American Reacts Why Sweden Is Digging Europe's Largest Hole

[@speedysteve40]

I have been down the Kiruna mine to level 2 by a tourist coach. There are 5 levels and i think they said there was about 500 kms of roads in the mine. Amazing experience. There was also a museum and cafe down there for us tourist and a cinema for showing the history of the mine.

[@niclaslindman]

It is 1,5 kilometer deep 👌

[@evatornberg2082]

It is owned by the swedish state 100%

[@formatique_arschloch]

That's great 👍

[@melkor3496]

Yep LKAB ftw.

[@sulevturnpuu5491]

As I understand it, Moon was formed mostly of crust materials. When the giant balls of magma settle the heavier elements fall towards center and the crust is formed of the lighter elements. So Moon will probably be quite poor on more interesting stuff. We can find those heavy elements in Earth crust mainly because of continental drift and volcanic recicling of material.

[@mikaeljohansson101]

While I do agree with the points you're making, I wouldn't necessarily say that the 'Moon is poor on more interesting stuff'. There is, for example, plenty of evidence to suggest that the lunar surface is rich in helium-3, an isotope which could play a crucial role in the development of our future energy grids and perhaps even in future manned expeditions to distant planets.

[@michaelmay5453]

@@mikaeljohansson101 I would say that helium-3 is one of those elements that the moon doesn't have all that much of. Jupiter has about a billion times the helium-3 in comparison with the moon but we might actually need the He3 we can get from the moon to start an efficient way to get to Jupiter in the first place. So ... I guess we agree but are having different ideas of usage here. Which is interesting all in itself.

[@user-lv6rn9cf8m]

The first company that successfully gets into asteroid mining though - will instantly be richer than most countries.

[@michaelmay5453]

@@user-lv6rn9cf8m That is a claim that I find absolutely no evidence for. Getting a vehicle up there is easy enough but to mine and bring shit back... That's in the hundreds of billions of dollars range... Only governments have that kind of money they can spend and they better be really fucking sure. As in not rando on the internet sure but a conglomerate of scientists agreeing sure.

[@robertheinrich2994]

that's actually quite wrong. it's not just "the heavy metals, that went down to the earths core, it is specifically metals that were soluble in molten iron,(siderophile). so the mare are extremely rich in titanium and magnesium, and then there are special deposits, where materials that were left over came together (bluntly described), those deposits are KREEP. potassium, rare earth elements, phosphor. furthermore of course there were millions of asteroids that impacted the moon, bringing a lot of other elements back. actually, the moon is depleted of hydrogen, carbon and nitrogen, that makes using the moon for humans quite hard. but possible.

[@dannjp75]

I’ve been there! I proposed to my now wife at the Ice Hotel in Jukkasjärvi last year. The night train travels from Stockholm to Kiruna. Spectacular part of the world.❤

[@speedysteve40]

I did a similar trip on the train from Stockholm to Kiruna. I visited the ice hotel too. I stayed in a Sami hotel. Took the guided excursion coach to level 2 of the mine.

[@dannjp75]

@@speedysteve40it’s a good train journey that, apart from when the had to stop to scrape a moose off the front. Kiruna itself is a dump but the surrounding area is breathtaking.

[@speedysteve40]

@@dannjp75 Found the town people very friendly. Not a pretty town but there far worst places in the UK. Lots to do for tourist. 😀 I wish i was there longer and would been nice if I could had visited Narvik and Kebnekaise

[@Eyrenni]

After this, I must immediately listen to Diggy Diggy Hole due to your title. That's my (Swedish) humour for the day. I'll always be amused by our "ah yes, must move a town".

[@martinhegelius7445]

Mr Mc Jibbin, you are a wise person!

[@TheCutWolf]

Just recently new rare earths were found from Finland as well. To my understanding Finland has a huge storage of mineral/soil samples from all around the country and a lot of them haven't been analyzed (there are just too many samples). The discovery was made from those samples. Tbh I think Norway, Sweden and Finland have a lot of untapped potential when it comes to resources. So much to discover. The solid bedrock close to the surface might a be blessing. Until the Balrogs come out flying of course.

[@niclaslindman]

They found 7n Sweden around 19 billion ton Start mining in 2027 so are on way if found mining workers are not low on that here and earn rather well here also 48 000 a year That is a high Sallury in Sweden for we not have any Taxes in own jmhouse or homes

[@NATIK001]

The history of the semiconductor industry is insanely fascinating. The youtube channel asianometry has a ton of videos about it. Basically the semiconductor industry has a history of being a political tool and being viewed as the best way to bootstrap an emerging economy into an advanced economy. With semiconductors being the key to advanced electronics every nation on Earth wanted their own semiconductor industry. For a long list of reason Taiwan's semiconductor industry survived, outlasted and out competed almost all competitors, much of it was down to globalism and market forces though, and with globalism losing favor in recent years it is threatening the Taiwanese continued dominance as various nations are looking to restart their own industries in case of geopolitical issues. For Taiwan the semiconductor industry is both a source of huge amounts of profit and even more importantly a source of security. As long as Taiwan is the most vital supplier of advanced electronics components in the world it is in everyone's interest to keep Taiwan safe and independent from Chinese control.

[@PUTDEVICE]

think it depends on the manufacturing cost that they manufacture semiconductors in Taiwan it is a multinational company. but many countries in the west intend to bring manufacturing home because China wants to take Taiwan back.

[@hellmalm]

LKAB the mining Company that will develop this find is owned by the Swedish government it's already at positive contributor to Sweden's fiscal budget balance, to which it has paid out 1.2 billion USD in dividends in just 2022. So yes if this is even mildly successful it will mean Sweden as a country will be even richer than it is to day. This will also be very handy for the Swedish giga-factory for batteries kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHjboGVth953otE

[@niclaslindman]

Yes we strike Gold or Rare Minerals 10 billion ton of it and are start Mining it 2027 if Changed Gouverment for this have today do not take Workers from other countries so when not has enough mining workers today so not see jow get even more of them 2027 so need change to a gouverment that not hate all not from Sweden 🤔

[@tomeng9520]

Moving away from dependence on China is always good.

[@1Anime4you]

OBF literally steals other people's content and then mascerades it as their own. Also, you already reacted to a video on this very topic just a few weeks ago.

[@mrbrand4720]

8:00 You are right we are 1700 ppl but with the tech. of 2000 but we are thanks to the internet talking a lot more to each other . For if we didn't speak with each other like we are the world would go boom pretty fast

[@Lottaquizzes]

Very interesting video, and a very hard question to answer, but if there is new technology to recycle what has already been mined, then that is definitely a better option, and money should be spent there instead if it is a viable option.

[@VajrahahaShunyata]

Research into this area is already extensive and an American university project has recently found a way to separate the minerals in batteries and recycle them. Its coming. I believe it was Michigan University?

[@TheAtraxz]

The moon was mostly formed of lighter material, such as rock etc. Heavier material such as metal remained on earth.

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

Taiwan had a government who decided to invest in high tech manufacturing, it could happen anywhere if their governments wanted to. Western governments think a few years at a time, just to the next election, the eastern governments think in 50 years time frames.

[@johan749]

... not really only dicatorships think like that, its the one positive. But then a guy like winnie the poh comes along and shits all over china

[@dlind1985]

Russia must do that because they live in the Middle Ages.

[@michaelmay5453]

Yeah, that isn't true at all. Sweden has had projects with a reach of 150-200 years into the future for a couple of centuries now. Not all of them pan out and some of them were downright evil. Taiwan was late to the game and still came out ahead because they are NOT planning ahead, it's a fast moving system that shifts everything from the way people live to land confiscation and using low wage labour by external interests. Those that do not fit the mould are cast out. The west was like that up until the 70's but we have moved away from that line of thinking and are now exploiting nations like Taiwan to do it instead.

[@Paul-lc6zb]

The Swedish model or Scandinavian model is that state are the citizens and citizens the state, many say it but are just words, Scandinavia act upon it. Other models pursue wealth via one or two of the three pillars, they are politics, business and workers ( unions in Sweden's case from the begining ), I'll add royal house rulers and absolute rulers under politics. Nearly all nations leave out the third in how the nation is run, the Swedish model uses all three equally for the benefit of the state, remember the state are the citizens and ALL citizens are equal, not the American equal but equal. America and UK as an example leave out the third, Communism leaves out the second, royal houses/absolute rulers leave out two and three, think Saudi Arabia or Kim jung un. Using all three is the Swedish model. Statoil or Norwegian oil is owned by the people and run by the state which is the people :) I have always said the Swedish model is more communist than any state that has existed so far. Sorry if that is a little simplistic yet complicated in how it is written. Lastly Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland, you too Iceland are meritocracies and try to stop anything that can corrupt in your you from not being fulfilled, meaning Dad's money, area born or basic school attended. Keep learning as knowledge is king.

[@tomeng9520]

Du måste lära dig att använda mellanrum i texten. Det där är det ingen som orkar läsa. Gör om gör rätt.

[@dzzope]

The whole Artemities program relies on moon mining in the future.. Maybe not for rare minerals but certainly things that can be used to reach further out like making fuel/water/air and such. Your so right about the nature of people. The mines, it depends on the type of mine, which will depend on what exactly you are mining and what is above it.

[@mrbrand4720]

If they start to mining for different ores on the moon . This is not something that would happen soon but can you mining to much so the moon begins to have a different orbit ?

[@user-lv6rn9cf8m]

The reason why Taiwan got so into semiconductors is really interesting, you perhaps should do a video about it. Basically it was a strategy to get the US dependent on them and thus wanting to ensure their safety. The founder of the main Taiwanese company TSMC thinks it's madness that they're opening a plant in Arizona for that very reason - the US will become less dependent on Taiwan as a country. Johnny Harris made a quite good video about it titled "USA vs China, The War You Can't See"

[@Seagull6819]

Ever thought about tapping these words into search? Two. Ronnies. Swedish. Lesson. You need the four minute version!

[@micade2518]

A very interesting video showing how, due to its insatiable "need" in commodities to ensure its irresponsable way of life and comfort, humankind is hastily sawing off the branch (namely the Planet, its very own habitat!) it's sitting on. As shown in this video, treating of the same subject, by the excellent Johnny Harris about electric cars, that solve one problem by creating another one: "The Dark Side of Electric Cars" - Johnny Harris

[@dlind1985]

_Wow!_ Someone who really believes in this lie? I only thought it was the 'media.' _What will happen_ to this world is *much more* *_scarier and horrifying!_* (We now 'live' in *the End times!)*

[@potencjalnypracownik2966]

Why is McFatso waving to the viewer when he wants to stop the video? Just click pause yourself.

[@tomeng9520]

Moving away from dependence on China is always good.

[@paulclark6458]

3/4 world under water so get them from there its cost

[@jorath9644]

mining the moon is something that will happen eventually, nasa is planning a moonbase rn - but for mining you are fine with the amount the earth provides, tho for anything space related, asteroids would be the trump card - there are asteroids out there that could potenially crush the market on the planet regarding rare earths, iron and gold among others

[@niclaslindman]

Moon are with different reason create our magnetic fields protect earh so Moon are not Best place change that

[@pierrenilsson6189]

It is not like "cutting down trees to build a house". The Sapmi people herd reindeers and that is a protected business. The reindeers need to migrate and the harse environment require them to move through many different biotopes in a year cycle in order to stay alive. To block one of the migration paths would not only threaten the reindeer but the Sapmi people's way of life as well. Sweden has historically been quite nasty to the Sapmi people so it is a sensitive topic to build a huge mine which will probably destroy their culture.

[@Jonsson474]

They are businessmen and will after ventilating their dissatisfaction gladly step aside for compensation.

[@Eyrenni]

@@Jonsson474 No, they are part of our culture and history. We've seen in the past that just doing some compensation doesn't equate to the true worth of those two when they're lost. History is our cheat sheet and we need to use it as such to do better.

[@Xerdoz]

Why almost everyone in the UK is lisping?

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

Is it because they are a dwarf and they're digging a hole?

[@ImAPunGuy]

That's not the hole story

[@melkor3496]

You literally reacted to a video on this topic a month ago and you already forgot because you are acting like this is new news for you in this video. What’s the point of reacting when you don’t learn?

[@c_n_b]

Alright rainman. Some people need to learn something a few times before it sticks.