AMERICANS REACT TO THE MOST BRUTAL SPORT IN THE WORLD - RUGBY | REACTION!

[@Mozihawk]

They also play continuously for 40 minutes each half. None of this stopping every three minutes.

[@yvonnesanders4308]

Everyone thinks they're tough until the rugby lads start tackling

[@weekendoffenderr]

Ye we don’t wear body armour and helmets like they do in nfl haha

[@joshweir7198]

@@weekendoffenderr do bum eachother though

[@Jzaday]

The "head gear" isnt really a helmet haha its called a scrum cap and it is to help cauliflower ear but thats about it. Also theres a lot more stamina involved in rugby compared to football as its a 80 minute game wirh no stops (save a 15 min halftime)

[@user-ks3uu7fx2f]

WHAT? its a helmet even if its called a scrum cap you fool

[@NovaDexter]

I played 18 years. I only suffered a broken femur and CTE lol Loved every minute of it. Its for men NOT boys. Football is a watered-down version of rugby.

[@EveryTongueShallTell]

Rugby fans are a watered-down version of football fans.

[@oliverperryman7953]

​@@EveryTongueShallTellwhat, in that we are more respectful, better people in general and don't throw a hissy fit if our team loses? There's a long standing tradition of going out drinking with the opposing team and their fans. Football doesn't do that cos the fans just aren't there for it mentally...

[@EveryTongueShallTell]

@@oliverperryman7953 Lots of rugby fans are posh cunts.

[@EveryTongueShallTell]

@@oliverperryman7953 Lots of rugby fans are posh cunts.

[@oliverperryman7953]

​@EveryTongueShallTell okay?? Tf? Most are working class people like you and I, who gives a fuck if rich people watch the sport too 💀💀

[@denisescutt1865]

A real man’s game founded at ‘Rugby’ school For gentlemen. No suits of armour for us!

[@Mehbreddeh]

Some basic Rules: no forward passes unless kicked forward, no high tackles, yellow cards = 10 minutes time out, conversion time = 30 seconds, no collapsing scrums, no knockons (ball is dropped and bounces forward and is catched), have to release in a ruck, have to roll over in a ruck, offside rule, not allowed to push the ball out if it is on your own try line, penalties (don’t know most of them), rolling subs for injuries only, 23 players with 8 subs and starting XV.

[@Kitch-hu7tm]

Rugby players wear their injuries like a badge of honor.

[@rarotime5555]

You can't drop it forward. He kicked it before he went out. You need kicking skills in Rugby.

[@YvngAjay]

Sheesh 🔥

[@Clyde__Frog]

Yeah if you 'fumble' and rehandle the ball its called a 'knock-on'. You can kick it foward, which is commenly known as a 'grubber kick' but you can't handle the ball again with your hands untill it passes the try line (known as the end zone in American football). Then the player, the ball and the ground have to be in contact in the 'end zone' (passed the Try line) to score a 'Try'.

[@brentdavis3102]

​@@Clyde__FrogBut if the ball is dropped backwards from the hands it's a knock back which is play on if recovered.

[@annabrisley479]

Remember tonight is the final of the Rugby World Cup in France. In South Africa we are waiting for the cup to come home. Springboks!! 💗💗💗💗💗💗

[@dee2251]

If it came home it would come to England, where the game originated and was played for hundreds of years.

[@esterveldman4983]

Go bokke

[@jamielee240292]

@@dee2251doesn’t that make it even worse? 😅😂 Imagine introducing a sport to the countries you colonized and they end up playing better than you…

[@dee2251]

@@jamielee240292 you’re forgetting, we have won the World Cup and come pretty close to winning on a number of occasions. We also don’t play dirty like the original rules of rugby we invented state, unlike SA.

[@jamielee240292]

@@dee2251 Yes, you did 20 years ago exactly this year. Easiest pool this year too, even I was worried and thought they’d be the freshest going into the semi’s. Hell, I was even waiting for a drop goal attempt closer to the end, but nothing. And of course you’d say SA is “playing dirty”, but I’m pretty sure everyone plays according to those rules you mentioned, including England; we all watched the game. We’ve seen bad calls towards us during this WC too, but the game doesn’t stop because of it. Evolve with the game and get out of that mindset of “we invented it, it’s ours” because England shared it with everyone and everyone else is running with it.

[@shaunhovell8262]

NZ All Black Sir Wayne "Buck" Shelford will always a a rugby football legend for the 1986 injury he sustained in a match against France, while still an amateur player (no sponsorship or endorsements) 20mins into the match he was involved in a very aggressive maul where he lost 4 teeth and a french players boot tore open his scrotum leaving his testicle exposed. He calmly left the field, asked the team doc to stitch him up and he went back on the field to play. Now that's hard core 🤘🤘

[@mareeauld5778]

We breed 'em tough in NZ

[@streetcorner3451]

Bring back Buck.

[@paulliversidge7140]

This was one of the tamest rugby videos I have seen.

[@IsekaisRage666]

Rugby is the definition of “if he dies he dies”

[@stuartfaulds1580]

I remember playing Rugby at school during PE and at one point had two opposition players hanging on (one to each leg) to me and I was still moving forward. Conversely I tried a friendly muckabout game of American Football and managed to break the arm of an opposition player without touching them, it was (I think) a Lineout and the opposition player to my left was a big & beefy guy, who I bounced out of my way, this resulted on him falling on the poor chap next to him who ended up with a broken arm.

[@alidamartin9798]

Springboks (South Africa bringing the world cup home 🏆🇿🇦💪💚 NZL vs South Africa. All blacks and South Africa had always a good respectful and good relationship towards each other... All Blacks played well but South Africa 🏆

[@Mia_Jay31]

I did first aid at a couple rugby matches. I saw a player break his collar bone with the bone sticking out. Another broke two of his fingers and got straight back up to finish the game. Madly motivated players

[@waawaaaa]

3:05 to explain this, in Rugby you can't touch the line or you're considered out and he then taps the ball to keep it play since he knew he was going to go out and then scores by placing the ball down. If the ball hit the ground instead of him kicking it it would have been a knock on and the other team would be given a free kick and if you dont solidly place the ball down when you go for a try (scoring) again its considered a knock on. Player played that amazingly well.

[@TheJim9191]

6:04 - the reason this is so sick is because the guy in green who got so brutally tackled actually SCORED the try while he was being annihilated. In rugby, to score a try (equivalent of a touchdown) the rule is that you have to get the ball over the try line (into the end zone as you would say) and touch it to the ground with your hand. As long as no part of your body is touching the ground out of bounds, it counts, as long as your hand is on the ball and the ball is on the ground. So for him to score this try while in the process of getting absolutely obliterated and being basically upside down and in the air is absolutely insane skill.

[@b_trale8679]

Rugby is a complex sport here are most of the rules: Team and Players: Two teams with 15 players each. Positions include forwards and backs, each with specific roles. Object of the Game: Score points by carrying the ball over the opponent's try line or kicking it through the opponent's goalposts. Scoring: Try: 5 points for carrying the ball across the opponent's try line. Conversion: 2 points for kicking the ball through the goalposts after a try. Penalty Goal: 3 points for kicking the ball through the goalposts after a penalty. Drop Goal: 3 points for kicking the ball through the goalposts during open play. Game Structure: The game is divided into two halves, each typically lasting 40 minutes. Play is continuous, with no forward passes allowed. Tackling and Ball Handling: Tackles must be below the shoulders. Players can pass the ball backward to teammates. The ball can be kicked, carried, or passed to advance it. Scrum: A method of restarting play after minor infringements. Forwards from both teams bind together to contest the ball. Lineout: A method of restarting play after the ball goes out of bounds. Rucks and Mauls: Occur when players are on their feet and contesting for the ball. Offside Rule: Players must be behind the last foot of the ruck, maul, or tackle area. Penalties: Awarded for rule violations. A team can choose to kick for goal, kick for touch, or take a scrum. Yellow and Red Cards: Yellow cards are shown for serious rule violations, leading to a player's temporary suspension. Red cards result in a player's ejection from the game. These are the fundamental rules of Rugby Union. Variations exist in Rugby League and other forms of rugby, so it's essential to be aware of the specific rules for the version of rugby you're interested in.

[@Badgersj]

You Americans are so funny - the sound of your jaws dropping!

[@BrapMan]

Ok @3:05 the rules of Rugby are that the ball can not be passed forwards, that includes what is called a knock-on where a player lets go of the ball and then catchess it themselves further forward than when they let go of it, but you areee allowed to kick it forwards then catch it yourself.. and that is what this beautiful MoFo did right there to save the ball from going out of bounds ;) A lovely bit of quick thinking Oh, and at 6:01, you missed how impressive that was, because to score a "try" (a "touchdown" in American Football) you must not only cross the line but also touch the ball to the ground, and that guy there touched the ball down while upside down lol

[@glennmitchell8033]

To clear up the early confusion in the clip when the big dude in red looked like he dropped the ball then scored? You can’t drop the ball. If you watch closely, he kicked the ball to keep it alive, then scored the try (touchdown except you must ground the ball). I love seeing Americans watching and appreciating our sport, as much as love yours ❤

[@rarotime5555]

You guys should watch most feared team in the world and the most successful team in sports. The All Blacks. 💪🏾

[@richardpreston5260]

feared because how good they were not because of how physical they were but agree the team with carter mcCaw etc were a elite team probably the best ever my biasedness would want me to say the england 03 side was but don’t think i can as the abs were class over a decade or more

[@rarotime5555]

@@richardpreston5260 Maybe you're right. Maybe this teams a work in progress. 👍🏽

[@willemmabey464]

go the All Blacks

[@cheloxmv]

​@@richardpreston5260The AB has been the gold standard for the last 100 years.

[@esterveldman4983]

The All blacks is good,but the springboks is better

[@chuckyboy6977]

Watch Nimh’s “Rules of Rugby Union” and then sit back and watch probably the fastest, hardest greatest game of rugby I’ve ever seen, it’s France Vs South Africa in the quarterfinals from the 2023 Rugby World Cup. It’s two of the best countries going head to head and going all out. I can’t build this game up enough.

[@some129]

Disclaimer - It's 8years old so some of the rules have changed. Very good game breakdown though.

[@2tone753]

Rugby is not for self-promoters and posers. These are really tough guys and once you've seen and liked rugby games, you usually can't do anything with American football anymore.

[@thabanangin9281]

3:05 in rugby once you drop the ball you can’t pick it back up unless you kicked it, if you look closely, the players foot made contact with the ball, so the ball is still his.

[@christopherpeters6365]

Now you know why rugby players have a saying, "Soccer is for girls, football for boys and rugby for men😂 Cheers! What I love about it is that you play people from literally all over the world! 😎🤙🤙

[@relaxingpianomusic8976]

Countries were Rugby is BIG - New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, Ireland, England, Scotland, Wales, France, Italy-ish,

[@Anel3]

you guys should watch rugby World Cup games that are currently going on

[@LeSimracingDeMic]

I played during 30 years and i continue . Just a noze break and minor's injuries . We are prepared for that , no need any gears or helmets , the human body can support a massive intensity and many shoks . American football is different but i love it too . Mic , a rugby player and coach from France .

[@stephenkelly1887]

@4:16, that is Duhan Van Der Werwe playing for Scotland v England. Actually South African. but glad to have him playing for Scotland. I'm Scottish in case you haven't guessed. I played rugby once. Only once!

[@FCGT4EVER]

The head band as yous call it is actually called a headgear to protect the ears

[@IsekaisRage666]

It’s big in South Africa, New Zealand, Australia and England it’s also similar to European football or soccer in the sense that even though people might be born in one country like South Africa often times many of the people from their support other countries like New Zealand has a lot of South African supporters

[@smileyzed3843]

You can’t really tell on a screen but most of these guys are huge! When they walk into a room everyone notices

[@luciabican7948]

Some of the rules are: when the ball touches the ground you let go of it, always pass to the player behind you ( never in front always behind you ), you need to make the touchdown the same as in american football. These are just a few i remember from my brothers. Rugby is in my top 5 sports. Enjoy more of it!👍

[@dylanbourne9349]

That video was light half the stuff I have seen in rugby games can make a grown man cry I seen a game where there was just blood everywhere players with shattered cheek bones bleeding eyes the action in rugby gose crazy sometimes And lest not forget the wrong direction ankle

[@esterveldman4983]

Yap you're right

[@rocketrabble6737]

Maybe if that is what turns you on, but you cannot get away with it these days. If you punch someone in the head with full intent, you will get a red card, and your own team-mates will think you are crazy for doing it.

[@brentdavis3102]

2:00 & 3:32 is the Australian NRL/Rugby league State of origin NOT RUGBY UNION.

[@fortitudevalance8424]

Pacific Islanders teams in particular are very large and when playing for a London-based amateur team during university I got steamrolled by this big AF Fijian player. Guy was like a freight train.

[@gheddafiduck8239]

The most brutal sport is Calcio Storico in Florence, it’s literally a gladiator fight mixed with rugby, unfortunately recently they banned swords but it’s still incredible. You should look it up, you’ll love it

[@Rachel_M_]

I'll see your Calcio Storico and raise you an Atherstone Ball Game. 1 rule. No murdering.

[@Vana1970]

The guys wear pads they were a cup and mouth guard. They are taught how to tackle and it is illegal to tackle above the neck. The difference is they know it will hurt footballers are lightweights

[@JaemanEdwards]

Dope trippy beats. Really suits the action.

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

Played from when I was 7 to 20. Broken sternum, multiple ribs, dislocated fingers a few times, had to get knee surgery, broke nose in three places and had a broken collarbone over the years. Loved it but school and club rugby in Australia is far from the "gentleman game". I occasionally think about going back to playing in my 30s in some suburban masters age league but nah, hurts just to think about.

[@looking8030]

3:10 mark he dropped the ball then kicked it, it’s a knock on if goes forward out of the hands

[@colinblake6911]

A proper man's sport no padding

[@paulheenan8378]

you should check out the fastest sport on grass Irish Hurling its 3 thousand year's old and they use sticks shaped like an axe and its brutal many fights its like hockey but really fast

[@BB-ft8fj]

You guys need to check out "The best of Jonah Lomu. Think "Incredible Hulk" but a real person. Absolute monster of a man that gave us Poms nightmares just at the thought of him taking names on the wing........forget the other 14 All Black's. Born and bred Londoner but this man was a legend of my childhood. Check him out fellas 👍 RIP Sir Lomu 🙏

[@jeanm27]

Maybe you must watch Brutal Rugby Red cards, rugby fights, the rules of Rugby union, then The Rugby World Cup playoffs on Friday and the Final in Saturday. You have 3 days left 😅

[@vanessagrierson9392]

We love rugby in New Zealand! Our team the all blacks are the best in the world

[@Waywind420]

I thought for sure American Football was the tougher sport. Huge guys sprinting full speed into each other and shoulder charging, nasty stuff. But Turns out Rugby has about 3-4x the injury rate and 2.5x the concussion rate. Though I think the rate of serious injury is about the same.

[@user-ks3uu7fx2f]

lol in england we have Gypsy fights AKA Tyson fury who before been the world champion was a street fighter.

[@KhairulFadzlyAKarim]

3.07 if he touched the ball and it goes forward and fall to the ground the balls out of play but he kicked the ball at this moment. So the ball is in play and he can picked it up for a try.

[@alistairbolden6340]

The average school field is so much more brutal than most of this video. In the Uk we start playing this sort at 11 in South Africa they start at age 6. The head protection it to help a player who has ripped ears, its a common injury, a lot of Rugby players have whats called cabbage ear.

[@scelomnisi5326]

Fire video 👌🏾

[@YvngAjay]

Preciate it 💪🏽

[@kotironiwa-m5h]

bro at my school someone broke their wrist while trying to go straight in rugby (i go to tauranga intermediet)

[@darkmatter6714]

It’s an English sport, popular in England’s ex colonies like Australia, New Zealand and South Africa. And England of course.

[@aidendunkley-wy2su]

started playing rugby when i was 6 played untill i was 26 semi-pro then came off a motobike had spiral fracture, but ive seen it all (theeth gone,ears ripped off,arms/legs twisted in wrong way, eyes poped out list goes on 🤣 my time i lost 5 theeth over my years, had a dude Bite my ankle once and curb stomped him out... i do miss it.

[@johnmcintyre4241]

Hey fellas! you have your own International Team, "The American Eagles" support them and maybe they'll fly!!

[@doubletapthatdotty4597]

There’s a way worse hit compilation that this😂 that one is brutal this one is tame as hell

[@harryproctor3046]

You cant drop or pass the ball forward in rugby (if you get lucky and you drop it straight down.....its ok if it goes/bounces backwards)........you can kick the ball forward however. So that crazy try the guy scored where hes dropped the ball near the line....he kicked it with his foot forward before it bounced, perfectly fine. If he didnt touch it with his foot before the ball hit the floor, he couldn't of legally picked the ball back up. He also did amazingly well to not touch the line with the ball in hand....which if the ball's in your possesion and you touch the line in anyway...it counts as the ball being out.

[@temp2123]

Rugby is not that brutal the way you tackle your fine… been starting safety in ruby for 8 years now and only got hurt once. Played football my whole life got hurt more playing football because the pads make you just fling your body into people. With rugby you have better form so less injury

[@teela-bellz]

It's amusing that the only Polynesian people Americans seem to know are either Hawaiian or Samoan. Hawaiians don't play Rugby at this level - but Samoan, Tongan, and Māori (Aotearoa New Zealand) do.

[@richardhurst8745]

U got a Welsh rugby boy playing now. Rees zammit. Watch out for him. No pads to🤣💗

[@JoanneForde-v3i]

I have a suggestion for you,please watch irish gaelic football it's class. And also irish hurling I think you'll enjoy both😊

[@BenBallard13]

A legal tackle is anything below the shoulders and above the waist, one on one (usually)... That double guillotine tackle, top and bottom was highly illegal and very dangerous. The tackle where the guy got a shoulder to the head, also an illegal tackle. When you consider the average weight of a rugby player without pads is anywhere from 218kg to 260kg and moving at anywhere from 10m per second (sometimes over 11m per second), that gives you an impact force of about 22g's? Usain Bolt's world record 100m time puts him at about 10.43 metres per second.... But then he didn't have a ball to carry and worry about incoming wrestlers trying to get it off him....

[@brentdavis3102]

It's not a helmet It's called a skullcap more or less used to prevent cauliflower ears which is part and parcel of the game depending on your position and doe's little if anything to prevent head injuries.

[@Sh1ba_Hakk4i-1]

I'm 13 years old playing for under 15s. AND those guys,they're freaking animals. I broke a leg,a tooth and almost my back. The scrums are back breaking. I atleast got my first try,though it took a while to get used to it😊😊.

[@alittlebitoflight]

"Most brutal" vid but no scrums? No rucks? The scrum is one of the craziest things going.

[@Le_Stadt]

You could get isekai'd because these boys hits harder than truck-kun😳😳😳

[@hayliejhene]

Rugby is my love language ❤

[@jackcarter5101]

You should watch the video "10 Minutes of Nigel Owens being Nigel Owens". He's the best and wittiest rugby referee ever.

[@johnosleigh2465]

Headgear is more or less used to protect your ears to prevent cauliflower ear

[@Freddy-es4vn]

My guys check out the NRL and the Seven Series.... The highlights and big hits

[@damien_rsa24]

We ate this world cup too💪🏾🇿🇦

[@bobhope3817]

I will not comply Played prop no 3 you be surprised how much fun a good tackle is oh and night's out after a game can be wild if things kick off

[@davidhayes2567]

Dude on the right needs to tell me more about how he likes his shrimp

[@dionjames7240]

If you want to see big hits then check out rugby league state of origin Australia, New South Wales against Queensland big hits sold out crowds in a 3 game series

[@aussieragdoll4840]

Look at the video Russell Crowe just released that is a short explanation of the rules for Rugby League in preparation for the two National Rugby League (NRL) matches that will be played in Vegas on 2nd March. They will be broadcast live on Fox Sports 1 Channel. One of the teams going to Vegas is Crowe’s team (he owns it) the South Sydney Rabbitohs. The Bunnies have won 21 Premierships since the competition started in 1908. No other team in the competition comes anywhere near that total. Rugby League is different to Rugby Union. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHuzga2Ko7qNsJYsi=Wj4JNNKKzB68HKav

[@justMonkey.yy3109]

It’s not helmets lmao it’s a scum cap and it’s to help you with cauliflower ear and to stop your ear getting ripped off

[@scelomnisi5326]

Can you guys please react to “rugby steppers” next

[@sbjchef]

250lbs running a 10 second 100, no pads, no breaks in play no team rotation, 40 minute halves

[@Fadeaway88]

W vid🔥🔥🔥

[@MrCharliemcgoo]

the most brutal sport in the world was saved by the most Sexiest woman in the world Tina. “In the late 80s, rugby league - and Australia, was a very different place. The sport of rugby league was far from the multimillion dollar behemoth it is today. Still known as the NSWRL and dripping with tobacco advertising, the game realised that it needed a revamp to attract a new audience in the face of the growing threat from the south, the expanding VFL. Enter one of the most iconic musical acts of the 20th century, Tina Turner. The American superstar known as the Queen of Rock'n'roll becoming the figurehead for the - at that stage more than any other - slightly downtrodden, Australian-based working-class game.” ( Simon Smale, May 20230. 25 May 2023 Celebrating Tina Turner's chart-toppers of the great game, with Rugby League Legends of the NSWRL. Tina Turner - What you Get Is What You See 1989 & Simply the Best 1990-95, for the NSWRL. Jimmy Barnes teamed up with Tina Turner for the 1992/1993 NSWRL Campaign. To Tina Turner, Thanks for ensuring that Rugby League was simply the best ❤ VALE Tina Turner kzbin.info/www/bejne/baXRc36Xh6ajhassi=ZVeGEXAlL_WiGLsH

[@aserta]

Seems you guys stumbled upon our freight train testing program. Nothing to see here, nothing to see here. I used to play Football (not handegg) and Rugby and sometimes i'd forget which is which, got reds a couple of time because of it.

[@gmdhargreaves]

@3:00 isn’t that a forward pass???????

[@buttonbasher6638]

Yall need to react to the worlds deadlist motorcycle race… “the Isle of Man TT”

[@No_Cap_M]

Bro I am telling watch school rugby

[@NovaDexter]

rules you can only pass backwards and you can kick it forward

[@Kissameassa538]

As I know rugby there is not one player with a full set of teeth. They all have bent noses too. ❤️🇬🇧

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

I broke my nose in three places playing high school rugby. Had to get it surgically reset (basically knocked out then they jam two steel rods up the nose and straighten it by hand). The surgeon was an ex-Wallaby and he joked he was just knocking me out because I was 14 but over his career he'd reset his teammates noses after games without anesthesia. I had two black eyes the next day and very bruised cheeks.

[@facts9538]

Rugby is 80 ish mins of brutality. American Football is 4hours of adverts

[@Jason-ft6ro]

Yeah bro you guys need to watch the most brutal rugby team in the world , The All Blacks and then South Africa.

[@robertfisher736]

😊 from New zealand.

[@Fangejt]

Rugby is impressive, oh yeah. However quite a few of those tackles were illegal as hell. Cant just charge into someone with your shoulder, as you would in hockey. Any contact with the head or neck is strictly punished often by a dismissal for the rest of the match(red card) and probably even further suspension, unless there are mitigating circumstances, where you might get away with a yellow (10minutes on the sideline). Finally you cant pass forward by hand and that includes even when you drop the ball and pick it up again...

[@Vic-l3l]

rugby til I collapse

[@IsekaisRage666]

You can only pass the ball backwards otherwise people would just camp out at the try(goal) line and wait to get the ball to score

[@BigChief442]

Bro you should watch "biggest Rugby hits"

[@sqnhunter]

Two different sports here.... Rugby league and Rugby Union! Very similar games...but also vey different. Both will test a mans metal...average Aussie kid starts playing this in school around 7 - 8 years. Rugged boys fer sure!

[@MC24DB]

Rugby is English, the best league in the word is in England but its massive in Aus, NZ, France, SA and so on.

[@sabretooth5404]

The Premiership is not the best league in the world

[@Ghe2keld]

Isn´t it a bit early to have a christmas tree ?

[@YvngAjay]

It’s fake

[@lindsaystrandquist4981]

I played rugby for 2 years and as a women they are a lot rougher than the men. I stopped playing due to broken shoulder, ankles and multiple concussions. Nothing like the adrenalin of dragging 5 player down the field and scoring a try.

[@caesar3909]

And within the most brutal sport in the world, South Africa is the most dominant & successful nation, EVER!! Currently ranked number 1 & the 4 time, 4 time, 4, time, 4 time world champions. Literally never lost a world cup final we have played in.

[@tommyx6553]

That ball hit his feet so its ok! If he drops it infront of him without a leg then its a knock on and its not a try.