American Fighting style - War Thunder - For All American Fighters, this tactic applies XD

[@uncletimo6059]

LOL, are you kidding? Players yolo at 1000 metres, die, and then scream at me that I didn't do anything at minute 6 in the match (while I am the last one alive in a Murican team). Have an upvote though, you tried.

[@GreenFuryGaming]

this was a different time, when the US were given new fighters and buffs, it goes the same to other nations, when gaijin gives a nation something new, good players go to that nation to try it out. its just a cycle of behavior in war thunder

[@uncletimo6059]

ohaiii dere I came back after ohhhh 3 years and restarted yesterday. Nothing has changed. NOTHING. American teams suck, american planes are worse. Teamkiller every 5th game or so. Idiot train diving after 1 suiciding bomber on a base with 5 guys from my team losing alt to chase it. Every game I am uptiered, i.e. find enemy team waaaay above me with machines 1-2 years more advanced. Game punishes good players and well performing airplanes. So you get situations of prop fighters competing with Korean war jets o_0 I actually TRY to do this tactic ("git'em down, boys!") because it is THE only sensible thing. Thing with murican planes is they do not climb at all, they do not turn at all, many of them do not dive well at all (zeroes can out-dive inititially!!!), and many do not roll well. Gaijin has "sekrit" sources which they do not share with the community on the forums which make murican planes into flying bricks. Meanwhile soviet machines are UFO's, totally unrealistic. .... No, I am not bitter, why do you ax ? ;-D

[@GreenFuryGaming]

yeah I love my p51d30, i don't fly it at all lol, its too depressing being in US teams at the moment

[@uncletimo6059]

Broski, it has ALWAYS been like this. "american teams suck" has been a meme since WT started (and I know, I was there). Problem is that playerbase flying soviet, german, japan is as retarded, so why is USA so bad? Meta of game is lawn mowing - climb thunder followed by dogfight at low alt. Remember historical battles back in the day? There was one mission "defend bombers" where American heavy bombers (B17, B29) started waaay high, covered by stangs.... versus german me262 and high level props. Very asymetrical mission, uneven number of planes, REALISTIC, HISTORICAL, ******FUN****** and at alt that WW2 american and german planes fought over Western Europe. So of course gaijoob took historical battles out and left us with one (1) type of air rb mission. Every mission is same. Wut..... no, I am still NOT bitter ;-D Git off my lawn !

[@tabuu4239]

@@uncletimo6059 if only you knew what would come

[@wholedaybig]

so the tactic is... to play in team... lol

[@wholedaybig]

(in this bubble gum chewing accent) "these guys... we understand how this game... how american planes should be played" lol dude, really good comedy, but take it as a compliment, you have my subscribe tho

[@joshsanchez66]

@@wholedaybig bubble gum chewing got me dead😂😂😂 that part came up right when I read this too lmfaoo

[@onecheman]

Still today, and after so many good tactics like your videos, all what my allied teams do is turnfight everything... Yo Green, hope you are safe and sound man, I dont see activity in the channel since 5 months ago. Take care with Covid19!

[@Spectification]

The selflesness required for this is beyond most US teams at this point in time which is a shame really... :/

[@uncletimo6059]

yeahhhh... I am flying RB USA now. it doesn't help that russian bias team modelled murican planes on.... don't know, numbers pulled outta their ass, as F4U historically ate Zeroes for breakfast but F4U, P38 are cows, less agile than bombers. American planes do not climb well, many do not dive well (!!!), definitely do not turn and many do not roll well (!!!).

[@csd2168]

@@uncletimo6059 did you even watch this video.

[@Jupiter__001_]

@@uncletimo6059 It's all those burgers mate.

[@brandonstrife9738]

@@Jupiter__001_ You ever wonder why the numbers in warthunder are the exact opposite of the numbers from the war. Think about it.

[@Jupiter__001_]

@@brandonstrife9738 I'm not quite sure what you mean.

[@crazymoe3776]

American tree has some great planes contrary to the belief that american planes suck especially since the 1.7 project x patch which took away everyone's favorite P-47 air spawn and also buffed the CNN damage so now they actually do damage when they hit. there are a couple of reasons that the american win rate is so shitty and some of the main ones are that in most matches the american players don't work together and that they don't try to climb to get even a bit of alt and they all freaking dive at the first low flyer they see and lastly they try to turn-fight when there is no way they can out turn most German/Japanese/Italian planes. american planes are energy fighters that are meant to go fast take shots and if u miss you are supposed to climb back up and then try again not try and out turn them.

[@mar61182]

nice video Fury... only one problem... its hard finding a squad mate that plays like this extremely rare... nonetheless great video/tutorial as always keep up the good work

[@GreenFuryGaming]

Come and fly out with us buddy, I finished doing high altitude testing on some of the fighters, So its its alot more relaxing, add my name Green_fury , or come to our discord page discord.gg/CAQWgUj

[@mar61182]

thx man , i appreciate that, but for the record, i'm no way near as good as you guys are i'm still trying to learn as much as possible

[@preston8075]

@@GreenFuryGaming I would pay you for lessons u have not posted in 2y but ur one of the best I have ever seen and you know so much I just want to be like you

[@doch.8039]

Thought the most American tactic was to call in air strikes on everything in existence

[@ryanbroguy]

_I need an airstrike on Doc H.'s location!_

[@joshuaosentoski5994]

No american teams do this ever

[@puffyharpseal]

2024 Update: American players still need to watch this video more. But, thank you for the advice, it helps me a lot!

[@SkipToMyLou_]

good point!! but..... remember when U were spading /n grinding for those new planes? :)))) think is there is a good portion of players in the game that r acually grinding or spading whatever they playing so , my point is that , in every game, U gonna get players that going for thoose easy ground units regardless of an outcome. He just wants that extra point to unlock his engine etc :).......

[@SkipToMyLou_]

good flyin'nnn Kiwi. what im getting at is : as well as teaching how to kill , we should most of all teach each other how to play as a team , for example just had a game in b17 with my m8, there were 2 more b17 next to us , instead of replaying to us , they decided to play like there in a stuka's and rather steeply dive to drop their load. in the end we all got rekt instead of staying together and fighting with more power, do u know what i mean?

[@abrahamedelstein4806]

5:20 A lot more Faster/Better Take a long walk off a short pier.

[@jessiepontino8905]

Dude.. do this tactics works against german??

[@jessiepontino8905]

I am having a hard time fighting german with d30 becuz the german can outrun or outdive you... please make a tutorial against german

[@GreenFuryGaming]

Yes it does, don't let the enemy get close to you, start a shallow dive when they are around 1.5 to 2 km away, Remember we have engine power and top speed, but they do have initial acceleration, but they also compress at high alts, and at high speeds, their cannon velocity is too slow to really do any damage. Find a team mate that knows this type of technique, so he can back you up XD

[@Zach-sv7ej]

I gain altitude over my enemies then drop down on the stray who leaves the pack

[@audi1ification]

@@GreenFuryGaming thanks, german player. 🤣

[@ignooant6450]

POV: you are playing war thunder and you are playing your best and then you get sniped by an aaa gun

[@agravemisunderstanding9668]

Remember the slower a plane is moving the faster it's engine overheats

[@Vincy1Gamerl]

1- get a friend 2- u remeber u got no friend

[@mar61182]

Hey Fury if you get a chance can you do a video on how to take fight against the G55 . thx in advance for your help.

[@GreenFuryGaming]

ahh mate, Myself, hans and Van sinn, we flew up against G55s and G56s in our P51d30...same tactic we used....it worked...its just I didn't record it :P

[@sebaleal3081]

OMG your videos are aweosome!

[@kiwidiesel]

Fury have you flown the firecrest and your thoughts if you have please.

[@ikazuchi-san5772]

TL:DR.: Dont ground pound make the enemy ground pound instead

[@shanriazee78]

So you wait for Kiwi and you don't hit a single target at all? LOL

[@jercki72]

I tried doing that with the F4F :(

[@AE-ki3rw]

f

[@pavloklyuchnyk2086]

Is there a way to effectively use a F4f? Thanks!

[@sule.A]

Ise it like a zero

[@risingsun9595]

So it seems like this would be possible, but much harder solo

[@reitairue2073]

Totally possible for us, just use your teammates like they are in your squad. Feed them the enemy and they will find the easy kills. It's what American teams do, tunnel vision on a flaming half dead enemy lmfao.

[@TheStig_TG]

@@reitairue2073 So to recap the video, Climb to the enemy and spot them for your team then shallow dive away to get them low for your team then turn around and help your team?

[@reedgraff2465]

Please do one for the other countries

[@kombatace7971]

You are real good, i would not fight you

[@MrLunchHour2]

The problem with US is flying alone. 95% of people who fly US planes are dumb as hell and don’t know how to side climb, but if your flying a squad of 4 mustangs who know what they’re doing, game over hahaha

[@marifipontino5642]

dude... how can j2m catch me. i do the same thing, shallow dive and run.. my speed is 500 and the j2m just catch me

[@marifipontino5642]

dude.. he try to head-on me but i avoid it.. and he turn to me so that means he has lost speed but he still catch up with me... and yes, my team are already dead, only me and the p47 is alive

[@marifipontino5642]

okkay man thxx

[@ethan3246]

Use MEC( Manual Engine Control) to get the most of the engine

[@janespright]

:O Amazing

[@bring6not12]

I've been using the 2nd tier plane that has rockets and killing planes with them pretty consistently with this strategy just gotta get real close lol

[@arturovargas4489]

América planes, good velocity but poor Turn and bad roll

[@jonathanfernando6537]

in this stupid game pick american only if u want jets cause the props are dogshit.all this teamwork mubojambo happens only once in a lifetime although i will save this........american fighters (specially p51s) have amazing survivabilty u can save ur plane but ultimatly u will keep loosing matches untill u find other matches with a decent team

[@cheshireycat9246]

P-51D-30 versus a team of Oscars, Zeros! Your own words! >Look how easily we can get away... We are faster than them! No hecking shit! There were maybe couple of competitive plane on the opposition team against your P-51D-30, there was the A7M2 and the J2M versus multiple P-51s; no wonder you had such an easy time. If it had been a team of Ki-84s, N1K2, Ki-83 and J7W planes actually capable of matching the P-51D and you had succeeded in show casing this flying; then maybe you would have content worth sharing. All you have showcased is how easy it is to be a scrub in a P-51D if you posses two brain cells. Then you decide that is not enough and spread misinformation about the performance of Japanese planes! Contrary to your statement that! *Japanese planes drop performance below 3 km* They don't this is the altitude they were intended to perform at and barring supercharger change over areas Japanese planes are strongest below 5 km. This blatant misinformation and showcasing your basic lack of understanding about planes performance, what you are not see is performance drop off below 3 km. What you are in fact see is the opposition Japanese fighters trading altitude in dives in an attempt to catch up with the *stupidly* undertiered P-51D, thus lowering their energy versus your own, gradually weakening their position; each time they do this unless they climb to regain altitude. Its not even that hard a concept to grasp but you seem to complete miss it.

[@GreenFuryGaming]

lol...i flown the P51 D30 out over 2200 times, I have fought the Japaneses through multiple patches, two things that the Japanese doesn't have, and that is energy retention and top end speed. I have flown out with other youtubers and pilots who are better than me, and they all use this tactic. When Messer Smitt used to fly I seen him use this tactic over and over. all I'm doing is gathering the information and putting it out there for players to use. p51d30 is faster than the ki 84s, N1ks, I dont think the J7w fights tier 4 american planes, it fights f8fs...i think. also I made a video about how 2 P51D30s cleaned up a team of 4-5 N1ks and A7m's in a video in the past using the exact same tactic.

[@cheshireycat9246]

What are you loling about? The fact that you have flown the P-51D 2,200 times? Congratulation I guess, I have flown the Me410 over 2,000 times should I be loling too? No hecking shit, this is how you fly the P-51D, its not a hecking spitfire; you dense heck! I will break it down so you can understand what I am saying more clearly: 1. I am not debating the effectiveness of the tactics employed in this scrubby clubfest of a video. 2. I am pointing out that the P-51D is a hecking joke at its BR (something I do ad nauseam) 3. I am pointing out blatant misinformation about Japanese planes performance. 4. I am pointing out what is actually happening over the course of the match, as you drag the opposition fighters lower, you are lowering their energy relative to you; not moving them into a low performance zone for their planes. (Frankly I am a little appalled you made this video and got this so wrong). Yes, the P-51D certain has the edge over these fighters but its a damn sight fairer than fighting against a team of Oscars and Zeros; actually using the P-51D effectively against relatively equal oppsition of Ki-84 and N1K2s is actually a challenge. So you are actually capable of producing content worth watching then? Why the heck didn't you showcase that

[@loveusall7464]

He's laughing at you, people who are watching this, is laughing at you. Do you know why? this is a PC game, its not a serious subject I looked at your stats, you flown the me410 out like 400 times..... I mainly fly Japanese and Russian Fighters, what he is saying is correct about Japanese fighters, after fighting for a period of time in lower altitude at high speeds, our engines do heat up thus causing performance to drop off, Its not bad as in couple of the previous patches. So what part of, Japanese fighters "Engines overheat", when fighting in lower altitude at high speeds, for a duration of time, don't you understand? He is exploiting our energy retention and higher top end speed, American fighters climb better at high speeds, not the Japanese. Also he mentioned a video he created where 2 P51's fights a team of N1k's and A7m's, I seen that video, they do the same tactics as what he mentions here. There is another video that shows this tactic being done by F4U1C's "So you are actually capable of producing content worth watching than? Why the heck didn't you showcase that" are you kidding me? most of Green's, Kiwis and Van Sinn's contents on point very accurate and they show us amazing footage we can learn from. Players like you are disgusting, don't you know how to criticises someone or something without sounding like a complete tool, maybe your too dense to understand that.

[@JoshFisk]

Take your wannabe troll noobness to the juno guest server little pleb

[@jessiepontino8905]

Cheshireycat wtf dude why are you angry at him because the plane is underteired... he only made a tutorial video how to use the plane agaisnt enemies fighter that fight it most... it is not his problem at all.. go to gaijin and protest to raise its br not complaining to a tutorial video..

[@tomcat9727]

Its a rubbish and biased game, no fun anymore. The thing is, if u want to have fun in a plane, u need to waste like 10-20 minutes climbing, baiting your teammates and than just camp in high alt eventually dive and see whats what. Thats no skill for me, thats just big waste of time, I am sorry.

[@GreenFuryGaming]

its true bro, i agree with u

[@tomcat9727]

@@GreenFuryGaming Nothing against u, I just got ultimately pissed playing the new sweedish mustang today.