American XL Bully ban: ‘Uniquely dangerous breed of dog’

“These dogs are just highly inbred fighting pit bulls.”
The success of the 1991 Pit Bull ban is evidence the policy works, says campaigner Dr. Lawrence Newport welcoming the prime minister's plans to ban the dogs.
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[@AK-xj2di]

To many incidents with dogs, owners should be prosecuted too.

[@jacqueline4905]

Breeders and money makers. Poor dogs

[@WellAye]

Agreed. owner that can’t control his pet, jailed.

[@alridd7038]

I agree.a caution for these dogs attacking people is a joke

[@stephencollins9062]

Same with the illegal criminals entering the country via the channel.

[@byteme9718]

Prosecuted? They should have their organs harvested.

[@etanolpolice]

We need serious jail time for the owners of any dog that does harm to others.

[@nowgrownup]

And the dog destroyed

[@zakstev]

I am an 80 year old senior living in a building in Toronto Canada, which features an entire area which has been dedicated to the breeding of these dangerous dogs. The owner is a raging narcissist awaiting his time in court for assaulting me, personally. Why they allowed this situation to exist in a Senior's building is a good question. And these dogs have attacked me many times, but they must have sensed that I wasn't really afraid of them.

[@whatsupchannel3047]

Sadly the owners are very rarely aware of their dogs power ! Exercising them in childrens play areas off the leash is the most frightening sight and experience.

[@ITALZONLY89]

Bunch of snowflakes ohhhh no I ain’t man enough boohoo calm down Karen

[@lucykelly7152]

Yes! It is clearly dangerous to children! They have effectively stolen the resource, because noone would want to use it with those dogs in it!

[@ITALZONLY89]

@@lucykelly7152 snowflakes is half of the uk nation

[@WellAye]

Jail them simple.

[@evelbsstudio]

What can we expect in a nation where you can not chastise a child that does wrong. And we expect them to behave like grown up when there adults..

[@CancerianTarot]

'Mauled to death'. Those words made my stomach turn. I can't imagine walking in public thinking of all the nice things you'll do when you get home to your family and it being literally and agonisingly ripped away from you by a manufactured beast because someone fancied owning a notoriously dangerous and improperly bred beast. All owners whose dog causes harm to another human should face jail and a permanent ban from keeping pets.

[@Loubie2005]

Yeah, news channels make things sound worse, it's called fear mongering

[@DebbieAppelhans]

And all humans did animal cruelty and humans been marked by the unkindness? That animal will be a bloody murders just for thrill of man and women and kids. , blame it on animal.

[@richarddietzen3137]

@@DebbieAppelhansI guess the Terminator never scared you either.

[@CancerianTarot]

What? Your comment doesn't make sense, it's a little bit rambling. Animals are animals, they can't vocalise when they have issues. If an animal attacks, yes it's partly the owner but at the end of the day it is an animal and animals are dangerous. Animals are capable of having medical or psychological problems that, regardless of owner, can cause dangerous activity. Most dogs can be controlled physically but that is not the case with these. @@DebbieAppelhans

[@patrikfloding7985]

@@DebbieAppelhans Blame it on the animal? Who does? Still needs to be put down, and the owner going to jail.

[@md-run]

Biggest problem with the XL Bully is all the jakeballs that breed and sell them. We all know who they are, the Transit Recovery and Golf R brigade with no actual job.

[@richardburns5925]

The other team. These and other aggressive dogs, Darnall, Sheffield.

[@AdolfCrowley]

😂😂😂 good analogy

[@peterspencer4716]

2:33 🎉😊😊😊😊

[@apes4days254]

Transit recovery? More like a tinted BMW and an ASBO

[@md-run]

@BruceWayne-sz3th in Scotland they’re white down south maybe not so much…

[@GTschumacher]

If a full grown man cannot control them it might as well be a lion on a lead

[@george44987]

It’s not your sex or size that makes you control your dog

[@zedeyejoe]

Ever seen an Irish Wolfhound, teeth as long as your thumb.

[@GTschumacher]

What i mean is any dog can snap and if a human cannot restrain it should not be allowed on the streets , especially without a muzzle

[@zedeyejoe]

@@GTschumacherWell try restraining a 13 1/2 stone Irish Wolfhound. I have had 4 of them, never a problem. Your statement is nonsense.

[@rosiebottom3870]

I want to feel safe walking down the street or in a park. Even if the bully is well trained and under control, people are going to feel uncomfortable. The public shouldn't have to experience this fear - life is hard enough.

[@pnm0012]

As a dog lover , XL Bully is just muscle , teeth, and a jaw thats impossible to unlock when they bite. Owners need to face the consequences of their dogs

[@benshrimpton3428]

The jaw doesn’t lock

[@itsgeneralbuttnaked]

@@benshrimpton3428 no, but strong enough that it doesn't matter

[@alexdavies5705]

There is no such thing as a lock jaw on a dog and misinformation like this is why people are scared of dogs like this. It's a dog, it is what you raise it to be. Ban bad owners from having dogs, don't ban dogs from existing.

[@instadam864]

​@benshrimpton3428 does not excuse the fact they are extremely dangerous

[@kevlacy5306]

I've had pit bull, rotty, staff and now a Belgian malanois, All my dogs were trained, socialised properly and I never had any problems, they were just beautiful loving animals to both humans and other animals. It's how you rear and train them nothing to do with the breed, it's irresponsible owners who are clueless about animal behaviour and psychology

[@kevlacy5306]

My mates bully now identifies as a poodle. Job done.

[@Puddlesmolly]

😂😂😂😂

[@BrokenEyedVegan]

Works in other areas of life You’re a genius lol

[@moons4363]

😂😂😂

[@seancairns4947]

Pit poodle

[@kb4432]

Lame comment. Once they add compulsory microchipping and insurance, those without Will serve in jail, if their dogs attack. That's the whole point

[@dh1474]

Pitbulls & Large Dogs Pitbulls and Rottweilers make up 77% of all fatal dog bites, despite making up only 6% of the U.S. dog population Pitbulls are 2.5x more likely to bite in multiple anatomical locations than other breeds. Pitbulls are responsible for 60% of all injuries and 63% of ocular injuries. Pitbull terriers are 31% more likely to attack an unknown individual than other breeds Pitbull terriers are 48% more likely to attack without provocation than other breeds Pitbull attacks have higher morbidity rates, higher hospital charges, and a higher risk of death than attacks by other breeds. During 2005-2017, pit bulls killed one citizen every 16.7 days, totaling up to 284 Americans. Rottweilers killed over 105 days during that time period. From 2005 to 2017, Rottweiler and Pitbull attacks contributed to 76% of dog bite deaths. When comparing 2005-2010 to 2011-2017, Pitbull attack deaths have increased from 58% to 71%. Alternatively, Rottweiler deaths decreased from 14% to 7%. According to a 13-year data set, pit bulls caused 72% of attacks that killed a person 10-years and older vs. all other dog breeds put together, 28%.

[@illfingaz210]

I’ve checked your data… about as true as the bible… how is it that the US police are now using Pitbulls as working dogs due to the behaviour of the Alsatian…(mental disorder)

[@araldocattolico5601]

No one should own a dangerous dog. I have read that some of those owners have a kick seeing people scared or intimidated of their dogs. I'm waiting for politicians to enact laws that brought about jail sentences if their dogs attacks people on the streets, parks, etc, etc.

[@justinb7940]

yeah it's really gross. here in the states it is way too popular. i carry pepper spray and a knife to protect myself from these out of control animals. luckily i only had to use the spray once so far. but frequently i get chased on bike rides

[@Absuk007]

Last weekend at River Dove dale children were playing and this Chav who happened to have American bully XL not on lead kept throwing stick towards kids and dog was aggressively running towards little kids, it was a terrifying sight. Kids were running scared and the dog owner was thoroughly enjoying that. "Bad dogs always attract worst of owners"

[@ckerwin0370]

Last weekend at river Dove Dale children were playing and this chav who happened to have a labrador not on the lead kept throwing stick towards kids and dog was aggressively running towards little kids, it was a terrifying sight. Kids were running scared and the dog owner was thoroughly enjoying that. "Bad dogs always attract the worst owners". 🤡🤡 see how easy it is to make up stories karen no such thing as a bad dog just bad owners. Use your brain and understand any dog breed can be dangerous.

[@DiligentX]

Theres no bad dogs it’s the owners who make them that way.

[@diligenceeke3023]

​@@DiligentX You must be joking. There are bad dogs! The statistics in this case don't lie!

[@jj1badboy]

@@diligenceeke3023said by someone who sounds like he knows nothing about dogs

[@Absuk007]

@ckerwin0370 There is definitely a thing called bad dog. Combining bad dogs with bad owners and results can be catastrophic.

[@pemj7360]

He wants to ban a dog but won't do a thing about knife wielding thugs or the imports coming into the country every bloody day

[@Loubie2005]

Exactly

[@dh1474]

needs to do both

[@chrissietom123]

This poor breed just attracts a uniquely dangerous breed of human, get it right.. it’s 2023 and they’re still blaming the breed when, as always, it’s us bloody humans that are the cause!

[@ChrisAndCats]

Yes unfortunately. What also doesn't help is the fact they've had the stronger/more "dangerous" (for lack of a better word) traits bred into them until we've reached the current point. So couple the two together, then you get a difficult to control dog, often with owners who shouldn't be in charge of a bootlace.

[@mrmyorky5634]

There's no shortage of self proclaimed experts here who all bravely claim that there's no such thing as a bad dog. Perhaps one of them is brave enough to tell us what they would do if they were unfortunately faced with the horrifying attack on a youngster that was shown on all the TV news channels?

[@instadam864]

👏

[@LM-2005]

Those dogs shouldn't be banned, the owners of that dog breed should be thrown in jail for enabling that to happen.

[@HagiaFantasia]

Ban these dogs and jail their lazy and selfish owners

[@johnoconnor4941]

What about banning the Uniquely Dangerous Politicians also.

[@garypotter1985]

I think they are still struggling to identify their breed 😂

[@Optics2024]

Yawn

[@barastrasz4157]

​@@Optics2024 got something to say or did you brain just fall asleep

[@johnb6723]

No such thing as bad dogs, only bad owners. (Barbara Woodhouse)

[@mrp3930]

absolutely

[@justbecauseOK]

both can coexist , silly statement

[@mrmyorky5634]

Come on, Barbara Woodlouse was a joke who saw everything as Black or White.

[@TheHumbuckerboy]

Bans need to be enforced otherwise they don't work. The reason the Bully XLs are in UK society is that the ban on the American Pit Bull Terrier wasn't successfully enforced which meant that APBTs were available to then breed with larger mastiff types in order to create the Bully XLs in the first place.

[@paulfentons2850]

Just wanted to know your thoughts on if you have a pedigree neapolitan mastiff crossed with a pedigree bulldog is that a xlbully lol

[@Scoobywrx2005]

As a rottweiler owner I think they should make punishments tougher for the owner. There is no such thing as a dangerous breed, just dangerous owners.

[@anrmlumlwundlistr7620]

No such thing as a dangerous breed? Have you not listened to what the man just said? The bit about half of xl bully dogs tracing back to one notorious fighting dog. Did you nof hear that?

[@justbecauseOK]

not scientific, just your narrow opinion

[@rickyjones1296]

People don’t seem to be able to understand this situation at all…. I’m sure there our tens of thousands of good xl bully’s but here’s the thing, if your kid gets attacked by a border collie or Labrador say… you would kick that dog in the face and 8/10 it would back of instantly…. If you try kick a xl bully in the face you will get your leg ripped off. It’s really not that hard to see.

[@ITALZONLY89]

That’s why you don’t kick them 😂😂you use a choke lead and cut off the oxygen then they release swear people leaving comments used be retards

[@Now4wheels]

Exactly -these big jawed muscular dogs are frightening -why should the public live in fear of these beasts. you can see what type of dog they are -there are numerous similar breeds in this country because we are so slack.

[@george_3252]

Maybe raise your dog right so it doesn't attack anyone A bad owner will always blame their dog for their behaviour. Bad owner = bad dog.

[@Now4wheels]

@@george_3252 - with some dogs who have been bred with the instinct to fight you can have a “good owner” but the dog is triggered in the real nature under certain circumstances and because this is not recognised by the owner then when its triggered there is a catastrophe and even the “ good owner” can do nothing.

[@prakharsrivastava2522]

​@@george_3252maybe just ban the dog so it doesn't get in the hands of wrong person What other breeds you hear is tearing apart kids ?

[@sonji1]

I got savaged by my friends dog, all they cared about was protecing the dog from the feds not the chunks of flesh hanging off me.

[@wexqlp3863]

The whole debate is: “It’s not the dog it’s the owner” The problem with this statement is this. Firstly the owner of any dog that attacks will be punished. This is part of law and has been for years. The difference is this. The fact that XL bully dogs are difficult to control in an incident is like having a machete with the capability of cutting people up but blaming a killer on the road and saying why didn’t he or she’s use it in the kitchen. A machete does not have a mind of its own. The problem here is, this XL bully will end up in the wrong hands regardless. That’s the equivalent of a machete. Even if it’s 1 owner out of a 100. That one owner has the potential of manslaughter. Which means, regulating these dogs would mean, bad owners would not own such dogs and the incidents of human death would be reduced to zero. The government is not blaming the dog. They are trying to prevent these types of dogs to fall in the wrong hands. As it’s a very difficult market to regulate. It’s best just to ban it as it means no deaths. Those who defend the statement above should ask them selves a simple question. “Is owning a dog that can end up in the wrong hands worth more than a single human life”?

[@dh1474]

This is the argument that a percentage of dog owners just don't get. You'll always get some bad owners, you can't stop it. If they are allowed, fatalities and injuries will always happen. There are no reported deaths caused by pugs and poodles!

[@Now4wheels]

@@dh1474 -we never used to have these big jawed muscular breeds. These have only appeared in the last few years. I think a total ban on that type of dog and be done with it. They are dangerous! Round them up and euthanise them and stop faffing about .

[@ilSaponara]

Why not ban the kinds of people that usually own American pit bulls? It's not a problem with a particular dog breed, but rather a problem or particular cultures.

[@Kellycreator]

Exactly 😢

[@Floyd1138]

xl bullies arent classed as american pit bull terriers, hence why your watching this video

[@instadam864]

ITS BOTH

[@Old_Longshanks]

Thank you Finally someone in here understands dogs.only replicate behaviours

[@garypotter1985]

@@Old_Longshanksdogs do not replicate behaviour at all, if you have a collie puppy and keep it on its own it will still have a herding instinct, but yes dogs can obviously learn behaviour. But some behaviour is literally in built into the breed.

[@soniclady89]

What the Government could do - RIGHT NOW, is enforce that any dog - any size that has a wide mouth, HAS to wear a muzzle when out of the home at all times! That's for starters.

[@johnevans8808]

How about removing their teeth

[@malijaqueline7625]

Here in America, several people buy and carry guns specifically because of pit bulls, American bullies, rottweillers, mastiffs, and a couple of other violent breeds and their mixes. But mostly specifically for pit bulls and American bullies.

[@Anashadk]

Now everyone that do0esn´t like their neighbour´s dog will report them to the police as XL bullies.

[@endlessglizzys_.0233]

It's happened already in Luton. A friend said on his street the Police were at a house this morning he said it was an XL bully. Someone reported a dangerous dog.

[@instadam864]

​@@endlessglizzys_.0233good

[@Optics2024]

Don’t worry I’m pretty sure they’re not gonna come around and shoot your Bichon Frise

[@Enkarashaddam]

"Doesn't like owners dog" can have multiple meanings. If the dog lunged at their neighbors kids face but a delusional owner was like "oh he's friendly he doesn't hurt anybody" well then, yeah, pitbull or not the dog is scary dangerous. Pitbulls were selectively bred for bloodsports -- they have traits that other dogs don't seem to have a problem with like letting go when commanded.

[@Anashadk]

@@Optics2024 Well, they do in Denmark. In Denmark the owner has to prove that the dog does not have any of the "unwanted" genes in it´s make-up, if the owner cannot prove that in 8 days...the police euthanize the dog. Pedigrees are not proof.

[@morrisonreed1]

If the uk is going to ban pepper spray , handguns and knives then you cant have these ridiculous dogs running around .There is really no reason to breed these dogs other than human selfishness

[@toi_techno]

Any dog over 10kg should have to wear muzzle in public by law. Owner deciding their precious dog is safe is not safe for children.

[@Kellycreator]

Don’t be ridiculous. Responsible dog owners put their dogs on leads. Would you like to wear a muzzle? Why should every dog wear one? Responsible parents also teach their children not to touch dogs.

[@Kellycreator]

@@Bob-lq6dtMy son said the same thing! I’ve got Malis, a ridgeback and a chihuahua x. The little one is the worst and most likely to bite! Little dogs attack more often imho. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@LeeFall]

Tell that to my pug, she doesnt know what biting is..

[@kevlacy5306]

​@@Bob-lq6dt Makes my blood boil! The media ramps up the hysteria and all these non dog owners suddenly become animal behavioural experts.

[@Old_Longshanks]

By that logic then you should be muzzled.

[@SherShahSuri-e8u]

Im a delivery driver and almost got mauled by one delivering a parcel, the lady forgot to secure the dog and when she opened the door it went straight for me, lucky for me my bruce lee reflexes kicked in and i flew to the gate and slammed it shut before it got a chance 😮 saying that probably most dogs would have attacked.

[@instadam864]

THE PUBLIC HAVE SPOKEN!!! WE WILL NOT STAND BY AS THESE VICIOUS ANIMALS ROAM OUR STREETS DRAGGING ALONG SOME KNUCKLE HEADED CHAV WHO SEEM TO HAVE A FALSE SENSE OF CONFIDENCE. NOT ONLY DO THEY UNDERESTIMATE THE SHEER DANGER OF THIS ANIMAL THEY REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT. IT IS A MIX OF BOTH OWNER AND ANIMAL THAT IS TO BLAME

[@Absuk007]

Spot on there.

[@jacqueline4905]

Knuckle dragging arseholes are to blame. Crufts not 🤑🤑🤑🤑

[@steeny9845]

I have an American bulldog different breed to A bully already people staring and commenting it’s the owner not the dog Labrador’s and Jack Russells attack more people than any other dogs yes my heart goes out to the families that have lost loved ones ❤ blame the owners and not the dogs please 🙏

[@nowgrownup]

Don't know where you get that ridiculous information from you should write fiction novels ..Labradors do not bite and attack people ..

[@superspecky4eyes]

Id rather get bitten by a Jack Russell than an American Pitbull.

[@Ukcrime-documentary]

@@nowgrownup yeah labs do Me and my dog was attacked by 3 labs that was off lead while mine was on lead and they bite a chunk out my back leg and needed stitches !!

[@steeny9845]

@@nowgrownup owe I think they do you fool just never gets reported and my friends Labrador bit my son and he has the scar to prove it labradors have the highest number of attack rates in the canines I suggest you don’t say anymore because that hole is getting deeper okie dokie fool

[@sunnybeach304]

Most adults can easily stop jack russel attack, the same clearly cant be said with bullys@@superspecky4eyes

[@Tommy-ht5kc]

No such thing as a bad dog, just a bad owner. If you’re dog bites someone then you should be prosecuted for it. I have an XL bully that’s a big softy. He’s a great family companion dog. He’s had all the appropriate training since he was a puppy. It’s the likes of all these wanna gangsters that buy an XL bully to make them seem more intimidating and don’t have the first idea about training or keeping a dog. I think owners should need a license to own any dog. Making sure the owner had the correct training as well as the dog.

[@mrp3930]

totally agree with you but it'll fall on deaf ears and the dogs suffer, and the likes of yourself that is responsible and has properly trained your dog will have to fight for the right to keep your dog.

[@Askhsj]

You are acting against the natural order of God. Try all you like to tame a beast you may succeed but that doesn't change the nature of the dogs breed.

[@xierotron]

Xl bullies are the cutest most loyal dog it would never hurt me, sure its murdered 2 of my neighbours but hes so cuddly

[@barastrasz4157]

A German shepherd once mauled a sheep to death, guess we should ban all shepherding dogs by your logic. Or lack of it rather.

[@barastrasz4157]

A German shepherd once mauled a sheep to death, guess we should ban all shepherding dogs by your logic. Or lack of it rather.

[@xierotron]

@@barastrasz4157 i said xls were cuddly tho :p n a sheep is dinner so that's cool

[@benp1697]

But when certain groups of people have reoccurring dangerous behaviour we just house them and give them sanctuary- ironic

[@jacksonfrenchii8080]

Exactly.

[@archimedesbird3439]

They're two unrelated matters Unless you're referring to the chavs that brandish dangerous dogs

[@benp1697]

@@archimedesbird3439 despite making up 13% of the population they count as 50% of crimes ... not just UK but US too.... how can that be ?? It's the breed 😅😅😅

[@Chookwoman]

Top Answer.

[@jacksonfrenchii8080]

@@archimedesbird3439 I think he's referring to the massive over representations from "certain groups" in RP n MDR statistics here in the UK. If you can notice patterns amongst breeds of dogs, you can notice patterns amongst groups of people, no? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@NodbodRS]

What is the point of a xl bully. Its not a pet, its a image and ego.

[@Xavier-nd6tp]

That anyone would purchase and own a dog called "XL Bully" is proof the purchaser/owner needs to be put to sleep..

[@LukeMovement1]

So word games are enough of a reason for an execution? 🙄

[@markfrank3307]

So if different types of dogs can be dangerous, can different types of people?🤔🤔🤔

[@sasproductions701]

yep but they wont ban them coming into our country

[@markfrank3307]

@@sasproductions701 maybe if we vote harder we can change things

[@justinb7940]

a certain religion is more dangerous than others

[@markfrank3307]

@@justinb7940 dont name them or they will get you. They are currently attacking Russell.

[@lynnemills8470]

What about banning boat people get ur priorities right they more agressive then any dog endoff ..there are a dangerous bread whats comin over

[@seancairns4947]

100% ban all illegal immigrants

[@guyrosin4753]

Some people are confused as to what a bully is. My blue staffy was mistaken for a bully. He looks nothing like one! They even used a staffy picture on the front of some of the tabloid papers 🤦‍♂️

[@archimedesbird3439]

In all fairness, it's still a big-jawed burly-looking dog

[@guyrosin4753]

@@archimedesbird3439 he isn’t though.

[@leef8126]

Remember when staffies were the dangerous dogs? Then the Rottweiler and German Shepard. Don’t forget springer spaniels and border collies. It’s whichever dogs are popular at the time mixed with irresponsible owners. Banning so called dangerous dogs doesn’t work and never will, the irresponsible owners will just move on to the next breed and the cycle starts all over again.

[@BAYBAY_316]

I have a fair question. How do you determine what breed the dog is? DNA? Panel of " experts" ? I don't feel the question was properly answered.

[@bortstanson2034]

That's a bunch of nonsense steps, if it looks like a dangerous predators/beast " a steroidal muscles with teeth" it should be banned.

[@garypotter1985]

There are a number of things taken in to consideration and the dog will have to meet breed specific standards (even tho the bully types are cross breeds really). From the build of the body, the weight, the size of the head etc. I think you can get hold of the points of the already banned breeds and it will be pretty similar

[@jamesprivet]

Bite force test

[@discogareth]

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…

[@unreconstructed]

They use a 60 point comparison test

[@andrewgray1949]

We have had a DNA revolution since the original dangerous dogs act was introduced. Most dogs can be tested for between £60-100, which would allow non XL owners to prove, it also allows future health issues to be identified. Interestingly, Authorities in Paris do tests on dog waste to ID the culprit, which has resulted in reduced fouling and dogs being allowed back into public parks and spaces from which access was removed. If you pick up after your dog, there is nothing to fear, and it prevents the majority from being tarred with the same brush

[@glenakatsr]

Owners not picking up after their dogs should be made to eat it, the amount of sh*t I have to avoid stepping on is disgusting

[@organichuman]

There are immigrants doing the same thing on streets now and sometimes in shops even. I don't see any enforcement there though.

[@pollypoppea1944]

Bad dogs NO, Bad owners and Breeders YES

[@drinkwater9891]

same for tigers, i dont know why tigers are banned, not all tigers are dangerous, its the owners fault

[@LukeDaniel26]

​@@drinkwater9891Spaz.

[@garypotter1985]

@@drinkwater9891😂😂😂 I mean I couldn’t of put it better

[@george_3252]

​@@drinkwater9891tigers are wild animals Regard

[@naomi5893]

​@@drinkwater9891stupid argument.

[@lisainger6751]

Next is the cane corso please.

[@militarymodellerpaul5932]

This was done quickly, it’s a shame the government could do to the rest of things that really mater too.

[@ItsTheShortGuy]

My XL bully now identifys as a hamster 🐹

[@3rah356]

Please please please put down all dangerous dogs. Please !

[@johnevans8808]

Thats all dogs then.

[@d_e_v_i_l_1019]

What about the exotic or standard bully? All I hear about is XL

[@grimmgaming5693]

And what about next week when it's a different breed but the same damn owners??

[@onewomanandherdog5219]

That's why they need to get the legislation water tight this time, no loopholes.

[@oldsilver6035]

They have been abused and manipulated by breeders and owners. It's really sad. One of my best dogs ever... was one I saved from being put down.

[@Evilgreeneyes7]

The statistics don’t lie 🤡

[@traviswiles8522]

@@Evilgreeneyes7 care to show them?

[@Evilgreeneyes7]

Why you too lazy to look them up your self.

[@Nasim.87]

​@@traviswiles8522do you guys actually listen to the news? 😂

[@sammuslu2992]

I had one and 3 English bull terrier,the XL kept asserting dominance on my 3 other dogs,he wouldn't listen to me either,he frequently went for my grandkids,he wanted to be the alpha male, unfortunately he had to go......😢

[@mikerope5785]

Just ban them for people with an unserved criminal record and license them, like you do with firearms.

[@lester9448]

Someone said it's not the gun that kills but the owner

[@unreconstructed]

A gun doesn't have a brain

[@joannelewis3390]

They need to ban themselves neglecting our children and putting thousands into food poverty. Sending them into dangerous buildings.

[@jacqueline4905]

Exactly. Well said

[@dh1474]

Can do both

[@jacksonfrenchii8080]

Dead right pal

[@donnag5820]

‘Our children’…I raised my own children and didn’t think it was the responsibility of anyone else including the U.K. Government. Blame the greedy shops for food poverty or the employers for paying their employees a pittance because NO Government can force Companies to reduce prices or pay better wages.

[@nowgrownup]

Don't talk ridiculous neglecting children. one parent families get free rent ,free council tax, free school dinners ,free uniform, free health, free dentist ,free nursery they get hundreds a week in benefits and child allowance..Most of the one parent scream poverty but go to food banks in there cars then to the hairdresser then the sunbed for there spray tan ,botox,lip fillers ,nails then shopping for clothes for there Fri and Sat night out ..And if you can't afford to look after your children it's simple DONT HAVE ANY ..

[@colinpaterson9604]

Its the owners needing banned ffs.

[@dh1474]

and you'll always get bellends owning them, so the problem won't go away..

[@JT_2024-c8j]

Why would you want a dog like this? Thousands of unwanted dogs in rescue centres, hundreds of other dog breeds to choose from.

[@Urielelemental]

Succes !!! Please do get more animals off the streets in England

[@jamsams]

Yeah, like chavs and those wannabe gangsters that call themselves roadmen. Scourge on society is all they are.

[@Boyzee355]

All banned breed dogs should be put down end of.

[@janettinkler2204]

I can not understand why anyone would want to keep any animal as a domestic pet that is capable of killing a human being, seriously would you keep a lion as a pet NO, the owners of these animals that have killed people should serve a minimum sentence of 10 years imprisonment, how keen are they about letting their animals run amok if they had to serve a prison sentence !!!!!!

[@petejones9000]

And cows

[@Loubie2005]

I have one, they are amazing dogs, you wouldn't know since you probably have a pug 😂😂😂

[@dh1474]

prefer a pug, then again I feel significant without owning a potentially dangerous dog@@Loubie2005

[@johnevans8808]

Most dogs are capable of killing a human being. Most human beings are killed by other human beings, ironically no one is suggesting that we ban ourselves.

[@janettinkler2204]

@@Loubie2005 🙄

[@chriswilde7246]

They say this regarding dogs, fair enough.....but there are people on our streets who should have the same treatment, what about them?

[@sonji1]

Went to my friends house today they have always had a cat for years and now they have just decided to get a new dog, and guess what breed it is... When I asked why they chose that breed, they said for 'protection'. That says it all to me.

[@maryjanedelaney7534]

My dog is great with my cat best friends and cats, the leader of the pack

[@sonji1]

I am sure you do have nice dog, my point is they chose that dog for protection, for a reason...@@maryjanedelaney7534

[@tonyterpine5690]

As soon as the ban comes in im straight on the phone To grass some XL bully owners up 😂

[@fishmud3264]

IF ONLY THE GOVERNMENT WOULD TAKE THE SAME ACTION WITH JABS THAT DO HARM

[@rhondaquigley6332]

And peadophiles…..

[@isabelstokes4042]

Absolutely agree with banning this dangerous breed. You can put laws in place to muzzle them, but look at their claws, their muscles and their sheer bulk. A toddler wouldn't stand a chance against one of these.

[@itsdevital]

Banning XL bullys are the equivalent of banning Muslims from the UK for the potential of blowing people up. It's the owner or influence by another individual. NOT the dog!

[@marknicholson2281]

No it’s like banning guns after a mass shooting at a school. As expressed this breed was bred for aggression. You have to wonder at the people who want to own one. One of the people killed by these dogs was a professional experienced dog behaviour expert who was employed to try and train the dog to be less aggressive. It’s not just the people.

[@instadam864]

No I is not like that at all

[@ynwa3476]

How are you comparing a dog breed to a religion 😂 your brain works in strange ways.

[@garypotter1985]

@@ynwa3476he’s called maniacmike sooooooo you could be right 😂

[@Optics2024]

Lol no not exactly the same thing but a funny analogy

[@newuser738-j8c]

Why arent the owners sent to prision for 15 years if soneone dies beciase of their dog. Them only responsible dog trainers would have them.

[@paulroberts7544]

I have Beages. They're always on lead. I'm afraid of offlead dogs of all kinds. However, I remember the days when rotties were the 'weapon of choice' for thugs. When someone was killed by a dog it would be a rottie to blame. The criminals and thugs moved on to other breeds and now rotties are considered excelent family dogs. I know plenty of people that have them - slightly built young women (and old women) that have no problem handling them. I would be TERRIFIED if a bully type dog lived next door to me. But my fear doesn't give me the right to demand that someone's much loved pet is euthanized. I'd have thought the more potentially dangerous the dog is (due to size, strength) the more hurdles to ownership there should be. I tried to buy a craft knife the other day. I couldn't. Not because I'm likely to hurt myself or someone else with a craft knife. But rather because some people like stabbing people - and therefore they use things like craft knives to do things they were never intended to do.

[@borisgonstay7993]

Knives were almost certainly designed for stabbing and cutting skinny and muscle

[@richardbowen-jones3045]

This man has an underlying agenda.

[@justbecauseOK]

and that would be....?

[@big_gooch1601]

Yes I’m so happy common sense has won. 🎉

[@tyriq7328]

Alcohol is uniquely dangerous, cigarettes are uniquely dangerous

[@unreconstructed]

I choose to put those in my body. I don't choose to put dogs teeth in my body.

[@Delboy3427]

Unfortunately in the wrong hands dogs like these are used as weapons, the owner is the issue and if the XL is banned etc they will just get a different breed which will be made aggressive.

[@archimedesbird3439]

In risk assessments, severity is 50% of determining whether a risk is acceptable Assuming conditioning is fully to blame for the instances of aggression, the severity is still unmatched when it comes to bully breeds

[@mycatspethooman5590]

How about penalties that fit the crime for irresponsible owners?

[@user-bu9nb8wr6e]

There needs to be a list of dogs that are acceptable, and nothing else gets into the country. It's not hard ffs wake up.

[@jamescollins-ci6hg]

We need a list for humans to then.

[@jacqueline4905]

What about HUMANS that are unacceptable?

[@superspecky4eyes]

There's a guy with an XL Bully near me, he can barely control the thing. It basically drags him down the street. He thinks he's a badass but It's an accident waiting to happen.

[@mrp3930]

perfect example of a bad owner who can't or doesn't know how to train the dog. and accident waiting to happen.

[@superspecky4eyes]

@@mrp3930 Exactly, he just looks at you and smirks when its obvious the dog is making people uncomfortable and/or people cross the road. I've told my wife to stop walking the dog down that area.

[@Angelillo0310]

Good, about time they were banned.

[@WellAye]

Only in America is such inbreeding allowed. Not just dogs, apparently….

[@Dellboy56]

“In America, some people have begun to mate win vegetables.” - Jeremy Clarkson.

[@chayharding326]

Here's my argument the true XL American bully is not dangerous, it's what there crossed with and how there raised so identify what breeds it's crossed with and ban all breeds? You cannot keep picking on one individual breed find the people responsible, there is so such thing as a bad dog!! Only bad owners

[@tonyturner5024]

Yes ok 💩

[@garypotter1985]

I agree that somewhere along the line bad breeding has got to the core of this types behaviour. The dogs in question that have actually attacked people should have their ancestry investigated, and see if somehow that’s the link to help get to the bottom of it. But like you’ve pointed out there is a lot of breeding with different breeds to create this dog, and it’s all been done within the past 30 years or so, so it should be easy to trace

[@CAL1MBO]

You skipped Primary school?

[@kezl3037]

I know a few pitbulls and xl bullies who my kids and my frenchie loves. I also know a pitbull I won't trust around anyone. Why I do believe these attacks are from untrained dogs with bad owners I also see good owners with bad dogs. I read about the xl bully Kimbo and wonder how many offspring he has.

[@george_3252]

Couldn't agree more licensed professionals know best its time people stopped listening to these wannabe intellectuals.

[@unreconstructed]

Or you could just look at the stats.

[@Rick_Sanchez_G420]

​@@unreconstructedyou dont even know how statistics work...

[@george_3252]

@@unreconstructed yeah statistics without the consideration of their dog owners and their breeders

[@georgedonnellan36]

Dog fighting is evil, like the ppl that organize it😢

[@lukejones6813]

there just dogs, if we kept them long enough they might take out sunak

[@Nasim.87]

And to think, Rishi Sunak, walked into 10 Downing Street on his first day, with a dog. 😂

[@lukejones6813]

that wasn't even a dog lol @@Nasim.87

[@lukejones6813]

lets give him a bacon sandwich to congratulate him@@Nasim.87

[@Provocaine]

Blame the owners not the breed 🙄 Mines an American bulldog XL bully cross and the loveliest dog I've ever had

[@shellybelly35]

We banned dangerous dogs over 30 years ago (American pitbull terriers), so why has it taken multiple child deaths and adult/ owner attcks to add this breed to the list. I love dogs and animals very much, but this breed is uniquely a killer and our government is always too slow to act.

[@Felix1255-p1f]

You can slow it but I guarantee you can never stop it

[@nowgrownup]

Yes they can if banned the owners have to by law have them destroyed ..Its law

[@JennyL.I]

@nowgrownup since when did the law stop people doing things? Pitbulls have been banned over 30 years and I know lots of people who had them growing up

[@smt.mkpatel280]

Inbreeding for dog fighting and then to the death of one dog is very cruel and sad.

[@arthurdixon5890]

The country is in its worst state I have known it (I’m 73 years old) and the PM is spending (wasting) time on the issue of dog breeds!!! What is going on???

[@angryherbalgerbil]

Dogs in general are fine. The problem resides with owners. There are zero laws governing dog ownership. None that address nuisance noise, none that address training them, nine that address adequate care of them. Ultimately this allows anyone to own a dog with zero responsibilities ti keep the dog safe and to keep others safe from the dog. The amount of owners now who don't even knoe basic training or handling techniques out there, it's becoming a massive problem. Licences need introducing and regular evidence to show that the dog is responsive to commands and under control even when off the lead. This nation literally has gone to the dogs.

[@Zima-xl8he]

No dog is born uniquely dangerous. It is however an adult that chooses to breed and train a dog to be dangerous. Maybe we ought to ban the human who is the dangerous trainer.

[@suelancaster6959]

BS. All breeds are born with traits that make them what they are. Pitbulls and their offshoots were created for gameness(not the same as aggression) and you cannot train or love it away.

[@seshat1111]

NO breed is dangerous! I work at a veterinary clinic. Humans are the issue, not the dog. 🐶❤️❤️❤️

[@instadam864]

No it's a mix of both

[@1STBUCKLEY]

Of course some dogs are dangerous end of, as are humans

[@ynwa3476]

Dumb comment. Some dogs are more dangerous than others. Grown up and get yourself and education that is based on fact and not feelings. Of course some owners are bad but some breeds are simply more dangerous than others !

[@sabi3052]

Prove it by leaving your children alone with the dogs.

[@naomi5893]

​@user-lq6qh6nz6k Wrong, this dog was originally bred for companionship. But obviously, humans like to turn things into weapons.

[@abigailmcewan]

A ban is fine as long as there are adequate resources to enforce and police it.

[@eloisem.h6778]

I’m scared about what breed the ‘road men’ will target next. I have a presa canario assistance dog that so many mistake for an xl bully it’s frightening 😢

[@jacksonfrenchii8080]

Exactly. Ban the "roadmen" not the dogs.

[@dh1474]

Hope my pug is safe!

[@wolfrahmphosphoros5808]

they don't have a keen eye and/or don't know much about Dogs. I love that breed. not my fav though. regards.

[@HaggisMuncher-y2u]

@@jacksonfrenchii8080that will require sending a lot of Londoners back to Africa. Are you good with that?

[@jacksonfrenchii8080]

@@HaggisMuncher-y2u Dead F'ing right I am pal.

[@arsemyth8920]

Imo, these dogs are being bought as weapons, not companions.

[@tomjohnston1220]

Bunny, my large American Bulldog, was the nicest dog I've ever owned.

[@tTantPisForFrance]

Then it went and killed all your family.

[@snwofn6388]

@@tTantPisForFrancebro

[@astronomicallybased545]

Free up the bully

[@ckerwin0370]

No such thing as a bad dog just bad owners.

[@JennyL.I]

We will just forget about genetics and unregulated breeders

[@MarianneSmith1976]

These dogs have it bred in them to go for the throat they were also used to take down bulls that ain't a dog it's a killing machine so I'm glad they are being banned but let's see who sticks with the rule

[@ckerwin0370]

@JennyL.I you said it there bad owners and breeders it ain't the dogs fault is it does it ask to be mistreated no look at them dog whispering shows multiple violent and aggressive breeds because they haven't been trained and the man fixes the problem. Should we ban german shepards with your logic.

[@tomhas3282]

​@@ckerwin0370you're right about it not being a dog's fault. It's the people who engineered this breed. What of it though? Dogs are collateral damage here, but it changes nothing, the point stands, it's a horrible breed, no one is blaming the dogs.

[@ckerwin0370]

@tomhas3282 banning the dog doesn't do anything that's the point there will always be irresponsible breeders and dog owners there will always be cases of dogs killing people it changes nothing and tears family's apart when they have to put down their beloved family pet because of a few irresponsible animal owners.

[@creepycrawlything]

We need more focus on the defining of this "breed". The speaker in this interview suggests a fully documented breeding sequence exists, that will be used to identify members of this breed. It would be salient to hear what others have to say about this suggestion. It does concern me that the Times Radio videos I am seeing, do seem to most platform those who are campaigning against this breed; where I would doubt that not everything they claim would stand up to scrutiny by experts in the fields their claims address. My sense is that these pro-ban speakers are over-leveraging their claimed data, and shouting-down alternate voices with their claimed certainty. The speaker in this video, for example, doesn't even bother to brush aside the expert institutional voices offering an alternate narrative; instead those alternate voices are simply ignored.

[@soniclady89]

The Government could start TODAY by enforcing that ALL wide mouth breeds are muzzled when outside of their home environment... garden too! That way - no more attacks! It will give them breathing space until the ban is fully honed and made law.

[@instadam864]

No people are tired of waiting. The public want action now

[@creepycrawlything]

@@instadam864 You take up a fair populist position, where you judge that you can speak for "people", and that they are "tired of waiting". A classical strategy for pushing aside views differing from your own. People like myself and the RSPCA (etc) deemed not part of the "public". Neat.

[@nathanaelsmith3553]

Anybody who thinks these dogs should not be banned probably also thinks they should be allowed to drive an Abrams M1 tank on public roads.

[@G-Man-half-life]

Invalid argument and invalid comparison.

[@naomi5893]

Dumb comment

[@nathanaelsmith3553]

@@G-Man-half-life its a hyperbolic statement. There is some validity to it. A tank is a vehicle specifically designed for fighting and a Bully XL is a dog that is also specifically bred for fighting. You wouldn't let a civilian drive a military vehicle like a tank on a public road, so why should we allow someone take this fighting dog out in public. It's not a pet - it's a weapon.

[@marckenny3131]

That is actually a good comparison, because if you give a Abrams M1 to said scumbag, someone is going to get hurt, but without the scumbag controlling the Abrams tank, it is completely harmless👍 fantastic comparison ❤️👍

[@elizabethwilkinson2635]

Abrams M1 great my next vehicle

[@michaellaurence9966]

Good. People before animals. And protect other animals from these killers

[@Misael8924]

People are the biggest killer's genius. Have you look around you're U.K. you're Politicians. That mass migration. You don't even have a country anymore. The whole world is on chaos an you target something less important ? Gtf out here wussie😆

[@NastyNateFPS]

One fear I had never thought of was being eaten alive by a dog😬.. my concern is if an American Bulldog will be type classed along with the XL type because they are two completely different temperaments and just slightly similar in face and body

[@joshsmith8365]

@dwaynejones7266well your wrong all you encouraging this ban better not have a similar unregistered breed because it will be taken especially if it dares to bark or act like a dog. Just like all the staffies mistaken for pit bulls in the 90s early 2000s. Without any legal reproductions for the police/government.

[@Laura-fh3sc]

Why would they? They're totally different breeds lol

[@NastyNateFPS]

@dwaynejones7266 it was just a thought as he said a man was mauled to death by two xl dogs

[@NastyNateFPS]

@@Laura-fh3sc because Staffys can be typed as Pitbulls depending on their features. This ofcourse could happen to other breeds that can look similar to the XL i.e the American Bulldogs is one of the closest to have similar features to the XL, I have 2 AB they are big and similar face to the XL.

[@rosemaryhinchliffe7721]

The current legislation bans "Pitbull type" dogs and isn't enforced

[@leonbrown4344]

Bans punish the law abiding. Dr Newport needs to be sacked.

[@mealsome5079]

My whole life I have been proud to be brittish. Now, I couldn't be more ashamed.

[@ckerwin0370]

Same

[@borisgonstay7993]

Nah we need proud British people

[@Maggy47]

So you would put the dogs first not ids

[@instadam864]

Me to now that I am british citizen

[@lollybooth7008]

​@@Maggy47what's ids?