American reacts to Netherlands Police Chase

[@dyslexicLLM]

Dutch police has one of the highest approval rating in the world. They are highly trained, very friendly and experts in de-escalating conflicts. Of course if you push your luck they will respond appropriatly.

[@vincentsgames9876]

Even though I’m Dutch, I didn’t know that

[@krishellemans-i8u]

@@vincentsgames9876 Same for Belgium , French and German that is why it's not so special for us .

[@rogamernl3894]

well sadly they aren't as trained as they want to be because of budget cuts by the former leaders of the netherlands.

[@rogamernl3894]

and they're permissions have been cut short due to people saying they use too much force even tough most of these incidents involve getting hit or called horrible names first. even death threats. because of cellphones all around they get filmed from the point they do something. not when they get injured or shot at. only when the police officers use force.

[@jolanjump]

​@@krishellemans-i8unever trust Belgian cops. They are 'pigs'. Not all of them. But German and Dutch police are nice and just 99% of the time.

[@Bramfly]

Dutch police are very well trained, police academy is 4 years. Proud of our 🇳🇱 police forces.

[@Sam-pv7bd]

What about the event that happened recently?

[@eskiltester3913]

​@@Sam-pv7bdwhat event? The pali terrorist supporters? Police should act even harder. Police are limited too much and should get more freedom to act.

[@TheColehabo]

@@Sam-pv7bd what event?

[@lws7394]

The Maccabi Tel Aviv extreme right wing Hooligans that , after the game against Ajax, started rioting , with citizens , with police ... Not so much ... The thing was that a lot of media made it appear as if it were only muslims who were chasing israelis ..

[@AlbertZonneveld]

The Hooligans were not the big issue. The police can handle that. Of course there will be some conflict but that is wht the police knows how to handle. What was new was Muslims organising chases with scooters and taxi's on Tel Avivi supporters all over the city. Not just fighting with Maccabi hooligans but also chasing jewish famlies and women. Literally Informing each other on social media where they could hit jewish people. Things that were organised in advance.

[@darkknight8139]

Everytime the Dutch police uses a weapon, this has to be logged and has to be judged by an official independent special police force ('rijksrecherche'). A gun is a weapon obviously, but a police car is also considered a weapon. In these clips, the suspects were either under the influence of something bad, or were armed and dangerous (3:54, 7:24), or are in a psychosis like in the first clip. Funny, you say at 5:06 that the cop could say "put your face on the pavement". He does, at 5:10 he says "naar beneden blijven kijken", "keep looking down".

[@Houtblokje]

Also, in the first clip they were driving against traffic and they were going towards the highway, which could've killed people..

[@user-ie6jr4bg1w]

This is very far from the truth. 99% of force is examined by the assistant district attorney

[@DwaallichtjeM]

Dutchie here. Not speeding in NL is smart because the fines are ridiculously high, not because police is that scary 😂. Most officers are (and I assume this is the same where you live) actually kind, even helpful. But do stupid things, win stupid prizes... 😊

[@Thog25]

I think the kindness of the police really depends on the area ! I live in a small city where the biggest crime is drunk and disorderly so the police are just like : dude we will take you home. But on of my friend is a cop in Brussels and he says that sometimes his colleagues try to escalate the situation to get more fines

[@awaterplease7885]

I just use Flitsmeister to avoid fines 😉

[@Wrecker3D]

@@Thog25 escalate for more fines AKA hitting this months quota 🤣

[@DwaallichtjeM]

​@@Thog25 Brussels = BE ;). But I agree: depends. Also depends on how long they are in service. Vut still: 99% of police I encountered were friendly :).

[@DwaallichtjeM]

​@@awaterplease7885hahaha, ja, maar een toerist vast niet... en eerlijk is eerlijk: elke Nederlander rijdt wel eens te hard.

[@twanzwart]

Those are all pretty old videos. If you want to see a more recent crazy chase in good quality, check out this one by their official channel. It has 2.3M views: Politieachtervolging | Mercedes AMG | Verdachte aangehouden | + 250 km/u

[@dtoandre]

In 4:55 I loved the "In Netherlands don't mess arround ... not too much". I'm a Portuguese but now, in Europe, Police is getting toughter (and it's right, because before they were too quiet) and now it's great, it's getting safer to walk in cities at night etc But the Netherlands police is one of the best in the world and also one of the most humane. At general, Police in Europe is good. Continue the good work

[@stuborn-complaining-german]

8:00 Those camera angles are from the traffic cams. Administration / police can tap into the and control them to assist in cases like this. The operator is telling the police chasing the SUV where they are going and what they are doing...

[@Wrecker3D]

not only traffic cams, there are many surveillance cams, meant to help with crowd control and faster response times/perpetrator(s) tracking, they'll likely even see you hit/stab someone and track you across town, it's like having a chopper in the air, without the fuel cost, closed airspace, searchlights and take off time

[@stuborn-complaining-german]

Yes, you're absolutely right, I meant surveilance cameras, not just traffic...

[@Liggliluff]

And this is what cameras in the public are for; identifying crimes and assisting emergency vehicle. I hear the argument that cameras don't stop crime, which is true, but that's not what they're for. Identifying and assisting, that's what they're for.

[@BurnCorpoStuff]

European police can shoot to disable, but it's always a discresion in the moment kinda thing. But leg shots do happen here. Also all European police carry firearms except if they're some special roles who might not be qualified. Only UK has that standard where they don't. Most police have access to rifles in their cars or something like that for emergencies.

[@RedFighterNL]

In the case with the Land Rover, they opened fire because the driver suddenly reversed and note that he or she crashed into a police car earlier as well

[@Scarletraven87]

Also, european police forces tend to to quickly escalate to automatic weapons when things get vaguely serious. For example, here in Italy with random traffic stops you might see a submachinegun as deterrent to misconduct. The officer holding it is never the one to walk at your car window, he keeps checking the incoming traffic. The tool is never pointed, never fired, but present.

[@RedFighterNL]

I have never seen that in the Netherlands, sub machine guns are only used by the special units within the police such as the "arrestatieteam". I think our border guards / customs can have them as well but I am sure someone knows much more about this than I do 😅

[@tihomirrasperic]

the regular Croatian police have a pistol and a rubber baton as standard and from the long armament they had 2x AK-47 in the car (I don't know if they switched to VHS2 or something else now)

[@margaretdillon225]

Irish police not armed, only Special units I think

[@Bramfly]

Ryan take a look at Dutch special police unit DSI (Special Intervention Department) videos. They really don’t mess around and are very heavily armed.

[@eskiltester3913]

They're considered the best in the world. Search some American special forces youtube channels that talk about it. They praise the DSI

[@wannes9125]

Just in case this is different in the US: The reason that they did not pit at first, but then went for a pit later is safety reasons. You don't know how the driver will respond to a pit and at the time the driver is mostly just a danger to themselves so they pursue. When the driver went into oncoming traffic at the off-ramp, at that point the speed of all traffic including the suspect is relatively low, on top if the driver manages to make it onto the highway they will create a situation many times more dangerous than a pit. Additionally when a driver has shown a tendency to be dangerous like the off-ramp move, police will take an opening like an opportunity to ram them at low speeds more because they want to remove the driver before he finds another dangerous situation to create. In general especially for smaller crimes they won't be ramming of the bat usually. Also the reason they normally won't shoot at you unless you are a direct danger to someone else I've also seen chases in the UK, where the UK police chooses to stop the pursuit when a reckless driver drives into densely populated areas. Without the police on the tail, the suspect will drive more carefully to avoid attention rather than speed through every turn driving into a family on the sidewalk or in their car It's always nice to see in videos like these that they make these decisions in favor of the safety of the public first and foremost

[@AnimilesYT]

I'm Dutch, and the Dutch police are very friendly and well trained in de-escalation. As long as you cooperate there's nothing to be afraid of. If you run away from them then they will come after you and tackle you. And if you run away in a car, then they will stop you as soon as possible. However, there have also been cases where the risk of the chase has not been worth it, so they gave up and used a helicopter to follow the target

[@dennisschouten6580]

Hebben we gezien tijdens de corona demo's ...romeo's etc etc..aangiften die niet gedaan worden ,politiegeweld gestegen..ongewapende burgers doodschieten..afgezakt net als alles in dit land

[@MikaHoogland]

True

[@darkknight8139]

At 9:20 you say that in America, the police are only supposed to shoot if they are trying to kill you. If someone is killed by a police officer in The Netherlands, the officer will be sent to court and will be judged for murder. The officer can be prosecuted, depending on the situation. This has actually happened in the past. The police only shoots to immobilize the target, by first shooting in the air and then aiming for the legs for instance, never the torso or head.

[@Audulf-of-Frisia]

Yeah that has set a VERY dangerous precendent. Now the police is more afraid of going to jail for doing the right thing than ever before. Result? The violence against the police has increased. Secondary result? The safety of the public has decreased.

[@GresSimJa]

Yep. In this case, the officers shot the Range Rover in order to stop it.

[@machinist2547]

Not true….

[@phobos.anomaly]

That's a bit over the top. Look up the article (in Dutch) _"Agent leert in nood juist op de borst te schieten en niet op de benen: gaat er iemand door dood, dan volgt zelden een straf"_ from the Amsterdam Free University. The title translates as _"Officers in distress are tought to shoot the torso, not the legs. If the target dies, officers are rarely sentenced."_ _"If someone is killed by a police officer in The Netherlands, the officer will be sent to court and will be judged for murder."_ That's completely wrong. If they shoot someone (lethally or not), the situation will always be investigated thoroughly by a dedicated department (rijksrecherge). However, they are only prosecuted if that investigation concludes that the officer should not have used his weapon. According to the article, that happens in about 10% of cases. Half of the prosecutions never make it to court, and for the ones that do, about a third result in a conviction. Officers are not tried for murder in such cases, but usually for (attempted) manslaughter. No, that's not the same. _"The police only shoots to immobilize the target, by first shooting in the air and then aiming for the legs for instance, never the torso or head."_ Also not true. From the article, translated by me: _"The prosecutor always checks if the use of a weapon was necessary in the situation. Police may fire on a suspect who is fleeing from arrest [by me: only for suspect of violent crimes]. In that case they should aim for the legs. It's different if they use their gun in self defence. In that case, they're taught to aim for the biggest target: the torso."_ All in all, the bar for police to draw their weapon here is a lot higher than it is in the US, and police bullets are investigated rather seriously. But it's not nearly as extreme as you suggest. In most cases, the usage of police weapons is deemed justified and there's no conviction.

[@TheCloggydoggy]

@@phobos.anomaly A few years ago in Den Haag, an officer WAS tried for murder.

[@CoL_Drake]

shooting to kill could still be considered manslaughter here often ... you shoot to disable, so you try to shot the legs most often. there was a hostage taking here the guy had a knife and after hours of negotiation and he was away with teh knife from the hostage for a second a sniper shot directly in his knee ... sooo ... doesnt sound pleasent as well having your knee blown away by a sniper nbut at least he aint dead

[@eskiltester3913]

Dutch police usually doesn't shoot the legs but straight to the body to permanently disable the threat. Shooting the legs in many cases is lethal too. This ain't the movies

[@brkly99]

They are very helpful, but also don’t fool around. There was a hostage taking at an Apple Store in Amsterdam a few years ago. One of the hostages managed to escape, and the hostage taker chased. He was immediately and violently taken out by a police car - he went flying through the air. He died a few days later. It was clear this was what the police were very well trained, they reacted instantly and effectively to the situation.

[@lesouvage]

A couple of years ago I was stopped by three police cars / 6 cops in Assen (the TT-city) while walking back home in the middle if the night after a nice music evening at a local bar. It scares the hell out of me the first seconds because it was very intimidating and overwhelming but I was treated very well. I seemed to be a look alike of someone they where searching very urgently. After checking my ID, with my hands in the air and legs spread, they friendly wish me a good walk back home and a good weekend. They acted like they were supposed to do, well trained and without any violence or threat and just got my heartbeat up for a while. You are right: Don't mess around, and do what you are told to do in that kind of situation.

[@stefanroseboom]

They shoot in the air just as a warning shot! Love youre channel!

[@femkeklijn4802]

Dutch police is nice to you if you are nice to them. Use your manners. Say please and so on. Live by the low and you have now problems.

[@firefox3187]

As it should be every where, not the “respect my atharaty” Cartman cop’s like the US

[@snoepnr1]

Most of the videos are made in my city, you aked how they got the camera angle. we have a city covering network of cameras so the olice can instantly follow the cars in all the streets to inform the cops if needed. And they are not scary, they actually are very calm and frienly most of the time. i somehow think non of these chases where for just speeding haha

[@arthur_p_dent]

1:00 we drive on the right side of the road in all of continental Europe. The only countries that drive ont he left are islands, Britain and dependencies (except Gibraltar, which is on the continent and where they drive on the right), Ireland, Cyprus, Malta.

[@AussieFossil]

Vehicles use the left side in 78 countries.

[@arthur_p_dent]

@@AussieFossil yes, but none of them is in continental Europe.

[@KettenSyndicate]

@@AussieFossil you're correct but I presume Arthur was just talking about Europe. Most left side driving countries are in Africa, Asia and the Pacific.

[@vukkingdingbat5184]

I think Ryan has no clue where to find the Netherlands on a world map.

[@athosaegon]

my street was completely blocked by police last week around like 9pm (some fight escalated real bad and ppl were threatened etc, usually never happens here but what can ya do), and they were so nice. I was on my way to the park to go for a run but the insane police presence kinda spooked me (3 vans, 5+ cars, 3 cops at every alley entrance) so I walked up to one of them and asked if it was safe to go to the park for a run, and he told me that it was completely okay and to do my best during my run 😂 love dutch police, they’re so chill yet so skilled

[@amberflokstra88]

How are cops in NL scary? Compared to the US, it was all calm and collected. Watch any video in from the US where a firearm is involved, and the suspect gets riddled with bullets. In NL they control the situation and talk you down. And arrest you. Maybe fire a few warning shots. Shoot to kill/subdue is a last resort here. The ramming videos were all very short clips from much longer videos. Ramming is only allowed if the situation calls for it. The cops’ response needs to be proportional to the force the suspect exhibits. The reason the car in the first ramming video was rammed was because he was going onto a highway, the wrong way. The choice was to ram him, of probably him going head first into oncoming traffic. The second ramming clip was a suspect who already rammed other vehicles. If you’re just making a “normal” traffic infraction, and you treat the cops like the human beings they are, you won’t have a problem. If the infraction wasn’t too bad and you’re not rude or belligerent you might even get off with a warning.

[@jokethejokejoker]

Hi, I am dutch and I will explain the senarios for you. The first two were rammed quickly because of the danger the suspect was creating. At the first one, the suspect was going into the wrong direction onto the highway. The second one, the same thing was happening but on a local ish street. The one where shots were fired is one of the few in the last 10 years. The cops rarely fire shots here in the netherlands, If shots are fired it is normaly only one, let alone the 6 / 7 shots that happened then.

[@LalaDepala_00]

"Aangehouden, denk ik... dankjewel!" As a Dutchie this made me laugh 😂 The radio operator says "Arrested, I think... thanks!"

[@RedFighterNL]

Yeah that was an interesting response from the operator 😂

[@Tiger313NL]

The Range Rover was stolen from the police impound yard, the shots fired took out it's tyres when the perp got stuck trying to enter a narrow side street at speed. He backed up to get away from the obstacle, then the cops fired at the tyres of the vehicle. Driving off again, the perp saw the other side of the street blocked by police cars as well, so he gave up. He was taken into custody unharmed. The last video: police is breaching a house in order to search it. There's several people in the house. Then they spot a firearm.

[@yuanfurbax]

Funfact: Police dogs, even usamerican k9's are dutch shepherds

[@christopherhines2718]

sorry wrong fact! dutch sheperds are not normaly police dogs here the dutch shepherd is what it says it is thats the name of the breed and some are used by police A dutch shepherd is a close relative of what you call a belgian malinios and in netherlands is called a mechellse herder but they are not the same dutch sheperds are smaller than belgian malinios and a different colour a kind of spekelled dark green/brown brindle colour character is also different dutch sheperds not reccomended for families even a bit more bad attitude than a malinios(mechells herder) just to explain about the different names belgian mallinios so a belgian dog from a region called malline mechelse herder is just the dutch translation mechellen is a city within the region of malline. its also nicknames malinios- malligator mechellse herder-mechellar So there well maybe a few dutch sheperds in netherlands police service,such as there are many other breeds just about any breed you can think of for sniffer dogs drug dogs etc, But the Dogs you would see with dutch police for serious work are 99% mechellse herders AKA belgian malinios.

[@Theunknownphilosopher]

I’m a U.S. citizen who has had the privilege of living in several European countries, including over 20 years in the Netherlands. Out of all the places I’ve called home, the Netherlands stands out as one of the best. One of the things that impresses me most is the professionalism and approachability of the Dutch police-they might just be some of the nicest in the world. I remember an incident near our neighborhood where the police had to chase down an armed criminal. They managed to subdue him with a shot to the backside-effective but non-lethal. In the U.S., that same situation might have ended far more tragically. Even the way Dutch police train their dogs reflects their focus on minimizing harm. Instead of biting, their dogs are trained to grab onto a person’s clothing, which shows a thoughtful commitment to de-escalation. These kinds of practices are just one of the many reasons I admire life in the Netherlands.

[@CallioNyx]

The situation at 7:40-ish, I think it was the police alerting that 'shots fired' - as in, the driver? had fired towards the police. That's why everyone went guns out+cover. I think. I might be wrong. And yeah, they don't kid around. However, in compilations like this you get the 'action shots', not the buildup; it's hard to tell on some of those rams at first wether they had a long buildup. I suspect dutch police doesn't ram cars off the road at the first hint of an infraction.

[@AdvdW]

The first shot was not from the police force. The suspect was shooting. At that moment the police grabbed their guns. The Dutch police force is well trained and the main priority is to de-escalate a situation.

[@anniehope8651]

In the one with the Range Rover they don't shoot because he's trying to reverse and/or possible deadly force. They shoot because they know who is in that car and that he is dangerous. I believe they think he is armed. If this were a random car with a random person in it, police wouldn't act this way. By the way, black Range Rover are typical high-end criminal cars.

[@gijsw8681]

I would say that in The Netherlands it is way more common for police to NOT hit someone while shooting, they call it a “waarschuwingschot” or like a shot to scare you and warn you of the danger you are in, i almost never hear of the police actually shooting a person but they do fire their gun sometimes. It could also have been with a rubber bullet too which makes it even less deathly.

[@ManuelSteiner]

Austrian gun-owner here. These shots were clearly from a real handgun, likely a 9mm Sig Sauer, Walther or something. They also have rubber bullet guns but that's not the norm, at least in Austria. But those were real shots.

[@justus6828]

these are very old, there's so many new, very interesting videos on youtube that is 300% worth watching

[@ex-serpenttheexserpent]

in the Netherlands, city centers (specially shopping areas),are monitored by Dutch police security cameras. that is how they filmed that SUV.

[@RazorNLD]

08:55 funny thing is alot of police dogs used in the US were actually trained in Europe, especially the Netherlands back in the day. I don't know if that is still the case today but.

[@randar1969]

Something to realize too, no qualified immunity for cops here. Hence everytime they fire their gun a branch of the militairy will do an investigation if their actions where to serve and protect the population. If they kill an unarmed person they will have to face a judge and will get jail time if found at fault.

[@phobos.anomaly]

_"Something to realize too, no qualified immunity for cops here. Hence everytime they fire their gun a branch of the militairy will do an investigation if their actions where to serve and protect the population."_ True! But the investigation is not performed by the military (I think you're referring to the Marechaussee?), but the Rijksrecherche, a specialized government investigation service that serves to fight government-related corruption and police misconduct. The closest US analogy would probably be the FBI. _"If they kill an unarmed person they will have to face a judge and will get jail time if found at fault."_ Not necessarily, it depends on the situation. For example, if the investigation concludes that the officer reasonably believed someone was armed, the use of lethal force may be justified. If you're interested, look up the article _"Agent leert in nood juist op de borst te schieten en niet op de benen: gaat er iemand door dood, dan volgt zelden een straf"_ by the Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam; it provides some interesting facts about these things. It actually talks of a 2022 case of an officer who killed someone who was violent but was ultimately found to be unarmed. The officer was not convicted. And when convictions do happen, as far as I can tell it's usually fairly light sentences (e.g. community service) when it is a somewhat understandable error in judgment in a difficult situation.

[@anniehope8651]

In the first video they bump the car because it's taking an exit to enter a highway, so in a minute he would be a wrong-way driver on the highway. That could have killed people, so they really had to do something. . The officer is saying:"Wrong-way onto the highway, that's not good." And seconds later he bumps him. I like how cool the officer sounds. Another one is less cool and says 'Goddammit'.

[@autogyro333]

I'm Dutch and we drive on the right side of the road. At least the normal people, Audi and BMW drivers are always on the left lane and apperently gas is very expensive for them so they have to be in your tow all the time. The police here is very relaxed in general UNTIL you go too far then they know how to handle you. No strange things with corruption, abduction etc just police work. If you respect the police you will not have any issue with them.

[@dezegames1699]

Small detail, dutch police can fire warning shots. There's been multiple situations where there were fake guns involved and Dutch cops are trained to fire warning shots first unless there is a real immanent threath. Also firing at vehicles is considered in chases where the vehicle is too dangerous to continue driving and there is no obvious way to stop the vehicle by using other vehicles. E.g. a vehicle has 2 occupants who are suspested to be armed, then the best case scenario would be to try and disable vehicle parts like tires in order to force the driver to stop to then execute a so called BGTV, this is a technique where guns drawn the occupents of the vehicle are talked into exiting their vehicle otherwise lethal force is used.

[@arjanlenderink]

If an officer himself or another person is in mortal danger, the officer may decide to use his service weapon. Since the Range Rover tried to ram the police car(s) while reversing, it has endangered the officer(s) and they are authorized to use their weapon. Usually, one or more warning shots will be fired first and if you look closely at time 7.35 (in the original clip 5.43), you can clearly see that the officers fire these warning shots (into the air).

[@TSM-sr3yy]

I'm dutch so seeing police actually doing something useful in MY COUNTRY, Is awesome. The volume was too high though, And you should make the video flat on screen. It's very annoying that it's positioned like that in 3d space.

[@lauriemapplebeck1286]

In Amsterdam they are on horse back. My friend is Dutch and she took me to the Netherlands. She told me to watch the police. They have a lot of power!

[@professortrog7742]

The shots fired where due to the term that was used: BTGV, an acronym that translates as “approach technique dangerous suspect”

[@mariohendriks1]

This is the translation from the official Dutch Police website: "When can the police shoot? During a dangerous situation, the police always try to de-escalate. First, the officer uses his voice to get the suspect to do or not to do something. If this fails, the officer warns, if possible, that he is going to use force. If the officer decides to use force, the officer will consider whether and what means of force will be used. Depending on the situation, the officer estimates the type of force that is most proportionate. If an officer himself, or another person, is in mortal danger, the officer may decide to use his service pistol. In extreme cases, he can aim at a person's torso because it is necessary to disable it immediately. Targeting the legs is not effective in these cases and innocent victims may occur. These situations usually fall under the concept of self-defence. A judge will determine afterwards whether there was self-defence. If necessary, an officer may also use his firearm when arresting someone suspected of a serious offense. In those situations, the officer has learned to aim at the suspect's legs"

[@marce4241]

9:30, it's exactly the opposite here, mostly if dutch police shoot here, they try not to be lethal.

[@afcansf5996]

I miss the days when the Dutch police for a few decades drove Porsches 911's & 356' s. These things looked so badass.

[@rientsdijkstra4266]

That was only the special units for the highway. Normal police used VW beetles in these days.

[@dyslexicLLM]

I think that's why they replaced them. The cops driving them were too careful. No one would want to get a scratch on a Porsche.

[@Castropc]

I'm glad to find a country that still has proper sirens rather than the woowoo god awful sound the emergency services in the UK now make.

[@okbutthenagain.9402]

@Castropc . IF you are complaining about the noise UK sirens make. Then they are doing their job exactly as designed.

[@Castropc]

@@okbutthenagain.9402 So did the original ones. Were people becoming accustomed to the sound and ignoring them? Is that why they were changed?

[@Audulf-of-Frisia]

The funny thing is you are free to argue with the police in the Netherlands. Argue in the sense if you don't agree with something you can argue. They don't get mad (up until a certain point of course). There is no OBEY or we will take you to jail here. Except when you are one of the people in the video of course. That's taking things to far.

[@DaanBBA]

Dutch police don't typically perform the PIT maneuver. But they do have the training to do it if necessary. This is also shown in this video of the Dutch police, another on the fly PIT maneuver: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJXKp62Jj5qEZtk

[@JaapGinder]

Well, those video's werent't the newest ones, but it gives you an idea how police here in NL acts. But, mostly they are very friendly, but when you are caught when comitting a crime... well, that's something I'll never even try.

[@takamikakusha]

In general the police here in the netherlands don’t try to ram or pit cars unless they pose a danger to the police or public. In the first video they didn’t hit him until he tried to drive the wrong way onto the highway. The police also rarely shoot at anyone that isn’t armed (or believed to be). The shot fired in the range rover video was a warning shot (I think the people in the video were believed to be armed) fired up in the air.

[@CallioNyx]

I don't know - in a city, firing into the air means decent odds someone, somewhere, gets hit or property damage. Sure, it could happen, but I wouldn't expect that to be SOP.

[@NicoSteentjes]

This seems to me, to be regular arrests. More dangerous arrest are made by special trained / equipped arrest teams. They are stationed around the country and drive around in fast (German) unmarked cars. When they are on the move, the arrest is considered dangerous. These are supplemented by a special tam of the Dutch military police (they have civil duties also). In ultimate cases (like large scale terrorism, plane hijacts or on platforms in the North Sea), the Dutch Navy Marines have a special intervention unit - if needed complemented by Dutch Army special forces.

[@splitiris6494]

Aussie here, just so we are clear.. But many European cities have state cameras around to let the cops track suspects..

[@lowpoul5552]

I've witnessed some crazy things there in the Netherlands as a tourist. Like people trying to hook us on the highway showing us Can A b is and doing signs to follow them. Or in the pedestrian area of Amsterdam close to the red district, police cars diving like crazy into the crowd. These people are insane lol.

[@maggogieraffe3296]

only in holland

[@dyslexicLLM]

I don't believe you. Dutch police has one of the highest approval rating in the world. They are highly trained and don't just drive into a crowd. You really have to make an effort to get on their bad side, let alone get hit by one of their cars.

[@lowpoul5552]

@@dyslexicLLM LOL i managed to get hit twice by bicycles in Amsterdam. I am not used with the ringbells and the coffee and cookies of the morning did the situation worst. As a first timer of Amsterdam special cuisine, this was tough..

[@TonCKroon]

In the Netherlands, seeing a police officer pull a weapon is a rarity. It is rarely necessary. 62 years old, live in a large Dutch city, and have only seen it happen twice before my eyes. During a two-week visit to the US, I also witnessed a comparable situation twice. Maybe that was a huge coincidence... 🙂

[@Mikael.Lehrmann.Kashlev]

I recommend you watch "Victory Day / День Победы" It is a song about WW2, and it's very beautiful. Its was made to remember the fallen heroes of the Soviet Union. As a Russian myself I almost always cry when seen the video and hear the song.

[@KaoloDikkeHond]

i work at a mercedes dealer, and while i appreciate the police, they don't care about their car at all. had the same car come in 3 times in 5 weeks time for broken oil pans.

[@genevievearchbaker8604]

0:58 we dRive on the Right side of the road, and waLk on the Left (little trick I use to help my brain damage remember it despite living in the Netherlands 😅) 1:25 subtitles on what the cops are saying here: we have to stop him now, if he gets on the highway the damage will be huge (translated by my post migraine brain, might not be 100% accurate but its pretty much what theyre saying) then text on the screen: suspect is still trying to drive away, even when the officers are approaching after having forced the suspect off the road 2:31 text on screen: through the walkie-talkie theyre receiving information about the 4th suspect that ran off. The co-dricer knows exactly where to go and is navigating the driver. 3:11 officers shouting several times: stop running! Show me your hands! 3:57 can't really figure out what they said here other than ''now'' a few times when talking about using something/putting something to action 4:14 officer signalling to the car to just keep driving past them, not stay there. if the car stays there, it would block the police car if they have to jump in and race off. 4:34 depends which officers you ask. some yes, some no. my sister is studying, _can't remember the dutch or english word_ , well the officers who check traffic and parkings but higher than a meter maid (is it called meter maid or did my netflix series get that wrong?). either way, she won't have a gun or a taser or something like that. but I've seen plenty officers who do. so it really depends on what kind of officer you ask, but I've never looked into it so I might be off. 5:25 tekst: in the black car in front of them is an officer in civilian clothes. 5:34 tekst: the suspects ... are/be (hard to translate with the covered tekst). they start running and try to get away. 5:49 tekst: three out of four suspects are cuffed, colleagues .... (I'm guessing that's meant to be ''colleagues are chasing the 4th suspect'') 5:54 tekst: range rover drives into a police car that's blocking the road during a high speed chase 7:02 probably street cams 7:42 they can shoot at the tired rather than the driver, theoretically speaking. however, this suspect already slammed into a police car and went into a busy shopping road where cars arent even allowed... if I were an officer, I would just want to get him off the street, one way or another. 8:35 I cant help but think that that dog doesnt sound really scary... I just... can't help it XD welcome to my autistic brain focusing on something most people wouldnt notice or care about but is very important to me 9:00 I'm not sure what would scare me more... but then again, I can totally see myself not being scared at all and instead be confused by something like all officers having the top button of their shirt open except for one officer 9:45 I don't know much about it but my guess would be, that they want to avoid shooting a person at all costs. you need to stop the suspect and in this case, chasing through narrow streets, there's a high chance someone will get seriously injured if not killed and little opportunities to get in front of the car to stop it, especially considering they already rammed a police car out of the way. shooting the tires makes sense to me, it's harder to drive away without hurting anyone 10:15 I havent seen any continuation on that but from what I see: they're raiding a house and they find several people inside, then one officer spots a gun and calls it out. I think the point of showing this is just how organized they go in and with how many officers. if netflix is any representation of american cops (The Rookie & S.W.A.T.), they go in with waaayy fewer officers than the dutch police does. 10:28 YOU GOT TOYS?! I wanna plaaayy

[@renzwwww]

9:12 they did a warning shot I believe, in the air. It’s not very normal for Dutch officers to open fire at vehicles directly.

[@gerardflach2588]

Our Dutch police is friendly, helpful and relaxed. But if you find yourself at the wrong end of the law, you better run. Some of the best trained police forces in the world.

[@stefan0325]

4:40 dude all police are armed in Europe. In some countries it's just not all cops. Like in Germany, most City Police (Stadtpolizei) are not armed (except in Frankfurt and Offenbach). In England most "beat cops" are not armed, but there are still armed units. In Norway the police do not carry a weapon on their person, but they do have a weapon's lock box in the car from which they can retrieve a weapon if necessary. 9:18 not sure how it is in the Netherlands, but in most European countries police officers have to aim for non-lethal body parts (or tires or whatever) if they can stop the suspect that way. They can only use deadly force if the suspect can reasonably also kill someone, if they do not kill him first. If you look at the statistics for Germany, most police officer shootings hit the suspects knees.

[@OverSeaToo]

Top al die complimenten voor de politie. Ik hoop dat ze dit lezen, hebben ze zeker verdiend! 👍🏻👮👮🏻‍♀️🚔❤

[@Handyman1703]

I'm Dutch and indeed if necessary the Dutch police won't hesitate to act with brute force but only in very extrem cases mostly they are very polite and easy going.

[@MrLittle3vil]

7:35 Those were warningshot, that is procedure unless it's selfdefense. You can tell that guns aren't really a thing here since people flock to the scene to see what's going on. You'd think they'd go the other way when they see 20 cops with their gun drawn. The different camera angles are from camera's that are operated by the police. These are often in area's like city centers, near ambassy's of high ranking people in the government or in area's where there is high crime etc. I believe this is near a prison so that could be one of the reasons.

[@MRcheese14u]

As a dutch person who watches chases from uk and Netherlands you can definitely see that Dutch police do not care if your property gets damaged when you commited a crime

[@grave-d5v]

honestly i won't pretend our police never messes up and doesn't have some bad apples, but compared to the american police force they are pretty well trained and also kept on a very tight leash.

[@goblinkoma]

7:30 You say its a big car, even by American standards, but respectfully, every Truck or SUV is that ridiculously big. It's just that it looks comically big in Dutch streets, as they are more reasonably sized

[@LightsandSirens]

5:55 i remember this chase ! it was in rotterdam my home town The Range Rover had been seized by the police. A few hours later, the criminals had the audacity to enter the police headquarters grounds, get into the Range Rover and take the car back home. Ramming through the gates and then the chase began. That's why they shot at the car at the end when it got stuck in a busy street

[@carmenl163]

They don't hesitate to taser someone as well. That's why I am always stunned by the US police warning endlessly, talking endlessly, and having endless patience. Not in Europe.

[@mindrapist111]

In the Netherlands regulare Police is not authorized to use deadly force, cops are trained to shoot at legs, tires etc. The only branch of the police force that have the authoraty to use deadly force is our swat/anti terrorism squads

[@florijner]

The Dutch police do not execute people for a big mouth or a threat., frustration does not get you killed in Holland. They are highly skilled and mentaly conditioned.

[@maxxie84]

So in Europe (or in France at least), you may shoot to kill but it will send you to jail if it was not proven to be an accident and in self-defence, but you should always try to 'neutralise' without killing. Note I am not a lawyer, but I had family in the forces and that's what I was always told. You always try to aim for hands/arms or legs if you can

[@Irsu85]

Thats not how I see the police regularly, although the ones that I see are mostly in Maastricht, not Rotterdam

[@dyatrimavinck5551]

Our police force is really good in the Netherlands, really proud to have them.

[@wesboel-YT]

sometimes the police shoots waring shots in the air, that is also what happend in the video with the range rover

[@Maedhros0Bajar]

0:45 The suspect is doing everything he can to escape. Sparks come off his car when he performs a u-turn over the central reservation. 1:14 Due to the severe danger, this car must be stopped ASAP. Should he reach the motorway, consequences will be inconceivable (why they rammed the car). 1:25 Even after the crash, the suspect continues his attempts to drive off. While policemen approach the car on foot, he keeps his foot on the pedal. 2:32 Over the radio, officers are informed where the fourth suspect ran off to. 2:35 The second officer knows exactly where this is and navigates the driver to the location. 2:51 The fourth suspect is seen on a field of grass. Afterwards, everything happens rapidly. 5:24 //first line not fully readable (other text over it), something about a suspect// In the black car ahead drives a police officer in civilian garb. 5:54 The Range Rover drives at high speed, during the chase, into the police car blocking the road. And for the rest you had the subtitles on, which seem correct

[@colinshard8665]

and when there is a car chase on the dutch highway, they call in backup to close off every on- and offramp, this causes congestion very quickly

[@AndreasScout]

Dutch and Belgian police are high trained and work together a lot to solve cross border crimes ( you have Amsterdam, rotterdam in the Netherlands which are major ports and Antwerp+Zeebrugge that are also huge ports in Belgium. Big ports mean organized crime and since Belgium and the Netherlands arent that big cross border crime is an easy go to way for criminals. Do a crime in Belgium drive over the border ( there are no checkpoints along the border) in the Netherlands and well the criminals are "free". There were criminal gangs that were lobbing hand grenades at rival gangs, at banks, at local ordinary peoples homes. First happened in Amsterdam, Rotterdam and then it moved to Antwerp and Brussels too. Joint task force arrested those gangs but it was the special police units that are trained to deal with terrorists ( and are recruited from special forces military branches)

[@jacquieclapperton9758]

I've seen a video on KZbin last year or so where the ordinary police were chasing someone who drove across the border, they informed their colleagues, and then the car was being chased by police from two countries!

[@lsp_showtek94]

The reason in the first clip they went more crazy was because the suspect is endangering civilians and probably because when they squeezed between those cars they most likely caused damage to cars.

[@gfimadcat]

08:40 - the reason they did shoot was imminent threat; even then they don't go for the magdump. Any time a Dutch cop even draws his weapon, there's an absolute raft of paperwork that needs to be completed; when shots are fired, a judicial inquiry is opened to judge whether or not the cop (or cops) were justified in shooting. There's no qualified immunity either, I believe. And our police academy is ~4 years; most of the training is teaching law, application of law, de-escalation, conflict resolution, and so on. So basically the default strategy for police (and I guess this goes for most of Europe) is to attempt de-escalation, if that doesn't work, non-lethal force, and only in an absolute last resort situation do the guns come out.

[@sirius2560]

Dutch police is not scary, they are efficient and don't f around if you are a threat to anyone in the surrounding area. Usually extremely friendly and approachable.

[@jurgen9568]

Yes, the dutch police are armed. Its actually the main way you can tell whether you are talking to a real cop or just some security guard, rent-a-cop guy. Only the real police are allowed to carry a weapon, all the other not-truely-police aren't.

[@captain4318]

Lmao the whole police force storming that one apartment at the end 😅

[@jancleve9635]

I live near the dutch-german boarder. If i am honest, the dutch cops are more professional and won´t shoot at you as fast as the germans. In the last year our cops got caught up in the knife crime hysteria and were a bit trigger happy...

[@Jayden-qz5dn]

2 minutes watched and you deserve much more followers

[@elsotto3314]

You probably noticed that there are always 2 policemen, in our country they always work in pairs. Also for safety reasons and for the justice department.

[@petergraansma466]

The Dutch police aren’t that bad. Most of them are reasonable to have a conversation with. Only if you do not obey their commands it can escalate. For just speeding you will get a ticket, which as a foreigner you need to pay on the spot, but that’s it. From my experience there is a lot more equality between cops and civilians in The Netherlands than some parts of the US, and certainly other continents other than America and Europe.

[@checkyourfax]

8:30 This was a very controversial shooting, because you can't really tell if the person reversed because he wanted to get out, or reverse because he wanted to hit police.

[@nem3sis.yt_]

from what I’ve been taught as a kid, dutch police use their gun more as a tool than a killing weapon, sure there may have been cases I haven’t heard of but shooting tires and legs to disable a dangerous situation does happen more often than you think. killing is most of the time not done tho, also because the public usually doesn’t condone such acts since it does kind of align with what american police tend to be ridiculed for. Only time I ever hear of shooting to kill is when military police and force is involved, for example, home invasion or organized crime/drug organizations/gangs/kidnappings. and they won’t send normal cops to these situations either, it’s usually a very sure situation. they know what is inside, confirmed there’s danger, and jump right ontop of the criminals with armed military force and shields.

[@oskarprotzer3000]

We came this far for you to ask on which side the Dutch drive... xD

[@penaarja]

Left driving countries in Europe are UK, Ireland, Malta and Cypros

[@DavidIsham146]

Greetings from the Netherlands Ryan.

[@roelbrook7559]

I am not afraid of Dutch police. I am afraid of US police though. These are probably the most extreme clips. Police rarely fire their weapon. And yes, warning shots can be given instead of direct lethal force. If they go in guns drawn, it's generally because they have information the suspect is carrying a firearm. In the US, it's not a question as to whether the suspect has a gun, it is a question how many guns they have on them.

[@robert_trumpeteer]

It was a warning shot not an aimed shot, shows the professionalism of the cops.

[@anniek4681]

Yes, the dutch police is armed, they are highly trained. But they wont shoot until it's absolutly needed. If someone has an easy access gun, they probably are not law abiding citizens. There are people who own guns in the Netherlands. If they transport them they need to be in a locked up case. Some people shoot recreational at a shooting range. There are licenced hunters who keep wildlife healthy or in check. There are rules and regulations in place. Those people will follow those rules. Otherwise they loose the licence. I dont know what the procedure is when the police knows if the suspect is armed and dangerous.

[@daanwilmer]

They use the "BenaderingsTechniek Gevaarlijke Verdachten" ("Approaching Technique Dangerous Suspects"), BGTV for short. It has been shown and called out a few times in this video. Officers will keep their weapon aimed at the suspect, and will give them warnings like "if you reach for your weapon, you will be shot". Then the suspect is instructed to lay down in such a way they cannot pose an immediate threat, and they will be handcuffed. In case the suspect does not cooperate, a warning shot can be fired, or in extreme cases police can shoot to disable (i.e. aim for the legs).

[@TheAlexpot]

If your behaviour is normal and chill, the cops are chill with you as well But don't push their buttons 😅 And yess they are armed With a gun, taser, pepperspray and a nightstick I believe it's called Ooh and cuffs ofcourse, but that's not a weapon

[@Halli50]

As far as I know, the only unarmed police forces in Europe are in Norway and Iceland. Norway armed their police for a while following the Utöya massacre, but they soon gave up and now their police (like the Icelandic police) have weapons in their cars, quickly accessible if needed, but NOT carried on an everyday basis. A very good policy in my opinion, especially given the general security and safety experienced in these countries.

[@okbutthenagain.9402]

@Halli50 Sorry not true.(Norway have the Beredskapstroppen. Call sign Delta, and Iceland have the Sérsveit ríkislögreglustjóra, normally refered to as the Viking Squad.) The Uk also has unarmed police but with Tatical response units etc. And yes. The UK is still part of Europe as it didn't drift off into the night one day lol. I think you meant the EU or European continent.

[@Halli50]

@@okbutthenagain.9402 Oops, I stand corrected - most UK police is unarmed on an everyday basis. I forgot about that.

[@ThatRobloxPilot]

Those were really old video’s, some even from 2009. You should watch video’s from Politie Eenheid Landelijke Expertise & Operaties

[@sphaera55]

Our police usually are either softies (hey mate) or ego (trying to bully) but I love the one in Rotterdam. RTM is known for being direct...and no bullshit. If they ram/arrest you they tell you to shut up and show your hands....it's clearly clear in instructions which I think is good!

[@jimooijevaar6894]

Please watch the video of Jim Jefferies going on patrol with the Dutch Police in Amsterdam

[@lampjerulez]

yes they would only shoot a warning shot or shoot the tires. The possibility of actual shooting at the suspect is really low, they will only do that if the suspect is like killing people in front of their eyes or something like that. And all these clips are probably suspects with a high risk, you dont have to worry police acting this way if you are just speeding or something. The people in these clips probably are very heavy criminals or have done some serieus dangerous stuff (or are doing them still, like the car in the first clip that tried to go to the highway in the opposite direction) If you cross a red light or speed, you will just gently asked to pull over by a police car and then they will ask you what happend. i mean one of my relatives was speeding because his house was on fire, the police actually escorted him to his home (after they checked if it was true ofcourse)

[@ikkedus6255]

for speeding you get a high fine. They are very expensive there. For example, 30 km. to fast is 420 euro!! If you drive faster than 30 km to fast, you will have to appear before the judge, then you have a problem. If that is not the first time, then you really have a big problem.