Ammar's argument with Misha during the Stockholm Major

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@cornflakes3071
@cornflakes3071 2 ай бұрын
Meanwhile taiga is chilling and chewing and analyzing the bet lol
@awtzzzzzzz2151
@awtzzzzzzz2151 Жыл бұрын
If you specialize in certain heroes then you make those heroes exceptional.
@SenthilKumar-yx8up
@SenthilKumar-yx8up 10 ай бұрын
And once they're banned, you play an ez 5v4 game. Which is exactly what they did
@Nostalgia---7777
@Nostalgia---7777 7 ай бұрын
ummmm yesn't yes skill on heroes matter but meta is a huge thing notice who they react on picks and ban in a patch some hero is god tier depending on meta ex: zoo meta ti7, razor bloodstone meta(forgot when), toxin meta ti7, rat meta (alliance days) and many more ....meta matters thats why we patch
@awtzzzzzzz2151
@awtzzzzzzz2151 7 ай бұрын
@@Nostalgia---7777 I create meta and don't follow it most of the time. That is why you see these pro players picking odd heroes in a different position because the see the win rate trend and follow it. Some players leads some follows.
@Nostalgia---7777
@Nostalgia---7777 7 ай бұрын
@@awtzzzzzzz2151 WHAHAHHA wht? what do you mean you create meta u ice frog? lmao
@awtzzzzzzz2151
@awtzzzzzzz2151 7 ай бұрын
@@Nostalgia---7777 It's like this for people that don't understand, you play the hero in a certain position where it looks broken. Hence you specialize, it might look like a troll or grief but a win is a win and players that look at trends will take notice. They can't deny that it works accross brackets. And then you see heroes like supports being played as core or in a different role. It doesn't always have to do with icefrog. It's abusing game mechanics and layers.
@eugeneseah9873
@eugeneseah9873 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, Ceb and Ammar carried the shit out of OG in the major. Conflicts aside
@gabrielpautu9975
@gabrielpautu9975 Жыл бұрын
Agreed after Amar left seems like OG are loosing their fire
@kuzankuzma2721
@kuzankuzma2721 Жыл бұрын
​@@gabrielpautu9975and with ammar too, without OG he becomes bad player, OG need ammar and ammar need OG
@mateibusuioc5868
@mateibusuioc5868 Жыл бұрын
​@@gabrielpautu9975 indeed. That s why Ammar is going back in Div 2 with Nigma and OG is going to Berlin major. DK Dragon Lance that s all I got to say
@ds3654
@ds3654 Жыл бұрын
​@@mateibusuioc5868 The reason they're going to div 2 if because they have two washed players in kuro and mc who were once great players but aren't all that good now
@putranugroho838
@putranugroho838 Жыл бұрын
​@@ds3654 yea its really sad to see how brilliant sumail is, even tho he's playing with 4 plank but he still playing at his best
@schneeraizor7020
@schneeraizor7020 Жыл бұрын
At this point ammar is half right, wndd isnt umba, ceb made her imba
@Jeed92
@Jeed92 11 ай бұрын
wndd isnt umba. This broke my brain
@schneeraizor7020
@schneeraizor7020 10 ай бұрын
@@Jeed92 sprry mmte, kybard brkeen
@Jeed92
@Jeed92 10 ай бұрын
@@schneeraizor7020 np my brain also broken now
@schneeraizor7020
@schneeraizor7020 10 ай бұрын
@@Jeed92 fair
@Midnightproduction23
@Midnightproduction23 10 ай бұрын
ur brain broken
@duellinkskogdecks6089
@duellinkskogdecks6089 Жыл бұрын
There's a fine line between a signature hero and the right meta hero. If all it takes for you to win a game is to play a hero at 70% capacity, and you can do it, then you go for meta picks. If not, always go with signature picks that you know u can play at 95-100%. Ammar and misha is half right here.
@thelivingstrongestebola
@thelivingstrongestebola Жыл бұрын
ceb is like : nah this kids know nothing
@harmane.c.4033
@harmane.c.4033 Жыл бұрын
Pretty wise comment
@CA-oe1ok
@CA-oe1ok Жыл бұрын
If you need to win TI, either you have your signature heros as meta. OR adapt to play the IMBA heros better. Ammar needs to understand this. Otherwise his wins are just luck.
@Standardgrinching
@Standardgrinching Жыл бұрын
How to perfectly kiss the ass of both sides. Sounded smart supported both didn’t land on a decision
@honglee6880
@honglee6880 Жыл бұрын
80% at least. 70% wont cut it according to dota wiki. Get your facts right noob.
@tyo007
@tyo007 Жыл бұрын
for those that didn't watch the Ceb interview, actually this is a sign where someone so passionate and care and really love the game. It's just the expression that needs to be "modified" and I like that perspective. Sometimes we just don't know what to say and just say something that might look offensive
@MetalmcBiff
@MetalmcBiff Жыл бұрын
It’s all about polishing the social skills. Ammar clearly is severely lacking in that department at several parts of the documentary, but he’s often right when arguing the point. As you say, if he just modifies his choice of words, his future becomes so much brighter
@kusog3
@kusog3 Жыл бұрын
@@MetalmcBiff look where he is now though
@MetalmcBiff
@MetalmcBiff Жыл бұрын
@@kusog3 I haven't seen his communication skills improving either though, hahah.
@kuzankuzma2721
@kuzankuzma2721 Жыл бұрын
​@@kusog3if we compare him with a human like you his life still 1000% better right? he still get a lot of money 🤷🏻‍♂️
@farrel_ra
@farrel_ra Жыл бұрын
​@@kuzankuzma2721 and he's 18 💀
@himdailungpamei983
@himdailungpamei983 Жыл бұрын
Ammar read the mood correctly here, if they tried to play the meta with the meta heroes they would get destroyed by other teams who are doing the same thing but are ahead. They needed to be unpredictable in their lanes but not too crazy. They are playing with a standin who needs to play comfortably, so they gave him his comfort heroes. Ammar needs to play his comfort heroes because he has to play freely and perfectly to accommodate Cebs heroes. In the end, Ceb played amazingly because Taiga and Ammar adapted to the heroes he could only play. Incredible teamwork and prep by OG
@Champigne
@Champigne Жыл бұрын
Ammar needs to play his comfort heroes because he can't play anything else. Case in point he could not keep up at all when a lot the heroes he played got nerfed and was completely unable or unwilling to adapt to the meta in TI.
@klvn1416
@klvn1416 Жыл бұрын
U mean ammar the 5 pool hero😂
@ayaalnovgorodov8619
@ayaalnovgorodov8619 Жыл бұрын
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes"
@jjcrpytaps5271
@jjcrpytaps5271 11 ай бұрын
Wtf bro
@satyam168
@satyam168 8 ай бұрын
lmao
@jamesdebenham7787
@jamesdebenham7787 7 ай бұрын
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, THE JEDI ARE EVILLLLLL
@realbrhancitygeming22
@realbrhancitygeming22 14 күн бұрын
Goated
@rfcgaming7250
@rfcgaming7250 Жыл бұрын
What ATF want to say that they should pick comfort hero. Like notail or ceb did when they won ti. They ask there player or player will suggest what they want to use.
@ermariebalbontin2302
@ermariebalbontin2302 Жыл бұрын
right. what's the point of having a meta hero if the player is not comfortable with it. Bonus if your signature hero is also meta at the moment
@phyo.lin19
@phyo.lin19 Жыл бұрын
Misha sounded like kuro. That was one big red flag to have him captain again next season.
@darkdiablo1601
@darkdiablo1601 Жыл бұрын
at least Kuro was very good at his peak, Misha is average
@christiankent6949
@christiankent6949 Жыл бұрын
kuro’s just old, the guy played like almost 20 yrs of dota. he gotta give it to the next gen.
@joweebird1993
@joweebird1993 Жыл бұрын
​@@christiankent6949 i think as long as puppey plays kuro will also
@briansiallagan1923
@briansiallagan1923 10 ай бұрын
Tf is wrong with kuro, dude was TI winner + 2times TI finalist. If now he is old, and so with notail & ceb, they all about to retire soon. Why compare him with misha 😅
@ramsesiv5342
@ramsesiv5342 10 ай бұрын
in a game's pro scene where players retire young, old captains😊 should be feared.
@masdan5422
@masdan5422 Жыл бұрын
Understanding of a Hero, is really have big impact on the game
@dennisrodriguez3689
@dennisrodriguez3689 6 ай бұрын
For those who don't know, they not only won that game, they won the tournament.
@MrLifeIsAwesomeForUs
@MrLifeIsAwesomeForUs Жыл бұрын
this is just normal classic argument in dota,
@w33dh4xor
@w33dh4xor Жыл бұрын
Well he was right, windranger wasnt imba.They used it well got Ceb is so good with it They won in big part because of Ceb and Ammar
@SlowDownImWhite
@SlowDownImWhite Жыл бұрын
The shard was imba with the correct setup which Ceb showed in this tourney. He literally had a 90%+ win rate in a tourney with WR....
@petelcguitar
@petelcguitar Жыл бұрын
​@@SlowDownImWhiteonly one loss with WR ....I F Ceb was using it. Other teams tried it, it didnt work My point is, ammar was right, it wasnt imba or anything, the shard is not imba, its just its Cebs signature hero
@SlowDownImWhite
@SlowDownImWhite Жыл бұрын
​@@petelcguitar The shard WAS imba, no other team had prepared for WR shard or any setups for it only ceb played it nobody else tried it because they didn't realise how strong it actually was. OG: picked WR 10 times (won 9) BB: picked WR once (won) Thunder: Picked WR once (loss) WR is not cebs sig hero far from it since he was mainly a pos3 player, ceb had just been playing a crazy amount of WR games before the stockholm major because he realised the shard was stupid (and why it got nerfed straight after the major). So no, Ammar was not right he just has an attitude problem and that's one of the reasons he was removed from OG (and why he's back to playing pos3 for NGX).
@samuelelias5115
@samuelelias5115 Жыл бұрын
@@SlowDownImWhite No, Lina in our last patch was IMBA, picked every game by everyone or banned. That is IMBA. One guy picking it 10x and one teams picking 1 or 2x isn't IMBA. If it were then it would be first pick/ban like some other supports on our last patch like treant.
@petelcguitar
@petelcguitar Жыл бұрын
@@SlowDownImWhite i told you If ceb was using it. It looks like it is imba. 9 out of 10 when Ceb uses it. But look at other teams record with WR support. Can you not understand? I can't with this guy And by the way, OG did not kicked ammar. Ammar left.
@snl.99
@snl.99 Жыл бұрын
Legend one said , whoever win the mental warfare he win the game . THIS IS DOTA 2 AMMAR
@jhoncarlobanal115
@jhoncarlobanal115 Жыл бұрын
Ammar is strong in the game but weak in the mind.
@muhdsoleh4052
@muhdsoleh4052 Жыл бұрын
he won the major
@riduma
@riduma Жыл бұрын
​@@jhoncarlobanal115 weak in the mind when he wins games while tilted?
@wigipaigan8182
@wigipaigan8182 Жыл бұрын
​@@muhdsoleh4052Ceb won the Major. Have you seen the statistics? With Misha subbed by Ceb or Chu they have 90% wr? Got carried by a substitute. Ammar is bad for any team
@ILoveRamen444
@ILoveRamen444 Жыл бұрын
​@@wigipaigan8182 ummmmm OG is getting worse since ammar left, no?
@yuujilee2778
@yuujilee2778 Жыл бұрын
i still love the old og
@kurtcollado7169
@kurtcollado7169 Жыл бұрын
Bro everybody need to understand ammar is not an offlane player smh
@amirulkhairi2716
@amirulkhairi2716 Жыл бұрын
Hes not any role player. Hes like a pub player playing heroes that he only knows
@rfcgaming7250
@rfcgaming7250 Жыл бұрын
​@Dabfow you can add some hero to ammar's pool now. Brood, pango,
@rinderurulade5785
@rinderurulade5785 Жыл бұрын
​@@rfcgaming7250 he aint playing those
@HenriqueNewsted
@HenriqueNewsted 8 ай бұрын
@@rfcgaming7250 (???) He never plays Brood or Pango, wtf
@Visimecus
@Visimecus 7 күн бұрын
..
@DanDaveFaeldonia
@DanDaveFaeldonia Жыл бұрын
Ceb is the real IMBA ❤
@LMAO-zi7xe
@LMAO-zi7xe Жыл бұрын
Ammar without misha won some lan tournaments
@DungHoang-ev7er
@DungHoang-ev7er Жыл бұрын
I disagree because Misha worked from home. Don't ignore his contribution.
@youtubeguy9529
@youtubeguy9529 Жыл бұрын
@@DungHoang-ev7er Ammar held the team together, without him they going Div 2 now
@mrunlisted1890
@mrunlisted1890 Жыл бұрын
Misha fkin garbage shud have not let ammr go
@anthonypanangui1971
@anthonypanangui1971 Жыл бұрын
@@youtubeguy9529 yea, nigma is in Div2 right now while OG kept their status and qualified for Berlin Major 😂
@allencanlas5891
@allencanlas5891 Жыл бұрын
​@@youtubeguy9529 check liquipedia from time to time bro and stop dickriding poor Ammar, he already has a lot of holes to accommodate.
@azimpetra
@azimpetra Жыл бұрын
didnt he have small hero pool which was the problem.
@wiiiLLm
@wiiiLLm 9 ай бұрын
They're both have points to be honest, some games you win because you're just ridiculously good at playing that certain hero and sometimes because its the meta. I believe those successful teams are able to balance both argument.
@yahikopain3866
@yahikopain3866 Жыл бұрын
I have to say I am a long time fan of Nigma specially when they added Sumail, its basically my favorite Carry (Miracle) and my favorite Mid together, when Miracle rested I was still rooting for them but then Ammar Happened.. and Now I dont know
@rfcgaming7250
@rfcgaming7250 Жыл бұрын
Nigma will rise again. 😁 Im a nigma fan bec of miracle. After i saw this vdeo i think ammar have something to pull off. Look at what happen to OG now.
@anthonypanangui1971
@anthonypanangui1971 Жыл бұрын
@@rfcgaming7250 so what happened to OG now? Hahaha they qualified to Berlin Major and Nigma went to Division 2 😂
@Beploziu
@Beploziu Жыл бұрын
Not even three gods can carry Kuro and MC at their levels now, so washed up lmao
@Ganymede686
@Ganymede686 Жыл бұрын
This is why u insta ban Meepo on W33, Magnus on Ar1se, Kunkka on Attacker, Invoker on Miracle, Mars on Collapse, Storm on Sumail, Puck on Mikoto, Tinker on Kiyotaka. Becauss those guy can make those heroes fucking looking imba bcoz its was their signature heroes.
@fauziabubakar995
@fauziabubakar995 Жыл бұрын
Mikoto? Div 2 sea player?
@BSchilli2AgriculturalWeapon
@BSchilli2AgriculturalWeapon Жыл бұрын
and BSchilli2 Riki
@daudfnu3253
@daudfnu3253 Жыл бұрын
@@fauziabubakar995 wtf , dif 1 sea and one of the best Mid player in the World not just on Regeion
@lolez4218
@lolez4218 Жыл бұрын
@@DarthJarJarBinks_ what are you trying to say. he is right.
@yy-zw6qr
@yy-zw6qr 11 ай бұрын
​@@fauziabubakar995malingsial spotted
@louuu3201
@louuu3201 10 ай бұрын
before dota2 and there was just "dota" when we play 5man in a caffe for betting games i always ask my team mates what hero can they use i ask them for at least 3 hero and then pick the hero that can sync in to other heroes , i dont let them use heroes that are strong but they cant use it smoothly this sounds dumb for someone playing as a captain for his team but we manage to win alot of games because of it and i am proud of my team mates even if they were 1.3k-2.3k mmr when dota2 becomes the thing and they enemies became 3-4k mmr they can still say we beat you in a 5v5 beforr 😊
@bingshavebeenchilled
@bingshavebeenchilled Жыл бұрын
ATF spot on
@Da3monSpade
@Da3monSpade Жыл бұрын
Ammar is right. Back in the days, players that excels the most we call them imbas. If a hero was played at 100 it can win 1v5. He's just reminding us of the potential of what a hero could do in a game. I'm missing those times.
@xavierazad
@xavierazad Жыл бұрын
Imba is short for imbalanced, which means overpowered because they haven't been properly nerfed yet.
@winnerman3535
@winnerman3535 Жыл бұрын
@@xavierazad u noob 😂 herald kid ..go play dota with bots. Imba mean imbalance which mean if a hero is out of balance. I.e- cannot be killed and other hand he is killing
@jamesdebenham7787
@jamesdebenham7787 7 ай бұрын
​@@winnerman3535you literally just repeated what he said in a different way you absolute weirdo
@JustineUrata
@JustineUrata Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you play a meta hero that's not comfy to play. Signature heroes are the ones you master rather then picking some fcking buffed up heroes you don't even want to play
@rippleban
@rippleban 11 ай бұрын
What documentary is this and where can i watch it?
@SatrioBudiDharmawan
@SatrioBudiDharmawan Жыл бұрын
signature hero vs META has a huge difference when it's a team that plays, not some pubs. Signature can be META with the team.
@mza3544
@mza3544 Жыл бұрын
Toxic or not, ammar knows the game. That's all I'll say
@Yssa60
@Yssa60 Жыл бұрын
Mao ba? Kabugok ana
@k4nna.525
@k4nna.525 Жыл бұрын
​@@Yssa60 human nakadaog man silag major diria?? Unsang maingun nimo ana?
@enki5228
@enki5228 11 ай бұрын
​@@k4nna.525wasyay maingon Kay bugok man sab na, misha fan man gud
@captjuanco5766
@captjuanco5766 10 ай бұрын
toxic and smelly
@tyrannical3579
@tyrannical3579 9 ай бұрын
@@Yssa60 ka bugok ba nimo oi pag puyo kaon pakag tae lipay pa mi
@Afterimages1
@Afterimages1 10 ай бұрын
There was no teamwork or true care for one another like the original OG.
@kuyataps8991
@kuyataps8991 Жыл бұрын
Ammar is like Kuroky so much pride.
@AllMindenjoyer
@AllMindenjoyer Жыл бұрын
Did you win TI? did you win even a single tournament?
@alphonsecatan2
@alphonsecatan2 Жыл бұрын
The only reason why Ammar is arguing that using signature hero is the way to win is because his signature heroes is basically all his hero pool
@onyxblack1167
@onyxblack1167 Жыл бұрын
And his hero was strong at that time.
@alphonsecatan2
@alphonsecatan2 Жыл бұрын
@@onyxblack1167 You can say that because that's his signature hero but dota buff win percentage for mars and timber was abyssmal. I can't remember the exact numbers but it's right around 47% winrate on pubs for both heroes. remember, no one was using timber or mars during that major with a few exeptions for mars who sometimes show up on other teams.
@ryanzellerphilip2082
@ryanzellerphilip2082 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes the words imba it's been a while i heard this one
@u12blue
@u12blue Жыл бұрын
To be fair, Ammar was their star player on the team
@PrefoX
@PrefoX Жыл бұрын
to be fair everybody thought hes the star, but we can see that hes not that great... he may be right, maybe not. But how he talked with misha and the team is just so bad... hes a bad person
@rexarat6003
@rexarat6003 Жыл бұрын
@@PrefoX not a fan of Ammar, however he is not a person but I do think he's a bad teammate
@u12blue
@u12blue Жыл бұрын
@PrefoX he IS the star during the rebuild OG. Dont confuse attitude with skill.
@yipkeong3954
@yipkeong3954 Жыл бұрын
He need player like yuragi to make him shine,we call it sacrificial carry. The reason nigma is still doing like shit is because they cant do it like what yuragi did. They tried with slark offlNe and pango carry but it just not working.if atf want shine again,he need crystalis
@meatshake4103
@meatshake4103 Жыл бұрын
Pfft lol he doesn't even play real pos 3 heroes or even micro intensive heroes plus his hero pool is so little.
@lei8355
@lei8355 Жыл бұрын
Ammar just cant follow rules, he felt he should lead the team.
@MyLittleDahie
@MyLittleDahie Жыл бұрын
Mindgames are sooooo strong
@kidasohbgahb2193
@kidasohbgahb2193 Жыл бұрын
ammar is true but it depends on mentally and on player
@kuneda777
@kuneda777 Жыл бұрын
listen what uncle said kid.. ammar said.
@johnvillarta5970
@johnvillarta5970 8 ай бұрын
Only old OG can win tournaments using their signature heroes even if it is not imba
@judahpratt7651
@judahpratt7651 Жыл бұрын
Timber and razor were imba at the time, so I agree with Nisha, however ammar brings up wind ranger which is a good point, but doesn’t win him the argument.
@abdullah0277
@abdullah0277 Жыл бұрын
Nisha? Lol
@onyxblack1167
@onyxblack1167 Жыл бұрын
Yeah... He was non existent in TI after the patch.
@riduma
@riduma Жыл бұрын
Ammar was being sarcastic.
@midtwogaming5521
@midtwogaming5521 Жыл бұрын
nisha u head ..
@DY-nh9ip
@DY-nh9ip 10 ай бұрын
Amma was truly the fucker in that moment 😂😂😂
@ermariebalbontin2302
@ermariebalbontin2302 Жыл бұрын
wind pos 5 is only imba because of ceb
@tsaqifridwan6724
@tsaqifridwan6724 Жыл бұрын
So that why Ammar rarely plays another Heroes huh
@ad982347
@ad982347 10 ай бұрын
and they with the next game with windrunner
@denniod
@denniod 7 ай бұрын
Ofc signature heroes will win. Collapse magnus, dendi pudge vs tongfu, and puppey chen vs tongfu too
@keenser6941
@keenser6941 Жыл бұрын
Ammar is emotionally unstable. Look at him without Ceb and Misha's guidance, pos 1 using pos 3 heroes. I feel bad for Sumail and Miracle they need to join a new team
@blitzfifa2260
@blitzfifa2260 Жыл бұрын
Delusional comment. Imagine calling someone emotionally unstable over wanting to win.
@drsoper
@drsoper Жыл бұрын
Yeah he’s not emotionally unstable he is emotional I’m sure you’ve had one before
@lalfakzualahnamte2021
@lalfakzualahnamte2021 Жыл бұрын
As if Sumail has done anything significant since leaving EG. Barely qualified to TI 10 with OG, didn't qualify for a single major with Secret last DPC season and couldn't qualify to TI with Miracle and Co in Nigma
@veritaz753
@veritaz753 Жыл бұрын
​@@lalfakzualahnamte2021 still, already won ti. Dont give a fck
@emrhasn8071
@emrhasn8071 Жыл бұрын
Ammar is good if he got Timber or Husker other than that he is bad
@nebunezz_r
@nebunezz_r Жыл бұрын
Ammar is speaking like a true Slacks watcher, he hates WR with such passion he's MENA Slacks.
@NotMonofon
@NotMonofon Жыл бұрын
Where can i watch full version
@jwinterspring
@jwinterspring Жыл бұрын
Redbull Gaming YT page, my friend.
@Vaeuca
@Vaeuca Жыл бұрын
Redbul esports channel released a new video about ceb. Its in KZbin
@trawnp1656
@trawnp1656 Жыл бұрын
You have your answer mate
@Klimbo93
@Klimbo93 Жыл бұрын
Its remarkable how powerful the difference is at 5th teammate Nisha than 5th teammate Ceb. If Nisha was there instead of Ceb, Ammar and him would have kept arguing and vertainly lose third game. The presence of mind and leadership Ceb brings in literally a champion maker talent. Greatest respect from me. Note I am not saying Nisha isnt and amazingly talented player, he destroyed so many teams and will just get better yet.
@lokanantazain
@lokanantazain Жыл бұрын
Yea but Nisha isnt playing pos 5
@Klimbo93
@Klimbo93 Жыл бұрын
@@lokanantazain its neither relevant nor I said pos 5, how did you manage to miss my point lol
@arcar5087
@arcar5087 Жыл бұрын
@@Klimbo93 he meant nisha is from liquid, u r talking bout misha lol
@4536647674
@4536647674 Жыл бұрын
​@@Klimbo93how did you manage to miss YOUR own point lol
@kellenmoon3084
@kellenmoon3084 Жыл бұрын
well, u also half right, Ceb was there but Nisha wasnt. Misha was.
@hdjdjncjfndj6010
@hdjdjncjfndj6010 6 ай бұрын
My signature hero is pa.. but tat doesn't mean i can own every game woth pa..
@user-yy2bc7rh3b
@user-yy2bc7rh3b Жыл бұрын
wr 5 is not imba lol this performance won this major and he still says this
@danielmoriarty1101
@danielmoriarty1101 Жыл бұрын
No one picked or ban windran. I was just pure ceb who made it IMBA. Kid got a point bud.
@JT-bs2lm
@JT-bs2lm Жыл бұрын
You didn't understand what he meant. Misha was stating they should pick meta heroes but Ammar rebutted that they are winning with comfort heroes including WR which is right.
@aibrahim6071
@aibrahim6071 Жыл бұрын
He's implying that Ceb made windrunner IMBA
@daudfnu3253
@daudfnu3253 Жыл бұрын
im a fans of OG since Miracle was playing for OG until this fcking Misha , im just so happy ATF is success at other team . ATF team hope goin to Ti and win it
@danhnguyen3272
@danhnguyen3272 6 ай бұрын
Why i see kuroky in armar?
@marclauritzensoriano9086
@marclauritzensoriano9086 4 ай бұрын
what does "enigma 8" mean? also in 2019 True sight they say "ember 15"
@jankolec7053
@jankolec7053 Ай бұрын
picked in 8th stage of captains mode (2nd pick i guess)
@stevenhansen3628
@stevenhansen3628 11 ай бұрын
I started to respect this kid, hes right. U dont need wide hero pool to play dota. You only to master like 5-10 hero and you will be good
@egoist_29
@egoist_29 Жыл бұрын
WR pos 5 isnt imba, but CEB is...
@vincentrio8204
@vincentrio8204 7 ай бұрын
Misha is the worst member OG had
@jamalismcast
@jamalismcast 9 ай бұрын
remember TI3
@EarthSpirit.easyzdota
@EarthSpirit.easyzdota 11 ай бұрын
Both had their points
@lunaeclipse5768
@lunaeclipse5768 Жыл бұрын
Look what he did!
@itsdkdm2083
@itsdkdm2083 Жыл бұрын
After that og isn't the same again😢😢😢
@YobiWorld
@YobiWorld Жыл бұрын
didnt they win that major?
@kentkirbynerves96
@kentkirbynerves96 Жыл бұрын
meta heroes are there to change the pace of the game , a little success of those heroes can change the whole game. Imagine pro players using meta heroes that should be considered broken , Signature heroes are usually a risky pick since theyre pros , enemies will most likely have counter heroes or plays against those signature heroes , Big example was Topson's gyro diffu. Meta heroes are better cuz it wont pressure your teammates much of you getting countered or whatsoever. Ammar been trying to do shot calls on times that Ceb was talking or relaying shot calls as well 😶 It made the game looked like 4v5 since ammar was playing different plays from the other 4 teammates :( He's good that he was able to adjust on the spot but theres always a delay since he's planning by himself and following it also by himself
@jonathanalexander7692
@jonathanalexander7692 Жыл бұрын
The other is still a player and the other sent back to coaching. Pro player isnt for everyone
@lawrencelys1955
@lawrencelys1955 Жыл бұрын
You will never win TI if the teammate carry toxic habits against teammate. No f way! History repeat by itself.. ATF believe put meta hero into line up has more chance of winning. This is short cut with half luck. OLD G believe the combination of both world.. the most important go with your feels.. the gut feel that glide the opponent
@ayoubbaydoun252
@ayoubbaydoun252 8 ай бұрын
I bet Misha had a huge role for kicking him, worst move ever, they should bring him back and take misha out.
@inspectorIntro
@inspectorIntro Жыл бұрын
You can pick any hero when u know the capability of the hero 100%... Here ammar is right 80%
@randomjibberish4357
@randomjibberish4357 Жыл бұрын
does CEB remember what he said about russians?
@cryptz0r330
@cryptz0r330 Жыл бұрын
The guy that knows how to play only 3 heroes gtfo here
@bibumbibest3680
@bibumbibest3680 Жыл бұрын
LGD losing TI with Tiny+Lycan imba meta xD
@virda1034
@virda1034 Жыл бұрын
just bring old OG
@tybanosaurus
@tybanosaurus 9 ай бұрын
as much as i hate ammar's personality, he makes a great point. playing their signature heroes is what won OG the grand finals in ti8 after all
@zorenmataro7456
@zorenmataro7456 Жыл бұрын
The truth is OG will never be the same without Ammar. He won two major without Misha. And ATF is the best Player in that roster.
@icce4409
@icce4409 Жыл бұрын
see NGX forms 🥹
@aysargha
@aysargha Жыл бұрын
He only won 1 major in a meta that was perfect for the heroes he plays.
@nikosensei1258
@nikosensei1258 Жыл бұрын
​@@aysargha maybe but nobodys play his hero better than him,and its his first year
@odar5248
@odar5248 Жыл бұрын
2nd one isnt a major
@bags4806
@bags4806 Жыл бұрын
Ok what happened in nigma then?
@fathurrizqi3626
@fathurrizqi3626 Жыл бұрын
people keep balming ammar mc gh an so on even miracle about nigma bad play but the promblem is kuro. the main reason the changing roster from w33 til roster now never succeed is kuro. i would stan nigma again if kuro were retired as pos 5 in that team. it's tired to wait more than 3 years🤤
@RevoZtuns
@RevoZtuns Жыл бұрын
Misha just wasn’t that great. And ammar too cocky for his own good. Nothing will ever compare to the original sunflower boys. Humble yet supremely confident.
@CianoPH
@CianoPH Жыл бұрын
Theyre 17 yr old the fuck? Hahaha
@ILoveRamen444
@ILoveRamen444 Жыл бұрын
We'll see them in div 2 soon
@truthenjoyer4423
@truthenjoyer4423 Жыл бұрын
ceb was known as super toxic back in the day.
@Harz02
@Harz02 Жыл бұрын
@@truthenjoyer4423 not against his own teammates though
@fendz00
@fendz00 7 ай бұрын
new og can only play same heroes
@Jeed92
@Jeed92 11 ай бұрын
now i know why ammar was "kicked". But I would say he did nothing wrong, even from a teamperspective, because Misha wasnt making a good point at all and even attacked ammar with it who just defended with speaking truth. Bad from both actually.
@zerohuntr
@zerohuntr 9 ай бұрын
The taxi driver has spoken
@ecosti
@ecosti 9 ай бұрын
I dont think this is a conflict , its a discussion , its a competitive game , u think footballers go and spesk polite to each other in half time ? No , but they know its a competitive spirit and sport so its very acceptable , if u get offended by something so small as this then ur not allowed to be called a professional
@Rockycm1
@Rockycm1 Жыл бұрын
not picking IMBA then lose like NIGMA.
@rein5114
@rein5114 9 ай бұрын
U know u gonna get mad When people stating the truth 🗿
@warren1676
@warren1676 6 ай бұрын
Heroes are not imba, a good player make it imba. Heroes are not meant to be Meta, Good players make it a Meta.
@chloetzpiano6548
@chloetzpiano6548 11 ай бұрын
When you lose even in the internet,sorry misha,you are not valid anymore with that argument,and im not even ammar fan
@fifofuko1864
@fifofuko1864 Жыл бұрын
ammar won them the tournament
@blackmamba1541
@blackmamba1541 Жыл бұрын
cause ceb og win this major. not ammar.. ammar is uselesss..
@ahmoh9064
@ahmoh9064 Жыл бұрын
​@@blackmamba1541 look at og now lol
@keenser6941
@keenser6941 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmoh9064 look at ammar now XDD
@djagadkurniansyah2134
@djagadkurniansyah2134 Жыл бұрын
Ceb literally carried the team big time in this Major, you sure you understand the game?
@evansvillerojas652
@evansvillerojas652 Жыл бұрын
Disagree, ceb really took that by the throat. It's hard when your teammate is acting like a lunatic. Ceb even mentioned you have to know and be careful on what to say to ppl like ammar who blow up. Maybe it's just the way Ammar is, but he seemed salty, even after they won each game and then the major. It was awkward to watch, as he stayed in his own silo, no excitement or whatnot after victories. Ceb def rallied them to victory in each game. The rest of the team did well following his guidance.
@sandresc2649
@sandresc2649 Жыл бұрын
Why do I feel ammar is the 2nd Kuroky? I mean is that like kind of "Just do as I said coz IDGAF about the rest"
@crystalesian
@crystalesian Жыл бұрын
Misha's the one sounds like Kuroky since he's starting to restrict other players to not pick their comfort heroes
@JT-bs2lm
@JT-bs2lm Жыл бұрын
Ammar is young and is a core. Not comparable with Kuro and Misha's bossiness as captains.
@SlowDownImWhite
@SlowDownImWhite Жыл бұрын
Ammar wants to win which is why he has that attitude because he thinks that is their best way to win (taking sig heroes); but you should still listen to your coach&captain when you are the brand new pos 3 at your first major in your first div1 team. Kuro is NGXs captain so he should be directing the team, ammar isn't so he shouldn't have the final say.
@kecohmedia839
@kecohmedia839 Жыл бұрын
@@SlowDownImWhite saw your comments almost in every sections. you hate him or what?
@SlowDownImWhite
@SlowDownImWhite Жыл бұрын
​@@kecohmedia839 I've commented twice and i liked ammar in OG; if you actually read what i put then you might recognise this. 🙂
@chthollynotakawaii
@chthollynotakawaii Жыл бұрын
i mean ammar was right but he has no valid reason to say that considering his low hero pool.. i mean how can you go with comfort picks if you can only play limited heroes and keeps getting banned lol
@fgghddsffdrtybc
@fgghddsffdrtybc Жыл бұрын
how to watch full video
@kuo2848
@kuo2848 Жыл бұрын
Go search " Ceb comeback". It's about an hour documentary uploaded by Redbull gaming.
@fgghddsffdrtybc
@fgghddsffdrtybc Жыл бұрын
@@kuo2848 danke shot
@mojako5321
@mojako5321 10 ай бұрын
Ammar need to change his attitude and listen.
@jordyeusebioquispecupe8990
@jordyeusebioquispecupe8990 10 ай бұрын
Yuragi so bad 😂😂😂😂
@PhuongLe-kv1hy
@PhuongLe-kv1hy Жыл бұрын
This ammar and misha do nothing for OG. They won that major thanks to Cen and Yugari not stroke
@ard1587
@ard1587 Жыл бұрын
Spicy stuff 😱
@Potatocat_
@Potatocat_ 11 ай бұрын
He is right, picking stupid heroes is a joke
@adrianortiz3392
@adrianortiz3392 Жыл бұрын
At this point, Ammar is becoming a liability he is not versatile and cannot catch up with the meta. but If I'm the one who is picking I will also let him pick his signature hero and just trust the process.
@Standardgrinching
@Standardgrinching Жыл бұрын
Amar was 100 right here.
@JamesDOlson1
@JamesDOlson1 Жыл бұрын
He was good when his heroes were strong but he's been a disaster since the change in meta. He's single handedly driving Nigma back to tier 2.
@sebastiedjuan7468
@sebastiedjuan7468 Жыл бұрын
nigma is scum to pick him an offlaner toplay pos 1
@herrykang1782
@herrykang1782 Ай бұрын
misha is wrong, ammar is right, the results speak for themself
@subhodipmahanty4605
@subhodipmahanty4605 Жыл бұрын
Bruh ceb spammed that heroo and made it look broken ...don't blame on some hero ...when a legend playin it and owning you the game all around its a good thing you are on that team ...when you don't give 100% to your game that 1% costs you the whole game ....never doubt a legend
@williamcueto4465
@williamcueto4465 Жыл бұрын
Ammar basado😊
@N3w1M
@N3w1M Жыл бұрын
I don't like Ammar, bur he is right.
@merenlemtor2503
@merenlemtor2503 Жыл бұрын
Ammar got talent,but his arrogance might stop him from achieving his goals. Have to respect his teammates or else he'll have no team to play with.
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