american chopper senior vs junior return of the black widow part 2:3

[@jasonseals1113]

I could never understand Sr.'s treatment of Jr. My son took up in my profession and surpassed me at every level and I couldn't be prouder. I did my job as a parent and love his success.

[@Wrastleman903]

That’s the difference between you and Sr. Sr got super jealous when Jr surpassed him and it made him angry on so many levels. POS. 💯

[@boybawang1981]

Cuz Sr. is just a horrible human being and even worst father...when he heard about PJD, he was yelling that it would fail and that he hoped it would fail!!!

[@ghhhp]

yeah i was gonna say even when jr was all nice and cordial with him he was still talking shit about him on camera and being an asshole that’s ridiculous

[@nickmazz3395]

Bc he was lazy after the first 18 months. Wanted to be the CEO and lazy and took long breaks. Disappeared and never came in on time. And senior was jealous of Junior getting a “free ride to fame” clearly as it was a bad clash. Didn’t work They had a gold mine and they fucked it all uot

[@RemoGutierrez1]

Sr should have given in to Jr's "bosses son" behavior. Never on work on time, leaving during the day as much as he wanted, he's cocky attitude, etc. Senior should have handled it better.

[@peterowens768]

Senior never LOOKS ANYBODY IN The EYE WHEN HE shakes THEIR HAND.

[@ronaldshank7589]

He was talking about humility on Paul Jr's part. Yeah, right! Like Sr's got any room to say anything about that! With the way he did his Employees, I do believe that he got what was coming to him. I'm not into hating anybody, because 2: I'm a firm believer in God, and his Word, and 2: The Bible tells us not to hate. However, the Bible does allude to the fact, that we all get what we deserve-And that includes Sr! From what I heard, he did people dirty!

[@TheLastProphet11]

Sr: "I just finished suing my son, idk why he acts like that... "

[@mikepo6042]

Right

[@gwynmorris5763]

It's like ok...maybe because you sued him you moron.

[@steverichens4242]

Sr’s all out for sr.

[@vern8206]

SR was and is so immature, i remember when jr told him that sr was going to bury the company during their gander bike build... and he was dead on

[@Dwendele]

I've been on both sides of the father/son dynamic. I must say, it's heartbreaking how clueless Sr is at this point.

[@paleo704]

Oh stop

[@luckyvet]

One day Junior will look down on all levels @ Senior and realize just how much better he is than his father. He'll believe it, and see it as we all do.

[@TheFallenVolrath]

This comment is aging well.

[@maryjones-ellis102]

At the end of the day none of that stuff even matters because the day they put you in the ground which ever one goes first they’ll wish like hell at the sun or dad was here for just one minute this is also stupid it makes me just cry because my dad is gone and I wished every day every day he was here even though me and my dad had a good relationship I still miss him him

[@nflisrigged1395]

Someday he will look back and just wish he could say hi to his dad and love ya . Or spend xmas

[@paleo704]

@@TheFallenVolrath no it isn’t. Paul Jr designs failed. OCC is still thriving

[@TheFallenVolrath]

@@paleo704 He opened a new shop lol

[@brettd530]

"Humbleness" senior has the nerve to say that. One thing that senior is not is humble.

[@Hero_of_Legend]

When you've done what he's done, you don't have to be humble.

[@robertsmalls2293]

Kaptain K And what exactly has he done?

[@garethhancock8525]

@@robertsmalls2293 ~ built a multi-million empire from nothing

[@robertsmalls2293]

Gareth Hancock He also basically single handedly ran said empire into the ground for a while thanks to his bitter incompetence.

[@garethhancock8525]

@@robertsmalls2293 ~ I disagree about incompetence, if it was incompetence he would never have been successful in the first place, I think jus a very selfish guy who dosnt consider others, even his own family, and the success went to his head, would you agree?

[@Bgz8890s]

Damn I miss this show! I started watching it from the 1st season in my freshman year of High School, all the way up until the final season and I was working a full time job. So many great memories! It was when Paul Sr. bought that fancy new building, that everything started going down the shitter, you could literally see the ego getting bigger and bigger. I hope they're all doing well now though, and I'd love to see a new season in 2022!

[@tthetopofmygame]

I started back watching from the 1st season reruns but there are some episodes missing on the discovery app. Like to know how to find them.

[@adamhonestyanddecency5054]

It bothers me that Sr. didn't take more responsibility for his relationship with Jr. That relationship needed an adult, and it didn't have one. Sr. even argues with him when he's not around.

[@dongil123]

It did and his name was Paul jnr but fair comment.

[@Africanfrogs]

Fabricated drama

[@edwardmatthews5899]

Nah its a reason why alot of sons cant work with there dads because the fathers always felt they had to guide there sons(orders)and the son wanted to go about things on his own initiative but then some father son relationships are great overall because they allow greater freedoms and openess,jnr look like he was over the moon when he saw snr just shy coz of the past situations.

[@browntrout196]

Drove your son's away, good job dad.all that money,and every hates your guts.

[@harpoon_bakery162]

yep, he's loaded. that place he built was gigantic. from the apparel income alone he probably can pay his payroll and the utilities. Hollywood CCTV setup, merchandise inventory, parts desk, computers consoles everywhere. Some vendors like let's say the cloverleaf people probably gave him all the equipment just so it would be on TV. SR. made out like a bandit while the son (JR.) has a small shop with a crew of like 4 to 5 and is probably just scraping along on minimal budget.

[@scootterpootter]

@@harpoon_bakery162 Um, you know that he was broke right after this lawsuit was over, right? He filed bankruptcy and his home went into foreclosure. Does that sound like someone who is loaded? lol

[@harpoon_bakery162]

@@scootterpootter that's all for the courts and show. you have to be kidding right? You know he's got the huge building still for the business and a Florida home (extremely big) and is opening another huge place down between Tampa and Sweetwater, right? He and wifey also contribute to animals shelters, donate lots of time and money to the effort. He had to settle some stuff with his home because of protecting himself, that's it. nothing more , nothing less. Dude is loaded. He ran a welding and fabrication company for 25 years before he even stepped foot into Orange Co.

[@M.Bison94]

@@harpoon_bakery162 I got an OCC for 4K and they wanted 80k before it sat around for 4 years. They’re not selling shit, the bikes are not well built anymore.

[@JohnMacKay-jc6xi]

Did he drive all of his sons away just sad

[@TheRomeo1580]

U can tell Junior loves him alot. Senior is a ungrateful person.

[@mattivirta]

i see junior love only money money money need more money senior pocket want clean empty, idiot all junior

[@freedomisntfree5573]

@@mattivirta ? Don't know what you were watching but Pauly said the old man was going to drive that company into the ground. Old man did,

[@mattivirta]

@@freedomisntfree5573 if junior has say this have totally lie and big bullshit. old men have understand howe make good busines and build shop and make bike but junior not understand busines anythink him destroy ALL what has building. busines. junior want only waste lot money buy lot bikes,cars,girlfriend shop,waste lot money and father has say thousand timew NOT waste we money than idiot. junior have totally idiot if talk busines and need do busines.

[@mattivirta]

@@freedomisntfree5573 payly speak alltime only shit, him lie more than can speak true. dont ewer believe junior idiot.

[@l0l0mgwtgdq]

@@mattivirta calling people an idiot, but yet can’t speak proper English? Who looks stupid now....

[@MarcoMartinez-ck9vq]

Since the beginning of the show, Paul Jr has been the brain in every design, not even sure how senior staid in business without Jr. Sr doesn’t know yet what humility means.

[@alexfithero]

He didn’t he lost the shop and now owns a restaurant in Florida. Lost his house too and that shop

[@kristophernash3626]

I remember watching the build episodes for this bike and loved the look of it. And people may bash it, but I think it just looks cool.

[@yaterlynch6477]

The problem is…that’s all it does. All the wannabe hell’s angels jumped on this fad and then realized choppers SUCK to ride.

[@joeschmo9838]

Sickest motorcycle ever and if I had the money, I'd own it. The workmanship alone is artistic...Senior should be happy his kid is showing him up but seems like he always wanted to hold "you were 2 minutes late, f you f you f your excuse your f'in garbage" On a side note I love the old school bobbers Senior grew up buildin...Those old school bikes look badass. Jesse James would show him up tho, just sayin ;)

[@vinniepaul182]

The anti venom one is the best

[@mikemike5223]

Not a bike you would want to ride for over a hour. Especially if you’re a older person.

[@vegasmike]

SR just does not get it. And he never will.

[@johnpatrick3458]

Exactly. People like him are always the victim. They never think they do any wrong. Yet it's obvious to everyone else that they are the problem.

[@parentsbasement7734]

If only paul Sr and boyd coddington would've opened a shop together. Oh what a shit show that could've been

[@stanstenson8168]

I was just thinking the same thing.

[@conradpena8585]

I'm sensing MORAL. Is a lil low? gimme your keys so I can evaporate your tires. While you buy more off me or take it out your hard earned check, or get a ride home 🤣

[@axlejohnson9156]

OMG, you read my mind.

[@frankcabanski9409]

True. It was all scripted, you know.

[@marybrady2721]

Talk to your dad

[@ITxManster]

Watched this show from the beginning one constant in this show Sr never took any responsibility for his bipolar behavior. Even now on the new show he won’t admit to his mistakes.

[@munterboy9298]

My wife is bipolar I am trapped we have a kid so I can my leave her

[@imawarioimagonnawin8553]

@@munterboy9298 😂😂😂

[@robertsmalls2293]

munterboy Stay together for the kids but just stay away from your wife. Just keep your head down.

[@splewy]

The man was on steroids the whole time, so that probably had something to do with it.

[@justincarney930]

@@splewy who SR ?

[@14rs2]

When Mikey started talking about baggage I was expecting him to say he was a dead weight 😂

[@lilynmike26]

Damn it bro. Killin me😂

[@RubinsRacing350]

Mikeys hilarious 😆

[@derekwalker4623]

Rick was like yeah your full of it but I like having a job so ......

[@dh25]

It's funny how Senior describes the sitution and the footage shows a total different Scene at the same time

[@wgskipanderson5993]

I agree completely. looked back at video couple of times and Sr.tried setting Jr. and Vinny up and then lies about it.

[@christiancervantes4821]

What I love about these guys is that they fight like a family that loves one another

[@ronaldcoursey1851]

what kind of man talks about his own son god bless them all

[@darrenleeson60]

My father does that all the time

[@garethhancock8525]

Every man who has a son has talked about him

[@14rs2]

2:22 “that’s a good sign he’s showing humbleness which is something he was lacking on before…… me however I’m the most humble person ever I’m the best at being humble, you can’t compete with how humble I am”

[@bigpappy3660]

Sr lets his crew talk shit on his sons! Who does that?

[@urbanrider7981]

The old man is all me me me.

[@mattivirta]

but all have him, he has build all factory .if junior try make own factory him fail all. junior have only artist and he come piss to head fast.

[@bogg7zed102]

Jr is still in business while Sr has gone bankrupt. It's kinda like one had the talent to back up his attitude. And the other just had the attitude and tried to live of the talent of those he hired.

[@spooge33]

I think the biggest statement was Vinny being there with Jr. and the fact that he is uncomfortable around Sr. Says it all for me.

[@Utahtruckguy]

Lol and Sr was saying Vinny was in a hurry to get out there… total lack of awareness

[@fionawhite5052]

I actually stopped watching OCC since Paul jr left... I'm over the moon he has started his own company & vinnie is back.love it!!! oh yea Mikey rulze...

[@tommyt1971]

If you really wanna boil down Sr's problem it's that he never treated Jr like he was supposed: as a PARTNER in the business. He never really wanted to share the operation of the biz with his son. He always acted like Jr was his least favorite employee. Now, a lot can be said for Jr's work ethic in the early days: taking 2-3 hr lunchbreaks, not telling anyone when he was leaving, coming in late, deliberately leaving his phone behind so Dad couldn't call him and bitch at him, etc. But in the end, Sr didn't have the respect for Jr that Jr deserved and he was a greedy old badger to boot.

[@Michael-jw6et]

Not true at all. Senior Treated his son way better than he should have. Jr. disrespected his father and the business all the time.

[@spearfisherman308]

​@@Michael-jw6etsr was an asshole constantly micromanaging everything

[@justinjustinjustin10]

Both were equally to blame on my opinion

[@tonyjones2180]

Too much drugs and alcohol from the past caught up with Sr cause his mind is freaking gone 😂

[@Huero510]

Steroids too

[@Utahtruckguy]

Sr has always struck me as the alcoholic type

[@mariowerner3525]

Pauly was always the real one here, be beve and keep move on

[@nicktaylor5819]

Paul Sr recollections of the meeting were literally nothing close to how it actually happened Paulie was happy ,polite ,patient and even said I'll see you later Dad when he shook his hand wtf was his problem, jealousy?

[@underthetrees4780]

Narcissism

[@stevenmcvay310]

They both needed to calm down back them... Its wasn't chaos and he did look him in the eye when shaking his hand.

[@robertruiz1265]

When Vinnie left occ was when everything started going down hill. Sr saw everything with negative glasses.

[@tammymoody8952]

That was when I stoped watching the show. I watched this to see Vinny.

[@davidfernandez4333]

Got to see both of the bikes in person and meet Jr. Super cool guy. The Black Widow and Anti Venom was something to see. Safe to say that Jr was the reason the company took off when he was with OCC

[@learn4rmnature]

Vinnie is a good guy and great friend to have!

[@volunteerpatriot2143]

So sad to watch a family disintegrate the way that one did.

[@Godfather5400]

I’ve never picked sides. Family fights is always internal but when add in millions of people watching it all go down every week, and saying things about each other on camera and having it shown, it’s just totally a different animal than what the rest of us had with our own families

[@houseviceroy]

Junior shook his hand before departure and said "thanks dad" that simple gesture should say alot

[@chesterswingjr9796]

That gesture went right over Sr’s head. I don’t know what meeting he’s talking about, but Jr’s actions were sincere.

[@tommytravis5000]

i could never understand a father treating his son that way. I would bleed and die for both of my sons. I hope they surpass me in every way.

[@woeuntousall2611]

Ya know, I usually support the old man, because the kid showed him no respect at all, but he's got no right to talk about how the kid didn't look at him when they shook hands......he never looks at ANYBODY when he greet them or shakes hands...

[@nickyd.4695]

Sr. knows everything, that's why everyone loves him.

[@dh6565]

He knows how to make a total fool out of himself

[@darksideofthemoon3039]

I’m glad there a lot better now but I don’t think Vinnie was wrong about the thousand of hours of overtime not paid, especially when they met face to face and Sr said basically, I made you famous.

[@wgskipanderson5993]

Yes, Sr. really is a very shallow person.

[@beakittelscherz5419]

The ole man said in the second show of the series Pauly couldnt even keep a job at McDonalds ...SR doesnt deserve a son.

[@Michael-ze7ti]

I have watched these guys from the start I could never say anything bad about either one of them they are both great bike builders the are the ones that inspired me to get sober after meeting both of them at the javitts center they both had very inspiring conversations with me

[@pjdiver3]

Imagine how cool the show would have been if they built bikes that you could actually ride

[@bigred22685]

Yeah my back always ached just looking at these style bikes. They're like pieces of art you take around the block once a year until your ass recovers from the last ride.

[@buckshot3732]

It's a 1off custom show bike it's a winning show bike you don't ride them!!! Duh!

[@frmerrin2]

@@buckshot3732 What's the point of buying a bike if you can't ride it?

[@buckshot3732]

@@frmerrin2 150,000$ bike u win shows with it DUH!! I ride my HD alot Owned a show bike once. sold it at a profit I'm alot happier now

[@chesterswingjr9796]

@@frmerrin2 - Yep!!! Why spend $150,000 for a bike you can’t ride? To win a $50 plastic trophy? Makes sense to me!!! 😂😂😂

[@BigSparky1316]

That would suck to hate your own dad and your dad hate you. My father was similar to Sr but he was in and out of lock up for putting his hands on my family from as far back as i could remember but i still loved that man and did until he took his own life in 2009. Addiction is a mother trucker.

[@christianbeevers4937]

Sr. Is a joke, Pauly was the creative force behind the bikes, they were great theme bikes, OCC without Jr. is a joke.

[@thomasreed181]

Dad is a jerk! Divided his family. They needed to be away from Paul Sr and it’s the best thing that ever happened to them.

[@mirandahosla5203]

I like the black widow

[@sergboxer7785]

Pretty fucked up when Dad and Son hate each other over money and fame. In the end, family is all you got.

[@adamhonestyanddecency5054]

MEXICANCHUGGER Yes it is.

[@Roger-hp1yg]

Yup

[@Avalanche2]

What a sick man senior was, wow.

[@gregrock7451]

"I dunno why Paulie Jr felt like had to avoid me and not look at me when he came through here. I mean, it's like, 'Jeez, what's your damage? You think I'm gonna pop off and go totally apeshit for no apparent reason?"

[@ajv802]

This show is like a tampon commercial.

[@ultramaximusreviews]

The Black Widow and the Fire Bike ARE the OCC TV show builds for sure

[@dmac7406]

Haha Paul Sr they had lobster dinner waiting love it.

[@Arctic_Falcon]

Looking back at the post Paul Jr at OCC episodes, I find it to be hilarious and sad how Paul Sr was shitting all over Jr for designing a grill and a dog park instead of building bikes. What Sr wouldn't tell is he had Jr in a non-compete clause for 1 year, stipulating that Jr could not make any bikes. Then when Jr started making bikes, Sr claimed Jr didn't have an original bone in his body and should do something other than build bikes, because apparently in Sr's mind he created bike-building or something. The real kicker is Sr went as far as to pay Lee and Odie to try and screw over Jr and miss deadlines -- it takes a truly pathetic and psychotic person to do this to anyone, let alone a son. Sr also claimed Jr was too lazy to even get out of bed to build a bike and would not complete one bike. Not only did he and Vinnie set up a giant shop in 6 weeks, they also built two extremely involved bikes during 2 of those weeks and unveiled them in front of a massive crowd in Sturgis, where Sr and OCC were -- but the promotors at Sturgis wanted Jr's bikes, not OCC's. This is very telling. Fast forward a decade later, PJD is still around (albeit a smaller operation but still opening a second shop now). Meanwhile OCC have literally lost everything -- tools, building, employees and all -- and Sr is now alone in Florida selling hamburgers. And of course he is using Jr's bikes to attract people to the restaurant. LOL. I give that business venture 2-3 years max before it folds, just like the many other bike-themed restaurants he opened over the past 15 years that went belly up in no time.

[@jumboslice1514]

SR. Should’ve had millions of dollars. He made millions just off of merchandise and the tv show let alone his bikes. Does him good to be flipping burgers.

[@WilleJamesHuff]

I agree. I watched videos of the restaraunt tour in Florida. Any of them you watch the place is dead

[@robertclark6349]

The restaurant in Kansas City barely lasted two years.

[@nickforde9858]

Rick is the only real bike builder on this show.

[@mikemajewski8656]

idn bout that... pretty sure i recall him laughing at jesse james for building real bikes.. making fun of him for "mining his own iron ore'' and not having a cnc to build him a lego kit bike

[@jasonjgr8580]

The black widow bike was cool ass bike.

[@rustynail2783]

Senior saying Junior has been lacking in humbleness. Uuummmmm........ yeah.

[@NocturnalRS]

Life's all about the widow things.

[@thomasconnearney4849]

The fact he calls him dad means more then anything Bc it still means he sees him as his father ik many friends who don’t have good relationships with there dads that call there dads by there first names

[@Enzo87325]

Mikey the only one with a clear head lol

[@34stzoo]

2:15 It's really fun how Sr trying to spin out a narrative the Jr was the one with the problem.

[@altestic9436]

I like when Junior just totally cut his wife off when she was going to say old school new school. Complete disregard.. love it!

[@funnelnutz3227]

Without vinnie and rick occ or pjd wouldnt be where they are those 2 are the aces in the hole

[@cup_and_cone]

Rick wasn't even around when OCC went mainstream.

[@34stzoo]

4:30 Why should Jr. feel good or have positive vibes when he picked up the bike he had to sue you for. Senior's Narcissism is strong with him.

[@arthurpeters7412]

I'm sure the producers had nothing to do with this! Hollywood will gladly help tear a disgruntled family apart for some ratings... Why not

[@patricksmith3432]

Love u vinnie and pauli

[@martinneps9387]

Did he have a part of doing the Dixie chopper bike?I am very curious that is my all time.Favorite bike, I have a lawn mower by Dixie chopper and I love it.That's why I love that bike

[@kevinkozkoz4348]

Gimmick bike, that no one will ever ride! Matter of fact the majority of Pauly's bikes are not every day riders!

[@danielwalsh5319]

I like Paul jr is a good designer @ his bike r really good

[@onestepbeyond7240]

Those extremely raked chops are ok in a str8 line and they look cool , but they're a nightmare in the "handling" dept. Trust me .

[@gwynmorris5763]

I think, you were trying to manipulate the situation to make Jr kick off. To make him look like the unreasonable one.

[@carth2313]

There are real american choppers the kind I fell in love with as a kid

[@HillbillyReptiles]

Everyone hates on Sr, and don’t get me wrong he has his faults, but if Jr and Mikey worked anywhere else they would have been canned! The coming in late and yelling at the boss etc, ridiculous

[@bob-e9q]

The guy nextdoor just Heard this and Jumped on a Broomstick with Nails The sound was ohh ahh ooopoo

[@messemphanger]

That building is nothing but a shell of what it once was.

[@erasmohernandez9485]

Sr being a liar like normal.

[@JG12457]

"That's a good sign he came to get the bike, glad I made it as much of a pain in the ass as I could to get it out."

[@tommyt1971]

His son didn’t want to look him in the eye - well, if you’re one of TVs biggest ogres and you still demand that kind of respect, you get what you deserve.

[@heihei3453]

Dunno how Vinnie put up with that shit for so long.

[@daverussell5955]

He said he reached down to shake Paulie's hand. Talk about condescending

[@my11badkids78]

Oh how the Turtles have fallen from grace.

[@richardbarr3153]

I still love the looks and function of my nightrod special over any customs l see on tv builds. The only change to my bike is slip on mufflers. It looks beautiful it sounds proper and is almost built like it was built special for me to my liking

[@daleboxsell2805]

Paul Jr should have got all the bikes after all he designed fabricated and built all of them and Paul Jr was right Sr did get a nice house out of what Paul did.

[@islandofmisfittrains5114]

This was when they actually had stuff to buy in the showroom. Now more than half the place is filled with arcade games

[@cwatson42785]

Wait really? Lol

[@islandofmisfittrains5114]

@@cwatson42785 it was the last time we were there. Dont know how his new place is in florida

[@NWI_Steel]

Place is a storage unit facility now

[@dylandinkins9498]

I really like the build of the bike wan the show wan it was on tv

[@mattgaming8717]

All these yrs and I still see Jr as a child the way he acts. But whatever. It's just me.

[@lonnieclifton3883]

YOU ALWAYS ACT LIKE YOU GOT SOME SENSE GOOD WORK FROM LONNIE CLIFTON IN BOILING SPRING LAKES N.C.

[@Logjam5]

Good job boys.

[@darylbrookins4273]

Jr reached out to shake his dads hand....Sr is a jerk.....fame went to his head....he is not a humble person....

[@cwatson42785]

Says Jr didn't look him in the eye after he says he didn't even know what he said lol

[@RubinsRacing350]

Cheeseburgers outside the door😂

[@RandyBoBandy.]

What type of father resents his own sons talent and ability? Such a weird thing.

[@Shawn-Leider]

Junior is such a Baby. Like going thru that place to get a bike WAS SUCH A TRAUMATIC EVENT like WTF. They “set him up”. Bro WHAT?

[@mo89634]

Heartbreaking how much money can you want family is way more important he’ll understand when someone dies

[@Jerbsinator]

Sr. jerks him around and then gets mad that Paulie didn't look him in the eye? Well gee I wonder why.

[@Onxy1976]

Vinnie was always nice to Sr ....Sr disrespected him and didn't pay Vinnie for tons of OT. And Vinnie was a little upset but didn't push for money..Sr is demonstrative and bitter...he is always the victim mentality

[@boybawang1981]

Senior is just a horrible human and even more horrible father....cuz when her heard about PJD, he was yapping about how Jr.'s business will fail and that he hoped it failed!!

[@fourleafcloveer5011]

Sr is just like my dad. identical! except not on tv and broke

[@alweinhofer5453]

Actually they are identical.

[@fourleafcloveer5011]

@@alweinhofer5453 eh what? Do you know my dad?

[@alweinhofer5453]

@@fourleafcloveer5011 I was only saying Paul Sr. is broke and no longer on tv. I don't think I know your dad .

[@fourleafcloveer5011]

@@alweinhofer5453 Okay. I was confused. haha. Either way you're not wrong.