ever get made into a video? If so, is there a link?
@scottrackley4457
@scottrackley4457 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, as a toolmaker I would like to see a good gear hobbing video
@andrewmaples5
@andrewmaples5 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottrackley4457 I would recommend a video from a channel called This Old Tony. He has a fantastic video on the process of cutting gears.
@Tango_November
@Tango_November 5 жыл бұрын
I was fortunate enough to visit Alcoa as one of my school field trips. The whole buildings floor shook everytime the press came down and seeing it in person was truly awe-inspiring
@drpk6514
@drpk6514 6 жыл бұрын
German technology during WW2 was unbelievable!
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 6 жыл бұрын
Germany did not make anything like the B-29 or the atomic bomb. They were lucky they surrendered when they did. Or they'd have got glowed up instead of Japan.
@TheUlrikkaul
@TheUlrikkaul 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not German, but think of their rocket programes, it helped the US after the war. Please look up Werner von Braun.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 6 жыл бұрын
Why should I? A friend of mine's family was close personal friends with the good doctor. So I am well aware of who he was. When you walked into their house they had a picture on the wall of him with the whole brood. They may have even been related? I grew up in a very connected community. Von Braun used technology developed by this guy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_H._Goddard .
@chapiit08
@chapiit08 6 жыл бұрын
The allies were fascinated by German technology regardless of what you say or who you claim to be acquainted with.
@Creabsley
@Creabsley 6 жыл бұрын
Read a book. The Germans lead the world at that time in chemistry, metallurgy and physics. They had the potential to develop nuclear weapons but Hitler didn’t think it was worth the effort as they were winning.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 6 жыл бұрын
Very well put together info!
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 6 жыл бұрын
I have lived and worked in Cleveland in the fabricating and welding business including some Defense Department contracts and have worked with forgings from the 50.
@devonhughes3805
@devonhughes3805 5 жыл бұрын
Man. This is like a near perfect documentary. Great visuals, great writing, great narration. No glitzy re-enactments, and no overly-dramatic narration. THANK YOU!!
@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr 4 жыл бұрын
"Numbers are justified in this case" No kidding Jeeez... Now that's a machine.
@lolmysteries
@lolmysteries 6 жыл бұрын
I own the Millwright Company contracted to install both Sumitomo/Nest 100K ton presses at General Electric in Pittsfield, Mass in 1995. Standing 60 feet above ground and 45 feet underground, powered by two 5000 hp locomotive engines. The bottom 20x32.5 foot platen bed alone weighs 5k tons. I used custom made air bladders and gantry cranes to move most equipment into place from the ground up in less than ten months. My family has been involved in Industrial Master Millwrighting in the US since the 1850's, contracted in most manufacturing plants installed, relocated, expanded or demolished. I was born into it and has been part of my DNA since the 70's with thousands of installations under my belt... including Tesla in Hayward, California.
@machinethinking
@machinethinking 6 жыл бұрын
Could you get in touch with me via the contact page on machinethinking.co? I'd love to know more!
@torpidparakeet9362
@torpidparakeet9362 6 жыл бұрын
@davide khalil why even make that comment? Ignorance is bliss
@gonzonayt
@gonzonayt 5 жыл бұрын
I don't believe what you described at Pittsfield is a press. Could it have been another type of machine?
@72timhall
@72timhall 5 жыл бұрын
Great grandpa moved presses into the Hamilton Ontario steel mills using teams of horses.No airbags.Ice blocks.
@uwusmolbean
@uwusmolbean 5 жыл бұрын
Human ingenuity gets it done !!
@BillyN31
@BillyN31 6 жыл бұрын
I’m not an engineer or a mathematician, but the video was awesome and the technology and figures were mind blowing.
@StereoMike06
@StereoMike06 6 жыл бұрын
The reasons why all these old machines keep on working well after what seems to be a usable lifespan is they were extremely overbuilt and over engineered. Before CAD and digital simulation you you rounded up your calculations by a few factors. There was not this horrible mentality of today for planned obsolescence.
@Kevin-fj5oe
@Kevin-fj5oe 6 жыл бұрын
Capitalism
@catnium
@catnium 6 жыл бұрын
its not over engineered when it refuses to break down that's proper engineering you're just too used to the usual corporate fuckery of under engineering to make sure shit breaks after some time so you'd have to BUY a new one.
@timvandenbrink4461
@timvandenbrink4461 6 жыл бұрын
Catnium yes, and I’m sick of it.
@onemantwohands5224
@onemantwohands5224 6 жыл бұрын
This is why my grand father's have all of my respect :-) :-) :-)
@jebise1126
@jebise1126 6 жыл бұрын
not really... industrial standards are different than civilian besides people want cheap stuff...
@eriktempelman2097
@eriktempelman2097 2 жыл бұрын
academic teacher here. these videos are pure gold. recommend them all the time in my lectures on manufacturing... and in my books. wonderful stuff!
@ChadDidNothingWrong
@ChadDidNothingWrong 5 жыл бұрын
2:20 What was the mother of invention? necessity? ....this is a great example
@kaboom555
@kaboom555 6 жыл бұрын
I follow several machining, educational and historical channels and I'm WOWED. I just binged every single video in this channel. In my opinion it deserves at least 20 to 30 times the number of subscribers and views it has now. Thank you very much and please keep it up!
@MirceaD28
@MirceaD28 6 жыл бұрын
I used to work at a tractor factory (UTB - Brasov) that made the Long tractors for the US, when I saw a small 8000 t press. Man, that pres could be felt 50 m away when it was in action.
@ZybakTV
@ZybakTV 5 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@AlexMageethefirst
@AlexMageethefirst 5 жыл бұрын
this was a really well made video. I can see the amount of work that went into researching and organising archive footage, good job!
@Javelina_Poppers
@Javelina_Poppers Жыл бұрын
Seeing the old Kearney and Trecker horizontal NC mill running on mylar tape brought back memories for me having worked in an aerospace machine shop.
@theq4602
@theq4602 6 жыл бұрын
The only reason I can think of someone needing a 200,000 ton press is if one is trying to hot forge pure Tungsten or tungsten alloys. Which is the toughest metal to machine. Having a density on par with gold and uranium (making it almost twice as heavy as lead) and a melting point of 6,192 °F (3422 °C) Such a press would be used for forging jet turbine blades and rocket nozzles , massive pressure vessels for nuclear reactors, and such. Applications where weight is no concern in the face of sheer strength at ridiculous temperatures.
@snap-off5383
@snap-off5383 5 жыл бұрын
Great comment.
@timlovett2673
@timlovett2673 3 ай бұрын
Naah - what metal are you going to use for the mold when you try to forge Tungsten at its ridiculously high temperature? There is no metal that could survive that. These presses just need to get bigger when you make bigger things. Like Tesla's Gigapresses - they are just pressure die casting machines, but it is all scaled up much bigger than the previous limiting sizes of that process - so you can make half a car for the first time ever.
@-edmo-5918
@-edmo-5918 6 жыл бұрын
Hello and welcome to the hydraulic press channel
@streamware7746
@streamware7746 6 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@andycraig7734
@andycraig7734 6 жыл бұрын
-Edmo- Vat da fawk?!
@minnionator
@minnionator 6 жыл бұрын
Herr ve havv ah Mesta 50K tonn press. Ve gonna crush a baseball now!
@streamware7746
@streamware7746 6 жыл бұрын
lmao
@johndias6614
@johndias6614 6 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😃😄😅😆😉😅😄😃🤣😂😁😀
@104995211y
@104995211y 6 жыл бұрын
That was very informative and well narrated. Great job. Two thumbs way way up.
@bushelfoot
@bushelfoot 4 жыл бұрын
Believe me they didn't guess, they knew what they were doing..
@latotheleaf2223
@latotheleaf2223 5 жыл бұрын
As a machinist and someone interested in all aspects of metal working I found this video fascinating. Great stuff!
@neelyUScongress
@neelyUScongress 5 жыл бұрын
Not a lot of people watch TV anymore especially the older generation that being said there's all kind of good shit out here on the internet that's been archived and carefully preserved. In short my friend the younger generation can learn what we learned back in our time. Is all kind of crap out here on the internet not just porno, LOL.
@MikeJamesMedia
@MikeJamesMedia 6 жыл бұрын
Loved this... Thanks to the highly-detailed, and still understandable narration and diagrams, I learned quite a bit about metalworking history. Thanks!
@x...CrankyOldMan...x
@x...CrankyOldMan...x 6 жыл бұрын
well said... totally agree.
@ChrisMuncy
@ChrisMuncy 6 жыл бұрын
What a great mini-documentary. Thanks for sharing this!
@JamesAce
@JamesAce 4 жыл бұрын
The titel: Americas iron giants Me: americas "Big Iron"
@constitution_8939
@constitution_8939 4 жыл бұрын
More honestly Germany's Iron Giants till we killed them ; (
@Argonak1
@Argonak1 4 жыл бұрын
Constitution_89 I mean we stole 3 of them and so did the russians.
@wildtatz
@wildtatz 4 жыл бұрын
Me ..geklaut von die deutschen ..
@Stabacs
@Stabacs 4 жыл бұрын
@@wildtatz“ (..)von den Deutschen.“ ... sry :P
@wildtatz
@wildtatz 4 жыл бұрын
@@Stabacs hey its not my native language. .ich bin Holländer
@jason9035
@jason9035 2 жыл бұрын
A company in Paramount California has installed a 60,000 ton press. So officially it would be the largest press in the United States, unless the government has a secret one somewhere .
@kgdies
@kgdies 3 жыл бұрын
America achieved it's greatness with slide rules not computers.
@rhubarbpie2027
@rhubarbpie2027 5 жыл бұрын
Seeing the bulkheads for the F-15E post machining is beautiful. I had no idea such a machine made these components for the aircraft I work on.
@mmenjic
@mmenjic 5 жыл бұрын
And after all that history they simply removed MESTA logo from it.
@TYSuggested
@TYSuggested 5 жыл бұрын
I find that a shame as well. They should have kept it.
@Quantum-
@Quantum- 5 жыл бұрын
With mesta having gone out of business Alcoa acquired the blueprints and patents for the press. So it's technically an Alcoa brand press now.
@schlomoshekelstein908
@schlomoshekelstein908 5 жыл бұрын
@@Quantum- i guess davinci pantings aren't really davinci they're technically smithsonsian-
@Quantum-
@Quantum- 5 жыл бұрын
@@schlomoshekelstein908 the Smithsonian doesn't even own any Da Vinci creations. Nice try though.
@schlomoshekelstein908
@schlomoshekelstein908 5 жыл бұрын
@@Quantum- did you learn that in minecraft
@frenchriversprings
@frenchriversprings 6 жыл бұрын
Alec Steele sent me here. You just got a new subscriber!
@bobbyjudalet2011
@bobbyjudalet2011 6 жыл бұрын
Same here
@jimmy5846
@jimmy5846 6 жыл бұрын
Yep. Holy cow this channel doubled in subs OVERNIGHT. Check out Alec Steel's latest video (10/24/18) for his shout out!
@samverhaegen9753
@samverhaegen9753 6 жыл бұрын
Same
@jamesshackcloth8388
@jamesshackcloth8388 6 жыл бұрын
Same here .... great content ...
@jamesshackcloth8388
@jamesshackcloth8388 6 жыл бұрын
That Alec doise bloke does well for the utube community ... good luck to anyone and everyone involved
@handyandy6488
@handyandy6488 4 жыл бұрын
Sincere thanks for highlighting this strategic infrastructural tooling. It's obviously a critical part of our metalworking technogy and civilization.
@nutzeeer
@nutzeeer 5 жыл бұрын
I was in a mercedes farcory tour once, they also had large presses, that worked with noteable speed (and noise, so they werent even going at 100%)
@halfstep67
@halfstep67 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to have one of those 50K ton presses to smash my soda cans. I could get more cans into a trash bag.
@nemo227
@nemo227 6 жыл бұрын
halfstep67, you could build your own can smasher out of lumber and bolts. You could easily build a smasher to flatten 24 cans at a time with just some 2x4 lumber using leverage principles. Oh, and then post it on youtube.
@halfstep67
@halfstep67 6 жыл бұрын
But with a 50K ton press, I could save up all my cans and only have to smash them once a year.
@LastDollie
@LastDollie 6 жыл бұрын
halfstep67 same 😂
@nemo227
@nemo227 6 жыл бұрын
halfstep67, your logic is without defect but . . . my yard isn't big enough for a 50K ton press. Maybe my neighbor will let me use half of his yard . . .
@MagruderSpoots
@MagruderSpoots 6 жыл бұрын
If you wear shoes and stand on them endwise carefully they flatten nicely.
@grahamkingston210
@grahamkingston210 6 жыл бұрын
Just ran across this channel, damn good job.
@workhardism
@workhardism 5 жыл бұрын
This is actually one of my favourite videos on all of KZbin. :)
@mkmgcok
@mkmgcok 5 жыл бұрын
||100,000t Mechanical Press||. There's been designed a mechanical (not hydraulic) press machine, at least 100,000t. It's been designed by the elderly inventor all alone. The innovation uses the inventor's know-how, invention and great engineering experience in the field. Do you think they say:"Wow! I want that press machine at any cost!" ?! The cost is quite definite, by the way. Don’t you feel the irony of the moment? We’ve left the stone age, just now, for the age of the regular space flights! The 100,000 press machine is a hallmark of the new era....But they don't seem to burst into tears, in great excitement, and to start promoting the project. If you'd like to support the inventor and his project, please contact me.
@inigovazquez14
@inigovazquez14 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the insight! I had no idea how interesting all this could be. With your tone and the amount of information you give is amazing. Keep it up bud!
@gdgobi7330
@gdgobi7330 6 жыл бұрын
One of the Press is broke down, it sent back to Germany to rebuild and put it back in operation. German Company Siempelkamp did the rebuilding.
@machinethinking
@machinethinking 6 жыл бұрын
That's exactly right and after publishing this video I was kicking myself for not tying that back in at the end.
@VenomStryker
@VenomStryker 5 жыл бұрын
@Cheryl The Russians suffered the most during WW2 and it was felt owed to them to let them be the first to enter Berlin. But we knew we had to hold them back at some point too, which is why things were divided the way they were.
@VenomStryker
@VenomStryker 5 жыл бұрын
@Cheryl Yeah ok, believe that bullshit if you want. Maybe they were allowed to do that, but it was considered revenge for them.
@timbrink
@timbrink 5 жыл бұрын
And so began the phrase, "That man's got nuts like the Mesta 50." 10:05
@arailway8809
@arailway8809 5 жыл бұрын
I once worked with a guy whose father was an engineer for Dodge. On his last day before he retired, he put his alarm clock in a paper sack and gave it to a drop pressman to demolish.
@killmimes
@killmimes 5 жыл бұрын
I like the cut of his jib!
@dannygjk
@dannygjk 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@nateweter4012
@nateweter4012 4 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic video. I have been studying WW2, Guns, and equipment since the 90’s and I’m a pilot, yet I’ve never truly had a good understanding of how factories are tooled and the differences between drop forging, pressing, and milling. This video is exactly what should be shown in US high schools. These are the machines that give us our world.
@brebmann
@brebmann 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, Machine Thinking, could you open your videos to subtitle contributions? I'm sure plenty of people (including myself) would love to make subtitles or even translations for your videos. You have great content and this deserves to be recognized by your fanbase.
@youtube_fantastic
@youtube_fantastic 6 жыл бұрын
What a unique look at history through the lenses of machines. Great job as usual MT. Cheers.
@brianmuhlingBUM
@brianmuhlingBUM 3 жыл бұрын
A very interesting subject, very well written and beautifully narrated. Excellent historic vision of these machines operating. How could anybody not be completely impressed by the workings of these huge Machines! Thank you!
@ronin472100
@ronin472100 5 жыл бұрын
This was very well done. I had no idea about the Mesta Company...Thank you. I have been enriched!
@jdsstegman
@jdsstegman Жыл бұрын
One of the best doc's I have ever seen. The whole channel makes me realize how he got here. I fix things built by others. Cars for a living but all other power sports stuff on the side. If you needed a space craft fixed I could fix that too as it was made by someone. So their for has a way and specs on how it was built. Like this video, the world has become better because of this machine in so many ways...... just amazing.
@davido5058
@davido5058 10 ай бұрын
I tuned into this program because I had a long day at the office and I thought this would be the perfect program to help me fall asleep. Boy, was I wrong, excellent narration and content, perfect pace, now I've subscribed, bookmarked so I can show my kids about presses, and I'm onto the next program you have on here. Thanks for a job well done!
@tkx86
@tkx86 3 жыл бұрын
Real title: 'Germany's Iron Giants'
@lazy1126
@lazy1126 3 жыл бұрын
kinda funny how even back then america was a third world country.
@MarcABrown-tt1fp
@MarcABrown-tt1fp 3 жыл бұрын
@@lazy1126 What does that even mean?
@Tankliker
@Tankliker 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp that before the USA had a industrial build up they technological Standart was as backwards as Africa today. But that probably only really holds true for the time when the colonization starter
@MarcABrown-tt1fp
@MarcABrown-tt1fp 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tankliker The giant press was merely an inspired addition to a presently established American industry. that was until the (inspired innovation) started happening widespread in America... We simply mixed things up when we copied homework after the late 40s in certain companies. America was never really a 3rd world country until recently in some places.
@Tankliker
@Tankliker 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp read my comment again and then tell me if these presses would have been "just a mere addition" to US industry in the 16-17 hundreds lol
@jakespeed63
@jakespeed63 3 жыл бұрын
As a native Clevelander, all this industrial history, is in my blood. There where countless massive factories, near where I grew up. Was lucky to have worked at a Industrial based Hardware store, that catered to them. Got to go inside quite a few. Also got to tour the Lima Abrams Tank plant, whilst in college. Thanks for sharing 😎👍
@yannchevrier-foundy5063
@yannchevrier-foundy5063 6 жыл бұрын
that's what I want next christmas
@saraperry6667
@saraperry6667 Жыл бұрын
This is amazing! I often think I'm alone in geeking out over certain things, but your awe and reverence for these giant machines just makes me giddy! And the way you articulate these details is so easily digestible to me (if that's the right term here) when I often get overwhelmed by too much information. I'm so psyched to go watch more of your videos!🙀
@kpkndusa
@kpkndusa 5 жыл бұрын
I am im-PRESSed. It really is a remarkable machine. Thanks.
@admiralmudkip9836
@admiralmudkip9836 5 жыл бұрын
That joke was depressing... You're really pushing it
@kpkndusa
@kpkndusa 5 жыл бұрын
@@admiralmudkip9836 I'm crushed!
@Volodimar
@Volodimar 5 жыл бұрын
I Press this subscribe button with such force, that foundation cracked!
@flintstoneengineering
@flintstoneengineering 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic content, fantastic channel. All very much appreciated.
@jesshill6295
@jesshill6295 6 жыл бұрын
l got to see the German extrusion mold press we got from the Nazis when I worked at UAC in canton GA its stil making airplane parts every day
@jesshill6295
@jesshill6295 6 жыл бұрын
Universal Alloy Co
@mkmgcok
@mkmgcok 6 жыл бұрын
Jess Hill Hi Jess, my Dad knows everything about these beatiful machines. His first (after graduating) engineering project had been about a forging line design, for the Kharkov Tractor Plant, Ukraine. It was great and much better than existing then designs, from the first submission, being the last one, having not a subtle mistake to fix, in all that huge project. At least one more large industrial company used his design,too: to reconstruct its own forging shop. You could imagine his competence and professionalism just after graduating from university, that he had showed in his first ever after graduating project. Since then, all his life he has been making innovation projects, most of them including his author innovations and “know how”- something like 40 patents and ten more requests for a patent.. As a matter of fact, he has submitted his 100,000t force mechanical(!) Press machine (with optional update to at least 200,000t) . If You’re interested, I could share a very short and introductory presentation with You. Actually we’ve built a model machine (2t), too. Marina
@timtim8468
@timtim8468 6 жыл бұрын
Volkswagen still uses a giant sheet press, made in the GDR, at the Wolfsburg plant. They tell us they are enemies, but TPTB work together. Note that all that stuff was always available all around the world, including nuclear, supersonic, etc technology.
@tomgio1
@tomgio1 3 жыл бұрын
This showed up in my YT feed, no idea why. But now I’m going down a rabbit hole! Great stuff. Something about learning what makes our world go round behind the scenes is fascinating, and high quality videos like this bring that to life more than any dry textbook could (though I appreciate those books for the people who need to study them).
@cheyennereynoso4116
@cheyennereynoso4116 4 жыл бұрын
I think of this now when I see big machines and vehicles in the real world. This type of content is good for the world as in it allows people to appreciate modernity.
@ConorFenlon
@ConorFenlon 5 жыл бұрын
Stellar content. No frills, just thrilling facts. Absolutely perfect. 👌🏻 subbed
@Puckthepolice
@Puckthepolice 6 жыл бұрын
As a machinist this video rocks. Good job buddy
@bosshoss69lee
@bosshoss69lee 6 жыл бұрын
It is truly amazing the we only need 2 50k ton presses, I had no idea the presses were so massive though
@whereswaldo5740
@whereswaldo5740 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. As a machinist for 22 years I enjoyed this video. I really like making stuff.
@haydenamaro
@haydenamaro 4 жыл бұрын
How is the History Channel even a thing when this guy can just come along and single-handedly blow all of their programming out of the water?
@robguyatt9602
@robguyatt9602 6 жыл бұрын
I think I have just found a new favourite channel.
@TheFridge
@TheFridge 6 жыл бұрын
Got sent here from Alex Steele. Must say, this video has earned my sub, nice work! :)
@desertblbuesman
@desertblbuesman 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah that's the stuff. Great video!
@uidsea
@uidsea 3 жыл бұрын
As someone with little mechanical knowledge, learning about these machines is incredible. Most of us know that we made great strides in technology but very few of us know what those strides looked like.
@0xggbrnr
@0xggbrnr 2 жыл бұрын
"Four sections of each column are threaded with giant nuts on them. All are 52 inches across, and can weigh up to 55 tons for just the nut." Those are some giant nuts.
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