American Reacts to Why Isn't Belgium Part of the Netherlands? | History of the Low Countries

[@mlambrechts1]

Hi thanks for your interest in these regions. Marc from Belgium

[@ronaldderooij1774]

Fun fact, most of the problems that southerners had, were solved by the new Dutch constitution in 1848. But that came 20 years too late to save the day.

[@sanderrobenek]

A lot pf Flemish people would love to reunite because after 200 years of trying things don’t work out 😌 we are bankrupt, North and South Belgium have a lot of Cultural differences and the Netherlands has always been our better big brother when Flanders would love to learn from them but Wallonia is a lazy old Uncle who doesn’t want to work or develop. (Roughly speaking) 🇧🇪❤️🇳🇱

[@EA_SKAAN]

@@sanderrobenek brainwashed by vb

[@robinnoel2716]

Ronald I actually I'm intressted , can you explain ? :)

[@jean-francoisribauville9065]

@@sanderrobenek So, why don't you declare your independance and reunite with your beloved big brother ? Maybe because it is easier to stay at home and complain about the old uncle.

[@CateSimulate]

I love these history vids and getting some refreshing of the mind through you. So _THANK YOU_ for that, Charlie ❤️️👍

[@RAWDernison1]

King Charlie V: ... stroopwafels are amazing ... I remember this Dutch band "Amazing Stroopwafels", very popular in their days. Ome Kobus ?

[@guyvandurme7228]

It is confusing of course because the Netherlands (nowadays) also have a region called ...Flanders ( and for the record , there is also one in France,as if this was not complicated enough !)

[@Qubie1]

Well, because they were Flanders once

[@marcvandenbroecke331]

Why do they not speak about 10th until 14th century when Flanders with towns as Gent, Bruges and Antwerp were far more developed economically then Holland ? We didn't even speak of the Netherlands then but of Flanders! And never wanted anything to do with Holland??

[@mlambrechts1]

In fact, the belgian constitution was very modern and the usa took parts of it after the civil war

[@yvescallaert7923]

The main reason is the difference in culture that resulted because of Calvinism in The Netherlands vs Catholicism in Belgium. Even though the hold of religion has seriously waned in recent history the long hold it had on a society or a culture does form the way it acts. This results in the Dutch being more sober, direct, concise and strict. The Belgians are more lavish, regional, reluctant, tend to bend or circumvent the rules and they mix and match a lot of differences (and that goes for both linguistic parts). What also very few seem to understand is that, even though the linguistic split and joining other countries seems logical at on th first sight, is that this region since long has been relatively combative and fought for it's independence. Yes, because of it's small size compared to other European regions, Belgium never really was a military match to other and far bigger and politically influential nations. However... despite being dominated and ruled by other countries, Belgians have always been relatively stubborn as well as prone to erode such a rule from the inside as well as actively resisting to such rule and domination. In many ways Belgians are set on their freedoms and they don't mind others having theirs. That's why it's hard to unite Belgians explicitly for something, and far easier against something. When you want to 'rule' Belgians you can, but don't ever think it will be an easy task, because you either rule with them and with all the diversity that entails, or you rule against them and find out just how stubborn they can be.

[@francoisdebellefroid2268]

6:30 the guy in the middle is Philip the Good, Duke of Burgundy. Even though his grandfather already united Flanders with Burgundy by marrying the heiress of that county, Philip added most of today's Benelux (but Frisia and Liege) and Northern France to his territory. It's told he wore only black from the day his father, John the Fearless, was murdered by the Dauphin of France, Charles (later, king Charles VII). That reason is maybe untrue, but still, he launched a fashion that was going to last for his whole reign. The fashion was also to extravaganza to show power and wealth. That explains the big haton the most powerfull man around... and as long your shoes, as long your... well :) Little detail in the 80 years war split: if the south was as rebelious as the north, the religious extremism from both sides pushed them back in Spain's arms after Philip II appointed his nephew, Alessandro Farnese, as governor. He was both military talented and moderate as a ruler. In no time (and a few battles won) he managed to convince the southern provinces to give him their support... eventually, his success and popularity frightened Philip II who feared he could claim the crown of the Netherlands for himself, so, he removed him (there is no indication that Farnese himself had such ambition. So, let's say it: it was pure paranoia and/or jealousy) Point is: the south remained under the Habsburg rule not only undrr duress, but also by will and fear religious extremism from the calvinists would hurt them if they were to take power over the whole Netherlands...

[@CateSimulate]

Dude, I fell asleep apparently and am watching this again ... 11:19 is some crude humor. Look at the dog on the right bottom😂🤣

[@marinavanorshaegen5617]

hello Charlie Vest, your last name vest means a jacket in Belgium,love and kisses from Belgium

[@marcvandenbroecke331]

Charles the fifth ( the V is the Latin number 5) is born in Gent in the year 1500

[@PyrusFlameborn]

"Are they [the shoes] supposed to be that pointy?" The medieval elite had a fashion for long pointy shoes. Eventually they become so long, pointy, and floppy that the tips were curled back and tied to the ankle with a piece of string.

[@Londronable]

Also heels used to be worn by men.

[@fcassmann]

Funfact:a marriage between a member of the Belgian royal familie and the Netherlands Royal family are constitutional forbidden.

[@francoisdebellefroid2268]

11:45 to make it worse: in medieval time, Flanders, where people speak a germanic language, was officially part of the kingdom of France, while the other provinces (so, all the French speaking ones) where into the Holy Roman Germanic Empire... 🤷‍♂️ So, rule number one: never never ever try to see into a medieval structure any basis for a modern state!

[@spittefire5979]

So my uncle is a historian with flemish and dutch roots. He said to me that the Flemish pleople wanted to stay with te dutch in 1830. But at the time the Walloon bourgeoisie had in every major city the power and the flemish were small farmer who had nothing to say.. the walloon didnt like the dutch but needed land, so they just took flanders with it… you wil never find this info on the internet or not easy

[@matthings4133]

Because it is not true. Flemish national propaganda

[@ArienvanRijswijck]

I'm Flemish with Dutch herritage as well , I think it's a missconception that we wanted to leave.. We wanted change.. Even if you look at the 12 W's : Wij willen Willem weg , wil Willem Wijzer worden willen wij Willem weer. ( We want Willem gone , if Willem decides to be wiser we want Willem back )

[@Lootensansy2308]

I am from Belgium and u I love ore friendly Hollander's..is nice country little bit the same like Belgium only the food wand beer is Much better in Belgium.😂😉☺️

[@OfficialRandomize]

Definitely agree 🇳🇱

[@marceldevries1366]

End off all we all belong together.

[@dirkdemeirleir264]

Very good video, very nuanced, even if it was made by a Dutchman !

[@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands]

All the provinces of the Netherlands, (the country), Belgium, Luxembourg, and French Flanders, together form the Nether lands, or low countries, they these provinces, are divided over 4 countries now. And not to be confused with the country of the Netherlands.

[@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands]

Actually Belgium is ONE OF of the nether LANDS, BUT NOT PART OF ThE COUNTRY OF THE NETHERLANDS.

[@jean-francoisribauville9065]

(19:50) Nobody in Belgium says "Vaterloo", (we say "Waterlo") including French-speaking people. They do it in France though (it would rather be "Vaterlo"), and we laugh about it.

[@treinfanaat649]

In feite was het slagveld niet in Waterloo, maar in Brain l' Alleud. Deze plaatsnaam was waarschijnlijk veel te moeilijk om uit te spreken voor de Engelsen en Hollanders🤓

[@yvescallaert7923]

Let's be more accurate and complicate things even more: Besides there being a Noord-Brabant (NL) and South Brabant (BE) in the situation you described accurately, there also is a Netherlands Limburg and a Belgian Limburg. While the Belgian Limburg is in the North - North Eastern part of Belgium, its Netherlands counterpart is The Netherlands most South -South Eastern province. Oh, and Luxemburg is not only the name of a country on its own. In Belgium the province closest to the country of Luxemburg is also named Luxemburg. So Luxemburg is both its own individual country as well as the name of a Belgian province.

[@wimschoenmakers5463]

Yeah.... Don't even try to understand the mess in those years of people fighting each other. Spanish, Austrians, Dutch, French, Germans. They all liked to fight. 🤣 Living in the south of the Netherlands and nowing about the history, you'll soon understand why people in some nearby areas are speaking German, Dutch or even French. So basicly it's still a mess even today. 😆

[@darrellpowell6042]

22:06 The Greeks created democracy in 507BC. The US modelled their system on the Roman system of Senate and Representatives. The Romans copied the Greeks. The rest of the world then developed their own versions or had monarchy rule. The British had Romans and after they left returned to a monarchy.

[@celsus7979]

The romans didnt copy the greeks. The roman republic was formed before athens became a democracy

[@uwbollema]

@@celsus7979 according to Roman writers

[@Ekstrax]

Fan of History with Hilbert but i have to say the thing that bothered me about that 0:12 second photo is that it's photoshopped The difference in road quality is noticable but there is no place where it's that Black and White difference. Also we still have the official lists of people sentenced to death by the Spanish in Antwerp at the time :p So we know who, how many, and why Also, my dutch grandmother didn't want me to be baptized because of protestantism, while my Belgian grandmother absolutely demanded i be baptized because of catholicism xD

[@mklok3863]

Heey man i love your channel, but can you make thé vids your watching a little bit louder. Your voice is much louder than the vid.

[@baskoning9896]

haha! 'its complicated'.

[@jandejong1122]

21/09/1558-26/07/1581: The Spanish Netherlands (Philip II, King of Spain, Lord of the Dutch Habsburg regions) 26/07/1581: Declaration of Independence from Spain, signed by the States General, on behalf of the Seventeen Provinces (i.e. the Habsburg Netherlands) 29/09/1580-10/06/1584: Principality of the Netherlands (offered to François Hercule de Valois, Duke of Anjou, Prince and Lord of the Netherlands (except of the counties of Holland and Zeeland) 10/06/1584-10/07/1584: Principality of the Netherlands (Willem, Prince of Orange, Count of Nassau-Dillenburg, as Stadtholder* on behalf of the Prince and Lord of the Netherlands) 11/07/1584-xx/xx/1588: various wars xx/xx/1588-18/01/1795: Republic of the Seven United Netherlands (Latin: Belgium Foederatum) 19/01/1795-31/12/1800: Batavian Republic 01/01/1801-04/06/1806: Batavian Commonwealth 05/06/1806-01/07/1810: Kingdom of Holland (Luigi Napoleone Buonaparte I (Dutch: Lodewijk I, brother of Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte I of France) 01/07/1810-08/07/1810: Kingdom of Holland (Luigi Napoleone Buonaparte II (Dutch: Lodewijk II, son of Lodewijk I) 08/07/1810-20/11/1813: Empire Français (Napoléon Bonaparte I) 20/11/1813-15/03/1815: Sovereign Principality of the United Netherlands. (Willem VI, Prince of Nassau-Orange-Fulda, Duke of Luxembourg) 16/03/1815-07/10/1840: United Kingdom of the Netherlands (Willem I, King of the United Netherlands, Duke and Grand-Duke of Luxembourg, Duke of Limburg) (same person as Willem VI) 07/10-1840-17/03/1849: Kingdom of the Netherlands (Willem II, King of the Netherlands, Grand-Duke of Luxembourg, Duke of Limburg) 17/03/1849-23/11/1890: Kingdom of the Netherlands (Willem III, King of the Netherlands, Grand-Duke of Luxembourg, Duke of Limburg **) 23/11/1890-30/08/1898: Kingdom of the Netherlands (Emma, Queen Regent, on behalf of her underage daughter Wilhelmina) 31-08-1898-04/09/1948: Kingdom of the Netherlands (Wilhelmina, Queen of the Netherlands) 04/09/1948-30/04/1980: Kingdom of the Netherlands (Juliana, Queen of the Netherlands) 30/04/1980-13/04/2013: Kingdom of the Netherlands (Beatrix, Queen of the Netherlands) 13/04/2013- present: Kingdom of the Netherlands (Willem-Alexander, King of the Netherlands) Notes: reminder: dates are shown as day/month/year. *) Stadtholder (Dutch: Stadhouder, from French: Lieutenant, is the Chief Magistrate on behalf of the Prince and Lord of the Netherlands) **) The Duchy of Limburg was abolished 11/05/1867 when it was incorporated into the Netherlands.

[@jfrancobelge]

The Netherlands are largely Protestant, Belgium is largely Catholic, Flemish or Walloon; those religious facts are not that important nowadays, but they were in the early nineteenth century. And cultures deriving from a Protestant or Cathlolic background are still pretty different. If Belgium was still Dutch, then the Netherlands would have to be a trilingual country; there are 4.5 million French speakers in Southern Belgium plus, largely, Brussels, and let's not forget the 75,000/80,000 German speakers of Ostbelgien along the German border. And do the Flemish really speak Dutch? As a French speaker I'll let others decide on that, but I know that I can more or less understand the Flemish (provided they don't use too much of a local dialect), when I usually hardly get a word when confronted to "real" Dutch from the Dutch people.

[@WikkeSchrandt]

I'm a Dutch person who happens to speak French, and just wanted to note that the Flemish really speak the same language we do. It's like what Quebecois is to French; somewhat odd and slightly different, sure. But mostly mutually intelligible and without a doubt the same language.

[@irmabresser9218]

Lol i learned more on this video then at school.

[@erikbehaeghel]

why isn't the Netherlands not a part of Belgium ( lol) greetings from Belgium

[@commando2113]

Lol indeed 😂😂

[@_-Naz-_]

omdat belgen

[@dutchman7623]

Allez zunne!

[@robinnoel2716]

Cause the Dutch want a better functional country , not a worse. Greeting from a Belgian .

[@mcr3059]

My family is descended from Charlemagne :)

[@marcvandenbroecke331]

Apart from some 40 years, Belgium was never part of the Netherlands !!!

[@robinnoel2716]

Idk I kinda dissagree , we've bin part of the United Kingdom of the Netherlands for only 15 years BUT we've always bin part of the Netherlands . They just diveded us .🤷‍♂️ What is honestly a shame to me .

[@WikkeSchrandt]

@@robinnoel2716 Marc is right, though. The Netherlands were as much a part of Belgium, as the other way around. We were both part of the same united country, and only for a very short period of time.

[@robinnoel2716]

@@WikkeSchrandt well yes and no , Netherlands is a name from a geographical point with Belgium and luxembourg included.. what makes us part of the Netherlands or like others call it " the low lands ", and altho we have bin part of the united kingdom of the Netherlands for only 15 years we actually share history for more then 1000 years.. most of the times we just have bin seperated for reasons ( mainly power or religion ) cause we also have bin part of the frankish empire , habsburgs Netherlands , 17 provences .. and seperated we also had the name spanish Netherlands , bourgondian Netherlands , Austrian Netherlands.. And sure we have bin "official" only bin part of the Netherlands for a short time but if you think about it .. The Netherlands weren't that long independent either. So we couldn't be part for a long time of the country 🤷‍♂️ Historicly , economical , ethnical , linguistic , geographical .. We are very Simulair , I don't like to seperate us cause unity makes strength. ( Belgian slogan but also from the Dutch republic. )

[@WikkeSchrandt]

@@robinnoel2716 Right, I get it. I always get confused when talking about the region of the Netherlands (because of the similarity in name, I'm sure you understand). But yeah, I too have always felt at home in Belgium. Belgium is just like the Netherlands, only with nicer people

[@robinnoel2716]

@@WikkeSchrandt well I'm born and raised in Belgium my "bomma" her father was actually Dutch so I try to taste of both cultures altho there aren't so much differences.. the Belgians are sometimes indeed more friendly or rather polite but I got to be honest I love the directness of the Dutch more . Cause eventually you get used to it , and people don't beat around the bush. So I get less offended by Dutch people , and more offended by Belgian people because they try so hard to soften things. I like to know where I stand for them as a person , and I think it's kinda hard to estimate with people who try hard to not offend you in any way . 🤷‍♂️

[@guyvandurme7228]

First you are no dumb American at all ! You are one of the most intelligent I know : You know so much about Belgium ( and more generally about Europe) already maybe just come and visit. belgian people are very welcoming.the japanese tower in The Laeken Palace is a reminder of Belgan- Jpanese friendschip (partnership, at that time)

[@Mononerono]

The story of power and rule over nations is not done yet. The future kingdom after the great reset will probably be called the great Klaustrophobian Empire

[@antiqueinsider]

Yeah fashion victims are NOT a 20th century creation. Codpieces, pointed shoes, tights over the calf muscles were considered VERY sexy! and flashy buckles also had their day in the middle ages.

[@nekromantikful]

Hey man, if you ever plan on coming tot belgium, you are welcome tot Stay at my place as long as you wish. For free, so you van check out more of our great country. Greets from belgium. Just let me know if you are interested. 👍

[@yessyloos]

Did you know Charlie, that you can;t entry the Netherlands with a beard?

[@colonsfcolon]

as a dutch i really enjoy your videos! but can you please stop smoking and at least not do it in front of the camera it really annoys me. I'm really against smoking, but I do love your videos

[@sese8976]

belgia was basicly the battleground between netherlands and france

[@zephyrus339]

And England. And Germany. Apparently if you want to conquer Europe, invade Belgium.

[@robsteries]

Must be made by a Dutchie, but ok :)

[@lasco9169]

I still believe than benelux will one day be the motor to a reunification. I hope :D

[@Elgreenstuff94]

Because South part was part of France and North a part to Netherlands, and England won a war to create this country with a royal family related to England Royal family

[@commando2113]

England did not create belgium after the napolion war we were part of the united kingdom of the nederland's and we belgian's revolted and won and the belgian's chose there king

[@celsus7979]

You didnt win, you lost limburg lets call it a tie haha

[@commando2113]

@@celsus7979 mmm it is a tie because we still got vlaams limburg 😋

[@gertvanderstraaten6352]

History with Hilbert is pretty awesome but the Wilhelmus thing is annoying! Why do you keep doing that, you mafkees when I asked you several times not to!!! Sorry, I'just not a fan of the song, the royal family, the fact that there IS a royal family, the color orange, the fact that this color which represents tat family is now supposed to represent the countryand the same goes for the national anthem... So yeah, I'm sot a typical Dutch guy. The shoes is just fashion, that's the best way to describe it.

[@010Jordi]

Belgium doesn't exist its just the southern Netherlands

[@jfrancobelge]

No, it's not. A few years ago, a Flemish politician became a laughing stock when he that Flanders should be re-attached to the Netherlands. There is an independist movement in Flanders but almost nobody there wants to be Dutch, though they speak a similar language (Flemish being a different kind of Dutch). As for Southern Belgium (Wallonia and largely Brussels), where French is spoken, the Dutch culture is definitely a foreign culture; the Walloons don't even want to be French except for a very small minority of "rattachistes".

[@WishMasterNW]

I LOVE YOURE VIDEOS....BUT... Not all history of ouer dutch hoese of orange is good...on teh 23 of july 1572 ouer father of the fatherland Willem of Orange commited a huge warcrime with his protestant army conquring the capital of the "graafschap Gelre" Roermond. hsi army masacred 12 "KARTHUIZER MONKS" also known as the "martelaren van Roermond. you wont find much of this event in history books, as it whiped out Dutch history. However there are paintings depicting this, one in Roermond itself, the other two in the Louvre Paris and Belles Artes in Coruna. trigering this slaughter was,,,,you guest it,,,religion...holland is mostly prootestant,,,but Gelre was Katholic as limburg stil is today... a bloody and black page in dutch history of which most Hollanders even know it happened.....i left a link to this story howver it isnt subtitled... i think its only fair...not all Dutch history is good and maybe because of that noot in history books.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZ-WZnaBbKajq5Y