American Reacts to Why US and UK Cider Mean Very Different Things

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In this video I react to how US and UK cider mean completely different things. As someone who has always enjoyed a cold glass of apple cider, I had no idea our version of cider is not the same as British cider. So, if a Brit and I both asked for a glass of cider, they would expect hard cider, yet I would expect apple juice. I would have never guessed that such a simple drink could be so vastly different depending on the country you're in.
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[@terryhayward7905]

In the UK, you can buy cider, or apple juice. Cider is an alcoholic drink, apple juice is just apple juice. Simple really.

[@xarisstylianou]

Cider you buy in the shops is so much different from scrumpy cider the later is real strong you don't drink too much Apple jack is anon disdeled spirit made by freezing the juice until you get down when there's no water and you have apple whiskey It's really strong it's about 65 to 80 percent alcohol So there you go send you PO box if there is any left I will send some

[@Ah-ed6ie]

Crazy how we learnt to make cider In school, crazy as it sounds. Apple juice, yeast and let it stand for few days in a bottle/jar etc. No need for the name apple cider.

[@vickytaylor9155]

Don’t forget they now sell non alcoholic cider which I presume they do something to it to remove the alcohol.

[@Ah-ed6ie]

Agreed I've had apple juice past best before and it never smells like cider I just threw it away.

[@grlth]

Ive had cloudy apple juice in uk many times, then there is mulled cider, which is spiced, hot cider. So 4 types i know of.

[@zoeadams2635]

I was born and raised in the westcountry in England. This area is famous for cider. I absolutely love cider, it's my go to drink. A famous westcountry group called "The Wursels" even have a song called "I am a cider drinker". We call some ciders "scrumpy". The act of theiving apples from other people's orchards or gardens is called "scrumping".

[@reactingtomyroots]

30%?! 😳

[@zoeadams2635]

@@reactingtomyroots I have a feeling this might have been a reply to the wrong comment?

[@hardywatkins7737]

Scrumping of course! Such fun!

[@dcarbs2979]

The Wurzels also did "Drink Up Thy Cider" and an EP called "Scrumpy & Western"

[@pauldurkee4764]

Steve, we have both apple cider and pear cider in the UK, pear cider is known as perry. We also use the word Scrumpy, to describe a rough,sometimes cloudy cider that could be very potent. In rural areas you could sometimes buy it off the barrel, and it would render your legs useless very quickly. In the UK we grow cider apples, dessert apples and cooking apples.👍

[@philjones6054]

Very true. Scrumpy hits you like no other drink. It does things!!

[@pauldurkee4764]

@@philjones6054 Scrumpy in hot weather and you wake up in the bottom of a ditch somewhere.😂

[@Obi-J]

I heard a Somerset cider maker say there are 3 types of cider, singing cider, dancing cider and fighting cider!🤣

[@christineharding4190]

Scrumpy is rough - it can take the polish off your furniture!

[@hydroanky]

Scrumpy is proper hardcore and absolutely delicious. Higher tier compared to standard cider.

[@waightkl]

Hi Steve. In my dim and misspent youth I went on holiday to the county of Somerset. "Scrumpy" is the name for the local (very) alchoholic cider made locally. I was in a pub ( drinking beer ) when a local came in and asked the barman for "a pint of oblivion please". I thought that was a cool name for a cider brand and looked in vain for the bottles or barrels bearing that name. In the end I asked the bar man and he said that referred to the local scrumpy and was meant literally. Apparently 2 pints, or more of the stuff would render your legs and powers of speech inoperative.

[@rachelpenny5165]

I grew up 3 miles from a cider factory in Devon and have drunk cider and scrumpy. I do like proper scrumpy and cider much more than wine.

[@zerowhite2286]

I lived in Hereford. A few pubs served scrumpy, but it came with warnings and limits for new drinkers. I was served a half pint, for girlies. Before I finished the glass I became aware that the room was spinning. Potent stuff!

[@MrAlunhopkins4]

Many years ago, i brewed cider at home for the first time. Unbeknownst to me, my father had been adding additional sugar over a period of several weeks. One evening, I drank two pints of the stuff before going on to the pub. 'Oblivion' is an excellent word to describe the experience (that I only partially remember) 😂

[@JeanBeech-gc4iw]

Mixing scrumpy cider and barrelled sherry was the ruin, when I was in my late teens.

[@Tuffydipstick]

I grew up and live in Somerset. I drink cider all the time. My uncle used to brew it. Drink a lot of it you would soon be legless.

[@TooShortPlancks]

We have spiced ciders in the UK, traditionally served hot in the late Autumn/Winter. We call it 'Mulled Cider", similar to mulled wine. That tradition is probably why you've only come across a spiced pressed apple juice.

[@che71che]

Mmmm, mulled cider on a cold winter day, delicious

[@Zephyrus88PL]

Mulled cider, wine or beer. We love them in Poland.

[@johnp8131]

@@Zephyrus88PL Haven't had mulled ale for decades. I used to go to a pub near Lincoln that sold a stronger winter ale that we could add to and then heat with a red hot poker out of the fire.

[@loopywren]

Its delicious too

[@raycardy4843]

Was about to say the same, but you beat me to it! lol Mulled wine or cider is great!

[@vincentcutting5630]

There is a story about an American mother who moved to the UK for work and gave her children Cider it was sometime before she realised why they kept acting strangely and falling asleep!

[@reactingtomyroots]

Wow...not even sure what to say about that haha

[@rachelbosworth2438]

In the UK the unfiltered apple juice would be marketed as cloudy or pressed apple juice and the cheaper, filtered/clear one is just apple juice.

[@BARNEY_1337]

and dont forget scrumpy .. cloudy cider with a higher alcohol content

[@LawfullSpook]

And to make it even more confusing, we have both Cloudy and Clear Alcoholic cider and even a non alcoholic cider which has had its alcohol removed

[@markwolstenholme3354]

​@@BARNEY_1337 🤪🤤🥴🤣🤣.

[@Zephyrus88PL]

Same thing in Poland.

[@juwen7908]

Same here in Germany ❣️

[@MsCheesemonster13]

As a Brit, yes, if it is non-alcoholic, I would call it “apple juice”. Alcoholic apple juice is “cider”, and then there is “scrumpy” 😊 Cider and scrumpy were the first alcoholic drinks I ever had as a teenager living in deepest, darkest Dorset.

[@loopywren]

Scrumpy was the downfall of many wrens and new matelots at RNAS Culdrose in the depths of Cornwall.

[@loopywren]

I had my first scrumpy as a newish Wren deep in Cornwall at RNAS Culdrose. Then a small place not like it is now.

[@kimtopp5984]

Scrumpy is serious stuff …..quickly get ratted

[@zebraforceone]

I think you mean ZOIDER

[@simongoodwin5253]

I used to buy scrumpy or cider at the side of the road in Dorset. Lived in that county for 37 years.

[@tomsteven-fe4hd]

I remember my father telling me that when he was in the Territorial Army in the early 50's they sometimes would go on an Annual camp to the South West of England . There they could drink a cider called Scrumpy, however they could only get a couple of half-pints at a time as it was deemed too strong for session drinking.

[@johngardiner6800]

Here in Somerset England we have what is known as Scrumpy, this is a very very strong cider and is famous for its strength

[@johnbelcher7955]

We also have Scrumpy, which traditionally is a more organic way of producing hard cider and is known for a higher alcoholic content and as it is unfiltered it is cloudy!

[@TheBaconWizard]

YES, correct. "Cider" ALWAYS means booze here. Also, not made clear (pun hehe) is that cider can be clear, but more traditional cider is flat and cloudy. We sometimes call that "scrumpy" It's still alcoholic, sometimes up to 10% ABV because cider-apples contain more natural sugar as well as a good level of acidity and in the UK we like it to have tannins (like red wine does) Anything else is apple-juice, (cloudy apple juice, or just apple-juice) I make cider at home and it's good! I have a long-term project to cross-breed red-fleshed apples with English cider-apples to create a dedicated red-fleshed English cider-apple. Gonna take at least a decade :I If you want to try making it yourself at home I can talk you through that process. It's easy, but there are a couple of things to know if you want a good product. Edit: Yes, alcohol made from pears is "perry" although you sometimes see it marketed simply as pear-cider because the word "perry" is archaic.

[@ChrisParrett-qo4sx]

Pear cider is pressed from pears… usually dessert varieties or a mixture… but to be perry, it has to be pressed exclusively from perry pear varieties (which are inedible due to the bitter tannins in the same way as cider apple varieties are).

[@TerryD15]

In The UK and Norther Europe there are many different ciders rather as there are different types of wine some clear, some cloudy; some carbonated; some flat; some strong; some weaker, it's a very varied drink. Pear juice can be used to make an alcoholic drink which is misnomered as Pear Cider, the correct name for it is Perry.🍗🍎

[@-.8.-]

I’m actually quite surprised that the freezing method is that well used, I’m from Devon in the south west, the home of proper cider and my grandparents learned this from their parents and so forth until they taught it to us. I can tell you it’s possible to get around 30% very easily

[@rachelpenny5165]

I grew up 3 miles from a cider factory in Devon. It used to be called Inches, then Bulmers bought the company and shut this factory down. They have recently started selling their version of one of the best Inches cider in the shops. That original factory is now called Winkleigh Cider Company (opened by an original worker at Inches) and sells Scrumpy and what they call Sam's cider. This refers to Sam Inch who originally started Inches cider company. Their cider and scrumpy is very nice.

[@neilrichards683]

I love inches Stonehouse

[@-.8.-]

@@rachelpenny5165 hahaha, you might know the bullens, they live right next to winkleigh cider… What a small world. I went to Chulmleigh cc 😄

[@rachelpenny5165]

@@-.8.-I recognise the name but didn't know them that well. I also went to Chulmleigh and lived in a farming area half way between Winkleigh and North Tawton. Best wishes

[@-.8.-]

@@rachelpenny5165 taw valley is beautiful… I’ve probably spent thousands in that creamery shop 🤣🤣🤣

[@dacooper7151]

A spiced apple juice is called 'mulled apple juice' - mulled means a spiced drink often warmed, but we don't often do this to anything but wine. Mulled/spiced apple drink is not at all common in the UK. People might occasionally make it at Christmas as a non-alcoholic drink for anyone who is driving.

[@hardywatkins7737]

I also remember as a young man, the times when on a Friday night we would get on the train at Totnes in Devon and take a ten minute journey to Newton Abbot just several miles away to visit the 'cider bar' there where they sold alot of different ciders (and beers and other stuff) we would get very pissed drinking 'Inch's Harvest' scrumpy, then at 9pm we'd stagger back onto the train to get back to Totnes before the pubs closed for some more bevvies (alcoholic beverages). 🤕 Oh nearly forgot. When you mix a cider with a lager it's called 'snakebite' and word has it that it makes one somewhat aggressive.

[@shaunfarrell3834]

Yep, when I worked in pubs in the 80's Snake Bite was banned!

[@ginafromcologne9281]

That was really interesting! For me as a German, this was confusing to me too. I love British cider and when I watched Little House on the Prairie in English, I was surprised when they gave cider or even hot cider to children. lol. Here in Germany, we also differentiate between cloudy apple juice and clear apple juice, but we also have an alcoholic cider equivalent called Apfelwein (apple wine), which is a bit more bitter and has a higher alcohol content than the British one. Maybe there is also a taste difference between the American hard cider and the British cider.

[@susanwestern6434]

As a child visiting a German uncle on his farm near Osnabruck Germany in the 1960s, my brother and I were offered beer. I refused and said I wanted water. My uncle said bah! water! He was offering us a very low alcohol, maybe no alcohol beer. I was about 9 years old and my brother about 7. So it seemed normal to him for young children to drink that kind of beer.

[@ginafromcologne9281]

@@susanwestern6434 Oh no! Haha. It was also my uncle who introduced me to beer as a child. It's a national treasure. :D Didn't you and your brother find it terribly bitter and disgusting as a child? Brrr, it wasn't nice!

[@ragupasta2729]

In the UK, Apple juice is Apple juice (marketing aside) . "Cider" is always fermented (not always apples). I remember as a kid going to Cornwall and people buying home made scrumpy cider. You "rented" a pint stein glass and went out back of the pub and they had a full barrel of homemade cider you dipped the glass into. The barrel was very strong cider and had half cut apples floating in it. We not only have apple cider, but other fruits like pear cider. Also the video you chose "Adam Ragusia" is very good at breaking down things kindof scientifically. He is very good, one to keep on your radar for information, as what he says he thoroughly tests and shows quite openly. Also in the UK "spiced" drinks being Cider or not is usually something that comes around at Christmas time. Even UK homes at Christmas usually have some wax melt smellies that are in-fact spiced apple, which is usually Apple, Cinnamon and Nutmeg for that particular season. If you want to see wild behaviour in the UK, look up "Yard of Cider", or "Yard of Ale". As for your last question about cider: On a really hot day, a pint of cold carbonated alcoholic cider is wonderfully refreshing!

[@MrPaulMorris]

In British and international standard English, cider is always an alcoholic fermented drink made from apple juice. Non-fermented apple juice is simply 'apple juice'. The juice may be filtered and clear , which is just 'juice' unfiltered is, rather prosaically, described as 'cloudy juice'. I've never come across apple juice with added spices so there is no equivalent term for the US 'cider' product. Until recent times, cider was regarded as rather an old man's peasant drink being very rough and notoriously strong. This was especially popular in the south west of England (the 'West Country') where the cloudy rough original version is known as 'Scrumpy'. From around the 50s there was a marketing drive to get a mass produced cider into more general acceptance, most notably by Bulmer who produced a sweet (alcoholic) cider, Woodpecker, and a dry product, Strongbow. They never really gained the mass appeal of beer but ticked along quite happily for decades until the 90s (? from memory) where another assault on the market began targeted at younger drinkers. Remember that the age limit to purchase alcohol in the UK is 18--which means, in practice and in the absence of any compulsory ID cards, that most young people start drinking from their mid-teens. Certainly in my own case, a seeming lifetime ago, my age was never queried when I first started venturing independently or with groups of friends into pubs at 14/15.

[@IzzySiu]

I'm born and raised in England. This video was very educational even for me. Cheers, buddy. Keep up the good work.

[@reactingtomyroots]

Glad to hear that! Appreciate you watching :)

[@runehawkwood]

Here in the West country of England, the counties of Somerset and Wiltshire are famous for scrumpy cider. Its rough, cloudy and causes parts of your body to not work. Lovely stuff...

[@chucky2316]

I'm a westcountry lad cider Country here. We have scrumpy aswell lots of farms here in devon where you can buy it from the keg.

[@laurapower2697]

I'm a Brit and i've never seen a apple juice as 'cider' -like you describe it.. if I drove to a small farm shop in the middle of nowhere, I might be lucky to find a small-batch fancy 'spiced apple juice' (for the non-alcoholics) next to the christmas mead in the autumn/winter.. but it's not standard. I've never seen that in the supermarket.. Cider is and always will be, our booze of choice in Somerset

[@brentwoodbay]

I drank cider in Wales when I lived there, but mainly it was beer. Then I moved to Canada where they also sold cider but not as much of it and it tasted quite a bit sweeter. We went to the US and thought we'd try the cider there. This was in the early 70s. We went to a 'liquor store' and then the fun began! "Why are you looking for cider in here, go to a grocery store!" "What do you mean, cider with alcohol in it? " We had never heard of cider WITHOUT alcohol, and they had never heard of it WITH IT! A few years later , we began to see 'Hard cider' and guessed they finally caught on! '

[@BumblingBec]

The best apple juice is from Perrys Cider in Somerset; and their cider is amazing. We also have fruit cider in the UK. I was drinking Pineapple & Raspberry Cider last night

[@HarleyHerbert]

Outside of the US cider is actually a type of drink rather than just a particular flavour. Cider is an alcoholic drink made from fruit juice, so it's quite common for cider to be made from a wide variety of fruits, such as pears, oranges, blackcurrants, cherries, strawberries, etc. They can either be made from the juice of one fruit or contain a mix of juices. Some companies have experimented with different fruits with varying amounts of success and you tend to get special flavours for special events like Christmas. When you go into a supermarket to the alcohol section you'll find an entire isle dedicated to ciders because of how many different ciders there are.

[@brianwithers162]

"Cider with Rosie" a book by Laurie Lee of his upbringing in the Somerset (Zummerset) rural countryside before the first world war. A brilliant little read.

[@DJ-Lee_S]

You have another subscriber ❤ love these interesting videos. Keep it up bro I’m a Brit btw and never knew your cider is mostly non alcoholic

[@WijaLE]

What Adam Ragusea had and called cider, we in the UK would generally refer to as 'cloudy apple juice'. You can also get a warm cloudy apple juice drink with nutmeg, ginger, cinnamon and so on but I don't know what I'd call that, maybe spiced apple juice

[@petertrznadel8107]

At 17.01, That's why in the UK we call your "Soda's", Soft drinks, Fizzy or otherwise.

[@JarlGrimmToys]

I’m in the UK and wondered why the difference in language. It’s a very old traditional drink in the UK. It’s very refreshing especially in summer, and mulled cider is great in the winter. Alcoholic drinks made from pear’s is called perry. Like cider it’s a traditional drink although much less popular.

[@stuartsmith8144]

Just like cloudy cider, here in the U.K. we have lemonade and cloudy lemonade. Two quite different drinks. Great work. Keep it up 👍🏻

[@PhilipShand]

Oh,I was raised in Somerset,where the zider apples grow ! Scrumpy was widely available & always pleasantly lethal (12 to 14%)

[@mik99D]

We also have 'Scrumpy" in the UK. Which is very strong cider from the south of England.

[@johnorchard4]

Apple Juice with spices added would be spiced apple juice! Incidentally, another Old English name for apple is pippin. Hence my dog is called Pippin! (You may note that our family name is Orchard*) As for ciders, they will vary dependent on the apple variety and the time spent in fermetation. I come fro the west country where it is not uncommon to have Scrumpy which is a rough highly fermented cider and that will contrast significantly to the super filtered varieties sold in pretty bottles by some of the larger brewers which are crystal clear. As in the case of your professor, crumpy will mainly utitlise the natural yeasts, whereas the clean commercially produced 'specials' will have removed the natural yeasts and replaced them with a brewers yeast. *As a side note Orchard comes from the old English ortgeard. The ort element (sometmes rendered in slightly different forms) is now more commonly rendered as obst in German, meaning fruit, The second element 'geard' is pronounced 'yard', and was the old English word for garden. So, Obstgarten in German and Orchard in English has a literal translation to 'fruit garden'. Now that of course also addresses that other Transatlantic conundrum about why the British use the word garden for the space around their house and the folk in the US use the word yard. They actually have the same etymology - they mean the same thing. So there is no real right or wrong.

[@shaunfarrell3834]

Many years ago I came across a story (probably apocryphal) dating back to the 50's in Devon of some US tourists going in to a rural pub asking what the locals were drinking and on being told it was Cider responded that Cider was a girls drink. This offended the landlord who brewed the stuff. He responded it was a man's drink if they were man enough to drink it and free of charge gave them each a quart pot. Innocuous tasting to those used to spirits it was lethal. Apparently they were found asleep in various ditches and other places, never having found their accommodation a couple of hundred yards down the road!

[@PeakTrans]

Non alcohohic cider is cydrax - originally a brand name. I haven't had it since I was a kid 60 years ago but I just checked and while it's no longer produced by the original company, other companies are producing it and still calling it 'cydrax'!

[@johnp8131]

You can still get it. Pepsi own it these days and you can get it in the west indies, if you can afford to go there?

[@helenwhitehurst398]

You might well be interested in one of the many videos with the history of the alcoholic drink "Irish Poitin" aka "Irish Moonshine" which was outlawed until sometime in the 1990's?

[@robinford4037]

My cousins hobbie is making his own cider, even to the extent of restoring an overgrown orchard (20 trees) that the owner was to old to take care off. Occasionally leaving a crate or two at my place for several months to mature (a place under the stairs which remained cold year round)

[@lesleyhawes6895]

About 80 years ago, when I was a kid, there was a non alcoholic drink with a few additions, called Cydrax, on sale in Britain, but we've never been a culture which adds spices in the quantity that the Americans still do, to apple pie or any sort of apple juice or ' Cider'.

[@Turn1t0ff]

Growing up with family near Yeovil in Somerset, cider was a part of life. I used to go to Glastonbury quite often as a young 'un (16-24 years old) and the best part for me was the Scrumpy Bus. A double-decker bus that had insane Scrumpy cider on tap. 3 or 4 pints of that stuff and you can wave your Glastonbury weekend goodbye 😅 If one wants a prime example of what Scrumpy cider does to someone, take a look at Mythyr Tydfil in Wales. The old timers who have been drinking Scrumpy (not the contemporary stuff, but the unfiltered original that has bits and sediment in it. They have bulbous noses that are gradually turning blue. That's how potent Scrumpy cider is.

[@johnnyrandom100]

you need to look at how "scrumpy" is made. At Christmas in England, Mulled Cider is quite popular. Maybe that's what you had? Cider from pears is called Perry.

[@davidhyams2769]

The video mentioned applejack, made by freezing some of the water out of hard cider and getting a higher alcohol content. In fact, there is a distilled spirit made from cider in pretty much the same way that brandy is made from wine and whisky basically begins as beer, with the alcohol being distilled off after fermentation. It's called calvados and comes from Normandy in France.

[@raycardy4843]

Oh, yeah! Calvados can be potent stuff...!

[@johnp8131]

Whilst on holiday in Somerset, Dorset and Devon I've visited a few cideries down there. One cider "maker", an ex Nun, then living near Blandford Forum in Dorset, that had previously produced cider for a Nunnery in Cambridgeshire showed me the cider apples she used and they were small sour and only a little larger than Crab Apples. I was told that in the east 'typically' a sourer eating apple is used rather than a specific cider apple, so cider from the east of England is typically a touch sweeter? Living in Cambridgeshire we have around half a dozen cider producers close by. Although my favourite at festivals comes from a little further afield and is Crones Old Norfolk Rum Cask Organic Medium Cider at 7.5% abv. Or from the West Country, Roger Wilkins Farmhouse Cider (@6% I think). Trouble is I drink them both like Ale so after seven or eight you know you've had a drop!

[@harag9]

Great video, interesting from both sides of the pond, here in the UK I always wondered why you had cider and hard cider. Interesting.

[@andrewrobinson2565]

- What do you do for a living? - I say "oh!" and "no kidding" and "really?" 😂🎉

[@junebillings9450]

Yum, cider. Lovely stuff and the first alcohol we would slyly buy as young (13/14) teenagers and also probably the first time you'd get drunk and acquire a hangover - those were the days lol! Also on a point of words meaning different things, your lemonade to us is cloudy lemonade and our lemonade is clear and carbonated, the nearest I think you might know to our lemonade would be Sprite.

[@jayweb51]

When you put apples through a juice machine, it will come out naturally cloudy; but after awhile, you notice it will settle. At that point it is somewhere between cloudy and clear; but when you put it through a filter or seive it becomes clearer, dependent upon the level of filter determines the clarity.

[@Neil-Hanson67]

Hi Steve, in Uk if you went into a pub/bar and asked for a Cider you would get an alcoholic apple or Pear drink, if you didn't want alcohol we would just ask for an Apple Juice which has no alcohol in it at all, You guys have 3 we just have the 2 variants of it, hope this helps.

[@janetbristow6895]

I used to drink 'snakebite' - cider mixed with lager. Most UK pubs won't serve it, as it tends to bring out the worst in their customers. (I would drink no more than one glass of it in an evening).

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[@RosLanta]

I love cider (alcoholic, I'm British). In the summer a chilled cider is my favourite drink, and in winter I'll occasionally make hot, spiced cider which I also highly recommend. Yes you can make cider with pears. You can also add other fruit to apple cider - berries are my favourite.

[@5Seed]

I remember watching a kids show and being confused at kids drinking cider. 😂 Like that's for adults.

[@shininglightphotos1044]

We call stealing someone's apples off their trees 'scrumping' which is probably why we call cloudy fermented cider 'scrumpy' as it isn't as processed as the clear fermented cider, so likely started off as an illicit form of alcohol.

[@Halfdanr_H]

I’m the UK non-alcoholic apple drinks are just called apple juice. Then there’s cider, which is usually between 5-8% alcohol volume. Then after that you’ve got scrumpy, a more fortified version of cider, which is usually the same alcohol volume as most wines we drink, about 12-15% volume. Then there’s apple spirits, like schnapps, about 40% alcohol volume. That’s about all the proper apple based alcohol I’m familiar with.

[@thisismyname3328]

At 7:40 -ish, that's basically what we call scrumpy; an unfiltered, natural fermentation.

[@gvigary1]

(Hard) Cider has seen quite an increase in popularity here in the UK too. In recent, years, versions flavoured with dark fruits and berries has become very widespread - basically a kids' drink with alcohol in! I like a cider on a hot summer's day, nothing more refreshing, but the commercial fizzy cider can be very gassy and hard to drink much of (especially, for me, after some over-indulgent nights in my youth), while as others have said, artisinal cider (sometimes called scrumpy) tends to be cloudy, flat and very potent.

[@elwourmo993]

in germany we have 4 drinks in this direction 1. clear apple juice (american apple juice) 2. cloudy apple juice (american cider kind of) 3, cider (imported from britan strong apple wine) 4. cidre (imported from france, less alcoholic apple wine with a lot more zest)

[@tomrainboro3728]

I make cider here in Devon. True, natural cider made from apples is here about 6.5 - 7 %. Legally anything over 8.5% is a 'country-wine' and taxed differently. 'Ciders' with very high ABV (e.g. 12%) will have added sugar. The very high alcoholic 'ciders' are regarded as glucose syrup wines, because that's what they are, plus concentrated apple juice. If you leave apple juice alone it will soon ferment to become cider.

[@Dingo-x]

When i was a kid growing up in the UK we had Cydrax which sounds similar to your Cider, that was also non-alcoholic. We have many different Ciders made from both apple and pears, most contain alcohol of various strengths!!!

[@Howay.Man.Angelica]

I'm a Geordie, but I've lived in Somerset for 22yrs. Somerset is famous for its Cider and cheese. You go to one of the cider farms around here, you'll get one of the strongest ciders around. Just ask my Dad 🤣.

[@ianmoseley9910]

Recipes for brewing cider sometimes indicate that you should put a piece of chicken in the vat as a substitute for the odd rat or two that would fall in, in the old days!

[@gavingiant6900]

Apple Cider and Pear Cider are the most common here, but there are others (Strongbow Dark Fruit is one, which is berries). Non-alcoholic ones would be Apple Juice and Cloudy Apple Juice. Just put the fruit, if it hasn't been filted use cloudy at the beginning or if it contains alcohol you put cider.

[@ianboyes4414]

We would just call your cider cloudy apple. We traditionally had a pear cider, which was called a Perry, however that term is hardly ever used, and most of what you find on the market is just called a pear cider. There are also many other fruit ciders out there now.

[@TheWebcrafter]

19:40 - Top selling cider brands in UK bars is 'Strongbow' 4.5 - 6% ABV (the world's leading cider) and 'Magners' 4.5% .

[@rolandkeys8297]

I love cider and make apple jack every year. cider is only made from apples and cider made from pears is call Perrier or Perry usually made from the Perry pear. There are a lot of other low chocoholic drinks that use other fruit to flavor them, but as long as the main fruit is apples it is still cider and if it has not got cider as its primary ingredient it is an chocoholic fruit punch often called fruit cider or fruit wine if it has an ABV greater than 7%

[@davidv.8655]

You need to look up scrumpy . Which is a product famously produced from the Devon and Cornwall region of England. I am sure it is made elsewhere as well. it is a mainly flat alcoholic version and normally much tarter sourer than the mass produced product.

[@iambenmitchell]

Jeremy Clarkson makes cider called Hawkstone Cider (as well as other alcoholic products) If you come to the UK, you must try it! Possibly the best cider on the market in the UK anyway. I was in Greece a few months ago and their cider is very good

[@davidberesford7009]

This explains it! I have seen on US TV programs (Simpsons) where cider is praised by people who shun beer. Another term to look out for is Rough (cider) which I understand to be Scrumpy with attitude. UK Cider is good.

[@steelcrown7130]

As far as your experiences with *spices* are concerned, this might help, and I haven't seen any of the British commentators mentioning it, so here goes: I'm in Australia, and what we say is basically the UK terminology with a tiny bit of extra pickiness for food marketing, SO Here, cider is always alcoholic. It is mildly fizzy, like beer. Apple juice is non alcoholic and looks like a urine sample. It's juice; no fizz. Less common is the cloudy or unfiltered apple juice - you can find it but it is usually in the refrigerated section of the supermarket, where you would find your "boutique" juices like mango and guava, or strawberry and lychee, whatever. It's also juice; no fizz. *Sparkling* apple juice is just that - pasteurised apple juice carbonated to make it fizzy and more fun to drink, but it is NOT alcoholic. It is sold in grocers as - guess what - sparkling apple juice, and it is sold along with the other carbonated beverages in the UNrefrigerated aisle. NOW to Steve's "spice" issue: in Australia in Winter, you sometimes come across a hot, sweet, spiced red wine called mulled wine, or Gluhwein (we have a lot of Germans). The Swedes have a similar thing called Glogg - in fact I think all of Northern Europe has something similar. There is also an old English tradition of mulled cider - also sweet, warm and SPICED. I suspect it also tastes good cooled on a hot day - say, at a farmer's market? Just a thought. I suspect you definitely had spiced, sweet apple juice, mulled like we would mull "hard" cider, and then sold as a specialty of the region/market/farmer.

[@eddiehutchinson66]

you can get scrumpy in the south west Cornwall + Devon regions which is very very strong cider

[@wallythewondercorncake8657]

Cider is pretty strongly associated with the West Country where I'm from. We even have a folk song about it, look up "drink up thy zider"

[@eddieaicken5687]

A lot of UK cider is sweetened, which makes it popular with teens exploring alcohol for the first time. Its also cheap and can be brutally strong. A 3 litre bottle of Strongbow or White Lightning was known as 'wreck the house'. A German version of cider is Apfelwein, which I discovered in Frankfurt. As the natural sugars turn to alcohol, and no sweeteners are added, it's not sweet.

[@reactingtomyroots]

Yeah, I could definitely see that appealing to teens!

[@briangibson6527]

My son inlaw has a bar,and once a week he gets "Rat Arsed" on strong bow Cider.

[@Krozmar]

Norwegian here, we got alot of ciders, and its made from apples, pears and other fruits, and most are alkoholic, though you might find som special ciders that are sold that are marked as alkoholfree, but they all got bubbles in them if marked as a cider, and are kind of markeded for the ppl who abstinence from alokohole. But juices are always the alkhol free drinks.

[@xboxnangable]

I tried Angry Orchard hard Cider in the US a few years ago and loved it. Luckily we can get it here in the UK now 😀 Cider in the UK can be both clear and cloudy and range in Achoholic content from 4% up to over 12% (likely much higher as well)

[@Thescottishguyreacts]

When your adding spices the only things we have is at Christmas mulled wine or similar but not usually with apple juice

[@STUFFfromthegooddays]

You should definitely watch more of Adams videos, he has some great us and uk comparison studies

[@lostkingsofanime6075]

So I think you would like spiced Cider it’s normally sold around Christmas with mulled wine. It would have nutmeg, cinnamon and is nice. I do enjoy cider over beer as I got older but will take spirits first 🍻🥃

[@trevorgreen7324]

Tons of stuff like that vis a vie American, English. We here in the rest of the world play football (Correct terminology - played with the feet). American football is played with the hands. Closest terminology would be American rugby. But we aren’t so brash. You have a World Series in baseball. Who else in the world is playing???

[@jduck1979]

There's quite an extensive selection of Cider to try, mostly English produced with a couple of Irish (Bulmers) and Swedish (Kopparberg) in the mix too. Best selling is apparently a brand called "Strongbow" in original (plain), Dark Fruits (flavoured with blackcurrant), Rosé (Pink) & "Cloudy Apple" varieties. Pear cider seems to be popular with the women. Best quality is "Aspalls Premier Cru", which is almost like champagne but made with apples Thatchers also make a variety of decent cider including "Green Goblin", "Gold" + "Katy" Other popular mass produced brands include "Woodpecker" + "Gaymer's Old English".... at the lower end of the scale is "White Cider", which is cheap trash mostly commonly used by teenagers. In recent years there has been a trend toward "fruit ciders" where the apple cider has had various other fruit flavours added to it such as berries, etc

[@jduck1979]

for further introduction to UK drinking culture, look-up an old BBC series called "Oz & James Drink to Britain" (I've found it on KZbin previously while waiting to have the spare cash to get the DVD). There are 8 episodes.

[@stevebeardsmore3303]

Just to add to the confusion in the UK we also have Apple Squash which is a non alcoholic apple concentrate to which you add water.

[@daniel-leejones8396]

English/ US English, apple juice/apple juice, unfiltered or cloudy apple juice/ cider, cider/ hard cider, simples, pear cider is correctly called Perry, although with the many alcoholic fruit drinks in the UK currently which are incorrectly called cider, such as strawberry and lime Cider and many many others, Perry is also now called pear cider, Perry is now reserved for the non carbonated alcoholic drink made from pear juice.

[@duncanbarker1885]

You can get non-alcoholic ciders but they are fermented first then the alcohol is fractionally distilled to remove the alcohol. Technically pear cider is classed as Perry

[@johnp8131]

Had some visitors from Germany, most liked our traditional ales but one didn't. So I introduced him to "Snakebite", which he loved. Unfortunately for him, as I gave him Old Rosie cider and Carlsberg Special brew mixed, he hadn't realised the strength until after the sixth pint? I suppose the combined ABV was around 8% ish? He did manage one more but we didn't see him the next day!

[@chrissampson6861]

Cider is technically apple wine - an alcoholic drink made from fruit, and was historically treated as wine. Like white wine it comes in sweet and dry versions The southwest of England is renowned / infamous for it's cider. Scrumpy is a version traditionally made from windfall apples, it tends to be very dry, crisp and refreshing because almost all the sugar is fermented resulting in about 8-10% alcohol by volume , served unfiltered and cloudy. Cider has traditionally been a lot cheaper than beer in the UK especially white cider (colour less mass produced versions) at about 7.5% abv are often sold in 2 or 3 litre plastic bottles for less than £3 so it has a reputation for being a favourite among alcoholics and teenagers. Many British people have hazy memories of ending up in a sorry state after drinking to much cheap cider at 15 or 16.

[@paulharvey9149]

For many years, anyone not drinking alcohol in a pub has stuck out a mile, as only coke, orange or bitter lemon juices have been available - though the last two are sometimes mixed with lemonade or soda. In recent years, the authorities have really clamped down heavily on drink-driving however (and now drug-driving too), and so there has been a significant increase in the availabiity of zero or near-zero percent alcohol drinks that are nevertheless served in dark bottles or pint glasses, that allow the drinker (who might be nominated driver for a group for the evening) to not stick out so much and therefore attract any negative associations or stigma, if they are not known to have had alcohol addiction issues in the past. These zero-alcohol drinks include various types of beer, lager, cider and stout; and usually include soft drinks with no more than 0.5% alcohol by volume. If you wanted a non-alcoholic cider in a pub, that's normally exactly what you'd ask for. (It used to be available in cans in the soft drinks market too, but as it is reckoned to encourage children to drink alcohol in the same way that sweet cigarettes have largely disappeared because it is believed that encourages smoking, it is now rarely seen). Cider is therefore the standard word for alcoholic cider in the UK. I suspect the reason we don't say hard cider is because that is normally understood to be scrumpy - which is normally a much rougher, less processed and highly potent drink that is normally sold directly by farmers, at the roadside... Anything that has spices or other substances added to it (besides blackcurrant juice, as cider and black is quite a popular combination), would be described as a punch in the UK - whether alcoholic or not.

[@yvonnesanders4308]

Clear apple juice, cloudy apple juice,, cider (the clear stuff), the cloudy cider we sometimes generically call scrumpy or cloudy cider 😁

[@TheBeardedQuack]

I'd like to point out we use the term cider for pretty much any alcoholic fermented fruit drink. You can have traditional apple or pear ciders, but we also have imports from Euroupe like Kopparberg and Rekorderlig. Really nice flavours such as Straberry-Lime, Mixed berries, Mango-raspberry, etc.

[@Thurgosh_OG]

You'll find most of those fruit flavour ciders are apple based cider, with added fruit flavouring or added fruit itself.

[@andyjdhurley]

'nice flavours'? Really? Can' stand them myself but they are generally just apple cider with added fruit juices. Way too sweet for my liking.

[@TheBeardedQuack]

@@Thurgosh_OG Today I learned

[@kwchalky02]

Yes, hete in UK we have clear apple joice (filtered) and cloudy apple juice and cider (alcoholic apple juice). I visited my Scottish friend who lived in USA and he said to me that if I wanted a glass of cider there I would need to ask for a "hard cider". Seemed strange to me at the time, but I understand now. Kind of makes sense as we call non alcoholic drinks a "soft drink".

[@hiitsme9042]

Love it - Anybody mentioned SCRUMPY?

[@CharlieyT95]

In Britain there is Apple juice. Then your cider which would probably be call cloudy or unfiltered apple juice. Then there’s cider which is usually carbonated and low alcohol. And then there is traditional cider which is usually quite flat and very alcoholic, which known as scrumpy.

[@kayx1340]

In the UK, if you add spices to apple juice we call it mulled apple juice.

[@ollielowe7534]

Try and get hold of a video following cider making in the UK. Something like Cider Farms - Somerset. There is a very strong cider called Scrumpy, drink if you dare!

[@sparkyprojects]

Apple juice is crushed apples, iusually filtered, f you let the apple ferment, it turns into alcohol that we call cider Horses (and other animals) have been known to get into orchards and eat apples that have fallen on the ground, and have got a bit tipsy "Scrumpy is a type of cider originating in the West of England,[1] particularly the West Country. Traditionally, the dialect term "scrumpy" was used to refer to what was otherwise called "rough", a harsh cider made from unselected apples" from wiki

[@TryptychUK]

We have non-alcoholic cider in UK too. We call it "apple juice."

[@stevedrake1965]

born in Devon my parents being farmers with an apple orchard, we grew eating apples and cider apples the cider apples we made scrumpy and wow was it strong cloudy sometimes it was green sometimes brown (non fizzy) the alcohol would hit your legs first then the rest of your body and oh boy it was good.

[@johnmichaelcule8423]

Cloudy apple juice is a seperate type of the product in the UK. I've never come across a spiced version of apple juice over here.

[@adj0191]

I used to live in France and I had an American friend. I took him for galettes ( French savoury pancakes) which you traditionally eat with cider (proper cider) haha his face was a picture when he drank it😂😂 he was like does this have alcohol in. I said obviously, it’s cider that’s what cider is. He wasn’t a big drinker either lol but I assumed he knew what he was getting

[@livvymunro1929]

I have French friends whose parents lived on a small holding in Normandy. Apples everywhere and cider was the go-to drink, even watered down for the children. They also turned quite a lot of it into Calvados, a very strong apple brandy. Alas the "sacré gouvernement" has clamped down on farmhouse Calva production and now you need a licence, much to the disgust of the older generation.

[@Otacatapetl]

Never fails to make me laugh about Americans thinking they're the world authority on the English language. Great video Steve, as always.