AMERICANS REACT TO THE RISE OF BANGTAN

[@wesandsteph6460]

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[@_kenkenken]

Loved this reaction to multiple eps in one! Will you guys be reacting to the Deleted Scenes and Bonus Content as well? Each ep besides the first has those videos to give more insight and extra content on the time period of the episode itself. It’s really good to watch alongside the episodes and see even more of what they were like/went through! I’m excited to see more of what you guys think about their journey, the things you find interesting and discuss like the mechanisms of the industry and how the members have grown and changed. Can’t wait for the next!

[@ilikehatecommentsmorethann5825]

I want you to watch till the end you missed some songs and clips

[@iamzilch]

Please also watch the Deleted and Bonus contents. And wait until the end of each video. The ending songs included are really nice too. 💜💜💜

[@GirlFun03]

You should also watch with every episode behind the scene and deleted scenes it’s always also so good and funny and i formátování etc it’s just what didn’t made it into the main vid 💜 so you can please always also watch that

[@indoraptor1982]

Can you guys react to lazarbeam next please

[@ghostaetip3494]

in 2019 festa, they talked a lot about suga being way more energetic on camera in their early days. Suga said he felt he needed to be energetic on camera to be more like a celebrity. He's definitely more comfortable these days and non of them feel the need to be something else on cam these days.

[@constanzasaucedo7045]

I feel like same happened with jin but the otherway around, he used to be more shy nd quiet to please the image of cool, cold nd hot guy that was given to him.. But got more comfortable and started being goofy and more honest as tae said in 2016

[@tabii0613]

@@constanzasaucedo7045 same with hobi too bc apparently before debut he used to be very sad guy and more down but after they debut he changed is what joon said during one of their festa :)

[@ipurpleu1668]

@@constanzasaucedo7045 Kinda. Jin has spoken about how nervous and self-conscious he was in the early days. It wasn't until Fire that he got more goofy and silly and stuff, even in his personal life, because the song taught him to not be afraid of being more free and expressive. Even the members have said that Jin was intimidating in the early days. He was never mean, but he was less expressive or willing to talk. It wasn't really a way to come across as a 'celebrity', it was more like he was feeling imposter syndrome and was very nervous.

[@lemontea417]

and jimin too, he said he was pressured to be seen as masculine and mysterious, but he found himself and realised that he should be himself even if some people don't like that

[@ghostaetip3494]

Being around cameras is not natural for most people when they are not used to them. I think its expected that the members were a bit more lost around them when they first started. Also they were so young then, so it was nice to watch them finding their personality and finding their relationship with their on screen persona.

[@kimnamjoon1454]

HOLY COW, I did not expect to see 3 ep in 1 vid. You guys are spoiling us but we are definitely loving it. Thank you guys so much for this

[@kabazinga]

26:22 someone who trained with bts has actually said how rm gathered trainees together and asked everyone to support and help each other, to have a healthy competition, but also they clashed sometimes, members have said how they are all very different people so to get the relationship they have now took a lot of work, like even rm and suga used to argue and throw clothes at each other haha

[@j4015]

17:55 hello guys. While it is true that Jin was casted in the streets, it didn't mean he automatically had a spot in the group. When he said casting, it was like an invitation for audition. He showed up for audition, he sang a song (iirc from Rooking King he said he sang a song called Hello), and Bang PD saw his potential as a vocalist.

[@Ahjusshi_Brown]

YES! BTS is heavily credited for being the first group to truly take advantage of the reach of social media. Granted, they only did that bc their company didn’t have much money to leverage their marketing and the didn’t get many opportunities from the industry. Actually, before BTS is was unheard of for an idol group to have a social media account ran by themselves, much less INDIVIDUAL social media accounts. Before them, companies completely managed an idols image and how much they interacted with the world.

[@alexis.george]

45:23 Yes, BTS is one of the few groups in the industry who have the freedom to create their own work. Most groups eventually do start exploring when they gain enough fame and establish themselves enough, but BTS is one of the few who produced and composed from day one. That's why ARMYs become long-term fans, because we know their music and their messages are from them. The fact that said messages are about self-love and discovery of self, compared to other groups who talk about more trivial things (no hate, fun songs are vital to the world), is just another bonus.

[@nathalykim1263]

jin is the shyest member of bts lol, he only came out of his shell in 2015, after they did fire he might be one of the members that changed the most with time, alongside with V, i personally would say, but you'll see

[@janae8747]

I think he lacked a lot of self confidence back then but has really come into himself since the Fire era 🔥

[@mayraalejandracovarrubiasd9530]

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[@piddi8952]

Jungkook is very sensitive when it comes to ARMY ...when he talks to them, about them or when he writes letters to them he often starts to cry because he loves ARMY so much. He grew up with BTS & ARMY thats why its the most important to him!

[@user-qd5gr8ql2w]

The reason why tae was hidden : V wasn't the last to join the group it was Jimin . And recently in one of their interviews I think it was in billboard magazine V revealed that he was sad that he was forced to not show up on cameras like the other members he always questioned himself "why me?" But bang pd said that V was their secret weapon and it was a strategy plan to get more attention to the group the moment ppl are gonna know BTS are actually 7 not 6 and it worked tae was able to double up the fandom (at least this is what I've heard)

[@Sarah-vr2jq]

From what I understand, for Jin, the company wanted his "concept" to be more cold and handsome which is very much not in his nature so he seemed a bit more sad in some logs I think because of that. Around the time of Blood Sweat and Tears era, he really dropped that and let his "true" nature of being goofy shine through. I also think they experienced a lot of hate and hardships for the first few years so I'm sure that impacted the mood.

[@janae8747]

I always wonder how conflicted he must have felt to put on this "cool, stoic, and handsome" persona when in reality he's really just a handsome nerd who loves video games and dad jokes 😅 then to add to it that he had the least experience of anyone when he joined the group, as all the other members had some sort of musical background but he didn't. So maybe that also played into him being less confident back then I'm so happy he's himself these days

[@kabazinga]

i think he himself has said it was around fire not bst

[@justagirl9607]

Yup heard from fans who saw him in real life during fan signs that Jin is unbelievably handsome in real life, but he looks very cold, that people would fear approaching him … That the only time they saw some warmth in him was when he joked around with JK …. Well now we know why ….

[@angelpaula2432]

i dont think that was an act he genuinely looked in pain to me

[@KiahRenamae]

@@kabazinga correct. It was Fire era.

[@Ahjusshi_Brown]

Suga actually said much later on that he used to push himself to be so energetic back in their debut years. So really, the Suga that we see now is the real Suga and the Suga back then was the one doing all he could to make a good impression.

[@xiomaracubillas7025]

19:30 being the center in a k-pop group is actually a position! just like being main dancer or main vocalist, a member being the center means they're good at attracting attention and their performance is worthy of being put in the center, because that's what people are most likely looking at, so he is the center of the group and is most of the time front and center in dance formations

[@katsia_rina4261]

The girl who edited this is a real pro, she’s won few editing competitions and she works for a huge company now. Much respect to her. I adore these series 😍 And thank you for your reaction 💜

[@itsskye003]

I’ll probably have a lot of comments for this one so I’ll just keep editing this one as a I watch 😆 - I love they filmed the video diaries as not only is it great for them to look back on it also helped them to connect with their fans and make them feel so much more genuine and real! It also gives us an insight to how they were feeling back them especially for army who discovered them years after their debut and want to look back on those first years - these ROB episodes also have behind the scenes and bonus content if your ever interested in seeing those! There much shorter than the actual episodes but they include lots of fun clips and more of their journey :) there’s also small behind the scenes parts at the end of each episode after the ‘on next episode’ part - Logan Paul was there bc he presented them one of their Billboard music awards 🤣 - yess BigBang are so iconic!! - One direction was put together on XFactor - Bang PD still produces music and he recently stepped down as CEO to focus on producing :) - at the start they had all seven on them in one room - This series is created and edited by Aneesa! She currently has 21 episodes and after a break from editing she is currently working in the final episodes to the series

[@iseeu3862]

Can you add about difference in age system in sk ... 💜

[@iseeu3862]

+ no bts did not have any leverage... because many other bigger companies hosted shows so that people could choose members for groups from trainees on their own... And many send their trainees to shows as a host or participant even before the group debuts...

[@itsskye003]

@@iseeu3862 if you see their video where they react to BTS answering the webs most searched questions a lot of people told them about the age system on that video :)

[@iseeu3862]

@@itsskye003 👍

[@nikicaminori1243]

i think we here the audience our role is to answer the question they ask when its actually shown on the video that they both watched. Kinda upsetting when they missed some of them but i guess we all are human.

[@Ahjusshi_Brown]

Steph you are SO right!! Korea’s biggest export (outside of tech/cars like Samsung, Hyundai, LG, etc) is their CULTURE (music, movies, TV shows, etc) and they’ve been saying that forever

[@lela1002]

I think the only members that had any kind of "following" or were known by some before debut were the rap line because RM and Suga already performed as underground rappers and Jhope had won some dance competitions with his dance crew

[@mak5566]

Also Jhope was in JYP Entertainment and he even made a debut but they transferred him to BigHit Correct me if I’m wrong about the transfers part

[@saraholadiran7005]

@@mak5566 I don't think so! Hobi was in a competition hosted by JYP he didn't win but made it to the final, when he left he went to Bighit (for the audition) and was loved (I think that is how the story was)

[@angelpaula2432]

jin was in some videos too before joining bts i think

[@TeeTop_]

@@mak5566 I know he featured in Animal by Jokwon. Is that what you're referring to?

[@marissa1341]

@@mak5566 ah that's an army rumor that took off. He was never in JYP, only in a competition that JYP hosted. He likely found out about Big Hit Auditions there though

[@kabazinga]

16:14 well for bts they were meant to be a rap group, even their debut was supposed to happen in 2011 but for some unknown reason the whole thing changed and they reorganized and rethought about their direction in 2011 (they as the company), overall only rm, suga & j-hope stayed after that, some left, supreme boi who was a trainee stayed as a producer at bighit and he still works there

[@edeng8203]

19:59 to help u clarify some things. kpop groups have positions like main dancer, centre main vocal, lead dancer, and members can be more than one thing. jungkook is the main vocal, centre and lead dancer. taehyung is the lead dancer and vocalist. hobi and jimin are main dancers and rapper and lead vocalist respectively etc. these 4 consist of the dance line but they're all great dancers ! this was just to give you some examples. thanks for reacting

[@edeng8203]

42:19 there's a lot of kpop groups that disband after a few years or there's a member change. there's this thing called the 7 year curse as a lot of kpop groups do not renew contracts after that and end up disbanding. bts are on their 9th year coming up in june and when they reach their 10th year as a group next year they'll be the only group that got that far without a member change. amazinggg

[@lela1002]

I'm feeling so selfish right now lol you literally give us reactions to all the different content we ask for and every time I see you do bts videos like this or about their music I'm SO happy but then I'm also sad because it makes me miss your run bts reactions 🤣 true first world problems

[@kabazinga]

I recommend watching until the end, episodes have post credits scenes, also bonus scenes and deleted scenes for episodes are very fun

[@lela1002]

The chapters are named after their songs and House of Cards is an amazing song by the vocalists, you should listen to it! :)

[@edwg7949]

guys I LOVE that you're watching this, but i wanted to give a quick heads up. i know you've seen the boys on run bts! where they are so happy & confident, but the journey to how they got there isn't very easy to watch. in the beginning (and till 2016/7) they were very young, shy boys who got treated horribly by the kpop industry because they came from a small company but they were surpassing groups of the big companies (which many people in power didn't like). i won't go into detail what they went through (this documentary will explain it better), but you're going to see the blood sweat and tears it cost them to get where they are now. ps: jin was a very very different person then. he was very shy & not yet the confident, goofy sunshine he is today. also, something typical in kpop is that they give the "visual" of the group a cold persona. they have to act cool and aloof & it's only since 2017 or something that jin's true, bubbly personality came out.

[@msmichellewinchester]

"As your leader, have I done something?" Please, Namjoon was being so dramatic with the acting 😭😭😭😂😂

[@iseeu3862]

When BTS debuted not many underground rappers were debuting as idols ( only two as far as i know) ... So Suga and RM were bashed really badly by the underground fans...even their friends who performed underground with them before looked down on them...

[@itsskye003]

Ahhh yess this series in incredible!! So happy your finally reacting to it, It’s the best fan made series and I love that it actually tells the story from their perspective 💕

[@bornia0386]

do u know uf they are gonna drop something today?

[@itsskye003]

@@bornia0386 idk sorry :)

[@bornia0386]

@@itsskye003 okey, thx

[@emilesam9001]

The earliest BTS variety shows before Run BTS include Rookie King, American Hustle Life and BTS in Naver Star Cast. All worth the watch. Hope u guys check them out too 😊

[@tracydowd4013]

12:26 - Hitman Bang was a composer and producer for JYP and created a lot of hits in the early 2000's and up to current times. Then he left and started Big Hit Entertainment while continuing to write and produce. He's won a lot of awards for his songwriting and producing. His music was a lot of ballads and pop, not hip hop. 18:00 - BTS hasn't had plastic surgery. And yes, the diary was real, they shared their real thoughts and feelings. 19:30 - Jungkook was trying out for a talent show and didn't make it. Probably because he wasn't ready for that, but many talent scouts saw his raw talent and potential. That is why he got all the cards. And JK was a trainee just like everyone else. RM was the one they built the group around. He was the first member and the leader. The group was a rap/hip hop group until Bang PD changed it to a Hip Hop Idol group. Jungkook was the main vocalist, and he is at the center of the dance formations. He trained very hard, and he is very talented. He has the most stable voice while dancing, that is one reason he would be in that position, not to mention his amazing voice. JK didn't have a following, he was 13 and just starting out. It wasn't until they started posting vlogs and song covers as trainees, that they started getting a following. **You skipped the end of the first episode, you guys need to watch all the way through. You are missing logs and music that you would otherwise not know about** V was in the preview at the end of the first video. 1:00:00 - They were one of the first groups to really use KZbin - social media, to connect with people. It wasn't common back then for idols to do that. They already had a fanbase at debut. You heard the ARMY's fan chants in the crowd on their debut day? That is how they got their fans. They connected with them from the beginning. If you didn't pause so often, you questions would be answered in the next minute. 1:28:47 - BTS has gotten presidential awards for cultural merit, for spreading the Korean language and culture globally, and I just realized that ARMY's are helping them, and have been helping them to do that, but creating content like what you are watching now, and spreading their music and message. Pretty cool. I don't know why I didn't connect that fact until now. 1:33:07 - Their fans follow them on social media and they buy their albums. I'm sure the performance was announced, and the album was released before their performance. But ARMY's are always there for them, even from the very beginning, which is why I'm sure they went to the show to support them. 1:42:08 - I like you STEPH - You caught on how Namjoon was being hard on himself because of the rappers giving them a hard time. He really struggled with the Hip Hop/Rapper/Idol dilemma in his own mind. I love how he works through it though. RM and SUGA came from underground rap, and they did have rap teams that they were with. All of those people turned on them when they signed with Big Hit.

[@fy3845]

Steph, love your anger at those "di#k" Hip Hop artists who were disrespecting RM & Suga! You are so right! Interesting fact: Bang SiHyuk (BitHit Founder & CEO) was furious at the way Bfree and the other Rappers disrespected RM & Suga that he went to Bfree's company to confront Bfree. He never got to speak directly to Bfree but did speak to his CEO. Bang Si Hyuk also took RM & Suga out for a meal to support them. You have to remember RM was only 18/19 and Suga was 20 at the time, while all the Rappers and others who were criticizing them where in their late 20's & 30's! RM & Suga handled themselves so maturely! (Also, out of this hate ... it gave birth to Cyphers 1, 2, 3 & 4) 😎 By the way, BFree was arrested for assaulting another Rapper on the day Suga released his very successful mixtape D2, which reached #7 on the Billboard 200! (which is amazing considering it was a free mixtape release!) Karma is ARMY! 😂

[@tinarangel34]

Oh Yeah, for sure 🤭🫰🏽🫶🏽💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🇧🇷

[@the_lucysky]

Jin was really different back then, he was trying real hard to live up to the cool guy image the company set for him and struggling in general trying to catch up with the other guys while keeping for himself whenever he was in piblic, but as time went by he learned how to let go of that and become the more free and happy person he's today. It was around the Fire era that he started to show to people was more in touch with what he really was. Either way, I'm so happy he found his way back to himself, he kinda taught that to so many of us

[@케이크러브-z6h]

Jimin was struggling with his self-esteem at the time. He was mocked by some so-called "fans" for not meeting the "Korean beauty standards" but he doesn't need that. He surpasses any beauty standard. He was always beautiful, funny, talented, and incredibly hard-working. He also has a great personality, which makes him very attractive to me. He's not even my bias, but I admire him a lot.

[@kabazinga]

14:51 when they debuted jin & suga were 20, j-hope 19, rm 18, jimin & v 17 and jungkook 15 in international age

[@aparnay6391]

Love that you guys are watching this series, it does a great job highlighting the entirety of BTS' journey in a very structured format while still making it enjoyable. Jus a tip: I'd watch to the end (cuz there are clips and tidbits in the ending after the _Next Time on Rise of Bangtan_ )

[@c.j277]

Yes please

[@nanettelo4912]

26:45 there’s actually a video called “I trained with bts: being on the brink of fame and then losing it all” where they interviewed the guy who was the last to leave its super interesting!

[@maynadiaung4292]

omg the day they revealed V as a member was June 10'th, the day of their new album/comeback. it's like they prepared everything just before their debut, and now they are preparing everything before their ten year anniversary. if you get it you get it hehe

[@saraholadiran7005]

And if you notice in their first log as Bangtan with 6 of them it is on "May 17" which is also when the "proof of inspiration" on the new album tracklist starts

[@em5522]

Wasn't he also revealed in the teaser photos a week before too (maybe not by name tho)?

[@veca875]

1:00:02 you're right on that part, they use social media to their advantage and use it to show how they are as a group and show their true selves that attracts fans even before they debut.

[@ghfjdkslaghfjdksla]

You guys got the most out of this documentary I think out of all the reactors I've seen. You clearly were thinking deeply and actually getting the points the filmmaker was making. I hope you continue this series!

[@christineabongaby8246]

38:34 Suga has said in a recent Festa (2018/19) that in their earlier days he used to try showing enthusiasm on camera but as time passed he got more comfortable being himself on camera (not that he lacks enthusiasm though)

[@stannapchupan]

Jimin was the last member of BTS but V was exposed last he's a surprise member that's why he's nickname is V for victory

[@lottie7628]

Pls Jungkook was and still the same little cute fluffball. Watching this clips just reminded me again how he was so young when they debuted. Btw this episodes have bonus and deleted scenes Pls react to them aswell. There is so much gem in those clips.

[@iseeu3862]

Random fact : Jimin was almost kicked out 8 times from the company before finally debuting, the last time being two days before their final debut... He said in a interview that even thinking about that time gives him anxiety...

[@crystalsnow1138]

I wonder why he was so close to being kicked out so many times. I mean what about him did they not think would be beneficial to the group, but thank goodness they kept him around.

[@iseeu3862]

Jimin was in school at that time ...so the dance form he did till then was different from the one they practiced as trainee. Jimin wasn't as vocally talented at time he also had the least training period. Jimin doesn't fit the typical Korean beauty standard...

[@jhopeur7219]

YES. I think it does such a disservice the way some of the intros don't talk about this because it totally misses how hard he had to work and the kind of self-doubt he had to overcome. His growth mentally and emotionally has been such an inspiration to me and I think he and Jin especially are beautiful, shining examples of the Love Myself philosophy. Jimin had a very uphill battle. He struggled with dance, had the smallest training time too, and was a non-traditional visual alongside RM and Hobi. The fact that today, he's Korea's It Boy is a movie-magic kind of story that I think we often miss the opportunity to tell.

[@ipurpleu1668]

@@jhopeur7219 Jimin was very much a visual. He was definitely one of the most talked-about members in the beginning because of his looks. Not sure where you got that from.

[@jiwoong-88]

a lot of people don't know that Jimin is the only one in the group that did not get a proper professional singing lesson during training due to the debut date but he still did very well! 👍

[@fy3845]

So happy you are doing watching this series! The chapters get better and better as you watch! Aneesa has been working on this labor of love for over 4 years! She's a professional video/movie editor. She shared she started this as her way to show her family and friends why she loved BTS so much. She is an OG Kpop fan and was a fan of BTS pre-debut. She tries hard to edit the content in a way to show how BTS/Big Hit was different than many groups and Korean entertainment companies and why the guys are so special! She also tells BTS's story using their own words from their Vlogs & content (and they have SO MUCH content to go through). She had never expected this series to get as big has it has and has been extremely stressed out about it! She took a needed mental health break from editing this series. Good for her! She will post the final 2 chapters soon. She also just shared her boss gave her some time off her busy actual work to finish this series! (Total 24 chapters + Bonus & deleted scenes which is worth watching. You guys should watch to the VERY end of each chapter because there are many funny clips that are shown along with the credits). Note: She does not monetize this series. She lets the music play out as it so the artists/company get their $$. It is truly a passion project! Also since she doesn't own any of the material she edited to make this series, it can not be on Netflix even though it's Netflix worthy!

[@itsskye003]

22:39 I think it’s pretty similar with most groups but I also think the reasons they’re showing this is to highlight the difference between Big Hit and other agencies

[@namjooningOT7]

RM, SUGA, JHOPE, JIN -JUNGKOOK, V, JIMIN,,, They joined BTS in this order, also Jin was really shy and introverted that time so he might feel different

[@spacylady01]

I don't know if anyone has said this already, but even now, with our boys being as big as they are worldwide, they STILL get heavily criticized, especially here in the states. Some people love to give their opinion about things without knowing or looking into whatever they supposedly hate so much. Even after BTS performed at the 2022 Grammys, some ppl here in the states were bashing them. So it doesn't matter how big they are or how many awards they have sadly. As Namjoon said in one recent interview, it's like they are being treated as aliens in the western music community :(

[@edeng8203]

49:17 yes taehyung was a secret weapon and bang si hyuk the ceo called him the secret weapon!

[@nalon9716]

you have the most interesting route to knowing bts. you started with their variety shows before you actually watched their live performances and MVs. :) but i actually feel like your journey was the best in getting to know them as persons and artists. kudos to you.

[@lela1002]

Wes and Steph understandably forgot some info from the introduction videos they watched over a year ago but Steph can still very precisely remember the instances when Jin went viral 🤣 "third guy from the left" was at the Billboard Music Awards in 2017 btw. This might have been when "car door guy" went viral though

[@ipurpleu1668]

Car Door Guy was a couple years later, but at a Korean award show.

[@TapMu5ic]

Hopefully you'll also react to the deleted scenes and bonus content after every episodes😊 there's a lot of good clips in those that I think you'll enjoy

[@TapMu5ic]

I'm so glad you guys started watching this docu series😊

[@jay-k-hey6633]

Steph , Jin becoming the car door guy or the third from the left happened years down the road when they went to America lol! Like 2017 or 018 lol

[@Sahh-Ara]

I love your side comments REALLY it makes watching this docu series on another level. THANK YOU!♥

[@mydogblowsbubbles]

I was just about to post a very similar comment. I really enjoyed their discussions, which were pretty similar to my own internal reaction the first time I watched these episodes.

[@iamray3]

3 chapters at once!!! omg you guys are spoiling us a lot and i'm loving it💜 thank you so much!

[@eunjinkim4559]

V was a hidden member until their debut... During group log he was present just out of the camera view... He was Bighit 's Secret Weapon

[@johnjungkook2721]

oooh capitalization

[@andreaebeling6320]

Big Bang is still very popular 17 yrs later.

[@minacruzel6387]

A bit of info: in Kpop there are 3 main companies that run the system. Those groups never have to worry about ratings or popularity because they are guaranteed it from debut. Not that they don’t work hard just they are going to be rewarded in compared to all the other company groups who don’t have that stability. Exo is one of the big 3 and black pink is also from a big3 company.

[@ellsbellsbabyy]

runch randa (as rm was called during his pre-debut underground days) was certainly very well known in the underground korean rap scene. other korean underground rappers from the time have told stories about how, even as a newcomer 13 year old, runch randa was considerably feared in the underground rap scene by grown men bc of his lyrical and rapping skill and how deep-cutting his diss tracks to other rappers could be should he be provoked. he was very popular in the scene even as a kid, and i’m sure the grown men such as those interviewers were very jealous over such things. suga under the name gloss was more locally known in the rap scene as a member of a rap group called daegu town in his city of daegu. members like v and jungkook knew of runch randa before joining bts, as well as ofc suga as a member of the scene, who had met rm before at an underground event long before bts, and he even considered him a rival for a short while, and this caused tension when they first moved in together. they were seen as the budding young poster children prodigies for the rough and tough underground rap scene by many. so i think a lot of the people on this underground rap scene were surprised when rm went on to branch out in the idol industry, consequently completely ditching the underground scene wherein he had so much fame and infamy alike. i think a lot of ppl like the men in the video considered it a “gotcha” moment that they now finally had something to look down on runch randa and by extension, gloss, for, and that was obviously the many preconceived notions in the korean underground rap scene associated with toxic masculinity and assumptions made on the integrity of an artist’s art. and that’s just their rivals and those holding grudges - those that were fans of them as underground rappers also probably held these preconceived notions and probably had a sense of entitled betrayal when runch randa became rm and gloss became suga. i believe even their old friends jumped on this hate bandwagon. in the end, namjoon and yoongi were just simply above them in skill and in personality, that’s the key to their success after all, and that’s probably still a hard pill for those underground rappers to swallow. as yoongi says in the clip, he wanted to continue rapping, writing and producing, but doing so underground would continue taking him nowhere, he would simply be prolonging his suffering and still be starving every day earning nada trying to just make ends meet, because in the underground rap scene you’re expected to either be an independent artist or sign to a very underfunded rap-specific label to separate oneself from the idol industry as much as possible. he himself had moved away from home at a young age after conflict with his family to follow his dream in proving his doubtful parents wrong and doing music, he wasn’t going to accept failure and if signing to an idol group to continue doing music was the best route, so be it. pursuing being signed to an idol company that was known for respecting artistic independence that allowed them to branch out and eventually earn well and separate themselves from the toxic attitudes in the underground scenes that they clearly did not identify with themselves was very wise.

[@jiminjungkookmin]

Jungkook looks pretty much the same as he did in 2013, just more matured, but theres so many times where he is being cute where he looks exactly the same, I hope you'll do the behind the scenes and deleted scenes from these episodes too (just like I hope you start doing them for RUN and Bon Voyage too, because you are missing out on so much without watching them)

[@anamikasharma2176]

45:24 yes Stephanie you are right . There are kpop groups who just sing and perform the songs their company give them. That's why kpop is known as corporate industry and the idols are not seen as artists. That is the reason why bts also was misunderstood by people because they are kpop group so everyone thought they are not artist. Bts are the only group where every member is involved in writing, producing and composing process in their albums. If i have to give actual example of kpop group then it will be many but one you guys know is blackpink. They come from big label formed mostly foreign members to extend other countries market. Bp was made with idea of business in mind. It not means girls don't work hard yes they practice dancing and singing and rapping but they don't contribute on their work. They sing the songs given by their company.so indirectly they are controlled by their company. I hope kpop gives idols more previlage to write their own stuff rather than make them behave like robots.

[@stannapchupan]

Jin car door guy was in 2015/2016 3rd guy from the left was in bbmas 2017

[@estercircova3005]

Im gonna cryy .......I CANT BELIEVE YALL ARE REACTING TO THIS. youre both like my comfort reactors i love yall :((

[@4sea_and_sky855]

Omg, thank you guys for this reaction!! Three Rise of Bangtan episodes all at once, you guys are spoiling us! Here's a few answers to some of your questions 😊: 19:40- No, Jungkook did not have a following from that competition show; if I'm remembering correctly, he got eliminated fairly early. One of his official positions is "center", meaning quite literally that he is most often in the center of their dance formations. Another position of his is "main vocalist", but that's very different from in the west where we think of main vocalist as the one who has almost all the lines, so he's not the frontman of the group. 21:05- Keep in mind when they say their age you should subtract one year since Korean age is different than international age, so Jungkook was only 15(!!!) at this point and Jimin was 17. 43:45- unfortunately Wes, the answer to that is simply zenophobia :/ it's much easier to criticize other, foreign cultures' practices than it is our own. 49:15- yup, V was the "secret member" of the group, and his identity wasn't revealed till debut. 50:17- That first "performance" was the rehearsal, that's why there wasn't an audience. In the actual debut performance you can hear ARMY chanting along with the song 😊 1:05:45- ARMY was officially formed and named on July 9th, 2013, just one month after the boys debuted! 1:18:22- FYI, all of the titles of the Rise of Bangtan videos are BTS song names; House of Cards is a fantastic song, I highly recommend you guys check it out 😁 1:40:35- Stephanie hit the nail on the head here, it's just jealousy and bitterness, with a dose of toxic masculinity thrown in 🙄 Loved the reaction, can't wait to see you guys do more of this series!!

[@iseeu3862]

Jennie from Blackpink was a trainee for 6 years before debut...

[@kabazinga]

12:13 bang pd used to work at jyp entertainment before, he did make some hits there as a producer so that's the origin of the nickname hitman, bang made bighit in 2005, they had some solo acts and shared some groups with other companies but nothing big, at one time the company was even close to bankruptcy, bts was kind of their last try at making it and even then it did not kick off right away, like suga has said that when he was making i need u he thought this could be their last song and comeback

[@케이크러브-z6h]

The company concept aside, Jin himself used to be quite shy, but he always tried his best to connect with fans and make us happy. I'm so glad he's more confident now 💜💜

[@bmwdjj13]

I love you both so much! It's like visiting two of my favorite people. For me, what makes the visit special is our paths were the same (minus being a KZbinr) but our destination was the same. Your reactions have been a replay of my BTS journey. BTS, truly and authentically in our hearts, our final destination. After laughing and crying for two hours, an epiphany occurred. The realization that the reason for watching a trillion reaction videos is finding the ones that make me feel this way. Thank you.

[@kabazinga]

1:35:17 these clips were all either from their first show rookie king or behind the scenes clips from their youtube channel bangtantv

[@HadassaMoon144]

Guys don't forget that the BTS members still all attended and graduated from university. Many of them are currently in a Master's program too. Most Korean celebrities and idols will still go to university regardless. It's just the culture.

[@aparna12242]

Yes FINALLY! Thank you for taking the requests! 💜 PLEASE react to the "deleted scenes" and "Bonus content" for each episode as well. A lot of iconic moments in there that should definitely not be missed!

[@moonlightningfield]

totally unexpected

[@malishac5749]

wow thank you for reacting i'm so excited for you to get to know them this way! here's some of my thoughts while i was watching with you guys to help clarify some things for you: - tae was a hidden member or the "secret weapon" as bang si hyuk called him and he was a complete surprise but people loved him straight away and he straight up doubled the fandom lol - kpop groups have "positions" jungkook is the center, main vocal and lead dancer. other positions for example are main dancer (jimin jhope). taehyung is also a lead dancer. this is called the dance line - jin revealed that he felt more himself after Fire era which is why he might seem a bit different to you. you can see this side of him on occassion now but hes said he feels like he needs to make an effort to be positive so others can be happy so he tends to hide his feelings as the eldest (this is quite common in asian cultures which brings me to my next point) - i was actually surprised how surprised you were about hearing about the lack of acknowledgement of mental health in korea i just assumed everyone knew. in asian cultures mental health is very disregarded and dismissed as something that just does not exist. so yes bts resonated with a lot of people as they were acknowledging mental health and socioeconomic crises, much like seo taiji and boys the first kpop group - bts DID leverage social media from the beginning and after their debut performance in america in 2017 a lot of groups created twitter accounts lol anyway can't wait to watch more with you!!

[@allion267]

Thank you for reacting to this! There are Deleted and Bonus scenes as well that you can watch. We would love it if you watch those as well.

[@mono-mq2ph]

jk is their main vocalist and center so he's in the middle a lot and has a lot pf parts in songs but the group was formed around RM.

[@skeletonib3269]

Every one of the reaction channels that mainly react to K-pop should watch atleast first few episodes of THE RISE OF BANGTAN series it covers not only BTS but the general K-pop industry and explains how it works not only the positives but also the negative points of K-pop

[@lovenamgi4480]

You should watch the deleted scenes and bonus clips of each episodes. You'll see the dorky side of them on those. As always I love your reaction 🥰💜

[@hadeeqa1999]

V was not shown until bts debut he was a hidden weapon of BTS

[@kabazinga]

10:27 from the auditions this video was made for v joined as a trainee, rm, suga, j-hope, jin and jungkook were already trainees then

[@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive]

This was an emotional rollercoaster. The Rise of Bangtan is pretty damn accurate.

[@malishac5749]

i appreciate how much you're reacting to i would also recommend the bonus and deleted scenes for each chapter! i also recommend watching till the end if you want some funny clips in the credits.

[@rachelarora_]

DAMN!!!!!!! 3 in 1... You're spoiling us now we want more i am very excited to watch the rise of bangtan series with you guys because i am a new army as well and i am watching it for the first time as well with you guys!!

[@lela1002]

You're honestly the first reactors I saw that noticed how the editor of this series wanted to show how "normal" k-pop stars are brought up and how different bts' way was in comparison :)

[@alexis.george]

1:43:03 The way I always thought of this was, BTS received so much criticism regarding this issue because they were the easiest to hate on. Other groups had large companies backing them, and even if they didn't, these smaller less popular groups weren't relevant enough to shit on. BTS, who came from underground and were making their name as "hip-hop idols", were the easy target. Not to mention the fact that RM and Suga, the former most especially, had built up a name at such a young age going against older more experienced rappers. At 13, Kim Namjoon had everyone shaking in their boots. And now he rules the world as the leader of the biggest boyband 🔥

[@carolineorendain2012]

To Wes and Steph, pls dont think everything you have seen with BTS is the norm w Kpop. I dont know any kpop group who put out albums, singles and ep almost every few months, especially during their early years while the fact remains they dont have easy access to TV show program compared to kpop group from other big companies. They had to utilize KZbin then when it was not yet the famous way to promote in South Korea. That is the reason why BTS got famous internationally first before Korea recognized that BTS is bigger than who they though is big in Korea.

[@iseeu3862]

MC for music shows are other idols... BTS themselves have also been host to many music shows...

[@StarlightStella613]

ARMY was officially created on July 9th, 2013. It's an acronym standing for "Adorable Representative M.C. for Youth" and it's meant to stand alongside BTS (Bangtan Sonyeondan = Bulletproof Boy scouts). The thought is that BTS's message is to protect youth from harsh criticisms, stereotypes, and whatnot that are aimed at adolescents like bullets. And because ARMY joins the battle beside them to continue protecting the people who need it, we are the Representative Main Commentator(s) for the youth and powerless. Taehyung (V) was kept as a secret member until debut because of his skills - when he auditioned he rapped, sang, danced, played the saxophone, and acted. Bang PD kept him as a secret because he also didn't want another company to try and steal him. Basically he lived in the dorm with everyone and was fully involved in the process but he was not filmed until it was time to debut. Jimin's comment about returning to school after debut is a little sad, but he didn't necessarily "go home". He meant he returned attending the high school he enrolled in after moving to Seoul - he was born and raised in Busan, as was Jungkook until they moved to the capital. It's understandable that they missed their families, Busan is (I believe) two hours away by car, and that's not even the furthest since Yoongi (SUGA) and Taehyung (V) both were born and grew up in Daegu which is even further from Seoul than Busan. Jin seemed sad in that log of his because he was the baby of his family and he was responsible to take care of six others without much (if any) experience or know how. He didn't know much about responsibility or leadership because he was the youngest, in fact most of the members are the youngest of their families, save Jimin, Namjoon, and perhaps Taehyung. Independence is a little different in Korea from what I recall, I believe most things I've seen reflect that the children don't necessarily move out at 18, instead they continue to live with their parents and go to work/college. I also do appreciate the commentary because most of what you're saying is true, but when the lyrics are going on (such as when N.O. was playing for their performance) it's very important to read the captioned lyrics very carefully because they place meaning super deep within the song. I believe you missed a critical message during part of Suga's verse because you were speaking to one another and not focusing on the captions. I could be wrong, but it looked like you were not paying attention.

[@madeleinet-mcgarty2292]

omfg I'm so happy you've done this! please keep continuing this series!

[@liza2561]

Yes Jin's personality has changed the most compared to the other members. Sure everyone has changed in some ways but Jin oh lord on another level. He used to be so shy and timid and awkward and even the members always mentioned how he's one of the quietest guys in the group. But as time passes by he has found himself and has gained a lot of confidence in himself and all this happened bc of his own effort. He has become more confident in himself and is so much more relaxed and... Himself these days. Everything in him has changed for better. His singing his charisma his love for himself..everything and I am so proud of him for being able to do this and find himself. He is still a mysterious person to me though. He is open but knows how to be private, gives us a lot of information about himself but never the big ones, is funny but also deep, loves us to death but knows know to keep boundaries and doesn't hesitate to oppose us. He is mysterious to me. Anyways this became a rant hah I just love him so much. I also think the member's support and love for him made him able to do all this and I am so grateful he has the 6 guys in his life. I just love him so much and I love bts so much

[@ghostaetip3494]

Think about this, bts is the only active band that debuted in 2013. All the others are disbanded

[@pennyyoung3997]

You might like to also react to deleted and bonus clips. They are very funny.

[@marija-katarinajukic708]

YEEEES!!! YOU ARE DOING IT FINALLY! This is making me so happy! I'm sure some people already said it, but PLEASE do deleted scenes and extra content that each episode has. They are usually slightly more lighthearted and goofy, and then also expand on some of the themes of the episodes (for example that interview where RM and Suga were disrespected.)

[@mooni_moni7857]

I love that your reacting to this now, an absolut must for learning their story and Anessa is a legend. Please also consider reacting to the Deleted and Bonus scenes to get even more of a look into their lifes.

[@dusksatanofinsomnia]

i hope y‘all keep doing three episodes of the series at once because i think it‘s. really cool way of going about it and i‘m ngl, i love your guys‘ longer bts reactions so much!

[@tkiread8721]

3 episodes in a row!? Thank you!! 🤩

[@7pm26]

Been a kpop fan since 2011 and following BTS since their debut ; it's funny to see your reactions to how South Korea culture is around school and how the Kpop industry works. Some people trained for between 7 and 10 years,a lot wanted to give up but I'm glad they didn't (thinking of Bangchan from Stray Kids or Jihyo from Twice,she trained for 10 years and she's only 25 now,she trained since she was 8)

[@marj4185]

I really appreciate these long reaction videos for BTS. You're amazing! I love your smart commentaries. Hope you will include the bonus and delered ROB contents too. 💜

[@sggarn29asianchoice55]

The thing with kpop artist is that they still need to go to school despite their busy schedules as an artist. Just like BTS during their training and debut years on top of their busy schedules of performing, recording and practices they still need to finish their schooling. When they debut Jungkook was in middle school, v, jimin, Jhope and rm were in Highschool and Suga and Jin were in college. And now some of them are taking masters degree in their field and jk just graduated college with honors and v and jimin also graduated college with honors about two years ago. That is why for me they are a perfect role model for the youth. Coz they were able to achieve their dreams as artists without sacrificing their education. They were able to overcome all hardship and negative criticisms and turned it to positive one. That is how help people around them and their fandom. BTS is the first boy band that I really followed wholeheartedly. I love them so much and so proud of them and their achievements. And so withARMY family which love BTS unconditionally. Happy and proud to be a part of this family (BTS and ARMY). 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🫰🏻🫰🏻🫰🏻🫰🏻🫰🏻🫰🏻🫰🏻

[@shannonslutzky4754]

Thanks for doing 3 at once. All 7 members shared that room,there were3 bunk beds and a single. The group was actual based more around namjoon, not JK. Jk is the main vocal but he was the 5th one to join. I love this series because it’s showing them speak about so much themselves. And it also shows the difference of Big hit vs the other companies, that’s why it flipped back and forth…big hit gave more freedom

[@suem433]

RM and Suga are not the primary producers of BTS. They are the primary producers within BTS. Pdogg is the primary producer. There are many producers, including BTS members.

[@gonzalespangs7140]

So glad that you guys decided to watch this series! Hope you can learn more about them through these videos❤

[@falak4046]

"Hitman Bang" is basically our Nick Fury who collected all Heroes and put them in a team.. Avengers